Tagged With "802"

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How to wire up 4x 802II and 2x 502BP

André ·
Dear Friends, Our sportsclub received a set of Bose hardware (and a bunch of different cables) but nobody is sure how to set up this set: 1x 802-C II Systems Controller 1x 1800 Series V Professional Amplifier 1x 1800 / IV Professional Power Station 4x 802 Series II 2x 502 BP We understand how to connect our Mixer to the Systems Controller. But then, we think to connect Syst.Contr. to 1800 Series V --> 1800 Series V to 2x 502 (with XLR? or Jacks?) 1800 Series V to 1800/IV (with XLR? or...
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Oldschool 802

Midtown ·
I am reviving a pair of 802 II's and would like to use a pair of non-bose subwoofers. In order to setup a crossover for the subs I need to know some technical specs. I'd like to start the subs at around 60Hz and then crossover into the 802's. When the 802C controller is put into biamp mode, what is the frequency this mode is operating? What frequency should I use to crossover into the 802's? Also, what is the highest frequency attained by the 802's. Is it 16kHz? Any information or experience...
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How do i wire up my 802s2 system and what wiring do i need?

LUMO ·
HI all, As the subject says, i'm hoping i someone can help me with how to wire up and what wires i may need to make all this work. I have seen this setup around for years and love the sound it produces but have no idea how to make it all work.. I have 2x Bose 802 series ii speakers, Bose 802c series ii controller and a Bose 1800w series VI amplifier (picture attached). I don't have any wires nor know which wire goes where.. I have attached a picture of the back of the system i have to make...
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802 system controller with powered mixer (SoundLab)

tngame ·
I'm a PA novice and have been given an old pair of 802 speakers with 802-c system controller, and an old powered mixer to use with them. The loudspeakers work well but I'm aware that I should use the 802-c to equalize the sound. My problem is that I'm not sure how to connect the 802-c with the powered mixer, since I figure it would usually be used with a separate mixer and amp. The powered mixer is a 12-channel SoundLab PMX-1252D. There's no manual and it's so old I can't find one online...
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Re: 802 system controller with powered mixer (SoundLab)

Chet ·
The controller must be inserted between the preamplifier and the power amp. In older mixers there may be a "Preamp Out" and Aux Input. You would take the signal from the "Preamp Out" (or maybe "Mix Out") to the controller and then return from the controller to the power section of the mixer. You will probably only use ONE channel on the Bose Controller. You can also find the user guide for the controller on-line...there may be other settings on it you nee If you shot a better, tighter...
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Re: 802 system controller with powered mixer (SoundLab)

Chet ·
PS: It IS critical that you get the controller between the preamplification/mixing section and the final power amplifier as the speakers really don't sound that great without the controller.
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Re: 802 system controller with powered mixer (SoundLab)

Pr Globuloff ·
Dear tngame, You won't be able to use this powered-mixer with the 802's ! This mixer has no line outs Right & Left except those which are amplified (either balanced or unbalanced). And the controller needs to be insert "between" the mixer and the amplifier. So you need to get a mixer without outputs amplified !
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Re: 802 system controller with powered mixer (SoundLab)

tngame ·
Thanks for the replies. @Chet here is a better photo of the top right area.
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Re: 802 system controller with powered mixer (SoundLab)

Chet ·
This may work -- First we need to test to see if your Effects Send is POST FADER. Plug a signal into one channel, set the Effects Send knob for that channel somewhat midpoint, take the EFX output to a guitar amp or some-such. Then when you change that channel's fader, does the output of the Effects Send change? If so, you're in business. Set the Effects Send for every channel you use to a similar spot, take the EFX Output to the input of the controller, return the output of the controller to...
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Re: How to wire up 4x 802II and 2x 502BP

ChrisJ-at-Bose ·
Hi Andre, You have the right idea. The 802 controller has 4 outputs, so you can send audio from your source (mixer) through the controller, then the controller applies EQ/signal processing to the signal, and sends it to to the amps. The connectors can be either XLR or 1/4" on the speaker end. Use the low frequency outputs for the 502 BPs. (on one amp), and the high frequency outputs to the 802 IIs (on the other amp) As for the 802 II x 4 - You'd want to run them in parallel, so two groups of...
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Re: How to wire up 4x 802II and 2x 502BP

André ·
Hi ChrisJ, Thank you, that should help me out with this! I added a simple drawing, please check if I took your instructions in the right way. Does it make a difference which amp to connect to which type of speakers? Best Regards, Andre
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Re: How to wire up 4x 802II and 2x 502BP

ChrisJ-at-Bose ·
Hi Andre, Yes, this is the right idea. You can try this either way, as the specifications are very similar. The end result should not differ greatly. If the series V has an EQ card, you'll want to remove it. If you're not sure if it does, you can remove the input panel, and the card would be behind it (if it's installed). Best regards, ChrisJ-at-Bose
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Re: How do i wire up my 802s2 system and what wiring do i need?

Chet ·
Mixer left into controller channel one -- mixer right into controller channel 2 -- XLR or TRS from mixer to XLR inputs on controller. XLR to XLR from each controller channel into power amp inputs... Now the tricky bit. I used to have two twin-Male-Banana Plug to 1/4" Female TS adapters... Ah, there we go, found 'em! (If link doesn't work type in description below**) https://www.amazon.com/GLS-Aud...rds=male+banana+plug then speaker cable with 1/4" TS plugs on each end to connect from the...
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Re: How do i wire up my 802s2 system and what wiring do i need?

LUMO ·
HI Chet and thank you for your response its much appreciated.. I have drawn up a simple diagram just so i make sure I am understanding correctly. Can you please have a look at the picture i have attached and let me know if i understood correctly? Thank in advance
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Re: How do i wire up my 802s2 system and what wiring do i need?

Chet ·
You've got it!
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Re: How do i wire up my 802s2 system and what wiring do i need?

LUMO ·
Thank you so much for your help.. Now just have to get the cables, that mixer and time to test..
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Re: How do i wire up my 802s2 system and what wiring do i need?

ThomasS-at-Bose ·
Just for completeness. Maybe this is helpful. Best rgds, Thomas
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Re: How do i wire up my 802s2 system and what wiring do i need?

LUMO ·
Thank you Thomas
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Re: Oldschool 802

NickA-at-Bose ·
Hi Johnny, On the 802C crossover frequency in biamped mode is 180 Hz. That particular controller was designed to be used with the 802 II and 302 pair, so that particular crossover point may not work for you. For use with a third-party subwoofer, you'll likely want to leave the 802C as full range for the 802 IIs, and then run the subwoofer independently from the controller. The frequency range (-10 dB points) of an 802 II are 55 Hz and 16 kHz. So the 802 II will reach 16 kHz, but the response...
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