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An unexpected challenge.

I had a dj gig on Saturday. I was expecting to play a small banquet room inside a theater complex. When I got to the gig it turned out I was playing in the five hundred seat theater. At least forty foot tall ceilings, a balcony directly across from me and more than three hundred guests at the wedding. I was placed on the theater stage, about five feet off the mail floor looking down at the buffet table. While people were filing past, getting food, I could see the look of concern on some...Read More...
Just so you know Clark. the SoundScan computers that I checked were in record stores. I actually was going to buy the song instead of download it. For some reason, I just don't trust Kaza and all the spyware.Read More...

PS1 Configuration

My band is in the middle of purchasing 6 PASs (We've got 2 so far). We've also added an additional PS1 and 6 B1s to our wish list for when we play outdoors. Has there been any consideration given to supplying a smaller PS1 for this application? If I was going to use a L1-less PS1 to drive a big raft of B1s, I'd rather not have to find the floorspace for the original configuration. I wonder if it would be feasible to have an alternative PS1 confuguration for this application. Curious BillRead More...
Hi Bill. You could use an appropriate rack-mount-style power amplifier to drive a bunch of B1s from the Bass-Line OUT jack on the host PS1.Read More...

Perfrormance Keyboard Application

Forum: Keyboards
I perform in small and medium size clubs using a single keyboard, Yamaha Tyros, with vocals. With bass, drums and a complete band from the keyboard output, What can I expect in small venues that differs from my current set up, a Roland KC 500. Do I need to consider two bass units considering this insturmentation? Also I am getting input from other performers that the keyboard sound is significantly better using a stereo output and amplififcation. I was ready to buy two powered speakers when...Read More...
Most of the stereo outputs on keyboards allow the Left only as a mono out. That's what I'm doing on my Roland XP-60 which works greatRead More...

those simulations in the read-only forum

Say a lot. One other thing I found most amazing about the PAS is I had one situation where I had to place it... in the middle of the room. You take what you get and I was: yeah, like, ok, this is going to work... NOT. But it did, better than I'd have bet. I was astonished at break running an iPod through that... the decay on the back of the speaker was not large at all. Behind the BACK of the speaker! LOLRead More...
I'm glad that worked for you. Generally, you will get significantly high-end roll off towards the rear and although the overall sound pressure level will not drop dramatically, the spectral balance can be off. However, you are lucky and the room provides enough high-frequency reflections you can get pretty decent results behind the speaker as well. Still, when I have to do testing at high volumes, my preferred spot is being behind the L1 HilmarRead More...

fall-off L1 vs. B1?

Just wondering.. if the L1's falloff is significantly less with distance than what a regular speaker produces .. wouldn't the B1 be prone to that "regular" fall-off as it seems to be a much more conventional design? So if that's the case, does that mean the low end (if set to sound full and good on stage) won't actually carry further then let's say the first couple of rows in the audience? An answer would be highly appreciated. Chris from Germany (waiting for the PAS to show up in Europe so...Read More...
We are not going to be at the Musikmesse in Frankfurt and we haven't nailed down any details for a European release. Sorry to keep you waiting. We'll keep you posted on our progress. HilmarRead More...

suggestions for our 4 piece

I just discovered the Bose PAS system last week and i"m already sold on it! From what I can see it is just what I've been seeking for years!- clarity of sound, end of muddiness, more volume is not the answer, more individual control of sound and simplicity. So if I'm going to spend the $$$ please help me decide just what we would need. Here is a rundown of the band: - Variety rock & roll 50's to present playing mostly small to medium rooms/halls 1- drummer / backing vocals shure sm10A...Read More...
I'll be moving this thread into the setup/troubleshooting area in a few days.Read More...

Guitar Center in West Palm Beach, FL

By the way, BArry Gruber, head of Pro Audio at The Guitar Center knows your product inside and out and was a great help in making sure I knew everything about the system before I bought it. Even hooked up a Roland Handsonic unit for me to try out the system. It was a welcome change. Usually you know more than the sales people. He was great! RicoRead More...
That's great to hear. Thanks for letting folks on the forum know.Read More...

Celtic Duo

Forum: Ensembles
rod 2
Greetings from San Antonio! First of all, thanks to Bose and all the participants for such a GREAT forum. The topics and real-world experience are very helpful. I'm ready to order and just want to get your thoughts to see if I'm on the right track. We are an acoustic duo, primarily celtic, called Campbell & Wilson, www.CelticTexas.com . The PAS seems like the ideal solution for noisy pub gigs where a not-uncommon comment is "I liked it but I couldn't understand the words". Typically we...Read More...
I play in a Celtic band out of the Washington, DC area called IONA, and we'll have a couple of gigs coming up where we'll be able to use our PAS. We also have some gigs coming up where politics won't let us use them, even though I think it would be perfect. I want to get some more experimentation time in with the small pipes before feeling completely confident in the sound. We are having some feedback problems - nothing insurmountable, I believe, but annoying - that I haope to have resolved...Read More...

Audio Technica AT-4033

Forum: Ensembles
What a great possibility. Just what I'm looking for in ease of set up. I'm forming a bluegrass ensemble with 4 piece at the moment, 5 in the future. I've been collecting equipment in the "traditional" train of thought and I really like the concept of using 2 AT-4033 to capture the aucoustic properties like Del McCoury uses. Can you use this type of mic in this context? How many systems would you need, I certainly can't justify 4/5 for each band member. One for each AT-4033? Thanks, GeorgeRead More...
Well, I set up my L1 last night with my Banjo player and was quite impressed. He was stunned! We worked in the backyard (about an acre) and he wandered around stunned at the sound and the even disbursion. I've been an audiophile for years and this is the best I've heard in any outdoor system. FWIW - I used a single AT 4033 and we mixed ourselves by varying positions at the front. I'm still playing with presets but in general, it is worth every dollar. Finally, this forum was a key feature in...Read More...

NYC Pas users unite! - or at least let's meet

Hi all, I'm not vying for some sort of exclussive click. But I would love to network with Pas using musicians in the NYC area where I play. While I often perform solo acoustic venues. It would be good to know who's out there locally and uses this system. For any who feel similarly, my name's Greg Parr. I play a coulple of clubs in NYC with the usual dble or triple systems. And use the PAS for private parties and no PA situations. I have a regular gig on Sundays, 10PM - 12:30 @ Session 73,...Read More...
Sounds like a great idea. In larger gigs I use the the clubs PA but in smaller private gigs I use the PAS. Besides the comfort level I feel when performing with it, it is also so easy to deal with in transportation. I have two gigs coming up in March in Brooklyn where I am using the system. if anyone is interested email me at MindThirst at aol dot com... I'll send yu the info. Ciao Lammie [Steve edited the email address to prevent scraping software from finding Lammie's email address and...Read More...

DI Boxes

Last night was our first gig with the Bose PAS. I've been experimenting with my sound and tone through the PAS. Last night I found my solution. I used my guitar rack Peavey Rockmaster > TCElec. G-Major > VHT 2902 > Behringer Ultra G > Peavey 5150 4X12. I'm done experimenting. I got my tone by running the VHT out of 1 channel in half power mode. This all ran into Behringer Ultra G w/4X12 cab sim ON. The Ultra G runs into the BOSE via mic cable and powered. I turned up the VHT...Read More...
Good news. It sounds like the Behringer does the same thing as the Hughes and Kettner Red Box, at a much cheaper price. I look forward to checking it out.Read More...

Advise on what to buy and hos to set up.

You got my interest. I am currently using an Allen & Heath Mix Wizard with 2 pwered Barbetta speakers. I am a solo act using CD tracks and playing Roland TD 10, Roland Hand Sonic and SPD pad and singing with the lead lines and vocals through a TC Hellicon Voice Prism. I also use a wireless midi controller to play the above(Zendrum). Everything is in stereo. 5 stereo channels all together. 3 instruments, 1 for the track and 1 for the headset vocal w/effects. I have a hand held SM58 for...Read More...
Rico, All Guitar Center stores should have systems, but give them a call to make sure they have them in stock. As for the headset mic, there is presently no preset for that specifically, but you can certainly use the 3-band EQ on the Bose system to add more low end. There may also be a preset for something else that will work with that mic.Read More...

Hot-spiced-wine-a-ville!

Ken-at-Bose
We received a nice posting from a band using the system in southern Florida yesterday. Up here in the great white North, things are a little different. This morning, at the crack of dawn, my next door neighbor (shown in picture) and I were out on the pond out back creating a glass-like surface for pond hockey later this morning. Different worlds, ay? For you techies, here's how it works. We use an ax to cut a hole in the ice, then submerge a small pump. A garden hose with sprinkler is used...Read More...

Is there a total output ?

Forum: Vocals
Hi Kyle, We are practicing for a March 26 charity event in Houston and trying to record as we practice so we can improve our performance. I connected the PAS' 2 lineouts to my MiniDisc for recording. But only the vocals from channels 1&2 are recorded, not the sounds from channels 3&4 (piano and strings). Is there a total output that carries ALL channels' sounds ? If not what can I do to get channels 3&4 recorded as well ? NDCRead More...
Alas, no, there is no way to get all four channels electrically. Although I'm sure you thought of this, why not just put a stereo mic out in an advantageous location and record rehearsal that way? It seems like you'd get the best impression of how you sound, and also it would require no mixing of the signals, just push record. The only way to get all the channels electrically is to take a Y at the input to channels 3 and 4 and run these to a mixer before the recorder. A mixer used to split...Read More...

Punch vs. Saturation?

The keyboardist loves the PAS. The drummer and I *really* love them. The singer says "It was better when I had that Mackie monitor" by which he means he could hear himself better when he had access to a (borrowed) powered floor monitor that probably cost half as much as an L1+B1, blaring his own voice directly at him. The guitarist thinks it sounds good, but he is still pretty unconvinced. So the drummer and I are working on all sorts of ways to convince them, and while I'm pretty sure the...Read More...
I think it will be better once we get the 3rd PAS /B1. We already had plans to order. Thanks for the suggestions. I think we'll arrange it differently. Our bass sound wasn't lacking in bass guitar but more kick drums and guitar. The bassist was the only guy running solely using his full stack. I think we'll keep it that way. We'll steal one B1, from the PAS the bassist and lead singer were using for only vocals, and chain it to the drummer's PAS and B1. Stacking them. On my side, I'll turn...Read More...

Recording

Forum: Vocals
I've recently purchased a computer progam (Acid 4.0) designed for recording music. I have recorded vocals and bass onto my laptop through a small Beringer mixer and achieved random success. My question is, "Can I record directly to my laptop through the PAS?" Scales, scales, scales!Read More...
You sure can. The only thing I worry about is that the Line Outputs on the PS1 power stand are Pro Audio level (+4) so they may be too hot for the audio inputs of the laptop. There are ways to knock this down in level, and by way of this post I'd like to ask Kyle to make some recommendations.Read More...

Use with stereo system

I am thinking that I could at least justify part of the cost of this system (which I would only use once in awhile when I am gigging) to use with my stereo system. How does it sound hooking it up with a stereo system, i.e., receiver, cd player, speakers, etc.? Can't I use it to make it sound even better? Does it sound great hooking up to a cd player?Read More...
How far apart where the two PAS's?? Ut oh. Do I need a second PAS just to get the great sound out of my P120 stereo sampled piano. Don't really want to spend the extra $ and kinda like just the one system to lug about.Read More...

My third use of the PAS as a bass amp

My fellow bassists, For my third live use of the PAS as a bass amp, I originally intended to recreate what I had used at TNT. (See my other posts here) The gig turned out to be a jam session night. Knowing there would be other bassists there and that the featured guitarist would be using his PAS, I took the opportunity to test the PAS all on it’s own, no extra bass cabinet, but I did use my SVTPro tube preamp into channel 3. This worked well. I eventually rolled off the bass on the pre all...Read More...
Also, call your local GC again, if you don't mind. We have been furiously replenishing them (we just took about a dozen container loads into our distribution center. It will be a matter of days if they're not already restocked. Thanks very much for your interest. If you want help from us, and our colleagues here on the forum, well, you know where to find us.Read More...

VIP SHOW WITH THE LINEMEN JUST ANNOUNCED!!!

Ken-at-Bose
Howdy folks, We're going to do a special presentation of our research results here at Bose on Monday morning February 23rd. We will be demonstrating the Personalized Amplification System(tm) products with The Linemen (that's right, THE Linemen). This is an incredible opportunity to see and hear about this new technology. We are only announcing this to our colleagues here on the forum, and to your friends. If you would like to attend, you MUST RSVP to me using Private Topics. Hope you can come!Read More...
As I posted earlier in another thread ... LarryRead More...

The Forums "sold" the system to me...

troberts
Just wanted to pass on that reading the forum posts, with good info from all the Bose personnel, made the difference in my decision to buy a system. Thanks for setting these forums up and devoting the time to maintain them! Be sure to tell the VP of sales that these forums are the greatest marketing tool ever for a good product!Read More...
I agree. I'm mixing a folk duo CD and after listening to the mix in the studio monitors (Mackie) my first thought was - what about through the PAS? And of course I have to tell anyone that will listen to me how good it sounds! And so it goes!Read More...

where does bose ship from ?

Taxes ... I live in NY , trying to decideif to buy from bose.com or local gc ... DavidRead More...
It turns out the IRS doesn't care too much where you ship from, but where you "do business". Since Bose has stores in NY, we must charge sales tax in NY. In fact, we have stores in most states so unless you live in a sales tax free state, I'm confidente Uncle Sam is going to take his share.Read More...

3rd Live Gig and growing

There are many inherent problems with the venue we played at last night. We are a five piece acoustic group, 2 guitars, bass, congas and 2 vocals playing in coffe houses. The acoustics in this coffee house, Spot in Rochester NY, are horrendous. It was an old car dealer showroom with high ceilings (probaby thirty five feet) large open area on the floor we play with an overhanging balcony around the second floor. We have played here numerous times with a high quality Makie and JBL system. It...Read More...
Hi Ken: There were quite a few comments that centered on the clarity of sound. But the best measure that I had was that people stayed all throughout a two hour gig and the people who had never seen us before and came in late seemed sincerely disappointed that we were done by 10:00PM. I also used the system last night for a high school dance in my DJ gig. It was done in a cafeteria and the kids as well as the teachers were very happy with the sound. Never a complaint about not being loud...Read More...

shoulder straps

I was looking for the earlier post about a carry bag for the base unit to add this note: it would be nice if future bags for the PAS itself had shoulder straps on all three items (as well as the hand straps). Would give me more degrees of freedom in how I have to move the things around.Read More...
another approach is to have real solid metal hooks built into both ends of the bags -- use it for a shoulder strap, hanging it off the ground, tying the bag to something, you name itRead More...

Musikmesse in Frankfurt.

Is there a chance to see the new system in Frankfurt / Germany at the Musikmesse? As far as I know it is the biggest exhibition in Europe and there will be MANY musicians around that may like to test it... I could not find BOSE on the exhibitors list. Are there any other shows scheduled for Germany in the near future? Thanks, Roland.Read More...
Hello Roland, Thanks for writing in. No, we won't be there. However, we will be in Amsterdam on March 31st. If there is a chance you could come, write back and I'll tell you more. We'll be showcasing the system with four different musical groups. Keep in touch with this message board for news about Europe as it unfolds.Read More...

Behringer V Amp Pro Hook-Up

My band just purchased three of the L1-B1 setups and we love the system. However, I have a Behringer V Amp Pro rack that I use for FX. What is the best hook up to the Bose system for this modeler/effects rack? I think the Bose works best using a mono FX, but the V Amp Pro is stereo. I can make it work and it sounds great, I just don't like the idea of running two cables to the Bose POD. Any suggestions? Thanks!!Read More...
A couple other options: - DOD 4 to 1 summing mixer stompbox (unbalanced) - Home-made inline summing/mixing adapter using a couple of resistors (essentially a 2 input version of the DOD)Read More...
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