Tony: Regarding entering songs into OnSong -- you may be able to find an on-line PDF to Text conversion tool that will allow you to extract the text from the pdfs and save some typing.  OnSong files are standard PC text files with the .onsong extension.  I find the most time consuming thing putting the chords inline with the lyrics in the right place but that's usually a good thing since most of the songs I've downloaded from the net have many wrong chords in the wrong places anyway.

I got through my eMail issues.  I had to delete my contact page on my website for now until I ad Captcha to it.  No big deal.  Still dealing with being unable to access my "account" at the new company...

4/5 of my band (absent our tempo and taste-challenged, loud conga player) will be doing an on-line concert next Tuesday - 11am our time, 2pm Pacific, 5pm Eastern. I'll post the link here in case y'all like Hawai'ian music and Hawai'ian style Classic Rock...

I've played around with YouTube Live fed by OBS (Open Broadcaster Software) with a Zoom Q4 attached to my laptop.  It worked fine although the 15-20 second lag (satellite internet) made monitoring the final product nearly impossible.

Today I'm going to see if I can use higher quality microphone(s) through my Octacapture interface as an alternate audio source...I plan to use my Touchmix 16 to feed the audio to the Live signal through the Octacapture and I'm looking into an HDMI to USB interface to use one of my high quality video cameras for the video AND audio signal as the best way to do it. 

We will be monitoring with my two S1 Pro systems.  I'll keep you posted.

OBS Studio is here:

https://obsproject.com/

I've been doing a lot of Zoom meetings, including starting a closed, substance recovery face to face meeting held every Wed and my cardiologist and I scheduled a Zoom meeting tomorrow. 

Now If I could figure out a way to get my teeth cleaned via Zoom I wouldn't have to cancel my dentist appointment next week.  :-)

Seagullman posted:

@JFd

Bonjour JFd,

nice to see you posting here again. I think we had a few exchanges here quite a while back now. I've a feeling I commented on the guitar in your picture as it looks like a Godin (would be fitting coming from Canada, and apparently the

Sounds interesting. I've just had a look at the Website. I like the look of the cafe. I'll bet the live evenings are nice affairs

It sometimes does take a while getting used to new things. They sometimes get in the way of what we do automatically. But live is live and sometimes even mistakes can be entertaining (like when you did your "14 songs for 14 days" which I've just had a quick glimpse of, and you were "surprised at what your looper was doing. I found that that was funny in a good way.

As I've just mentioned, I had a quick glimpse at the video. You have quite a mixed repertoire. I'll try to watch it in full. 

I too have a VoiceLive 3. With the looper and separate channels/effects for guitar and vocals I find it extremely versatile.

Take care of yourself too JF

Merci Tony!

Café Mariposa is a special place. Whereas most Open Mics venues are bars or cafés / restaurant that add Open Mics to attract people, the Mariposa is a musical venue that serves beverages and food. Makes a lot of difference when 99% of the people listen.

Not sure why I was surprised on the video; maybe I have pressed the wrong button.

I love the VoiveLive 3. I even use it when busking with the S1. I found a very small 12 V Lithium battery (TalentCell) that easily allows me 2 hours in the metro (8,000 mAh).

Cheers,

JFd

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Oh, Yeah!  Here's what I did for the better part of the last two days:

Isolation Row

Song for the Pandemic Words by Joel Landy Music by Bob Dylan (gosh, I hope that's OK, Bob!)

Guitars, Bass and Vocal: Chet Gardiner Produced, engineered, videoed, directed, edited by Chet Gardiner, March 24th and 25th, 2020.

Tech PS: Recorded each part in front of my green screen in one take.  That's my excuse...

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CityFolk posted:

Hi @Seagullman / Tony,

Thanks for your thoughtful reply and links! James is also one of our favorites as well. He is so down to earth and such a pro. His voice is soothing and he plays such a variety of songs.

I couldn't agree with you more. Really do think he's influenced me as an acoustic guitarist more than anyone else.

I’m definitely going to listen to that BBC concert. You’ve reminded me that I should be watching more music videos.

Yes you should ..  .. I think you'll enjoy the concert. Of course the video quality isn't absolutely state of the art, but that doesn't detract anything from the concert.

It is nice indeed to still be able to play music at least as a duo. Our daughter who plays bass with us lives nearby, but obviously with all this sheltering in place we can’t get together for now. She was rather tall for her age when growing up, She loved basketball so when it came around to middle school, the orchestra teacher assigned her the upright bass as she was the only one who could reach it! 😁

I love upright basses. I'm just happy that I don't have to transport one myself.  Mind you, I wouldn't like to have to transport all my guitars in one go. I counted them out of interest last week. With my new Taylor I've got 18 + one Yamaha Guitalele. I don't play all of them (most yes), but one or two have sentimental value.

Good thing for us as it’s been a real gift to share music as a family our other children love music as well. Our oldest daughter was a voice major in college, but she lives in Virginia now, but we see her often as that’s not that far away.

It's great if you can play and share music within the family. My wife studied music at the University of Music Franz Liszt in Weimar (what used to be East Germany) and teaches music at High School level (what the Germans call Gymnasium. The word has basically nothing to do with where people do physical exercises). She also plays in a Female Saxophone Quartett.

To try to uplift spirits, we played a concert off our front porch the other day  to maintain social distance which was wonderfully gratifying. For the neighbors as well as us since all of our near term performances have been cancelled like everyone else’s.

Over here there have been "call-ups" through social media (WhatsApp etc.) for musicians to open their windows/doors to the outside world and play Beethoven's "Ode to Joy" (at 6pm CET on Sundays) in the Key of D major (so that people can sing to it at the same time if there are more musicians within hearing distance playing. This song is accepted as the European National Anthem, and the idea being to show solidarity to Italy and other countries which have (and still are) been/being hit very hard by this pandemic. We've done this for the last 3 Sundays and then followed on with a few songs of our own choice. The neighbours have appreciated it each time. 

I think the aspect that is starting to weigh on us is the uncertainty we are all facing. If it’s not our health, it’s what will happen to the economies of our respective countries and our financial situation. Two different types of survival! 😳

This is true, and I have hope that this situation will maybe do something to change many people's views on how to treat other people.

All we can do is to continue on as best we can taking things day by day. And of course play music. 

Stay safe and healthy!

Very true and thank you.

Take care yourselves

Tony

Chet posted:

Tony: Regarding entering songs into OnSong -- you may be able to find an on-line PDF to Text conversion tool that will allow you to extract the text from the pdfs and save some typing.  OnSong files are standard PC text files with the .onsong extension.  I find the most time consuming thing putting the chords inline with the lyrics in the right place but that's usually a good thing since most of the songs I've downloaded from the net have many wrong chords in the wrong places anyway.

Thanks for the tip Chet. As I've got loads of time as a retired person, it's not actually a bad idea to type it all in. It helps with learning the lyrics. As I've also noticed the problem with the lyrics it means that starting from scratch also points my focus in that direction.

I got through my eMail issues.  I had to delete my contact page on my website for now until I ad Captcha to it.  No big deal.  Still dealing with being unable to access my "account" at the new company...

Glad to hear that you've got at least some of the problem "sorted"

4/5 of my band (absent our tempo and taste-challenged, loud conga player) will be doing an on-line concert next Tuesday - 11am our time, 2pm Pacific, 5pm Eastern. I'll post the link here in case y'all like Hawai'ian music and Hawai'ian style Classic Rock...

Are you getting together for it, or all separately in your own homes. If the latter, I'll be very interested to hear how you cope with latency.

OBS Studio is here:

https://obsproject.com/

Thanks for the tip. I#ll have a look at that

I've been doing a lot of Zoom meetings, including starting a closed, substance recovery face to face meeting held every Wed and my cardiologist and I scheduled a Zoom meeting tomorrow. 

My wife been using Zoom with colleagues (more than 20 participants I believe). For practising her Sax Quartett are considering trying Mumble.

Now If I could figure out a way to get my teeth cleaned via Zoom I wouldn't have to cancel my dentist appointment next week.  :-)

Nice One ..

JFd posted:

Merci Tony!

Café Mariposa is a special place. Whereas most Open Mics venues are bars or cafés / restaurant that add Open Mics to attract people, the Mariposa is a musical venue that serves beverages and food. Makes a lot of difference when 99% of the people listen.

That is very true, especially if the music you play is not really loud and "thumpy" for want of a better word. It sounds like the kind of place I'd like to visit. A pity that the round trip is such a long one. 

Not sure why I was surprised on the video; maybe I have pressed the wrong button.

I think it was because your looper was still recording while you were speaking and it irritated you.

I love the VoiveLive 3. I even use it when busking with the S1. I found a very small 12 V Lithium battery (TalentCell) that easily allows me 2 hours in the metro (8,000 mAh).

I've looked that up. apparently they do one with a much larger capacity too.

Cheers,

JFd

Take care JFd

Tony

4/5 of my band (absent our tempo and taste-challenged, loud conga player) will be doing an on-line concert next Tuesday - 11am our time, 2pm Pacific, 5pm Eastern. I'll post the link here in case y'all like Hawai'ian music and Hawai'ian style Classic Rock...

"Are you getting together for it, or all separately in your own homes. If the latter, I'll be very interested to hear how you cope with latency."

We are going to hold it on the large porch of one of my bandmates.  We will be at least 6' apart facing 30 degrees left in a line next to the outer railing facing the camera in the opposite corner.

The PA will be QSC Touchmix 16 to 2 Bose S1 Pros (for monitoring).

The streaming will be the mix from Touchmix (with stereo Townsend Sphere mic for backup) to Octacapture (with analog output TRS to XLR to Bose S1 Pros) with USB connection to Laptop running Open Broadcaster Studio to  stream on YouTube Live via DSL connection to internet - crossing fingers that not too many 'neighbors' will be hitting the net...

You can watch using player on main page of our website or better use the link to YouTube and enjoy the chat feature.  We'll be monitoring the chat and interact with audience members -- and THERE is where latency matters...there will be a lag between the time someone types something and we see and and can reply.

http://maukasoul.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5B5dxe2cWQ

We'll be going "live" at 10:45am HST (1:45pm PDT) with the last stages of setup and to make sure that stream is working, etc. with concert beginning at 11am HST.

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I'm planning on doing "Hello in There" as a tribute to one of my favorite songwriters John Prine, a real decent human being I had the pleasure of spending a little time with at the Strawberry Music Festival in the 90s and who is in the hospital in critical condition with Covid.

I also plan on playing and singing Isolation Row with the band.

The Two Meter Band - Brrrr

Two Meters (the required minimum for social distancing), three vocals with guitars, harmonica, and bass.

We just played for three hours outside an assisted living facility. It was a brisk 40 degrees Fahrenheit (5 degrees Celsius).

My S1 Pro kept up with the other AC powered PA for this setting. The bass, acoustic guitar, and two vocalists went through the PA.  

I ran through the S1 Pro

Even though it was chilly and overcast (and it snowed yesterday), we had a ball playing to smiling faces through the windows and people who came out and waved and sang along from the balconies.

Half-way through we moved from one side of the building to the other. It was nice to have the S1 Pro backpack and to carry everything in one trip.

We (the band members) traveled separately, maintained our two-meters or separation throughout the whole process and touched only the things we brought.

It was so nice to feel a part of the community ('cuz doing it online just doesn't cut it).

Cheers,

ST

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Hey, CityFolk.

CityFolk posted:

We are planning to do something similar can’t wait! 

We got a tonne of messages from the residents and their families and friends. While we had a great time, it was good to know that music made a difference for the people inside - they've been locked down for weeks.

I hope it's warmer in your area. It's still going down to freezing at night here. There was hail this morning.  I found my hands slowing down as the chill set in. That wasn't a terrible hardship, but disconcerting as it affected the music.

For anyone who wants to play for people who are locked down,

  • Please be safe
    • Be self-contained and self-sufficient so you don't have to interact directly with others who are part of the show
      • Carry back-ups for show stoppers like cables and batteries
  • Follow the guidelines set out by your local authorities
  • Be considerate of front-line workers who may be resting
  • Be careful not to obstruct access or service areas
  • Stay in touch with the management inside the locked-down facilities to make sure you're doing good

ST

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Agreed ST. First of all, we are working closely with the management of the retirement community about our program to play outside the various buildings so that the residents can stay in place and listen. So we are carefully coordinating with them as we’ve played there for years in a normal quarterly music program indoors. 

We’ve found an ideal setup for this sort of thing using our 2 S1 Pros with wireless mic and guitar access to them allowing us to position them and us in an optimal way for the particular playing situation. We plan on playing around various parts of the facility as it has several separate buildings spread out over several acres. 

Being on battery power and wireless really helps to facilitate doing this sort of thing. If we had more traditional PA systems it would be pretty onerous to setup and then move around. 

I can imagine how well the music went over. Having to be sequestered during these times is so against our human nature to begin with and having live music thrown into the mix really helps people cope somewhat. We all yearn to get back to some sense of normalcy.

What adds to the stress, speaking for myself as I’m in that 60+ at risk bracket, is this darn virus could be the end of me. We’ve already seen musicians succumb to the disease. After all the “stuff” I, and many of you I’m sure, have been through to end like this? Really? I’m also seeing much younger folks who are in their 30s die from the disease before they had a chance to live. So no matter what age you are, level of affluence, etc. no one is immune. 

Stay safe everyone, and continue to bring some level of joy to your fellow human beings wherever you can, be it through music or a teleconference or whatever. We don’t know when it’s our time to leave this veil of tears, but we can do our part to make it a little better while we are here.

I’ll leave you with that famous quote by Maya Angelou that has always stuck with me:

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Chet posted:

I'm planning on doing "Hello in There" as a tribute to one of my favorite songwriters John Prine, a real decent human being I had the pleasure of spending a little time with at the Strawberry Music Festival in the 90s and who is in the hospital in critical condition with Covid.

I also plan on playing and singing Isolation Row with the band.

Thought you might like this: https://youtu.be/XokTQSGNj3Q

 One more - this one's from Joan Baez: https://youtu.be/CJPvc5vvKY4

 

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It's scary but worth remembering that the majority of 'at risk' people will also survive (my wife is 'at risk' so we are staying in and the thought of her catching C19 is frightening). Not wanting to make light of the situation but to cope I need to take things a few days at a time and not swell on what might happen. So I'm playing my guitars, faffing in my 'workshop' and generally trying not to watch the news for a few days. Hopefully things will be improving when I do start watching again.

Stay safe everybody, we'll get through this.

Archtop Eddy posted:

On a lighter note -- if you must go out, dress appropriately.

pandemic fashions

 

no memes please

The one good thing about all the negative things in this world (Corona etc.) is:

They can't take our humour, love, friendship, music or anything else that makes the world a better place. That's one thing I'm really grateful for.

Keep safe,

Tony

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We're seeing a lot of Virtual Open Mics open up around the country. I even had one of my old Navy friends in Ct (a bassist) invite me to FB's The Quarantined Musician so now I'm sharing some of my group's nightly videos with the New Englanders

We initially had the idea to livestream our weekly practices as kind of a "behind the scenes" look but then we got the idea to FB Live a song a night just for something to do. So on April 1st (of all days) we started AcoustiCafe's COVID-19 Song-a-Day Event, and plan to continue it throughout the Quarantine. It certainly lifts our spirits to get together and play some music at least once a day, so we hope it helps others take a little break from the day as well  

And don't worry, we all live together so this is not violating social distancing or stay at home orders (family band). Our daughter on the cajon is "at risk" (Cystic Fibrosis), so although she's in much better health these days on the newest CF drug (thank God for that), we are still very cautious.

Jeff

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Hi, Archtop Eddy.

It's okay do disagree, but this is not the place for memes and jokes you can find in other places on the web.

I have amended the lead post in this thread. What are you doing with your extra time these days to help us stay on track.

ST

ST posted:

Hi Everybody,

Let's share some ideas about self-care and how we can be kind to ourselves and one another in these difficult times.

This is off-topic for our community but we can do this productively if we focus on how we are filling the time left to us because of canceled gigs.

For me, this has given me time to catch up on some writing, finish some songs, get reacquainted with my gear, and get in touch with distant connections. Next, I want to explore ways to collaborate with musicians online and I'm considering virtual shows.

What are you doing?

Sincerely,

ST

PS

Please - This is not the place to talk about why we're not gigging these days.  There are lots of other places to talk about COVID-19. Let's not bring politics, extreme behaviors, or social criticism into this, and leave the memes and joke threads for other sites.

Thank you.

Hi, Jeff K.

Jeff K posted:

We're seeing a lot of Virtual Open Mics open up around the country. I even had one of my old Navy friends in Ct (a bassist) invite me to FB's The Quarantined Musician so now I'm sharing some of my group's nightly videos with the New Englanders

We initially had the idea to livestream our weekly practices as kind of a "behind the scenes" look but then we got the idea to FB Live a song a night just for something to do.

I like the "a song a night" aspect. I've seen several Facebook Live events that went on far too long as they revealed a lack of preparation and focus. Over the minutes, the audience fell away.

Our online audiences members are only a mouse-click, tap, or gesture away from leaving (unlike our physical shows).

So on April 1st (of all days) we started AcoustiCafe's COVID-19 Song-a-Day Event, and plan to continue it throughout the Quarantine. It certainly lifts our spirits to get together and play some music at least once a day, so we hope it helps others take a little break from the day as well

That's a great idea, to build this into a daily routine.



And don't worry, we all live together so this is not violating social distancing or stay at home orders (family band). Our daughter on the cajon is "at risk" (Cystic Fibrosis), so although she's in much better health these days on the newest CF drug (thank God for that), we are still very cautious.

Jeff

Yes, stay safe. 

ST

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