This will be obvious to any L1 user but I just had glaring evidence of the value of presets. I am playing in a friend's wedding this Friday and I am running my guitar and vocals through the church's house system, no L1. :-(

My buddy sent me pictures of the house mixer and there is no individual channel EQ. My plan was to run my vocals and guitar into my Alesis mini mixer and run a line out to the house system.

I set up my L1 (model 2) and I was practicing the song running guitar and vocals into the T1.

To get my levels set, I got out the Alesis, plugged my guitar and mic into that and ran a line out the L1. The difference was shocking! I have always appreciated the EQ Presets but I have never jumped back and forth with the same mic and guitar from Presets (with the T1) to no Presets (with the Alesis) I was able to get the Alesis to sound OK with some tweaking but it lacks a certain smoothness that is hard to describe. Really makes me appreciate the Presets!

Anyway, I had been putting off getting a power supply for the T1. The power supply is being overnighted, it will arrive tomorrow and I'll run everything through the T1 and out to the house system!

Enjoy the day!
Matt

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Hi Matt,

It's early in the week, and I hope you get your power supply in time, but if you don't, you can still use the L1™ Model II Power Stand as a gigantic power supply. That is, it will not hurt anything if you run it without the speakers. (ref: No Speakers Attached - MikeZ-at-Bose).

But if the wedding is local, I would pop the whole rig (speakers and all) into the trunk of the car, just in case.

And yes, it is amazing how quickly we adapt to the Presets and then we grow to rely on them.
Thanks ST!
I have used the base of the L1 to power the T1 when I have downloaded different Presets. The guy at Bose who took my order said the power supply should be here by tomorrow.

I'm anxious to hear how the Presets will sound coming out of a different speaker system. The wedding is out of town but I probably will have all my gear in the trunk.

Take care,
Matt
Hey Matt

I've done pretty much all the presets, except for collaborations with various ToneMatch partners. It's amazing to me (over and over again) how much low midrange (on close-vocal mics) and mid-midrange (on guitars with pickups, accordions with pickups, etc) have to be taken out to make them sound normal. What could this possibly mean?

1. The L1 has way too much excessive midrange in the 250 and 1000 Hz octaves

OR

2. These sound sources (mics, guitars, etc) sound ok through most "other" systems, so most systems out there have large midrange deficiencies.

If you play a well-recorded CD through any of the flat inputs on either L1, it sounds simply normal and spectrally-balanced. It certainly doesn't sound like "no highs and no lows" like the idiotic banter from Bose-bashing posters. Actually, we would have to post such nonsense here, simply because of our open-dialog charter. This actually did happen early on, until other posters started saying "could you be a bit more specific?". (uh oh, the light of truth. time to go back under the rock).

Anyway, what this means is envelope #2, plain and simple.

So if your mystery system is voiced to a normal-sounding spectral distribution (like the L1's), the presets in the T1 will work fine. If not (a really good probability, especially if it's an odd-brand "installed" system), all bets are off. Actually, even if it's a really good installed system but all the controls (like the house EQ) are readily accessible, chances are this will fall into the "not" category too. In either case, the loop is wide open at this point. Might as well leave the T1 in the car.
Cliff,
Are you saying that I am better off running through my Alesis mini-mixer than the T1?

The church mixer in the picture my friend sent is a Bogen Gold Seal Series. I've attached a picture at the bottom. It looks very basic. I am assuming that I may only get one channel with no EQ'ing so I have to run into a mixer of some kind, either the Alesis or the T1.

Thanks for your help,
Matt
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Originally posted by open-road-matt:
Cliff,
Are you saying that I am better off running through my Alesis mini-mixer than the T1?

The church mixer in the picture my friend sent is a Bogen Gold Seal Series. I've attached a picture at the bottom. It looks very basic. I am assuming that I may only get one channel with no EQ'ing so I have to run into a mixer of some kind, either the Alesis or the T1.

Thanks for your help,
Matt


Matt,

What Cliff is getting at is the fact that the house system may be 'voiced' any number of ways. In almost all cases a house system will be voiced quite differently from an L1, which will make the presets sound much differently than intended.

We just don't know what will happen. The presets may work great, they may not work well. No way to tell until soundcheck.

Bring the T1 though - worst case scenario is you leave your EQ's flat.

What I would do is set your guitar and vocals to the 'flat,zEQ controls' setting in their respective categories. That way, you will have the zEQ controls for your instrument available. This will give you some flexibility so you can do your own EQing on the fly if the presets don't get you to where you want to be.

Good luck, let us know how it goes,
MikeZ

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