L1 Model II

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Using proprietary Bose® technology, L1 systems combine  PA and monitors into a single, highly portable unit. The  loudspeaker can be positioned behind or to the side —and you hear what the audience hears.

Highly portable PA and monitor combined for solo performers, DJs and general-purpose use. Fixed vertical control with 180° horizontal coverage Reduced vulnerability to feedback.

Three systems to choose from (Compact, Model 1S, Model II)
Two passive bass module options (B1 or B2)
Consistent coverage and tonal balance, portability and easy setup.

Hey, long time gone...

  Thinking of getting a L1 model 2. Had the Classic for a few years and it was nice as long as there wasn't a lot of background noise, bars, loud talking, etc. Just wondering if the Model 2 is better in those situations, and a stupid question . What the **** does Phaelates mean. The dictionary doesn't even know. Guitar center has systems advertised both ways model 2 and model 2 Phaelates.  Thanks ,, Don

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Quoting something pretty old that I found through Google search:
"Several years ago California enacted a law prohibiting the use of phaelates, an ingredient in plastic packaging. Bose complied and created packaging without phaelates. It was a packaging change only - the product inside remained the same.

Mark-at-Bose"

Hi Don,

Mark-at-Bose posted:

Several years ago California enacted a law prohibiting the use of phaelates, an ingredient in plastic packaging. Bose complied and created packaging without phaelates. It was a packaging change only - the product inside remained the same. 

Source: Phaeletes

Cheers,

ST

Hi Don,

Don posted:

Hey, long time gone...

  Thinking of getting a L1 model 2. Had the Classic for a few years and it was nice as long as there wasn't a lot of background noise, bars, loud talking, etc. Just wondering if the Model 2 is better in those situations,

In terms of audio output, the L1 Model II and the L1 Classic are very similar. However, the L1 Model II has much more even coverage of the mid-high frequencies as you move off-axis. In other words, you can hear the mid-high frequencies better as you listen from the sides (extreme left and right) of the Cylindrical Radiator®.  In practical terms, this means you can be sitting or standing beside the L1 Model II and still hear it clearly.  You had to be closer to center, in front of an L1 Classic to hear it as well.

If there is a lot of background noise, you will still hear it.  A traditional approach is to put a LOUD monitor facing you, between you and the audience. That can mask the sound of the background noise.  If you put the L1 behind you, as recommended, you don't get the masking effect. However, if you use an L1 Model II (compared to the L1 Classic), you have more options for places you can stand in relation to the Cylindrical Radiator® - and still hear it clearly.

ST

So, where in the world are these guys on eBay , guitar center, Reverb getting the idea that the word phaelates is a discription of the bose L1 systems? I thought it might mean the speakers sections only and the base unit they connect to wasn't included... ...

   My playing situation is everything from a 5 pc grass band to solo to 3 pc. seger, beatles eagles, etc. All the places I perform where there is room to put the system behind us and people are talking softly, it's better than great. But put us in a tight, loud bar with the system maybe to our side and angled in toward the band SLIGHTLY because of lack of space and it's hard to get enough push to be heard in the back of the room.

Hi Don,

We were typing at the same time, and I had not see your post (directly above) when I replied.

Don posted:

So, where in the world are these guys on eBay , guitar center, Reverb getting the idea that the word phaelates is a discription of the bose L1 systems?

The term was probably used once or twice in a product description years ago. I think it drifted into some text on the Guitar Center website. It's been copy/pasted here and there.

I thought it might mean the speakers sections only and the base unit they connect to wasn't included... ...

My playing situation is everything from a 5 pc grass band to solo to 3 pc. seger, beatles eagles, etc. All the places I perform where there is room to put the system behind us and people are talking softly, it's better than great.

Yes.

But put us in a tight, loud bar with the system maybe to our side and angled in toward the band SLIGHTLY because of lack of space and it's hard to get enough push to be heard in the back of the room.

You will probably hear the L1 Model II better than the L1 Classic. You may not need to angle it toward the band as much. However, if there is a lot of background noise, you will still hear it.  The only way to overcome the background noise you hear on the stage, is to mask it with a louder sound source. You can put the L1 behind you (I know - no room) or put monitors between you and the audience. In almost every situation I've encountered this conundrum, if there was room for big floor monitors, there was room to put the L1 behind the band. 

Some people are using smaller monitors for these difficult situations. I have a couple of Bose S1 Pro systems for that.

ST

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