L1 Model II

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Using proprietary Bose® technology, L1 systems combine  PA and monitors into a single, highly portable unit. The  loudspeaker can be positioned behind or to the side —and you hear what the audience hears.

Highly portable PA and monitor combined for solo performers, DJs and general-purpose use. Fixed vertical control with 180° horizontal coverage Reduced vulnerability to feedback.

Three systems to choose from (Compact, Model 1S, Model II)
Two passive bass module options (B1 or B2)
Consistent coverage and tonal balance, portability and easy setup.

Clear all settings for a single T1® Channel

I would really like it if you could clear all settings for single T1® channel.

My proposed implementation would be a press and hold of the FX Mute button for a specific channel. This would be followed by a confirmation message on the screen and confirmed by pressing one of the three screen buttons.

Use Case:
On those occasions at a gig where I am connecting a new instrument or sound source. I would like a fast way to clear all the existing settings so I don't have to step through all the possible settings to make sure that I am starting from "flat" and "dry".

Real Life Example:
Hooked up a new preamp to T1® Channel 3 the other night. I was in a hurry and under some pressure to get going fast. I set the ToneMatch Preset to something that should have sounded great. Things sounded terrible because I rarely use this channel and the last time I had been using it for an acoustic guitar in an extremely bass heavy environment. I had the lows rolled off in the zEQ.

In the heat of the moment, I forgot to check ALL the settings.

It didn't help that I had a couple of guys complaining about the sound and sniping at me "If we had control over the sound through the board, we could fix that for you right away".

When I regained my composure I got it straightened out and sounding great. But a one button channel reset would have been nice.

Anybody else have ideas?

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That's a GOOD one ST!!! I'll vote for a "Clear a single T1 Channel Settings" option.

More User Scenes

I would like some additional User Scenes to store different configs for different venues, band configurations, different instrument combinations, etc. Also, a better way to clear (return to defaults for all channels) a User Scene on the fly (when away from a computer).

Clone Capability

I would like to just connect my T1 with my friend's T1 and "upload and/or download" all my settings, user scenes, etc. This would be accomplished easily with a Cat 5E cable between T1s or a 1/4" guitar cable.

One More Channel

I would also like to see one more channel added to the T1 (like Ch.1 - 3 w/phantom power) and still retain the current stereo Ch. 4/5. With one more channel, I could run one vocal and one instrument mic to one L1 and another vocal and instrument mic to another L1, plus plug-in my Bass. Ah...the perfect mixer!

Thanks for asking!
Pulling this in from another thread.

Digital Delay - memory configurable and Tap/Tempo


quote:
Originally posted by Craig-at-Bose:
Hi KV_Rielly,

Let me try to respond to your questions in the same order you asked them at the begining of your thread.

1.) You are correct the FX Mute does not stop signal going into the T1 effects so when you un-mute you will immedialy hear the audio that has been going into the effect. Unfortunatly, the bypass works the same way. As Dan pointed out what you really want is a Pre FX Mute. In order to deliver this feature we would need to update the firmware in the T1.

2.) 500ms is the limit per channel (a total of 2 seconds if you combine all channels). This is a hardware limitation on the T1. The delay memory cannot be increased on your unit.

Would you be willing to share the total available delay bewtween all 4 channels. This would allow you to use the all of the delay on a single channel or share it over all four channels:

For example:
CH1 - 1000ms
CH2 - 250ms
CH3 - 250ms
CH4 - 500ms

No promises but this might be a feature we could look at adding at some point in the future.

3.) Good comment on the Tap Tempo feature. What button would you prefer to use to tap in the delay time?

Let me know what you think.

Craig



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Originally posted by ST:
Hi Craig,

This is a really neat idea - being able to combine the memory or deploy it across the channels.

As for the button to use for Tap/Tempo...

It looks like the middle button under the display would work. When looking at the Digital Delay settings, tapping the middle button does not have a function assigned to it. The other buttons do.


quote:
Originally posted by Joelheck:
I can't picture trying to read the Display Panel at that size.


Actually, the screen would not have to be shrunk much if at all. The screen is about 1.5" and a standard 1 space rack unit is about 1.75"

I'm not saying this would be for everyone (or even possible). I'm back to using a rack now and to have my T1 in my rack bag, already partially hooked up is just my own personal selfish fantasy! :-)

Matt
I remember the good and the bad on that.

I used to have everything in a rolling rack stand. Setup was soo easy. Rackmount wireless, mixer, amp, etc,etc. Plug in the speaker and go with it.

The only problem, was stairs and the mini trailer to haul it around.

Nothing sounds like the L1 though and am I ever glad to dump that trailer.

My backing up was not pretty.
Mine is only a 4 space rack bag and that took the place of a case of equal size. I have my guitar preamp in one space and a 3 space rack vault for my harps, mics, cables, etc. in there too. So not much more to haul but I can't stop thinking of how cool it would be to have my mixer (or T1) in the rack.

I'm already spoiled by how easy the L1 is to transport and set up but I can't help thinking of ways to cut down my set up/tear down time even more.

I'm probably looking at a total of about a minute on each end to remove my T1 from it's hard case and it's little sleeve, take off the top cover and plug it in but it's fun to think of the T1 in the rack!

Matt
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I would really like it if you could clear all settings for single T1® channel

Yes! This would have save me one time already.

TAP TEMPO Button(fabulous idea):
ANY of the three *screen parameter* dial buttons would not be the best since they are of the *clicky* variety, harder to push.
Although those buttons are in the best position for that feature, and the most logical place to be,
the *soft touch* illuminated buttons would be easier to tap a steady tempo.
Hi Drumr, Mark,

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Originally posted by Drumr:

TAP TEMPO Button(fabulous idea):
ANY of the three *screen parameter* dial buttons would not be the best since they are of the *clicky* variety, harder to push.
Although those buttons are in the best position for that feature, and the most logical place to be,
the *soft touch* illuminated buttons would be easier to tap a steady tempo.


Soft touch buttons => good.

Mark: flashing the tempo = > good.
I guess for my 2 cents I would agree with montaramike. I play a lot of outdoor or patio gigs and it is hard to impossible sometimes to see the lights. That said there are not many lcd screens or other products that do well in sunlight. What I would like is a software based patch editor/librarian like you have for synths.
Tunable Cylindrical Radiator®

While we're talking about blue-sky ideas, inspired by valvenerd's thought about swappable cylindrical radiators®, what about being able to vary the dispersion pattern, varying shape or distribution of the frequencies?

I only mention it here because I would expect to control that from the T1®.


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Originally posted by ST:
Hi valvernerd,

I wonder if, (in some other incarnation of a Cylindrical Radiator), the dispersion pattern could be "tuned". I expect that it's possible. I think it is done with the MB4s. Wouldn't that be interesting?

quote:
Originally posted by valvenerd:
Here s a thought. Is it possible for the Bose people to manufacture a "classic" column that fits into a Model II stand?

That way musicians can mix and match the system that suits them and can have both?
Oh my...I love the idea of a "clone" feature as well as a "clear all" feature. Both of those would be immensely helpful! I also love the idea of a tap delay, but for my purposes I would sacrifice all the above to have:

An assignable footswitch to allow channel mute, effect on/off, system mute, or to cycle scenes (more scenes would then be a plus).
Footswitch, did someone say: "Footswitch"?

Like Tom, this would be my top choice.

A few ways to implement a footswitch:

  • via a Midi interface and using one of the many midi foot controllers already on the market. I have an elaborate computer soundcard which, to save space, has a multipin mini DIN connector and Y cable with a mini DIN to two 5pin DIN connectors for the midi in and out. I was considering adding a midi foot controller to my Yamaha 01V which is fully midi mapped. This would allow muting, effects selection, volume control, scene changes... But then I bought my L1 and now I rarely use my 01V.
  • via a small connector with a Bose P1 digital pedal with 6 to 12 switches and an expression pedal. The user would be able to select which feature each switch controls.
  • via a small multi connector with a Bose P1 analogue pedal with 6 to 12 switches and an expression pedal. The user would be able to select which feature each switch controls.
  • via a wireless sock with sensors under each toe. The user would be able to select which feature each toe controls. Big Grin On second thought, ignor this one as it would likely be problematic for toe tapping musicians Frown
Hello, DHurley


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Originally posted by DHurley:
Yeah, I'm totally down with the footswitch idea! I've been wanting one of those since I bought my stick. 5 pin DIN connector would probably work. I would love to have an expression pedal so that you could control volume on the fly.





Your original post with feature requests for your Classic/Model I are now in a new discussion for L1® Model I Feature Requests

quote:
Originally posted by DHurley:
My other requests are:

Stereo RCA in's

A non-compensated/non-compressed main out for going into another sub other than a b1. In other words, something that bypasses all the bose compression and protection circuitry.

A channel out that is post insert, so that when you jack into another system, any effects that you are running via the inserts, translate into the other system.

All these are requests based on the classic systems as I do not know if they've fixed these on the newer ones.
Tuner Calibration Function:
I have mentioned this in an earlier post, and I think it would be an easily added feature that would be useful for many folks/situations. Further, it would bring the T1 tuner's capabilities up to that of many cheap tuners. A $19 Korg CA-30 tuner can calibrate A from 410-480 Hz in 1 Hz steps.

Jeff
Another feature request originally posted in

Overdrive

quote:
Originally posted by tomdavisDOTcom:
I never got a response from a few months back. Would anyone besides me desire an overdrive patch in the T1? I do a few songs where I could use it and would like to not set up a pedal. Can anyone at Bose respond as to the odds of providing this? Thanks
quote:
Originally posted by ST:
Hi Craig,

This is a really neat idea - being able to combine the memory or deploy it across the channels.

As for the button to use for Tap/Tempo...

It looks like the middle button under the display would work. When looking at the Digital Delay settings, tapping the middle button does not have a function assigned to it. The other buttons do.


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How about a foot switch possibility?
Hi there !

Saveable presets per channel, not just global "scenes".
Both myself and my bandmate play umpteen different guitars and a mandolin.
One end of the jack goes into our own Channel and the other end goes into the instrument.

Would be great if all we needed to do is scroll through a list of our own saved presets of our instruments - all while within that channel.

eg. just finsihed playing my parlour guitar with B-Band pickup, now switching to my Gibson J-200 with magnetic soundhole pickup - change preset to J-200 - done. Now plugging in my National resonator with Highlander piezo pickup - put that preset on - done. Next song - mandolin - mandolin preset next - done.

Could this be a software upgrade (download even ?) ???

Go to Scenes - press (for example) Edit Channel button and hold while scrolling through that channel's list (with one of the underscreen 3 knobs ?) of user-made own presets.
Hi again !

I guess my request isn't asking for it to do any new function - I'm only asking for it to be easier to access presets already in the Tonematch, PER CHANNEL, instead of only per global scene.

Any chance ?

Could it not just be a software change (additional choice in Scene mode) ?
A "Save As" function for scenes. When at a gig where some changes to EQ have happened that could be used again--such as playing a big outdoor gig--it would be great to save that scene under another name for future use.

It was my bandmate's idea, and a good one I thought (unless it's alread possible and I missed it?). She commented that she sort of expected that in most software.

Mary
Feature request from Tell us how you use Scenes


quote:
Originally posted by Kova:
Hi Neil,

I'd like you to know that the "Scenes" feature has been INVALUABLE to me. I use it ALL THE TIME and can't imagine gigging without it. The only thing I wish is that you could override the factory scenes to save more custom ones. That would be my only request as I'm sure a lot of other T1 users feel the same way.
Feature request / suggestion from Tell us how you use Scenes


quote:
Originally posted by Kova:
Hi Neil,

Along with the suggestion of overriding the factory scenes on the T1, may I also suggest to re-program the Singer/Songwriter setting at the factory before you ship the T1. If you'd like a new user to be really pleased straight out of the box, this setting needs to be changed badly. The way it is now is dead and flat and not a good representation of what the T1 is capable of. My suggestion is to change the Mic from flat to the SM58 setting (most commonly used Mic on the planet) and change the guitar setting from flat to the Taylor T5. Out of all the ToneMatch settings I've tried, the T5 setting makes ANY guitar sound really great.

I realize the Singer/Songwriter Scene has everything set to FLAT so people can start from a clean slate but I think it would please NEW users if that scene was already set up with a near optimum performance straight out of the box.
There's probably a good reason for this feature not being available, but perhaps on future T1 iterations we might see an XLR master out
jack instead of 1/4". Not for enhanced audio quality (of which there might be none), but to carry phantom power from the L1 Channel 1 or 2
inputs back to the T1 so us Model I owners wouldn't have to drag around another adapter! *slightly envious of Model II owners* Big Grin

I just checked my T1 power adapter and it puts out 18 volts DC. Hmmm.

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