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T1® Are more inputs required?

I sometimes see requests or suggestions that the T1® should have more inputs. While I understand the perceived need I think that the T1® is an excellent personal mixer and I'd like to explore that here.
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Hi Brian, 7777 and others who may have followed my link from the previous discussion .

I'm very much of the mind that each performer should be able to control his/her own sound. I happily relinquished the controls of a central mixer long ago. I never wanted to be the sound-guy who was also trying to perform, and did it reluctantly for years. I have not done this since getting my first L1® (nine years ago) and cannot imagine going back.

To that end, I prefer to control my own sound, and let others be responsible for theirs.

I treat the T1® as a personal mixer, an extension of my microphone and instruments. Sometimes I set up like this.


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L1® Model II or L1® Model 1S
T1 ToneMatch® audio engine

Vocal Microphone with processor like TC-Helicon VoiceLive Play GTX
Acoustic Guitar tied into vocal processor
Electric (or other) Guitar through an amp modeller with effects (e.g. Line6 POD HD500)
Electric Guitar through Roland VG-99 Virtual Guitar System
PorchBoard Floor Bass



It's very rare that I use all of these in the same gig but I might for a solo show.

All my regular partners for duo shows have their own L1®s (various models) and most have a T1®.

In a pinch if I'm working with someone else who does not have an L1® I'll either bring one for him/her or at the very least, I'll bring a T1® for that person to use. I can then plug that second T1® into my L1® and we're ready to go.

Would it be cheaper to buy a mixer with more inputs? Maybe, but nothing else has the Presets (that's huge for me). But the deal-maker for me, is that with multiple L1®s (one for each performer) each performer has control of (and responsibility for) his/her own sound.

I can set up a T1® for someone else in minutes. I can teach someone what s/he needs to know about managing his/her mix and volume in moments. And from that point, I'm hands of the controls and if things need to be adjusted,... we talk, just like we would do if there were no applification at all.

I do the same thing in band situations: Multiple L1®s and if two people are sharing an L1® then most of the time they each get their own T1®.

It works.
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Originally posted by ST:
Here's an approach for running two T1®s into Compact Channel 2



Don't forget that you can also take a cable with a 1/4" male on one end and an RCA male and use the RCA inputs on the Compact along with the 1/4" (Tonematch off) - so you'd have 1 T1 plugged into the 1/4" jack of Channel 2 and 1 T1 plugged into the RCA jack of Channel 2. Doing so would free up Channel 4/5 on both T1's.
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Originally posted by ST:
I sometimes see requests or suggestions that the T1® should have more inputs. While I understand the perceived need I think that the T1® is an excellent personal mixer and I'd like to explore that here.


Sometimes there is a perceived need. Then there are times when there is a real need. . .
Hi jtr,

I opened this discussion with "the T1® is an excellent personal mixer and I'd like to explore that here."

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Originally posted by jtr:
The T1 should have 4 mic inputs.


How often would a single performer need four microphones?

I can see needing four or five microphones if you wanted to mic up a trap kit but other than that?

Oh, and you can run four microphones into a T1®. If I were mic'ing up a trap kit, I suppose you could use the method in the linked article to get up to five microphones into a T1®.
Hi Tom the Guitar Guy,

Thanks for this idea.

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Originally posted by Tom the Guitar Guy:

Don't forget that you can also take a cable with a 1/4" male on one end and an RCA male and use the RCA inputs on the Compact along with the 1/4" (Tonematch off) - so you'd have 1 T1 plugged into the 1/4" jack of Channel 2 and 1 T1 plugged into the RCA jack of Channel 2. Doing so would free up Channel 4/5 on both T1's.


I have often used the Compact Channel 2 RCA jack for my PorchBoard Floor Bass, but had not considered using it for a second T1®. I've documented that now.


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Thanks!
I guess what I need to do is break down and buy another T1. All points are well taken and appreciated.

BTW - I use an electric-acoustic guitar, a vocal mic, a dedicated harmonica mic, a ukelele, and guitar synth through my L1 system. Fortunately, I've got a classic, so there are 2 additional mic inputs on that unit.
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Originally posted by 7777:
I guess what I need to do is break down and buy another T1. All points are well taken and appreciated.

BTW - I use an electric-acoustic guitar, a vocal mic, a dedicated harmonica mic, a ukelele, and guitar synth through my L1 system. Fortunately, I've got a classic, so there are 2 additional mic inputs on that unit.


If you have similar voiced instruments/mics (like same microphones, etc) that would use the same Tone Match preset, you could always pick up a small mixer and plug all of those into that and then into one channel of the T1 - if you didn't want/aren't able to purchase an additional T1.

Just a thought.
Hi 7777

Do you have enough inputs on the T1® when you're playing solo?

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Originally posted by 7777:
BTW - I use an electric-acoustic guitar, a vocal mic, a dedicated harmonica mic, a ukelele, and guitar synth through my L1 system.


Looking at the list, you should be okay.

Is the second T1® for your duo partner (brother?) in the Acoustic Twist show?

What kind of guitar synth are you using?
I've found the T! to be a handy personal/compact mixer that works well as a sub mixer to larger systems for some of the gigs I do. On the subject of inputs, it is lacking in remote control capability, though. For my gigs, I need a way to control the fx in the unit without reaching over while I'm playing and trying to adjust fx levels, fx changes, tap tempos, etc. A midi or foot switch/pedal control input would be great. You can buy an outboard fx unit with this capability to interface with the T1, which I've done, but then the compact advantage of the T1 goes away. I think most digital mixers these days have one or more midi/foot control inputs, so that's what I'd like to see--there's so much power for its size inside the T1, but a lot of it is unusable for me in live situations due to the lack of a hands-free way to control it.
"the T1® is an excellent personal mixer and I'd like to explore that here."

ST, you'll get no argument from me. I just recently bought a T1. Haven't gigged with it, but have set up a starting scene for me to work with. Now that I've had a chance to get to know it, I am convinced that it's an excellent piece of gear. (Couldn't believe how easy it was to figure out how to use. Started using the manual, quickly gave up and winged it and pretty much was able to figure everything out on my own. I was expecting more of a learning curve.)

I think the point many of us make when saying we'd like a version with more inputs is that, sometimes, you need more than a personal mixer. For instance, my duo partner is not very savvy when it comes to sound gear. I would much rather he not have his own personal mixer. Yes, I could control two T1s, but that has its own share of issues, such as:

1. Do I really want to buy a second personal mixer for my duo partner? And just how do I convince my wife that this makes sense? (For that matter, how do I convince myself?)
2. Can I convince my duo partner that he should buy his own personal mixer?
3. If I manage to convince him to buy one, can I trust him to use it properly or can I convince him to let me control it?
4. Wouldn't it be more cost effective to have a single unit with perhaps twice the inputs at (hopefully) less than twice the price? Plus, I would only need one power supply, which saves a bit there.

I seriously considered getting a better mixer than my Xenyx FX1202 (I was thinking Soundcraft EFX8). I really wanted the Tonematch presets, wasn't all that sold on the other capabilities of the T1, or at least the need for them. Finally decided to get a T1 for me and will continue to plug my partner into the Xenyx. Would rather not have to carry two mixers, but it does get the job done. (Of course, since I have an L1 Classic, I could make due with the T1 plus the inputs on the Classic; not sure I want to go there, though.)

Since I now have the T1, the point is moot (for me). I have plenty of inputs in my Xenyx mixer (plus I have an old Mackie 1202 I can add if I really need inputs), so I'll use the T1 for me, other mixer(s) for others.
There are undoubtedly other comparable high-quality multi-featured mixers on the market, that cost less, however, IMHO, the Bose T1 digital approach offers the highest quality features, in a small footprint configuration, for a very reasonable price.

I think that I've just figured out the answer to the lack of inputs dilemma. Thanks to all!
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Since I now have the T1, the point is moot (for me). I have plenty of inputs in my Xenyx mixer (plus I have an old Mackie 1202 I can add if I really need inputs), so I'll use the T1 for me, other mixer(s) for others.

P


Hi

Bose "will" market a quality more "traditional" mixer for those who need more inputs and want to control the vocal and musical levels of a band. You can take this statement to the bank.

AJ
Class Entertainment
"music is neither new or old...it just "is"
Bring on a new and improved T1, please. While I love my T1, there are times when I could use a second one. I have been holding out though, in hopes that something new is coming. I am sure the wish list of features could go on and on, but I'm sure the guys at Bose have been taking notes. For me, just a couple extra channels would be nice and whatever other features would be added, would just be a bonus.
i would love to see a new t1 on the horizon, the ability to fine tune parameric eq on bass mid and treble frequencies would be great, i find the para eq on the t1 too limiting in the sense that you can only alter 1 frequency.
a few more inputs for me too would be good, i have an act i do sound for with 2 vocals, 2 guitars (for a couple of songs only),(plus accoustic guitar) and backing tracks,i get by by swapping cables when needed.
so, a few more inputs and a full para eq are all thats required,
As our stage setup gets more complicated, we are running out of channels even with a T1 each.

Val:
Vocal mic
6-String guitar
12-string guitar
Tenor ukulele
U-Bass ukulele

Jimmy:
Vocal mic
6-String guitar
12-string guitar
Tenor ukulele

We'd love it if Bose released a next generation ToneMatch with more channels - maybe 6 channel strips each?

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