Bose F1 Model 812 with F1 Subwoofer

Discuss the Bose F1 Model 812 and F1 Subwoofer here.

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One of the reasons I bought into the Bose F1 system was because I wanted to eliminate speaker stands. My options were Bose L models (which I don't like because I'm a bass junkie), or the RCF Evox models. I went with the F1 because I was able to eliminate speaker stands AND rival my QSC rig (2 k12s and 1 KW181).

I have concerns now that the integrated stand will not get the speakers up high enough as I am accustomed to. I don't want to put my 812s on stands because that is taking a step backward in my opinion. Also, subs hit well when they are coupled or placed by a wall. I don't want to put my 812s on stands just to couple subs.

I want to have 2 F1 Systems sitting beautifully on each side of my station. However, separating the subs like this will give me uneven bass coverage and cancellations...maybe not directly on the dancefloor where it counts, but throughout the rest of the room. This may or may not be a big deal.

So to cut down on cancellations and gain some db, I will be purchasing a 3rd sub. This sub can be place under my table and technically between my other 2 subs that have the 812s on top. 

Anyone have any other suggestions. I'll try anything to keep me away from speaker stands.

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Hi DJ8X,

As long as the F1 Subwoofers subwoofers are separated, there's going to be some interaction between them. There's no official recommendation about distance between systems.  Let's hope others join the conversation to share experiences.

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DJ8X posted:

One of the reasons I bought into the Bose F1 system was because I wanted to eliminate speaker stands. My options were Bose L models (which I don't like because I'm a bass junkie), or the RCF Evox models. I went with the F1 because I was able to eliminate speaker stands AND rival my QSC rig (2 k12s and 1 KW181).

I have concerns now that the integrated stand will not get the speakers up high enough as I am accustomed to. I don't want to put my 812s on stands because that is taking a step backward in my opinion. Also, subs hit well when they are coupled or placed by a wall. I don't want to put my 812s on stands just to couple subs.

I want to have 2 F1 Systems sitting beautifully on each side of my station. However, separating the subs like this will give me uneven bass coverage and cancellations...maybe not directly on the dancefloor where it counts, but throughout the rest of the room. This may or may not be a big deal.

So to cut down on cancellations and gain some db, I will be purchasing a 3rd sub. This sub can be place under my table and technically between my other 2 subs that have the 812s on top. 

Anyone have any other suggestions. I'll try anything to keep me away from speaker stands.

I have gotten have gotten great results (indoors) in rooms rated for 350-400 people spreading the stacks out 25' apart on either side of the stage (when doing sound for bands). 

As far as DJ work I put usually put the F1 stacks ten feet apart and have also gotten good results (indoors). 

Outdoors I always run subs together and put 812 tops on stands. When ever I don't do this I do hear lots cancellation issues in the low frequencies.  

The height seems low on the stacks (if you are use to traditional PA speakers on stands), but with the design of the F1 812 tops it is typically not needed to get them any higher than the stacks provide. 

I have four F1 subs and have never felt the need to use more than two at my DJ shows having plenty of bass so far...

If you need more bass than two F1 subs can provide... I would buy two more subs and run them one on each side of the stacks... I think if you just add one in the center you may just add more issues with cancellation defeating the purpose. Although you could always try a third sub in the center and see if you like how it sounds to you... 

@jdbassentertainment.com thanks for the insight. I will follow your outside suggestions as well as the indoor. Here's a list of diagrams that show bass nulls associated with different sub placement. This is why I was considering a third sub vs 4. 

This is 2 coupled togetherLive-bass-Fig03-kwCt5lj4wWTQ5xnvJ6QzAqTM9MZVrsMj

This is 2 separated

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This is 3rd sub in line 

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This is 3rd sub 12ft behind line

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This was how i could keep the beautiful aesthetics of the F1 System and minimize low end cancellations. 

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