L1 Model II

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Running a Model 2 with a standard analogue mixer

Hi gang

I am doing a country show tomorrow which is a shared gig with two other players all doing a bit each and finally ending the night with all three of us playing out the show.

We all individually have our own PA but being a Bose owner mine is probably the best of the three so I am thinking of setting up my Model 2 and B2 for us all to use, it's a select audience of around 120 so I am thinking the Model 2 on it's own would be more than adequate.

Obviously my T1 doesn't have enough channels to cater for all three players so is it possible to use my 12 channel Allen & Heath mixer with my Model 2 and if so how would I connect it?

Alternatively as there are only about 120 in I could perhaps get away with both my L1 Compacts but the question still applies, how would I connect the mixer?

If I just run from one output of the desk then backing tracks will obviously run in mono and parts of the track will be missing so how do I compensate for this?

Any tips of how best to approach the situation would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers folks

Geoff

PS - still loving my Bose gear. The B2 is heavier than the B1 but I don't regret buying it.

 

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Hi Geoff,

You've got a couple of choices here.

  1. Run the left and right outputs of your Allen & Heath mixer to your T1® Channel 4/5. 

    If the mixer output is XLR so you will also need two converters or cables that are XLR female to Balanced ¼ inch jack Tip-Ring-Sleeve.

    Female XLR to 1/4" Male TRS Balanced Adaptor Cable (audiopile.net)

  2. Get a mono output from your Allen & Heath mixer and run that to the L1® Model II power stand Analog Input. We have notes about that here:
    Stereo Mixer to Mono L1®

You'll only need one cable to connect the mixer to the Model II Power Stand.

Does that help?

ST

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You mentioned other pa systems what you can do use the l1 for vocals and the other for instruments the l1 is perfect for vocals because of the clarity of sound I have a tonematch as well but sometimes getting to the menu to make adjusments can be a pain a good old analog mixer with everything in front without having to navigate through the layers of a digital mixer can be refreshing on my opinion. 

Cheers fellas

Hi ST, the T1 link is interesting.

To make sure I understand what you are meaning would I connect the T1 as normal and then take a balanced XLR out from the left and right of the Allen and Heath and into 4/5 of the T1?

For example would I need to go from XLR left out and XLR right out into both inputs of the T1, basically two cables?

Presumably then everything outputting from the desk would then be passing through the T1 and this would presumably convert the signal to mono?

If I do it this way would I start with the master on the T1 at the usual 12 o’clock position and control overall output from the master desk?

If I just use the Allen and Heath and go straight into the analogue input of the Model 2 am I right in thinking I would need to adjust the trim control which would also basically mean I could clip the system when the gig is in full swing?

If I use the AH desk and run my iPad and backing tracks in would I use one channel and set the iPad to mono or would it be better to run the iPad in two channels?

I do actually have a special PCB Box which allows me to connect the iPad to a mixer but I haven’t needed to use it since I changed to Bose.

Grateful for any tips or suggestions.

Cheers guys

Geoff.

 

 

Hi Geoff,

Geoff posted:

Cheers fellas

Hi ST, the T1 link is interesting.

To make sure I understand what you are meaning would I connect the T1 as normal and then take a balanced XLR out from the left and right of the Allen and Heath and into 4/5 of the T1?

Yes.



For example would I need to go from XLR left out and XLR right out into both inputs of the T1, basically two cables?

Yes, although you could pan everything to one side and use just one cable.



Presumably then everything outputting from the desk would then be passing through the T1 and this would presumably convert the signal to mono?

Yes.



If I do it this way would I start with the master on the T1 at the usual 12 o’clock position and control overall output from the master desk?

Set the Allen & Heath mixer output to the maximum you will use. Then bring up the T1® Channel 4/5 trim so the light is solid green with flashes of yellow. If you see red, turn it down a little.

See T1® Gain Staging for details.



If I just use the Allen and Heath and go straight into the analogue input of the Model 2 am I right in thinking I would need to adjust the trim control which would also basically mean I could clip the system when the gig is in full swing?

Model II Analog Input

Model 1S Analog Input

  1. Set the Trim control on the power stand to the 0 (zero) position.
  2. Connect the audio source to the Analog Input
  3. Adjust the volume of the audio source to the maximum output without distortion.
  4. While playing the source, increase the Trim level so that the Signal/Clip indicator glows green or yellow.
  5. If the Signal/Clip indicator glows red, decrease the Trim level so that it glows only green or yellow.


If I use the AH desk and run my iPad and backing tracks in would I use one channel and set the iPad to mono or would it be better to run the iPad in two channels?

Either way. It shouldn't make a difference.



I do actually have a special PCB Box which allows me to connect the iPad to a mixer but I haven’t needed to use it since I changed to Bose.

Grateful for any tips or suggestions.

Cheers guys

Geoff.

All set?

ST

Cheers ST

It all makes sense now.

Presumably I can adopt the same connectivity if I decide to use both Compacts instead?

If I did use the Compacts would I simply take a line from left of the desk and go straight into the input or would I need to go into the mic XLR input on the L1?

I am now seriously considering investing in the T8, think that will cure similar issues in the future!

Geoff

Hi Geoff,

Geoff posted:

Cheers ST

It all makes sense now.

Great.



Presumably I can adopt the same connectivity if I decide to use both Compacts instead?

Yes, if you connect the A & H mixer to the T1®.



If I did use the Compacts would I simply take a line from left of the desk and go straight into the input or would I need to go into the mic XLR input on the L1?

Don't connect the A & H mixer to the L1® Compact Channel 1. That input has a ToneMatch Preset (Vocal Microphone) built-in.  That's not appropriate for a full range mix from the mixer.



I am now seriously considering investing in the T8, think that will cure similar issues in the future!

Geoff

Yes, the T8S could simplify things in the future.

You didn't mention how you are going to connect the two L1® Compacts. Are you planning to daisy-chain them?  Notes ->Compact Daisy Chain

For your gig (120 people, three performers) I would use the L1® Model II instead of the two Compacts.  But take an L1® Compact for backup.

ST

Hi ST

That seems like the way to go for tonight's gig. I will place the Model 11 to the front of the stage and set up both Compacts daisy-chained at the rear of the stage and run an output from the desk and use those for monitoring.

Fortunately my Allen and Heath has two separate monitor outputs and four Aux so it offers quite a lot of scope for multi player type gigs.

The stage at tonight's show is a fair size, around 30' wide and 20' deep so feedback shouldn't be an issue.

I have access from 1400 so that will give me plenty of time to have a play around and try various set ups but so far the one I've described above would seem the simplest way for tonight's show.

I've just ordered the T8 from Andertons, it will be with me Tuesday so at least I will be pretty well covered for future multi player applications.

Thanks for your help, I find this forum excellent, I've learned so much from this than anywhere else.

I will post some pics from tonight's show.

Hee Haw partner's.....

Geoff

 

 

Hi ST

Last night's show was superb. The rig worked like a dream.

I did as I suggested and put the Model 11 at the front of the stage and set both Compacts up at the rear and used them for monitoring.

To be honest I could have got away with one Compact for monitoring but having the two certainly filled the stage and helped fill the room.

The other two artistes were impressed with the Bose sound (one of them made an indication that he would look at investing in a couple of Compacts and he was actually looking at them on eBay during our interval).

I have to admit that I missed the T1.

I quite like the singer/songwriter preset that I usually use but the Allen & Heath worked fab once I'd set the EQ.

My T8 is on the way so future multi player gigs will be a doddle.

As always many thanks for all the tips and guidance.

Geoff

 

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