We have a group of 4 that sing in some small to medium venues, and would like to see if it's possible to use the T1 ToneMatch....utilizing the 4/5 channel for our 4th mic.  What are the pros and cons of this type of set up?

Also a recommendation for the best model of L1 would really help.

Since we sing to backing tracks, it appears we can use a laptop to connect/play our tracks via the USB port connection.  Correct?

Thanks in advance for any and all help!!

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Hi Wendol,

Thanks for your questions about setting up a T1® for your gospel quartet.

Wendol posted:

We have a group of 4 that sing in some small to medium venues, and would like to see if it's possible to use the T1 ToneMatch....utilizing the 4/5 channel for our 4th mic.  What are the pros and cons of this type of set up?

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Yes, you can connect a fourth microphone to your T1®.  Here's an excerpt of an article about how to do it.

T1 ToneMatch® Audio Engine / Microphone into Channel 4



You can use four microphones with a T1 ToneMatch® Audio Engine even though there are only 3 XLR inputs. Channel 4/5 can be used if you have an impedance matching transformer. Note that if your microphone requires phantom power, then you will need to supply that too as there is no phantom power on T1 ToneMatch® Audio Engine Channel 4/5.

T1Channel45Input.png      

   or LoToHighImpedanceMatchingTransformer.jpg

Dynamic Microphone

Microphone ⇒ microphone cable ⇒ Lo-to-High impedance matching transformer.

T1Channel4Microphone01.jpg

I used the microphone above and set the trim for T1® Channel 3 and then I use the same microphone with the impedance matching transformer in T1® Channel 4/5. The picture below shows that I was able to get the same input level on Channels 3 and 4 by using a higher trim setting on Channel 4/5. Please note: Your settings will probably be different depending on your microphone and your vocal style. The picture is to show you that the trim setting for Channel 4/5 will probably be higher than Channel 3. This does not affect the sound quality.

T1Channel4Microphone003.jpg

Different Adapter / Same Results

Note: This adapter also has an impedance matching transformer built into it.

T1Channel4Microphone002.jpg

Condenser Microphone

The microphone shown here is a clip-on instrument microphone, but if you are using a vocal microphone the same connections would apply.

Note: the Isomax device shown below is a standalone phantom power supply. You will not need this unless your microphone requires phantom power.

T1 Channel 4 Impedance Match Phantom.jpg

Note: the phantom power supply is only required if your microphone requires phantom power (e.g. condenser microphone). Most dynamic microphones will not require you to use a phantom power supply.

Link to the full article.

Wendol posted:

We have a group of 4 that sing in some small to medium venues, and would like to see if it's possible to use the T1 ToneMatch....utilizing the 4/5 channel for our 4th mic.  What are the pros and cons of this type of set up?

Also a recommendation for the best model of L1 would really help.

Please tell us more about "small to medium venues". How many people are we talking about?  Please tell us more about the physical layout of these venues.



Since we sing to backing tracks, it appears we can use a laptop to connect/play our tracks via the USB port connection.  Correct?

Yes, you can use the USB connection for your tracks. Here are some notes:

USB port on the T1®



Thanks in advance for any and all help!!

You are welcome.

ST

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Hi Wendol,

Thanks for the added information. An L1® Model 1S with a T1® and B2 bass module should be fine for your church settings with 200 in attendance. If your performances inspire robust singing from the congregants you will be happier with an L1® Model II.

More questions?

ST

Wendol posted:

We have a group of 4 that sing in some small to medium venues, and would like to see if it's possible to use the T1 ToneMatch....utilizing the 4/5 channel for our 4th mic.  What are the pros and cons of this type of set up?

Also a recommendation for the best model of L1 would really help.

Since we sing to backing tracks, it appears we can use a laptop to connect/play our tracks via the USB port connection.  Correct?

Thanks in advance for any and all help!!

Wendol - here's another thought and approach "from the dark side" :-}

(this will mot be popular or appreciated from the devotees..)

You might review and consider QSC TouchMix and Behringer Air XR12 mixers.  These mixers are (honestly) more modern and have the big advantage of mixing your volume, blend and tone wirelessly with a small tablet or even a large phone, via an app and built-in wifi network.  They work seamlessly with any Bose L1 model that suits your need and budget.  This means you or your sound person can walk around the room, all points, with mixer in hand to easily achieve the perfect blend for each performance.  These mixers also have very effective presets, eq, and fx.

Bottom Line - in your position I would purchase the QSC TouchMix 8 with 8 channels and EITHER .. TWO (2) Bose L1 Compacts OR, MAYBE, ONE (1) Bose L1S (the medium size).  In your very small 20-50 or 20-100 size audiences you could use a single Compact.  Bigger rooms and audiences use both Compacts placed appropriately for best coverage.  Even if you jumped up to the biggest L1 Model II, you might miss a second sound source for dispersion in a really big room, or an oddly shaped room.  And in THOSE situations - your REALLY NEED the walkaround mixing ability.

Behringer is a good choice also, in some ways a better design, but the QSC is very very good.  BOTH are simply better, more modern alternatives to the T1, with advanced, useful technology - apologize for stepping on toes here.  It's been nice knowing all you good people!  :-}

Mike in Texas posted:
Wendol posted:

We have a group of 4 that sing in some small to medium venues, and would like to see if it's possible to use the T1 ToneMatch....utilizing the 4/5 channel for our 4th mic.  What are the pros and cons of this type of set up?

Also a recommendation for the best model of L1 would really help.

Since we sing to backing tracks, it appears we can use a laptop to connect/play our tracks via the USB port connection.  Correct?

Thanks in advance for any and all help!!

Wendol - here's another thought and approach "from the dark side" :-}

(this will mot be popular or appreciated from the devotees..)

You might review and consider QSC TouchMix and Behringer Air XR12 mixers.  These mixers are (honestly) more modern and have the big advantage of mixing your volume, blend and tone wirelessly with a small tablet or even a large phone, via an app and built-in wifi network.  They work seamlessly with any Bose L1 model that suits your need and budget.  This means you or your sound person can walk around the room, all points, with mixer in hand to easily achieve the perfect blend for each performance.  These mixers also have very effective presets, eq, and fx.

Bottom Line - in your position I would purchase the QSC TouchMix 8 with 8 channels and EITHER .. TWO (2) Bose L1 Compacts OR, MAYBE, ONE (1) Bose L1S (the medium size).  In your very small 20-50 or 20-100 size audiences you could use a single Compact.  Bigger rooms and audiences use both Compacts placed appropriately for best coverage.  Even if you jumped up to the biggest L1 Model II, you might miss a second sound source for dispersion in a really big room, or an oddly shaped room.  And in THOSE situations - your REALLY NEED the walkaround mixing ability.

Behringer is a good choice also, in some ways a better design, but the QSC is very very good.  BOTH are simply better, more modern alternatives to the T1, with advanced, useful technology - apologize for stepping on toes here.  It's been nice knowing all you good people!  :-}

I will definitely explore this option......I can see many benefits from this approach........thanks for the insight!!

Hi Wendol,

I have a couple of L1® Compacts, and they are great. However,  I would use an L1® Model 1S or L1®  Model II for your gospel quartet and two hundred congregants

The L1® Model 1S will allow you to project your sound much farther than the L1® Compact  (two of them) without feedback.  The L1® Model II is even better than the L1® Model 1S in this respect.

As for oddly shaped spaces: If a listener cannot see the L1® then he may not be able to hear it. But all the models we are discussing have 180-degree horizontal dispersion. Odd shaped rooms are rarely a problem.  Given what you've told us, a single L1® Model 1S should be fine, unless the congregants are singing along. Then an L1® Model II would be better.



ST

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