First of all I apologize for the errors, I'm Brazilian and I do not speak English.

Very happy with my Bose Tonematch T4S, I hope to use this week.

One question for ST, my Ipad set to mono, P2 3.5mm plug for XLR as attached photo. There is problem with this connection or not.

Thanks for your attention, English through Google Translate.

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Hi Cleverson,

Welcome to our Bose Portable PA Community.  I'm glad you joined us.

Thank you for the pictures. This made it easy to understand your question, and to reply.

You don't need to connect both the tip and ring (yellow 2 and 3) to the XLR connector because you set the iPad output to mono.

Connecting 2 and 3 together is shorting the two outputs. This is not a good thing, and you don't need to do it because 2 plus 1 provide the full mono signal.

Does that help?
ST 

More notes: Why Not Wye

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What is the apparent link between pins 1 & 3 and 1 & the rectangular block at the top?

Personally I would have left 2&3 connected in case another device was desired to be connected at any time adhoc. Leaving the iPad in mono is fine or even stereo, signal is going to get there I would have thought, but I am here to learn too.

As for the 1 to 3 and connection to the block at top would avoid those completely.

Using this cable you are clearly using a mic channel input therefore any graphic setting on 5/6 will not apply?

Using a mic channel will give you much easier and faster control over music input volume.

If not the cable you have pictured then a normal stereo mini to two normal jacks might be better, leaving iPad in stereo, using inputs 5/6 and being able to fully employ graphic and limiter / gate and anything else to 5/6 you may want?

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Just my thoughts.... and I could be shot down... 

 

 

 

 

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Hi ScubaBadger,

ScubaBadger posted:

What is the apparent link between pins 1 & 3 and 1 & the rectangular block at the top?

XLR chassis lug



Personally I would have left 2&3 connected in case another device was desired to be connected at any time adhoc.

This shorts the iPad left and right outputs together. I don't recommend doing that.  More about that here:  Why Not Wye

Leaving the iPad in mono is fine or even stereo, signal is going to get there I would have thought, but I am here to learn too.

As for the 1 to 3 and connection to the block at top would avoid those completely.

Using this cable you are clearly using a mic channel input therefore any graphic setting on 5/6 will not apply?

Not applicable because using the XLR connection, he must be using channel 1, 2, 3, or 4.



Using a mic channel will give you much easier and faster control over music input volume.

If not the cable you have pictured then a normal stereo mini to two normal jacks might be better, leaving iPad in stereo, using inputs 5/6 and being able to fully employ graphic and limiter / gate and anything else to 5/6 you may want?

Inputs 5/6 are Aux Inputs. The Aux Inputs are wired to the Master Outputs with no processing except soft controls for pan and level. These have no processing (ToneMatch Preset, zeQ, ParaEQ, Effects or Reverb)



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Just my thoughts.... and I could be shot down... 

If you need processing and physical controls, you can use a cable like the one shown above, but this will take up two channels (out of 1, 2, 3, 4). Cleverson is running mono, so there's no need to take up two channels.

ST

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Hi Cleverson,

If you haven't already made the XLR cable, you can buy a cable like this.

Use only one of the 1/4" (6.3 mm) output jacks.

Set the iPad to mono output and connect to T4S channel 1, 2, 3 or 4.  This will give you the same result and you don't have to make a custom cable.

ST

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ScubaBadger posted:

What is the apparent link between pins 1 & 3 and 1 & the rectangular block at the top?

Personally I would have left 2&3 connected in case another device was desired to be connected at any time adhoc. Leaving the iPad in mono is fine or even stereo, signal is going to get there I would have thought, but I am here to learn too.

As for the 1 to 3 and connection to the block at top would avoid those completely.

Using this cable you are clearly using a mic channel input therefore any graphic setting on 5/6 will not apply?

Using a mic channel will give you much easier and faster control over music input volume.

If not the cable you have pictured then a normal stereo mini to two normal jacks might be better, leaving iPad in stereo, using inputs 5/6 and being able to fully employ graphic and limiter / gate and anything else to 5/6 you may want?

AF026C20-6A10-4199-B9DF-E8FABE7C5599

Just my thoughts.... and I could be shot down... 

 

 

 

 

Hello ScubaBadger, I need channels 1, 2, 3 or 4 to control.

ST posted:

Hi Cleverson,

Welcome to our Bose Portable PA Community.  I'm glad you joined us.

Thank you for the pictures. This made it easy to understand your question, and to reply.

You don't need to connect both the tip and ring (yellow 2 and 3) to the XLR connector because you set the iPad output to mono.

Connecting 2 and 3 together is shorting the two outputs. This is not a good thing, and you don't need to do it because 2 plus 1 provide the full mono signal.

Does that help?
ST 

More notes: Why Not Wye

Thanks ST, I already have the cable ready and I will change the connection.

Another question, when I use the ipad with headphone I can hear the right and left channels perfectly, I connected the ipad in stereo mode on the outputs 5/6 with Y cable and I plugged the headphone into the T4S, but the result was not the same even using the T4S with cable Y in 5/6 do the signs get together?

Hi Cleverson,

Cleverson posted:

Thanks ST, I already have the cable ready and I will change the connection.

Another question, when I use the ipad with headphone I can hear the right and left channels perfectly, I connected the ipad in stereo mode on the outputs 5/6 with Y cable and I plugged the headphone into the T4S, but the result was not the same even using the T4S with cable Y in 5/6 do the signs get together?



If you use channels 5 and 6, they are panned to the middle, but you can change that.

Turn the Rotary Selector to PAN/AUX.

Turn to Aux Input 5/6

Set 5 Pan all the way to the Left.

Set 6 Pan all the way to the Right.

That should give you stereo using the headphones.

ST

ST posted:

Hi Cleverson,

Cleverson posted:

Thanks ST, I already have the cable ready and I will change the connection.

Another question, when I use the ipad with headphone I can hear the right and left channels perfectly, I connected the ipad in stereo mode on the outputs 5/6 with Y cable and I plugged the headphone into the T4S, but the result was not the same even using the T4S with cable Y in 5/6 do the signs get together?



If you use channels 5 and 6, they are panned to the middle, but you can change that.

Turn the Rotary Selector to PAN/AUX.

Turn to Aux Input 5/6

Set 5 Pan all the way to the Left.

Set 6 Pan all the way to the Right.

That should give you stereo using the headphones.

ST

Thanks again ST, Bose is amazing.

I would here again disturbing rsss.

Among these 3 products below, would the first meet my expectations despite the manufacturer saying there is a loss of 6db? I could redo my cables again. Is it a very compact product or should I opt for another model?

Thank you.

1. http://whirlwindusa.com/catalo...ation-devices/isopod

2. http://whirlwindusa.com/catalo...s/direct-boxes/poddi

3. http://www.dsan.com/Audio/Audio.asp

Hi Cleverson,

How far away is the iPad from the T4S? If your connecting cable is less than 6 meters (20 feet), then you don't need any of these devices. You don't NEED a balanced connection.

  • Set your iPad to mono output
  • Use a cable like this.

    Use only one of the 1/4" (6.3 mm) output jacks.

    Set the iPad to mono output and connect to T4S channel 1, 2, 3 or 4.  This will give you the same result, and you don't have to make a custom cable.



ST 

 

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