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Bose S1 Pro

Designed for musicians, DJs and general PA use, the S1 Pro is the ultimate all-in-one PA, floor monitor and practice amplifier that's ready to be your go-anywhere Bluetooth music system for nearly any occasion. 

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Hi,

I have searched the forum and the Bose website, but cannot seem to find this information; please can anyone help?

I am looking for a graph/diagram or other info that would show a visible comparison between the frequency responses of the three onboard, switchable “Tonematch” eq’s (flat/guitar/mic) on the S1 Pro.

Is such a thing available, as I am sure this would be of help to other users too,...........any help or links greatly appreciated!

Cheers......Brian

 

 

 

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Hi Brian,

Check out this article: ToneMatch

theonemanband posted:

Hi,

I have searched the forum and the Bose website, but cannot seem to find this information; please can anyone help?

I am looking for a graph/diagram or other info that would show a visible comparison between the frequency responses of the three onboard, switchable “Tonematch” eq’s (flat/guitar/mic) on the S1 Pro.

Bose has not published the details. 

Here's what Cliff-at-Bose had to say about the Microphone Presets. I hope this gives you some more insight.

"The [microphone Presets] were developed to make CLOSE VOCALS (as in eat-the-mic) sound more natural through our system. When you back way off, say 6 inches or more, all bets are off. The same goes for even close miking of musical instruments."

"No mic that I know of sounds good for close vocal, even for recording for that matter. All our presets compensate for this. A lot of these mics sound a lot more natural when you back off a foot or so from them. Of course this is true in the studio too. No one does this for a live performance (backs very far off the mic) since you want to maximize gain before feedback by eating the mic. And so then you get funny sound and so then you need our presets to make it natural. "

Source: Cliff-at-Bose

Is such a thing available, as I am sure this would be of help to other users too,...........any help or links greatly appreciated!

Cheers......Brian

The Presets in the S1 Pro system were engineered to make vocal microphones and acoustic guitars sound great through the S1 Pro.  The information wouldn't be of much value outside the context of the S1 Pro.

ST

Cheers ST.  Firstly, let me say that I am delighted with my (now) 2 x S1’s that I use singularly for small/outdoor gigs, or together with my Sub-Bass as a full PA.

I luckily seem to have none of the issues that are occassionaly mentioned here on the forum, and the support here is second to none.....no question!

Having said that, I have to respectfully disagree with your comment above. A simple graph showing the EQ curves of the guitar/mic pre-set tonematch switch (we can presume the first position is flat)? would be EXTREMELY useful. I play both electric and acoustic guitars and have sometimes preferred the mic setting. Knowing exactly what frequencies are cut or boosted on either setting would help in the initial choice of which to use and after all, Bose’s statement that “they are engineered to make vocal/guitars sound great” is only THEIR opinion!

Thanks again for ALL your help and input on the forum!

Hi theonemanband,

Thanks for helping me understand what you're trying to do.  Since the ToneMatch® Preset EQ curves are proprietary, the details aren't available.

Coming back to why you want more detailed information, Bose has always said, "Use the names of the Presets as a guide or starting point."  In this case, there are just three settings to try. Let your ears be your guide.

Please understand, I'm not being glib here. For any guitar, I will start with the guitar preset and then try the other two to see if I like either of them better.  Where I land depends on the guitar. For example, for my electric jazz boxes, I usually prefer the Off position, but that can be a boomy in some rooms or if I'm too close to S1 Pro. Then I'll switch to the Guitar Preset.  Sometimes, the Mic Preset sounds better.

As an aside, I've never seen details about frequencies for a guitar. All the adjustments I make (tone, volume, pick or finger technique, pickup selection) I do in the moment, by ear. How about you?

ST

Absolutely.....I agree, I would always let my ears be the final judge but, I would have simply liked the option to make a mental note of the frequency curves of each, just as a shortcut to a starting point, so to speak. As I said, not essential, but useful.

Thank you for input ST., always appreciated!

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