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Bose S1 Pro

Designed for musicians, DJs and general PA use, the S1 Pro is the ultimate all-in-one PA, floor monitor and practice amplifier that's ready to be your go-anywhere Bluetooth music system for nearly any occasion. 

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I apologize if there was discussion about this already.  I just don't know how to search for archived topics on this matter.

I just have a quick question and I appreciate any help.

If I were to use a mixer to EQ or add effects to the vocal before feeding it to S1 Pro input, do I turn the Bass, Treble and Reverb knobs on S1 Pro to zero or do I leave them on at 12 o'clock position?

Thank you in advance for any inputs.  

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I leave the tone knobs at the detent (in the middle) -- no cut or boost.

Then after I walk the room to check the sound, I adjust them if necessary to give a better OVERALL EQ for the mix and the room.  Last night I had to boost the treble and cut the bass a little - that seems to be what I usually have to do with the S1s on stands.

In addition to what Chet recommends, if your mixer provides reverb, keep that off on the S1. If the mixer does not provide reverb, add it to your taste on the S1. I wouldn’t use reverb in both places. Pick one.

Furthermore, if your mixer provides stereo right+left main outs, consider panning all your instrument channels to one “side” and your vocals to the other side. Then connect one "side” from the mixer to one of the S1’s channels and the other “side” to the second channel. Set the Tonematch switch to mic or guitar (aka instruments) on appropriate channel and see what you think of the sound. Try all 3 ToneMatch settings (off, mic, guitar) and see what you think works best. Always use your ear as your guide. If you like the mic ToneMatch setting for instruments, use it. Typically, the ToneMatch works best with the correct mic to mic, guitar to instrument settings or just off.

The point here is to split the signal from the mixer into two groups (instruments vs vocals) so you can have the most flexibility in setting the final EQ on the S1.

 

Hi Duke,

duke posted:

I apologize if there was discussion about this already.  I just don't know how to search for archived topics on this matter.

I just have a quick question and I appreciate any help.

If I were to use a mixer to EQ or add effects to the vocal before feeding it to S1 Pro input, do I turn the Bass, Treble and Reverb knobs on S1 Pro to zero or do I leave them on at 12 o'clock position?

Thank you in advance for any inputs.  

We have an article with recommendations.

Mixer to S1 Pro

Please click the picture to read the full article.

If your sound sources are microphones and instruments see:

Mixer to Share ToneMatch Presets on the S1 Pro

Please click the picture to read the full article.

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Why would you pan vocals left and instruments right on a single S1? Why wouldn't you just send a single mono signal from the mixer to one of the S1 channels? I am considering an S1 for use as a monitor with a T8S. I typically run a monitor signal from one of the aux channels. With the T8S, should I send two Aux signals to the S1 channels in order to pan?  I'm not sure how to pan the Aux channels in T8S.

Hi Larry,

If you are using a stereo mixer without ToneMatch, by panning vocals all to the same side you can take advantage of the S1 Vocal ToneMatch preset. Should the other channels in the outboard mixer be guitars, those can be panned / routed to the other S1 channel utilizing the guitar Tonematch.

If there is a mixture of instruments it still might be preferable to pan opposite of the vocals, but chose to not use the preset for that channel.

Use of ToneMatch presets is a choice. If you like the sound fine, if not switch it off. 

Like others have said, it is best to start with all EQ set Flat, or knobs centered. Set levels, then utilize EQ controls on the outboard mixer. 

Effects? Same as EQ, chose which device you want to use, and turn effects off on the other.

By utilizing the Vocal ToneMatch you have effectively put a very sophisticated EQ curve in the signal chain that enhances vocal clarity in a way that can't be done with a simple two or three band Channel EQ.

O..

 

the pan doesn't affect a mono aux so it doesn't matter. The article suggests panning guitars one way and vox the other to make use of the S1's DSP 'tone match' switches. But they are a pretty blunt instrument IMHO and I would use a single input on the S1 and pan everything central.

Sam Spoons posted:

the pan doesn't affect a mono aux so it doesn't matter. The article suggests panning guitars one way and vox the other to make use of the S1's DSP 'tone match' switches. But they are a pretty blunt instrument IMHO and I would use a single input on the S1 and pan everything central.

Hi Sam Spoons,

Would you care to explain what you mean by "they are a pretty blunt instrument".

Let me clarify my post above. Larry is using a T8S Bose mixer. In his case he is most likely already using ToneMatch presets, so panning is not helpful for him in the same way it would be for someone using a non Bose mixer. The OP did not specify the maker of his mixer, thus the suggestion of panning to take advantage of the S1 presets. Consequently, my intent was to answer Larry's question while advising it was for mixers other than Bose ToneMatch.

Vocal ToneMatch presets are designed for vocal clarity and a natural vocal sound. The EQ curve of the preset is far more complex than can be obtained with normal channel EQ on even above average mixers. 

That being said, how we EQ our voice is personal and some may not like the natural clarity of their vocal when using the preset. In that case, don't use it. However, for others, it takes a lot of the guess work out of getting good sound. When utilized (panned) as suggested in this thread, the preset makes what could be a nightmare of combined controls of separate devices, a simple plug and play situation.

O.. 

edited for clarity

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