L1 Model II

Let's talk about the L1® Portable Line Array Systems

Using proprietary Bose® technology, L1 systems combine  PA and monitors into a single, highly portable unit. The  loudspeaker can be positioned behind or to the side —and you hear what the audience hears.

Highly portable PA and monitor combined for solo performers, DJs and general-purpose use. Fixed vertical control with 180° horizontal coverage Reduced vulnerability to feedback.

Three systems to choose from (Compact, Model 1S, Model II)
Two passive bass module options (B1 or B2)
Consistent coverage and tonal balance, portability and easy setup.

Love My New Compact!

So far it is one fine- better than I thought- critter. Handles the left hand walking bass plenty well enough from my keys which was my main concern. Acoustic guitar is great as well though I have to use the T1 for some EQ which works perfect. Nice clean punch with LR Baggs Element, Infinity Matrix, and K&K Mini.(Only used "Steel String with Cond" so far so can only get better)
I also lost control and nabbed a VoiceLive 2 as well. Man that thing is great and I am not even a singer.. until now maybe. (OM5 mic)

The gigs I do are usually mellow back ground piano and acoustic guitar and never went past half volume with my L1 Classic and one Bass mod in any situation (still have a second bass thingy in the box never opened for 4 yrs now).

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Originally posted by ST:

May I put them in the wiki in the L1® Compact page in the wiki

I'd drop them into the section that has the pictures comparing the Compact to the other L1®s. Just below Physical Comparisons to other L1® Products..

May I have your permission to do that?



That would be a yes....

Also if you need different angles or no green guys and the Vox too it can be done! (I left the Vox out of the other shots cause I was/am doing an acoustic shoot out for the Carbonguitar site.
Thanks Kramster,

Actually, I think the Vox in the first shot is great because it some folks may not have seen these other amps. I'll post a link when I have those photos in the wiki.

I moved out most of my standby acoustic amps when the Compact arrived. I guess I had been holding onto them for those occasional gigs where the Model II felt too big. The silly thing was - I kept those amps here but never used them. They just remained untouched since the Model II arrived.

Let's see - things I used to use when travelling light:

Trace Elliot TA100r
Trace Elliot Acoustic Cube (can't remember the model number - it was a cube about 8" x 8" x 8")
Gallien Krueger MB 150E
Gallien Krueger 250 ML

Now all of these are basically obsolete for me.

edit: remembered the name of the cube amp
My quick tests:
Acoustic Guitar.. excellent especially with the T1(Acoustic Guitar Cond mic preset). MY CA (Composite Acoustics) with the K&K Mini was the best I have heard it very "rich and smooth and present" as well as the Baggs Stage Pro (Element) on the same guitar. My CA 5i which is very bassy and feed backy with a Fishman Matrix is trickier... but running through a Fishman Spectrum DI and all is very good (great set up).
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WX5 Wind Controller into a VL70m (Patchman chip installed) and directly into the Compact is excellent. Can get some rich deeper than expected bass. Love it.
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Roland HandSonic straight in is excellent as well. Handled the bass drum and deeper sounds like the thunder very well .. not pow like an L1 and bass mod but still gets the point across. All other drum sounds where clear and as good as they can be in any of my set ups.
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A Spector Bass guitar (hey had to try) was plenty deep enough for a small jam or coffee shop situation. Doesn't pound your chest of course and low E is not all that, but is there.
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Vocals.. well I am not really a singer and don't on gigs, but playing with the VoiceLive2 using a OM5 mic and into T1 OM5 preset and wow... I fooled myself and thought I was a singer... very clean and so nice sounding.
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Gem pRP7 which is my main gigger and my biggest concern with lowest piano notes and a bass sound sometimes for the walkin' left hand bass. Works great, better than I thought (sorry for the hint of doubt I may have put out there). It is brighter upper mids and highs than I am used to but easy fix with the T1.
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Disclaimer: I just did all this testing in my living room on the first day I got it, not very loud at all and kinda fast so didn't even dig in too much of anything,,, sooo many settings and this and that I could try yet and no doubt will find better sound here and there. But for what I see/hear so far this lil light weight is no light weight at all with all it can do and sure it was designed this way for a reason. OK a few extras here and there would be cool but for now with the T1 this is turning into my dream set up. I have my first gig coming up in 2 weeks with it and have no worries at all that it can handle it. True it is a small charity event at a nice house and I will be playing outside to maybe 40 at a time as they wander around but it will work fine. Yes I'll take photos and maybe some video as well.

In a word...try it for sure! (I know 4 words)

My 2 cents give or take 5 bucks.
Hi, Kramster:

I also just got an L1 Compact this weekend and tried it with the RP/X Piano module ...

It sounded much like you describe: a bit brighter than the Model 1 I compared it with ... ESPECIALLY from the back side!! -- which I'm sure is mostly due to the wider dispersion of the Compact (I was using the extensions).

The bass was reasonably o.k. in the lower two octaves, but sounded more like a good console, not a big grand. Just to see what it would be like, I hooked up an "Extended Bass Package" to the Compact's Line Out (Packlite+two B1's) -- and I got most of that "depth" back. It's still not quite as "authoritative" as the Model 1 in the low end, but real fine.

I also confirmed this by selecting a "smooth bass" patch ... the Compact by itself definitely got thin below 65 HZ; adding the B1's back in kept the low-end rich for ~2/3 more of an octave.

I also tried the Compact alone with a bass guitar ... It tended to be a 'funkier' bass sound that I'd get with the Model 1. I'm not surprised (with either the piano or bass 'characteristics') at the low end -- it just points out that most bass sounds have quite rich harmonics ... and the Compact deals with those harmonics quite well, fooling our ears into thinking the fundamental is also strongly present.

Adding the "Extended Bass Package" essentially doubles the price (if you don't already have those pieces); however, in my limited experience so far, that is one way to turn the Compact into a "bass rig" -- and still lighter than a Model 1 or 2.

As a final "mini-report": In our church worship space (~25' x 40', lots of hard surfaces, 30' angled ceiling) the Compact could get as loud as I wanted to "fill" the room -- however, it was near it's maximum. In one sense, I couldn't get the Compact loud enough to cleanly "over-fill" the room (it wouldn't get "too loud").

The Model 1, on the other hand, is "loafing" when it fills the room, and will easily make that particular room be "too loud".
I played keyboard through the Compact WITH the Packlite+2B1's Monday night for a rehearsal ... it does tend to make the overall sound a little bass-heavy because the Packlite is a full-range amp -- and the line-out of the Compact is also full-range ... so the B1's are duplicating the sound from the Compact as much as they can (which is not as uniform over the full range, since they were designed to be used with the range-limited output of the original L1's).

When I get a chance I'm going to look for a small (preferably passive) crossover I could put between the Compact Line out and the Packlite ... preferably one with an adjustable crossover point.
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Originally posted by Dan Cornett:
I played keyboard through the Compact WITH the Packlite+2B1's Monday night for a rehearsal ... it does tend to make the overall sound a little bass-heavy because the Packlite is a full-range amp -- and the line-out of the Compact is also full-range ... so the B1's are duplicating the sound from the Compact as much as they can (which is not as uniform over the full range, since they were designed to be used with the range-limited output of the original L1's).

When I get a chance I'm going to look for a small (preferably passive) crossover I could put between the Compact Line out and the Packlite ... preferably one with an adjustable crossover point.


Hi Dan,
I am trying to do the same thing as you, to get more bottom end.
I've heard there are some mixers that have a bass sub output with adjustable crossover, as well as the main stereo outputs.
I wouldn't mind trying a mixer with that facility, along with two L1 compacts, packlite and two B1's.
Hi Tony,

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Originally posted by Tony:
What if you would use the compact with a Pack Lite and just 1 B1. I don't know much about the PackLite maybe it's not recommended that you only use 1 B!?


I'd like to follow up with you on this in your original thread:

Compact and Bottom End

Please follow the link - and I'll see you there.

Thanks!

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