seems a stupid question, especially since I could test this myself. But here goes.

What's the level of the signal that comes out the Line Out XLR jacks on channels 1 and 2? Does that level fluctuate as I adjust my channel or master volumes knobs on my remote? How about EQ -- is the signal that comes out processed by the presets? How about by my hi, mid, and lo controls on my remote?

Or is it the case that what comes out of the channel line out is just exactly what I put into it -- no presets, no EQ, no boost/cut, nothing?

We're going to use the systems in a hybrid setup, and the guys who take the signals for the FOH board want to know.

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Amado

The Line Outs are straight copies of the input. No presets, EQ, volume, etc.. The only control that affects the line out is the trim.
The other option is to use the insert/send, which is unbalanced and at a somewhat lower level. The send is actually affected by the channel volume on the remote (and the trim, off course) but nothing else (no preset, EQ, master volume).

Hope that helps

Hilmar
It does. Or, it should. I'll let you know.

What we're testing here is a typical sound company's resistance to a new approach. Let's see what it is. What unit of measure do you use to measure that, Ohms? Ughs? Arghs? Oomphs?

We'll see.

Yours,
Amado
How did it go?

I will be using my Bose for vocals only on Friday, and may have a line out going to the FOH mixer.

I am nervous about it because I don't know anything at all Smile and this will be the sound man's first time with a Bose...

I am, ironically, the more experienced partner in this venture. I would love some additional info.
Taren'

look under "what do you think of this approach"........"Line out questions and comments" I don't think that level is a critical issue, when you get what you want on stage the FOH guy shold be able to add only what is necessary, maybe nothing. The bigger question is the distance of the run between the PAS and FOH mixer. If that distance is more than 20 ft or so you may need a di to run the signal through.

Maybe someone who has actually done this will explain what is necessary, so you can be ready with the right patch cords.

If you intend to use more than one channel of the PAS you will need to use line outs on both 1 and 2 which would double your patch cord needs.

Oldghm
Taren,

Just to be safe, you may want to go to the Warick or N. Attleborough GC and get a DI box with a 20dB Pad with ground lift. Then, if you need it, you'll take the output of the line out, run it throught the DI, and into the mixer. Call the sound person, he/she may already have a few of these in hand.

The line out on the Power Stand can be quite hot for some equipment inputs so the 20dB pad attenuates the output, and the ground lift helps with ground loops (humming).

I hope that helps,
Steve
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Originally posted by Steve-at-Bose:
Taren,

Just to be safe, you may want to go to the Warick or N. Attleborough GC and get a DI box with a 20dB Pad with ground lift. Then, if you need it, you'll take the output of the line out, run it throught the DI, and into the mixer. Call the sound person, he/she may already have a few of these in hand.

The line out on the Power Stand can be quite hot for some equipment inputs so the 20dB pad attenuates the output, and the ground lift helps with ground loops (humming).

I hope that helps,
Steve


Yes, that is very helpful! You've spelled it out clearly for me, thank you.

I appreciate it!
I have a keyboard player friend that has done two gigs with his PAS in a "mixed" format. In both cases the sound man wanted to take the line out to feed to the main FOH, and in both instances the sound man got aggrevated at the hot feed and gave up.

Steve, I was just thinking - on a Mackie type mixer with stereo inputs (1/4" not xlr), wouldn't running the line out of the PAS to one of those line level/non preamp inputs work much better than running to the standard "hot" inputs?
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Originally posted by Hilmar-at-Bose:
Amado

quote:

The Line Outs are straight copies of the input. No presets, EQ, volume, etc.. The only control that affects the line out is the trim.
quote:


The other option is to use the insert/send, which is unbalanced and at a somewhat lower level. The send is actually affected by the channel volume on the remote (and the trim, off course) but nothing else (no preset, EQ, master volume).

Hope that helps

Hilmar

Please forgive me but I don't understand how the line outs get so hot. could someone please explain?

Oldghm
Thanks Steve, It's nice to know I don't have to worry about burning my fingers while hooking up to that PS1. Wink
When I attempted to answer Taren's question, I searched this forum over looking for this information, If it exists anywhere else I couldn't find it.
Is it wrong to assume that any piece of equipment that has inputs labled "Line In" will accept This level of line out?
It would be nice to get as difinitive answer as possible for future reference by future questioners?
I think its interesting to note, this thread started out with "level of line out on channels 1&2" and it only took 10 posts to get to where were at.
Thanks again, Oldghm
Steve, if you are going to be using a DI box to send the signal from the PAS direct outs to a FOH mixer, do you recommend an active or a passive DI?
I would think that a passive DI would be a better choice.
Be aware that to get a good quality DI you will be spending $80 - $100. A top quality DI goes for $130 - $200
Robert L
Robert,
I think that Steve recommends a DI box just for the fact that many have 20dB pad and ground lift features.

You could go without a DI box and just run balanced all the way to the FOH board. You may run into a problem if the front of house board does not accept a +4dBu signal. This is good to check. Also, many professional mixing consoles have input ground lift switches. It may be necessary to lift the ground on the XLR connection if buzz is present.

I hope that helps.

Kyle

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