L1 Model II

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Using proprietary Bose® technology, L1 systems combine  PA and monitors into a single, highly portable unit. The  loudspeaker can be positioned behind or to the side —and you hear what the audience hears.

Highly portable PA and monitor combined for solo performers, DJs and general-purpose use. Fixed vertical control with 180° horizontal coverage Reduced vulnerability to feedback.

Three systems to choose from (Compact, Model 1S, Model II)
Two passive bass module options (B1 or B2)
Consistent coverage and tonal balance, portability and easy setup.

Hi ...again. Am new to the Bose community but am so thrillled with my new S1pro that I guess you can say I am sipping the cool aid.
I am a bass player..professionally (*yes, I actually do make a living doing this!). I am looking to replace my "big rig" (Bag End Cabs, Hafler or Crest or pwr amps) with something newer and more portable (its at the point now I am all about small easy to move stuff...) and am considering a L1 system. So, I would be interested in hearing any comment s and suggestions from bassists who might be using L1s. Is the L1 series 2 better than series 1 for bass? B1 or B2?...the B2s seems to have positive feedback but are heavy? Multiple B1 moudules with packlight amp?
Portability and small onstage footprint are very high considerations as the club stages here in New Orelans are quite small. Speed of assmebly is also a major consideration. As is volume, but I really am not interested in pursuing the traditional room quaking kind of levels commonly associated with bass amplification. Tone trumps volume everytime. Dealing with low frenquencies most of my life has taught me quite a bit about the effects environment and omidierctional qualities of bass sounds have, as well a some corrabative facts as to the direct/reflective qualities to those sounds (which lights my interest in bose products).
It seems I have forever been dissappointed in bass amps...for all the usual reasons..big, heavy, too boomy on stage yet so easily swallowed up my loud gtrs. There are valid points to the traditional philosphy which points that the instrument and amp work in tandem as a single instrument (something which gtrists and their adored tube amps have adhered to forever) to make tone. And there is much praise for the sound of a P Bass into a SVT. Yet, my basses, a cpl of wonderful Rick Turner semi-acoustic...or "amplicoustic" as he calls them....sound so good by themselves (the mark of a finely made musical intrument) that I don't really want amplification that imposes its own signature on the sound. I really want an amp that can just get out of the way...while making everything louder. Typically, when using bass amps i run into the fx return therefore bypassing the preamp and just using the pwr section.
I have a hunch the L1 system may be able provide me with what I am seeking. Any thoughts? Suggestions? Real life experiences?

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Not being a bass player I’m hesitant to suggest much except that we’ve been using the L1 M2 with 2 B1 bass modules for our acoustic trio that includes an upright bass. It’s worked wonderfully for us since the Bose is so transparent in its sound it lets the acoustic character of the instruments through the system.

For just bass, I would recommend looking into the L1 coupled with a B2 bass module which will cover the bass frequencies nicely. It was a bit too much for our sound where we needed a balance between the bass, acoustic  guitars, mandolin, dulcimer etc. 

We used two Bose L1's with up to 3 B1 bass speakers for years for our church band (both model 1 and 2). The bass player was always direct in the Bose system with no extra amp involved. For our music format of soft rock / pop it worked out fine. Not as hard hitting as a club band would need but it got the job done for sure. 

That being said, would I use a L1 model 2 with B1 or B2 for a personal bass rig? Never tried it but it does sound interesting.

Side note: I just bought a pair of EV Evolve 50's for my DJ business, I'm wondering if one of those could work? The Evolve 50 is a easy carry / setup and it's single 12" bass speaker hit's a bit harder than the Bose L1 (Bose L1 115 SPL, Evolve 50 127 SPL). Never tried it as a dedicated bass amp, but it does really well as a DJ system

 

 

Hi Max,

Welcome to the Bose Portable PA Community. Thanks for starting this interesting conversation.

Pulling this in from your other discussion about getting your S1 Pro system (Congratulations!)

Max Valentino posted:

Hi everyone...new here.  I am a professional bassist recently relocated from California to New Orleans.  One of my intentions on moving here was to busk as a solo bassist.  I have done many, many gigs as a solo bassist (not an oxymoron...think of the bass equivalent of chord/melody gtr playing), 

One of my favourite performers is a solo bassist. If you two are doing the same thing, I get it - and I'm a fan. I don't get to see this fellow very often, but when I do, I accompany him (not the other way around), and musically speaking, it's a revelation and a joy.



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I have been intrigued by the S1 system since it was rolled out....and pulled the trigger and bought one a cpl weeks ago.  I not disappointed.  while a spkr/amp this size cannot be expected to produce sound levels that shake bones and make kittens explode, it does provide something which for my needs is of greater importance: tone.

Contrary to what I have read on the web...it does produce suitable low end, but more importantly it gives a clean, open uncolored sound which reveals the beauty and poignant qualities of my acoustic basses (my main instrmnts are two Rick Turner Renaissance basses)......and suitable volume for street performances.  Makes a fantastic home practice amp, too!

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S1 on the ground titled in upright position.  How'd it sound?  Unbelievable.  Glorious and full..chords rang out...melodies sparkled... loops were clear and not garbled..and bass lines were full and present (as were the ersatz drum sounds made by slapping the body of   the bass).

Listening to what you said above, I think you'd enjoy an L1 Model II with a B2 bass module. If your audiences are typically under 100, you might do fine with one or two B1 bass modules.

Max Valentino posted:

Hi ...again. Am new to the Bose community but am so thrillled with my new S1pro that I guess you can say I am sipping the cool aid.
I am a bass player..professionally (*yes, I actually do make a living doing this!). I am looking to replace my "big rig" (Bag End Cabs, Hafler or Crest or pwr amps) with something newer and more portable (its at the point now I am all about small easy to move stuff...) and am considering a L1 system.

So, I would be interested in hearing any comment s and suggestions from bassists

For perspective, I don't play bass. I sing, play guitar (acoustic and electric), solo, in duos, and bands, and have set up lots of stages in festival music situations. (Multiple acts across the stage in a short time).

One of the best things about performing with a bassist playing through an L1 is being able to hear all the nuance of what he (or she) is doing. There so much music in the overtones and mid-high frequencies that I don't hear from conventional bass amps. Even if the bass cabinet has a horn or tweeter, those are highly directional, and I don't hear them when I'm on the stage.  

With the L1 I can hear everything the bassist is putting into the music.

who might be using L1s. Is the L1 series 2 better than series 1 for bass?

The L1 Model II is better for things I value - clear, articulate, musical sound that you can hear even at the extreme left and right. The L1 Model II has options for bass expansion (e.g., Packlite amp to power more bass modules).

The L1 Model I is no longer available.  There is an L1 Model 1S that sounds almost identical to the L1 Model II. The difference is, it doesn't project as far, and there's no bass expansion. It can support up to two B1 bass modules or a single B2. With the L1 Model II, you'll appreciate the longer throw and flexibility to add more bass modules.

B1 or B2?...the B2s seems to have positive feedback but are heavy? Multiple B1 moudules with packlight amp?

I like the B1s because they are easy to move around, and you can take one or two depending on the situation. I find them to be more articulate than the B2, but that's coming from a singer/guitarist.

I like the B2 because it has a three-way switch that gives you 

  • Output similar to a single B1
  • Output similar to two B1s
  • Output similar to four B1s

Sound per pound - the B2 beats a couple of B1s.

How large are your audiences when you're playing indoors?

Portability and small onstage footprint are very high considerations as the club stages here in New Orelans are quite small. Speed of assmebly is also a major consideration. As is volume, but I really am not interested in pursuing the traditional room quaking kind of levels commonly associated with bass amplification. Tone trumps volume everytime. Dealing with low frenquencies most of my life has taught me quite a bit about the effects environment and omidierctional qualities of bass sounds have, as well a some corrabative facts as to the direct/reflective qualities to those sounds (which lights my interest in bose products).

From what you've written above, you'll like the L1 Model II.


It seems I have forever been dissappointed in bass amps...for all the usual reasons..big, heavy, too boomy on stage yet so easily swallowed up my loud gtrs. There are valid points to the traditional philosphy which points that the instrument and amp work in tandem as a single instrument (something which gtrists and their adored tube amps have adhered to forever) to make tone. And there is much praise for the sound of a P Bass into a SVT. Yet, my basses, a cpl of wonderful Rick Turner semi-acoustic...or "amplicoustic" as he calls them....sound so good by themselves (the mark of a finely made musical intrument) that I don't really want amplification that imposes its own signature on the sound. I really want an amp that can just get out of the way...while making everything louder. Typically, when using bass amps i run into the fx return therefore bypassing the preamp and just using the pwr section.
I have a hunch the L1 system may be able provide me with what I am seeking. Any thoughts? Suggestions? Real life experiences?

Are you near a place where you can try an L1 Model II? The big decision will be choosing the bass module(s). 

ST

I am an electric bass player and I have used my L1 Model II as a dedicated bass amp and I liked it. I use a B2 Bass Module with switch set to the "Normal" position. I find it very important to use the ToneMatch presets for Bass. I recommend trying presets that may not be labeled for your specific brand or model - you may find one that you prefer over the named preset.

I also use a little bit of light compression on the bass guitar channel to enhance the attack. 

FWIW, I have also used a Line 6 Bass Amp modeler and was very happy with the results. 

 

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