We just started using a Cajon in on church worship team band. We mic'd it with Beyer M180 ribbon mic. We used the L1 preset Kick Drum w/Sennheiser 601. The tone was good, but we had trouble with feedback. Anyone had experience with a Cajon? Any suggestions for mics or presets?
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There is a guy named David Enke in La Veta, Co. who installs pickups on various instruments.
His company is called Pickup the World...cool, eh?

While at his home a couple years back I played an electrified Cajon, it sounded awesome.
He might be able to help you out.
Would be much superior to a mic in my opinion.
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Originally posted by ST:
Hi NewDay,

Could you describe the feedback?

Also - have you tried the KickGate



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The feedback is a low frequency hum. And occurs when the mic is at a certain position inside the sound hole on the Cajon.
We do have a ToneMatch so we will try the KickGate setting. Thanks for the info.
Hi NewDay

This sounds like you are getting feedback at the resonant frequency for the Cajon.


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Originally posted by NewDay:
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The feedback is a low frequency hum. And occurs when the mic is at a certain position inside the sound hole on the Cajon.
We do have a ToneMatch so we will try the KickGate setting. Thanks for the info.



I'm not sure the KickGate will help - it might.

The other thing to consider is using the ParaEQ.

See: Solving problems with the T1® ParaEQ



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Hey NewDay,

I got a hold of David at Pick-up The World, and we had a fun email exchange, what a great guy.
Humorous, helpful, and passionate about what he does.
I have a pickup coming.

Anytime you can use a pick up instead of a mic with an L1 you are miles ahead, it's just plug and play easy.

Of course, fiddling with the T1 is a lot of fun too, so by all means do that too.

P
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Originally posted by SambaSauce:
Drumr, did you get the pickup for your djembe? How is it?

Yes I did get the pickup, but have not installed it yet.
I am hesitating to drill holes in any or my drums, and need to decide which one to amplify.
Will probably go with the least sonically impressive drum.

{quote] The cajon pick up you tried -- did it have strong bass and "snare" response?[/QUOTE]
It sounded like a good quality cajon, only louder.
The pickup didn't exaggerate any particular frequencies.
Although not a big fan of cajons, his amplified one sounded great.
Personally, I don't think they replace a drumset very well, I prefer a djembe.
DrumrPete posted:

Personally, I don't think they replace a drumset very well, I prefer a djembe.

I can't believe I said that!  It's 2018 now, and I have gone strictly cajon for all my "acoustic" gigs...which are few these days, mostly church.

The cajon is a WAY better instrument for emulating kick and snare "beats", and to a degree, "sounds".  The djembes and ashikos are much louder, and make things sound latin.  The cajon can get a one-handed "rim-shot" type tone, that takes two hands on a djembe.  I really didn't think that post in 2010 all the way thru.

In 2015, I bought a drum kit at Guitar Center, and got an instant rebate that covered cost of a Meinle cajon, that mostly just sat around the house.  Last year I got a call to play in church, and wound up using it, due to it's volume and basic tones fitting the contemporary music better.

Apologies from my old self.

 

That said:

As for mic'ing my new Schlagewerk Cajon, I had been using an Audix D6 poking into the sound hole in back, and a Beta 57, on a short boom, in front.  I struggle with feedback from my L1 Model II, when it's close to me, and have to keep the volume reasonable. 

The low end from the Audix, using the D6 preset, and the kick gate, is phenomenal.  The 57's tone, with either the 57 preset, or general overhead percussion is good +, but the feedback is the issue. 

When I get the 57 sounding it's best, I bump it with my hands, as it's too close.  When I move it away, the volume drops too much.

I have always had my Model II within 3-4' behind and beside me.  I probably need to get further away.  Have been planning to do that next gig.

I more recently bought a Mugig Cajon Mic System on Amazon for $60.  It's a very simple battery powered interface that mounts in the sound hole, with a cheapo mic, that mounts under the seat.  Drop dead easy to install and use.  Has Volume & Tone controls. 

The sound is not near as good as the two mic system, has less bass, and a hollow mid sound (due to proximity to the L1), but it can get louder before feedback.  Super easy to use, not much dinking around at the gig, and it's passable.  I think that I might start rolling it's Tone control to full treble, and use the D6 for the bass.

I have been able to use the D6 preset WITH the kick gate engaged with the Mugig, and it doesn't miss beats.

Just some ideas.

 

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