Is this the right system for me?

Looking to get away from hauling so much stuff! I am in a couple of working rock/country/variety bands and was looking at the L1 Model2 with the B2. Likely getting two of these. 

I could run this either through my mackie mixing board, or through the t1 (haven't decided whats best practice yet). Shredder type guitar player mic's his boogie  marc V 25 , bass player mics his bass though markbass, fantom g8 keyboard, 3 vocal mics (smbeta58a), and usually just mic'ing the kick on the drum. 

Is this out of ordinary? The spec's say this would work for a room of about 500 people, but realistically how far is the throw? I also know this depends on the room, acoustics, how many people, etc. but I suppose Im looking for just a general answer to this/

I see a lot of acoustical type acts using these but I don't really see anyone from a rock perspective. I realize this kind of system is not going to fill up a festival tent like a traditional PA would in regards to throw, but hoping to use it in the capacity to get rid of my monitors, and keep mix well, while rocking out the dance floor in mid range venues. 

I go to the local music place (big name music store type) and they just kind of shrug their shoulders and give me a funny look when I ask these questions. Any input is appreciated!

 

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Hi,

I've been using Bose L1 systems for a rock band for the last 10 years. Started with 1 x L1/Classic & 1 x L1/M1. Currently using 2 x L1/M2 towers. Normally 1 B1 per side, but occasionally a B2 on one side and 2xB1s on the other. 2 Guitars using Fractal rigs direct to house, Bass DI to house, mic'd drum kit, 4 vocals, some keyboards. Also, guitar/bass cabs onstage in addition to house feeds. We do not use the towers behind us. They are used mainly out front as standard L/R PA speakers, and we use a QSC TM16 Digital mixer onstage. Also two rear facing active 1x12/horn monitors for front 3 guys, 1 Bose Compact for drum monitor. We've tried the towers behind us on various gigs where space permitted and it was always too loud onstage, especially for long rooms. Most clubs are too small for us to use this way. Sometimes if we're pinned against a wall, we forgo the front monitors and angle in each tower to serve as monitors. We don't usually do gigs as large as 500, but we've handled 2-300 pretty effectively.

Again, room size & dispersion is a factor. We do get pretty loud sometimes, but I rarely have the tower Vol's over 12:30. I do have a T1 also, but never use it for this band. Too limited in channels. I bring it mostly as a spare. The towers have a pretty good depth & width range. Because I mix from stage, I often keep the front monitor low and try to mix using the overall room sound from one of the towers (we run L/R out from mixer to towers, but there's no panning going on.

We play everything from Alice Cooper to Kansas to Steely Dan & ZZ Top & Santana, so we cover a lot of styles. So far, I've been pretty satisfied with the results. The low end doesn't have the balls of a 15" or 18" sub system, but the two B2's should help provide a good overall mix. Hope this helps.

Brad

 

Hi Roger,

For my 4 piece Rock band (www.gearjunkiesband.com), the L1/M1 stack on each side is the only FOH, but most of the gigs are Club size (50-100). No other feeds. I do have 2 F1/F1 Sub stacks as well for larger venues. We have played larger halls, auditoriums with just the L1 systems out front, as well as smaller outdoor shows. Now and then, I'll use one F1 stack on one side and one L1 stack on the other if it's an odd shaped room with a long throw on one side. I have also used 2 x F1 stacks (one per side), facing out and feed an L1 tower facing out at a 45 or 90 degree angle on each side from the F1 for wide coverage such as a Town Green where people are in front and out at the sides. This offers nice sound and really spreads it out. I also use the L1 and/or F1 stacks as a FOH if I am running sound for other bands from the House.

Brad

 

Thanks guys, this is extremely helpful. I think if the low end is not punch enough Ill just add one of my existing subs; and may also add a compact for our monitor if I run into issues running the 2 model 2's behind the band. Sounds like if we are going to be loud and proud it may behoove me to keep them out front or closer to the front.

Appreciate all the input!

On some mixers, you have a dedicated Sub output. On my QSC TM16, I can  use an Aux with a low pass filter to send low freq to a sub in lieu of a dedicated out. Be aware that the L1/M2 is meant to be used with a Sub. If you disconnect the B1 or B2 and just use the tower, it sounds pretty bad. So you'd have to leave a sub connected to the tower and supplement that with additional subs.

 

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