Originally posted by Litesnsirens:
Hi ST, yes I watched that video yesterday. And I can certainly imagine that the 1s and the modell 2 sound very similar. But they are report to cover a different range of audience size. It might be difficult for someone to decide if "up to 300 people" would work as opposed to "up to 500 people", if you know what I mean.
300 vs 500 in who's opinion? I know it's Bose's opinion but range and volume comfort can be somewhat subjective as is the room and the type of audience those 300-500 people are in.
Here is something from the Model 1S FAQs
Question: Where can the L1® Model 1S system be used?
The L1® Model 1S system is suitable for audiences up to 300 people.
Typically, this translates to maximum listener distances of about 75 feet
(22.86 meters). Thus the system will fill auditoriums, houses of worship,
gymnasiums, ballrooms, dance clubs, coffeehouses and more.
If you are comparing the two based on audience size or system power, I don't think it's as tangible as say a bass player pluggin into the system, turning it up, maybe A/B'ing with his current rig and being able to say "ya that's about how loud I get in any particular club that I play" then deciding if there's still enough under the hood in case he/she needs it. We all want to feel safe that there's something left and no one wants to have to drive their system full out just to keep up.
Remember ST, we've been using the systems for a while now. You significantly longer than me, but even I have a decent understanding of how the systems work. Try to explain that to someone thinking about coming over from conventional amplification systems. It takes awhile to sink in or for them to get it. They may need a more tactile experience to be able to make a decision.
I don't disagree with you ... like the song: There ain't nothin' like the real thing
for a demo. But for all the people who have run through my gear and subsequently gone on to make decisions about gear, (Bose and other), I don't think any of them made the decision based solely on their casual experience of doing a guest set on my stage, or hearing my rig at a gig.
I really like my (Bose) gear and I'm happy to talk with people about it, and if it makes sense in the moment, to let them try it out. And I have felt for eight years that if you travel with something radically different, you become a showcase if not a spokesperson for it. It's funny how we ride a see-saw of credibility with our gear. If at first we are not seen to be credible, but the gear is, then we gain by the halo effect. And that works in the other direction too.
But my point is, I'm out to play the gig not to sell the rig
. If there's an opportunity to help someone in their thinking about all of this, and if it doesn't interfere with the gig, then sure, I'm all for it. And I hope that people will be able to imagine themselves running L1® gear, and that this imagining gets them to the point where they do their own further investigation. But I think that showing people the flagship is just as valuable as showing them some emulation of the Model 1S. If it catches their interest, then it's up to them to take it to the next level.
Is being able to use a blank bottom going to really make that big of a difference in the real world be it low ceilings or variations of the systems at our disposal? Hard to say, maybe not, those are just two scenarios that I could think of off hand. I play one club fairly regularly with lower ceilings and 4.5 inches would allow us more flexibility in terms of placement. We can set up both model 2s but we have to stick one out to the side and right beside a table. To the point where if the person in the chair at one end of the table isn't careful getting out of their seat they could hit the L1 with their chair. Another room downtown we use the house system because although the ceiling would be high enough from the floor it's not from the stage. The stage is about 18" but the ceiling is lower over the stage as well, it's kind of a cove. As anyone who's been spoiled by Bose knows, going back to conventional house PA is no fun at all.
Like you, I have encountered very odd set ups with stages too high for the room (and too little clearance for the L1®) and I have had to put the L1®s on the floor, or move the band to the floor and put tables on the stage, and even remove awkward stages to make the gig work. But I just don't see me buying hollow extensions just in case I can't find another way to make things work.