L1 Model II

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Using proprietary Bose® technology, L1 systems combine  PA and monitors into a single, highly portable unit. The  loudspeaker can be positioned behind or to the side —and you hear what the audience hears.

Highly portable PA and monitor combined for solo performers, DJs and general-purpose use. Fixed vertical control with 180° horizontal coverage Reduced vulnerability to feedback.

Three systems to choose from (Compact, Model 1S, Model II)
Two passive bass module options (B1 or B2)
Consistent coverage and tonal balance, portability and easy setup.

compact or 1s B1

Hi I need some advice and comments.

I play and sing as a solo act, I run a MIDI sequencer into a Roland Integra7 and JV880 and I play guitar into a guitar amp.

I play the tracks into a Mackie 1402 and output that into a stereo Caudio 1200 Watt amp driving a pair of Celestion SR1 8 Ohm each. I do have another pair of SR1s depending on the size of venue just to give me a bit more headroom.

I am looking to replace the PA but keep my mixer so I am looking at the Bose kit. My conclusion so far is that maybe a pair of compacts might work for me along with another subwoofer perhaps for larger venues or should I just opt for a pair of L1 1S with B1 units.

So I'm looking for  people with experience of the Bose kit out there to comment please.

 

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I'm a solo act who also combines backing tracks with live acoustic guitar and vocals. I borrowed an L1 Model 1 with the larger subwoofer and Tonematch audio engine for a couple of years and really got spoiled. When my friend needed it back I brought the model ll (double the speakers in the tower) and the smaller subwoofer (much lighter and still gives me more bass than I need). The Tonematch audio engine is a must for me. It is literally everything you need and more . The effects, mic and guitar models are fantastic. Couldn't be happier. 

 

If you need stereo or a tower on each side of you then two compacts should do the trick. If your mixer has an aux send, you could use that to feed the extra sub if you end up going that route, that way you can put more of that in the mix and not have to drive the Bose so hard. 

That being said, my recommendation would be to bump up to the L1 Model 1S or a MII with a B2. The flexibility you get with that setup is superior and you'll have just one tower to hook up, not to mention that you would most likely not need an additional sub. The best possible situation would be the Model II which would allow you to add a second B2 sub, but you'll need an A1 "Packlite: amp to power it. This is the most modular and flexible setup option of the three I mentioned (two compacts, one Model 1S, Model II)

Good luck!

I almost hate to do this but have you tried out the JBL EON ONE (same cost as a compact)?

I have a Bose L1 M2 with 2 B1 subs and a pair of Bose S1s (that I love) but my go to system for larger gigs is the EON ONE (or 2 of them). 

Last weekend my band used 2 of them with a QSC Touchmix16 for a gig at a restaurant with well over 150 seats and got LOTS of compliments on our sound when we were done...

Thanks for all your comments much appreciated and interesting. I own domestic Bose kit and very happy with the products although it is expensive stuff hence why I’m looking at Bose for my rig. I will look at the JBL suggestion. I also think an L1 1S might be a better option too but may not be able to stretch to a mk2 although looking at UK suppliers prices seem to be drifting down on a weekly basis at the moment.

Another note is I can’t see me benefiting with a tone match unit not yet anyway.

The main problem with anything JBL is the reliability and service of their products which is complete **** on both points. Honestly you couldn't PAY me to own their stuff!

If you're going to consider non-Bose gear the only one I recommend is the EV Evolve 50 which absolutely STOMPS the JBL in sound and reliability. I did an A/B with the Evolve 50 and my L1 MII. Check it out on youtube!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiUzbyg1DCU

 

I love how there is more competition now.  The Evolve is really nice and a direct comparison to the MII but much easier to set up and has a lot of cool features built in.   Having more products to chose from is a good thing, and I don't think BOSE is not taking note.  I hope a new model III comes out and destroys the competition.

I had a minor (mechanical) problem with my EON One that JBL support went out of their way to make good - once I found the right email/phone number.  I've used mine for at 50+ gigs over the last couple of years and it has performed flawlessly.

The Evolve looks pretty nice although it's $500 more, weighs 30 pounds more and won't fit in my vehicle...

I agree with jaswrx that having choices is great!

Hi pzaz,

pzaz posted:

Hi I need some advice and comments.

I play and sing as a solo act, I run a MIDI sequencer into a Roland Integra7 and JV880 and I play guitar into a guitar amp.

Thanks for all the great information.



I play the tracks into a Mackie 1402 and output that into a stereo Caudio 1200 Watt amp driving a pair of Celestion SR1 8 Ohm each. I do have another pair of SR1s depending on the size of venue just to give me a bit more headroom.

How important is it for you to run the backing tracks in stereo. In the venues where you perform, is most of the audience stationary in the stereo sweet spot?



I am looking to replace the PA but keep my mixer so I am looking at the Bose kit. My conclusion so far is that maybe a pair of compacts might work for me along with another subwoofer perhaps for larger venues or should I just opt for a pair of L1 1S with B1 units.

How big are the venues where you perform? What are people doing while you are performing (listening attentively, partying, tearing down the house?



pzaz posted:

Another thought.....If I opted for two L1 1S with B2 and tone match, can I use the same tonematch for both? ``````it seems odd to have a tonematch for each one.

Get a T4S or T8S, and you can use one for two L1 Model 1S systems.

Please tell us a little more about your shows so we can talk about whether you need one system or two.

Thanks,

ST

Hi

I play a mix of small to large pubs and social clubs. In pubs the punters would be at the same floor level as me and near no closer than a couple of metres away. In clubs there is normally a stage, some clubs can be large and say about 250 people. I play pop and rock music. I run in stereo so the instruments in the Integra 7 are panned.

Chet 3 posted:

@jdbassentertainmentcom - proving that live sound is entirely subjective... ;-)

True, but in this world with gear/brands coming and going... you can't deny that Bose is a pretty safe bet in regards to what you are getting for your money... in terms of performance and reliability. Lets not forget that once you own Bose gear you get their amazing customer service/tech support! They really do care and help their customers in every way they can to be successful... 

We have a lot of Bose gear and even though it has not cheap to purchase the results have been great! 

Go Bose Go!

I like the stereo field that’s produced by the drums and panning trumpets and string sections left and right it give the sound another dimension so I feel it’s important as an overall effect. It varies some people are dancing and sitting there listening too. Like I say some venues are small pubs, difficult to put a size to them and some venues are club size if that makes any sense.

im more and more leaning to 2 l1 1S with 2 B2 units and just for the sake of it a T4S, it might be useful. I do like playing acoustic stuff with a basic backing so I could use it for that.

p

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