L1 Model II

Let's talk about the L1® Portable Line Array Systems

Using proprietary Bose® technology, L1 systems combine  PA and monitors into a single, highly portable unit. The  loudspeaker can be positioned behind or to the side —and you hear what the audience hears.

Highly portable PA and monitor combined for solo performers, DJs and general-purpose use. Fixed vertical control with 180° horizontal coverage Reduced vulnerability to feedback.

Three systems to choose from (Compact, Model 1S, Model II)
Two passive bass module options (B1 or B2)
Consistent coverage and tonal balance, portability and easy setup.

Compact is here!

I've been playing with one since yesterday afternoon.

I am very very impressed.

Initial impressions - this sounds a lot like my Model II.

Out of the Box
I can certainly imagine running with the two channels with a dynamic microphone (I've tried my Beyerdynamic M88) and my Larrivée with L.R. Baggs iMix NoCut, or my Morgan with Fishman Under Saddle Transducer with PickUpTheWorld Quackbuster or my Larrivée Classical with Fishman Under Saddle Transducer. That is - all the acoustic guitars I've tried sound fine. That is - even without the T1®.

This would also make a great amp for an electric jazz guitar. I've tried several (no Preset) and it's wonderful.

Side-by-Side the Model II
In a space up to say as small coffee shop (800-1000 square feet) I would be just as likely to take the Compact as the Model II. I am working in a space a little bigger than this, and if competing with a noisy crowd or coffee grinders, I'd probably prefer to have the Model II.

I was telling someone last night - for an acoustic duo for concerts up to 100, I would probably prefer two Compacts over sharing a Model II with a T1®.

Sure you can to do more with a Model II and T1® but within the realm of the smallish venue, I think Compact will be just terrific.

Within say 25' you have to push the Model II hard to get it to seem louder than the Compact. I was surprised at this. As you get farther away, the Model II seems to maintain its volume better. This is no surprise.

When I push the Compact it does seem to clip or compress, but you have to be running LOUD to make this happen.

PorchBoard
This is important to me. The PorchBoard works. It's not as deep a thump, but it would be fine in a small acoustic concert setting. Interestingly, this is when I use the PorchBoard most. Anything bigger and I am probably working with a rhythm section.

The connection: Channel 2 - Guitar in ¼ inch jack and PorchBoard in one side of the RCA inputs.

Questions?
I'm going to try a few other things, (e.g. Electric Guitar with pedals, Condenser microphone with external phantom power)

Anything else I can try for you?

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Original Post
quote:
- this sounds a lot like my Model II.


Can you say anything about what makes the sound any different than the Model II, since you have said it "sounds like", not "sounds the same", given things are as equal as can be in terms of tone, volume controls, etc.?
T1®

As expected, the T1® works fine with the Compact. The experience in the near field (what you'd hear on stage) is very similar (Compact compared to Model II).

For anybody who wants to do some side-by-side testing with a Model II, try connecting the Analog Master output to the Compact Channel 2 (turn off Preset).

By default - you'll have sound coming from both the Compact and the Model II.

To kill the sound out of the Model II, got to

Prefs:
- Master Out
-- Pre Master Volume

Turn down the Master Volume knob.
This will allow you to hear the T1® to Compact connection without hearing the Model II.

This not something I'd be doing at a gig, but it is one of the ways that I was comparing the two units.

You could also use the T1®Master Analog output to an A/B switch (A - to Compact, B - to Model II).

So I'm still thinking about when I would use the T1® and when I wouldn't.

Since I already have all the cables for the T1® strapped to my microphone stand, it would be very little more trouble to use the T1® than to go without. But the sheer simplicity of using the Compact alone is beguiling.
Sounds like the Model II
Hi John,


quote:
Originally posted by JohnNell:
quote:
- this sounds a lot like my Model II.


Can you say anything about what makes the sound any different than the Model II, since you have said it "sounds like", not "sounds the same", given things are as equal as can be in terms of tone, volume controls, etc.?


Erring on the side of caution, I didn't want to say "exactly the same".

There are differences when you are close up. For example: If I am seated directly in front of the Compact (fully extended), I don't hear the highs as well as I do with the Model II. To be clear, I'm talking about being seated close enough to reach over my head and touch the column. That sounds extreme - and it is. But this is also exactly how close I have been to the Model II on several tiny stages.

This could also be an issue - it was in fact - when I was reaching down to adjust the tone controls for the Compact Channel 1, Vocal Microphone - I bent down and there were no highs.

I'm also finding that I have to run the Compact at what feels like a louder volume to fill up the room I'm in - about 1500 square feet.

That's just an impression - I haven't run around with a Sound Pressure Level meter.

Also - look up - you'll see that I DO hear a difference with the PorchBoard. But this makes sense. The fundamental for the PorchBoard is around 30 Hz. The B1 goes down to 40 Hz, the Compact Power Stand goes down to around 65 Hz.
Hi Col. Andy,

quote:
Originally posted by Col. Andy:
Hi St. I wondered if you had tried your T1 with the compact to dial in a better "thump" from your porchboard.

Respect,
Col. Andy


Tried it. Didn't make much difference. I think I was clipping the Compact by that point so EQ or gain adjustments with the T1® wasn't going to help.

Putting this all in perspective; at this volume where this is really an issue for me, I've probably playing with a rhythm section and I wouldn't need the PorchBoard anyway.
Horizontal Dispersion

Exactly as advertised. This thing sounds great off axis. That is - way off to the sides, you still get all the upper range. This will be great for monitoring in ensembles on shallow stages.

This is just about my only issue with the Classic/Model I. On a shallow stage, I cannot hear my band mates (running Classics) as clearly as they can hear me (running my Model II). I know this because we've swapped rigs just for testing.

From what I can hear walking around it, the Compact is going to be terrific in this respect.
With a PackLite®

I tried using the Compact Line-out to a PackLite®. I won't be doing that live at least not without a a crossover.

The Compact Line-Out is full-range. So I was hearing too much low end (Guitar and Vocal) when all I really wanted was more in the sub 100 Hz range.

Trying this reminded me of how cleverly Bose engineered the Bass sub system (1 B1, 2 x B1, Bass Line Out, PackLite) in the other models.


Please understand, it's not that the Compact is lacking in bass. This was just an experiment.

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
quote:
Hi St. I wondered if you had tried your T1 with the compact to dial in a better "thump" from your porchboard.

Hi Andy...ST's answer is about what I expected.
I often try to dial in other frequencies when using the Porchboard, but nothing seems to change it's basic tone.

ST...would you say, seeing my Fish Fry video on YouTube, that the C would provide enough thump for my needs?
That is just too cool ST.


When I do the Jazz and Beatle festivals in Orillia there is no stage. You can't put the L1's behind you because some of the audience is behind you. We usually set the drums up in the middle and use two L1s run stereo in order to get everything from one side to the other. I’m thinking in this case the L1c would be the perfect monitor for me. Louis could use it for his restaurant gigs were the footprint of the L1 classic is too big and he has had to resort to using a piano amp.

I'm sure the L1c would work for Louie's needs but do you think the L1c would work in my scenario? Would it work better at half stack as a monitor for a drummer sitting down and his ears are 48" from the ground?
Condenser Microphone / External Phantom Power

Summary:
Condenser microphone plus external phantom power battery pack - It works fine.

That is: I used an external battery pack and tried several phantom powered condenser microphones. They all sounded fine, although perhaps not as good as they do through the T1®.


After doing some testing, I think that when using the Compact, I'll just stick to a dynamic microphone just because it sounds great and it is the height of simplicity (or use the T1®).


More thoughts:

I doubt there is anyone here that enjoys his/her Neumann KMS 105 more than I enjoy mine. I was disappointed when I read that there only one Vocal Microphone Preset and that there was no phantom power. So, no support for my favourite microphone. But after listening to the Compact with my Beyerdynamic M88 (a dynamic, hypercardioid microphone), I think I'll be fine using the dynamic microphone with the Compact.
Smiling...

NOW you guys can really start to see why I was so excited last year when I got my SA...

I'm absolutely NOT trying to incite direct A-B comparisons or even discussion, just saying...

Very best - this will be quite enjoyable for you...

MIKE

PS - so... WHO got Serial Number 00000001? :-)
Hi Mike,

I don't have a SoloAmp here, and I'm quite leery of making comparisons about sound when I can't do direct A/B testing. I do know that you are happy with what you've got though, and I am glad for you.



quote:
Originally posted by Mike in Texas:
Smiling...

NOW you guys can really start to see why I was so excited last year when I got my SA...

I'm absolutely NOT trying to incite direct A-B comparisons or even discussion, just saying...

Very best - this will be quite enjoyable for you...

MIKE



Going way back to some of our conversations about this Mike, one of absolute drop-dead deal breaker issues was that anything thing I might use as my 'small rig' has to sound like my 'big rig'.

The Compact meets that criteria and I am delighted.
Hi ST,

Well, if you're delighted then it MUST be good.

I anticipate an entire new focus on the L1 series by "the industry" now that the Compact has arrived. This means almost everyone who appreciates good professional sound can afford to enter the world of Bose. Price now has been totally removed from a potential buyer's objection list.

Perhaps you could venture a response to this question: If the Model II with a T1 and two B1's equals a performance level of 100%, how would you rank the Compact and T1 combo? I am assuming from your comments thus far that the number will be greater than 50%.

The more I think about this, the more difficult it may be to answer. But do your best.
Half-Stack
The people at Bose have consistently encouraged us to use the Compact on a table in the collapsed position, or on the floor in fully extended position.

So I had to explore this.

First, the Compact, fully extended is 78 1/2" tall or about 5 1/2" shorter than the Model II (84") or 4 1/4" shorter than the Model I (82 3/4"). This extra clearance should help all of us who have run into a ceiling that was just an inch or two too short.


Now if use the Compact collapsed on a table (30" high), then the speaker portion is about 30-46" off the floor.

If you operate with just one extension, it's about the same; 32-48" off the floor.

Okay - let's talk applications. In most applications where I do public speaking - if there is a table present, my audience is probably seated so the Compact on a table is going to be close to ear height. So that make sense.

But if people are standing (or dancing) I would most certainly run fully extended with both extensions.
Hi Starvin


quote:
Originally posted by starvin007:
That is just too cool ST.


When I do the Jazz and Beatle festivals in Orillia there is no stage. You can't put the L1's behind you because some of the audience is behind you. We usually set the drums up in the middle and use two L1s run stereo in order to get everything from one side to the other. I’m thinking in this case the L1c would be the perfect monitor for me. Louis could use it for his restaurant gigs were the footprint of the L1 classic is too big and he has had to resort to using a piano amp.

I'm sure the Compact would work for Louie's needs but do you think the Compact would work in my scenario? Would it work better at half stack as a monitor for a drummer sitting down and his ears are 48" from the ground?


In pictures that you have posted, I recall seeing that your ears were at about the break in the Cylindrical Radiator® of your Classic.

I measured and that's about 44" off the floor.

The active speaker at half-mast is from 32-48" so you'll be getting the full brunt of that - maybe more than you'd want. If you are more than a few feet away, you might be better off running fully extended and let the sound spread out into the room too.

I think this could work really well as a monitor. The side-to-side dispersion is great too. Much more like the Model II than the Model I/Classic.

I wonder if you will have an issue with your KSM9 (?) overhead microphone, but it'll probably be fine.


For your short ceiling problem (on the boat) I guess the question is, can you work with something 78 1/2" tall?
Hey Starvin,

Now we're down to the last half inch. I think you're just going to have to try it.


quote:
Originally posted by starvin007:
In this case the ceiling was almost 5" too short for my L1 classic.That would give me 1/2 an inch clearance with the L1c fully extended. Do I have that right?
OK, One last question. Do you have a Keyboard in your arsenal that you could try? Something with a solid Grand piano sample?

Louis our Keyboard player has been dreaming about something like this since he bought his L1. A few of his restaurant engagements don't have enough room for his L1 they wouldn't even accommodate the Fishman's footprint. This sounds like the perfect answer to his dilemma.
Hi Garry,

quote:
Originally posted by Bose Guy in Calgary:
Hi ST,

Well, if you're delighted then it MUST be good.

I AM delighted but there are a few things that bear mentioning and I'll do that in another post.

Overall, I think this is a great piece of gear.
quote:

I anticipate an entire new focus on the L1 series by "the industry" now that the Compact has arrived. This means almost everyone who appreciates good professional sound can afford to enter the world of Bose. Price now has been totally removed from a potential buyer's objection list.

A couple of other objections that this addresses:

  1. Ease of use. This thing is drop-dead simple. Basically, if a connector fits, you have it in the right place (ignoring the line-outs).

  2. Portability (1). For spoken word applications, this thing sounds amazing and weight less than an single 802.

  3. Portability (2). The whole unit is shorter (front-to-back) than a B1, only slightly wider than a B1, only slightly taller than a B1. Basically, if you have room in your trunk for a B1, you have room for a Compact.

  4. Productivity: It's so fast to set up
    If I was providing A/V (audio-visual) support for a facility that hosts events, I could see having several of these available. And I would be ecstatic that most of the time, there would be little if any support required.


quote:

Perhaps you could venture a response to this question: If the Model II with a T1 and two B1's equals a performance level of 100%, how would you rank the Compact and T1 combo? I am assuming from your comments thus far that the number will be greater than 50%.

The more I think about this, the more difficult it may be to answer. But do your best.


I think the answer is "it depends".

If we look at absolutes for a minute; if it we provide sound as required throughout the room, then the job is done. If we don't provide the sound as and where it's required then we have failed.


In any application where the Compact will get the job done, any more would be superfluous. So if a Compact will do the job, the Model II isn't really relevant.

In any application where the Compact (with or without a T1®) will not not get the job done, then we set that aside and look at other alternatives. It would make great sense to consider a Model I or Model II.

So I'm wriggling out of the

"if x is 100%, what is y?"

on the basis that

  • For those applications where the Compact and the other L1®s overlap in suitability, I would take the Compact.

  • For those applications where the Compact is not completely suitable, then looking at the percentage that it meets the requirements doesn't help the people who can't hear.

    Am I getting anywhere close to what you wanted to know Garry?
  • Hi Starvin,


    quote:
    Originally posted by starvin007:
    OK, One last question. Do you have a Keyboard in your arsenal that you could try? Something with a solid Grand piano sample?

    I do have a Keyboard here (Korg T1) with really nice Grand Piano samples, but I'm not really tuned in to those sounds so I can confirm that I hit keys and sound comes out. Don't know what else to add.

    quote:

    Louis our Keyboard has been dreaming about something like this since he bought his L1.A few of his restaurant engagements don't have enough room for his L1 they wouldn't even accommodate the Fishman's footprint. This sounds like the perfect answer to his dilemma.


    I just wrote this in a post while you were typing.

    "Portability (2). The whole unit is shorter (front-to-back) than a B1, only slightly wider than a B1, only slightly taller than a B1. Basically, if you have room in your trunk for a B1, you have room for a Compact."

    Do you think something the size of a B1 would be small enough for Louis's dilemma?
    quote:
    Originally posted by starvin007:
    quote:
    I guess the question is, can you work with something 78 1/2" tall?


    Absolutely! I have 79". Close but I 'm sure I could make that work.

    Thanks ST


    You need a a couple of inches to do the assembly part. You might be able to make it work by assembling it in a stairwell and sliding it into place. It's certainly light enough to carry around fully assembled.
    quote:
    Do you think something the size of a B1 would be small enough for Louis's dilemma?


    Absolutely!That is a smaller footprint than the piano amp he has been using for those gigs.

    quote:
    I can confirm that I hit keys and sound comes out. Don't know what else to add.


    I think I read somewhere that Cliff enjoyed the piano sound.He should know.
    I'll check.

    Thanks
    Yep here it is Col. Cliff-at-Bose wrote

    quote:
    Now that the kitty is out in the open, I must say that the New Baby delivers just like an L1. Yeah, I know full well what the differences are, intellectually and from a pure-science point of view. But the experience of playing thru the L1C is just like an L1. Honest.

    I've been playing thru this stuff longer than anyone on the planet and have probably done more solo demos (piano and voice) than anyone at this point. Even in the early-prototype days, the thing never failed to satisfy. It gives me the same means of expression, the same juice. It's a real acheivement in both musical electroacoustics and simple product definition, the latter not being that simple a task.

    And so, me bucko's: Bon Appetit.

    Hey Drumr Pete,

    quote:
    Originally posted by Drumr:
    ST...would you say, seeing my Fish Fry video on YouTube, that the C would provide enough thump for my needs?


    Do you mean this video It's Such a Pretty World Today.

    Well I've been experimenting with all kinds of things and I think using the PorchBoard as a replacement for kick drum you might do better running the PorchBoard to the T1 and taking the preamp out to a PackLite and two B1s. I found that the PorchBoard direct to the PackLite can clip and sound - well it ain't pretty.

    But go ahead and get the Compact and see all the places you CAN use it, especially for the smaller ensembles, like when you are doing a recording session.

    I can just imagine what you'll go through as you approach the 45 day point of no return.
    I didn't like...

    This is a very short list and some things aren't all that major.

    Hiss
    Edit: I have just found out that this unit was a pre-production unit. The units in production do not have this issue. See note from Craig-at-Bose below.
    Original comments prior to this knowledge are in italics.
    With all the controls at 12:00 o'clock, I can hear a hiss from the speakers. This is louder than the hiss from the Classic (that seems to drop off at 4-8 feet). This is louder than the almost non-existent hiss of Model II (that you have be within a couple of feet to hear).

    I can hear this hiss 12 feet away and farther if I really listen for it. You probably won't here it over the sound of an audience. But I noticed it, am aware of it when the Compact is idle, so I thought I should mention it. To put this into perspective, this is no louder than I have heard from just about any amplifier or powered speaker I've heard in a quiet room. I'm sure the main reason I noticed is that it is louder than the Classic or Model II. And those two devices are tough acts to follow.

    Edit: RWJ (below) observed that the hiss is more pronounced from Channel 1. I can confirm this now, and that it is most noticeable if you have the volume turned up loud and nothing else is happening (no one on the microphone).
    see Hiss Revisited

    Edit: I had the Compact out at a gig last night (2009/05/04). This was a restaurant/pub and the hiss was inaudible over the ambient noise in the room.

    Signal/Clip indicator
    From the manual:

    Displays the input signal status in color.
    • Green: Input signal present
    • Red: Input signal clipping

    My issue is that I can't see them when I'm performing (if seated) and I have to go back the Power Stand to see things and to make adjustments. An ameliorating factor is that the Compact doesn't seem to distort if you clip it, at least not until you really hit it hard. And for me I sensed that it was compressing rather than distorting the signal. So it's not going to sound bad just because you can't see those red flickers.


    Apparent Volume on stage (compared to Classic/Model I/Model II)
    This is completely subjective and I hope to get out my sound pressure level meter to confirm or refute this. It FEELS like I have to run a little louder on stage to get good solid volume at a distance. It's fine, it's just a little louder than I have come to like.


    Controls at the Back (again) and No Remote
    Okay - the Compact looks great from the front, the part facing the audience. But I am so used to being able to control the sound from either an R1 Remote or a T1®, that this business of having to run back and forth to that Power Stand is a little off-putting. I'm sure that eventually I'll get to set-and-forget mode with respect to the controls, but I find myself wishing that I didn't have to go back to the Power Stand to adjust the volume.

    Now if I use a T1® this issue goes away.

    T1® - what no ToneMatch cable connection
    This has been discussed before, and I understand that I can use the analog connection and an external power supply. That's okay. I just wish that Bose has allowed me to use my ToneMatch cable and provided power from Power Stand. It would greatly simplify my setup.

    This one is not a big deal. I just thought I'd mention it.

    Sticking / Binding Extensions
    I really like that the extensions allow you to get the Loudspeaker Array up in the air where it belongs - and that it is done so elegantly. No tripods or ugly speaker stands here.

    Perhaps it is because this is a new unit, I find that the extensions are a little hard to pull apart. I hope this will ease up with time so that it is as easy to assemble/disassemble as it appears in the video.


    My list of complaints is pretty small.



    Any more questions?
    ST - First of all, thanks for all your reports on the L1C! Great info!

    Secondly, you hit upon two things I immediately thought about, when I first saw the L1C.
    quote:
    Controls at the Back (again) and No Remote

    quote:
    T1®- what no ToneMatch cable connection

    Interesting that you should mention these two things after little usage of the L1C. I'm a little surprised by Bose about both decisions. It just seems to make more sense to me to have the controls easily accessible from the front of the unit and to have provided a T1® ToneMatch direct connection. Oh well...version II, maybe!

    I'll be watching for first reports from other L1C pioneers! Keep the reports comin'
    Hey again ST, and all,

    Very simply, I REALLY AM happy for you guys!

    I truly DO NOT believe that any comparison to, or even discussion of, is necessary or even useful. I thought I said that...

    A year ago, I believed and NEEDED a smaller, easier to schlepp sound system. (Very few seemed to think this was an important factor back then...) I was right, for me, and I have been delighted since, every time. I am equally delighted, still, when I use my Classic in my electric band situations, every time. It is ALL great, with the most important consideration, to me, being that we can all make better music than ever, using all of this wonderful, easy to use equipment. (Shoot, last weekend, our band played a festival, and because of very tight timing and union impositions, we played with a good quality triple system - not a Bose in sight, and even THIS sounded fine - pretty amazing. We were on and off within 15 minutes each way, and I believe BECAUSE OF our Bose experience, and a good soundman, we made it sound fine.)

    So, anyway - again, COMPLETELY FACE VALUE - this is wonderful, I am happy for these new experiences for you guys, and I truly and simply hope you enjoy using this lighter and easier device, and lets all enjoy making our music!

    Best, Mike
    Good rundown ST ... thanks again for your usual detailed insights ...

    When using the Claasic L1 system in close proximity to folk ... I would often experience complaints about hissing when not playing (i.e on my breaks)So would have to turn down the whole system for the duration of a break ...

    With system 2 I've not heard much hiss at all ... so that problem was solved.

    So if the new compact creates excessive hiss. This make moi a bit leary ..

    My question is ... would the speaker arrays fit comfortably in the compact's new carry case?

    Just really dislike the fact that I have to unpack & pack, plus carry each column seperately into & out of a gig ...

    This fact has turned out to really a PITA with my beloved Bose systems ...
    Even a drummer leaves before I do,
    since I also mic an amp these days through the L1 ...
    quote:
    I found that the PorchBoard direct to the PackLite can clip and sound - well it ain't pretty.

    ST, did you mean "the PorchBoard direct to the" Compact can clip?

    I have run the PB direct into my Model II analog in on the power stand (without towers) with a single B1 attached and it worked fine.
    So for my country gigs, I couldn't really slim down enough to make the L1 Compact worthwhile, having to add the T1/A1/B1s to the list.
    There is just no way for a Bose reinforced drummer to trim down that far...or a synthesized guitarist either, I notice.
    But as you've said, I really do need to buy one of these just to see, and to keep the *family* together.
    Hi Drumr Pete,

    quote:
    Originally posted by Drumr:
    quote:
    I found that the PorchBoard direct to the PackLite can clip and sound - well it ain't pretty.

    ST, did you mean "the PorchBoard direct to the" Compact can clip?



    Actually - I did mean this.

    Among several things to get more PorchBoard into the mix.

    At one point I tried running the PorchBoard direct to a PackLite with two B1s, just to see if it would work. It does but you can clip it if you hit the PorchBoard hard.
    Hi Joseph,

    Ahhh, about three years ago... I'm remembering Big Sur...

    Okay back to business.

    quote:
    Originally posted by Joseph:
    Good rundown ST ... thanks again for your usual detailed insights ...

    When using the Claasic L1 system in close proximity to folk ... I would often experience complaints about hissing when not playing (i.e on my breaks)So would have to turn down the whole system for the duration of a break ...

    With system 2 I've not heard much hiss at all ... so that problem was solved.

    So if the new compact creates excessive hiss. This make moi a bit leary ..

    Well, you are probably going to want to turn down the Volume controls on the Compact during breaks. Or simpler, you can probably just switch it off or play background music.
    quote:

    My question is ... would the speaker arrays fit comfortably in the compact's new carry case?

    Ahhh. The Speaker Array fits right into the Power Stand.

    The Extensions are super light. Less than five pounds for both of them. They come with a light case that you toss over your shoulder.

    Check out this L1® Compact Interactive Demo to get the full scoop.
    quote:



    Just really dislike the fact that I have to unpack & pack, plus carry each column separately into & out of a gig ...

    Less than a microphone stand for both extensions.

    And the Power Stand with the Speaker Array is 24.6 pounds. That's less than one of your B1s. And that Power Stand is just slightly bigger than a B1.
    quote:

    This fact has turned out to really a PITA with my beloved Bose systems ...
    Even a drummer leaves before I do,
    since I also mic an amp these days through the L1 ...


    I can feel your pain there buddy, but this Compact is a lot lighter all round than the Classic.

    There's lots more info here for you in the wiki.

    L1® Compact page in the wiki.
    I spent some time this morning with my new L1 compact. I am really liking it. It's going to simplify things even more for this old man.

    ST, I had not noticed the hiss in mine until you mentioned it. It is not bad at all in my unit. There seems to be a little more on the mike channel. I'll do more checking in a gig this week.

    Some other observations:

    This unit has tons of bass for its size.
    I really do feel like I'm playing through my classic or model II. Nice!

    It definitely does drop off more quickly than its big brothers.

    It gets very loud for its size. It could be a little uncomfortable if you are trying to fill a big room or carry too far outside. Gee, I guess that's why they make the other units.

    The wide dispersion is great and is what we have come to enjoy so much in the other models. For speakers(talkers) making a presentation in a wide room, it will be a great help to the crowd to use this equipment. Many presenters think they have a strong voice and don't need a mike.
    Sure, enough sound can be heard, but each time you turn your head to the left or right there is a considerable loss of high frequency info., the stuff that consonants are made of. The L1 will greatly improve clarity and communication even for small crowds, especially in big rooms.

    My work with the compact today was outside. It did very well and I would not hesitate to use it in some street festivals where I'm covering small crowds that stop to listen for a while. It will be just right.

    The clarity of the system is what we have come to expect from the L1 family and the compact holds its own in that department. However, in my limited testing, It seems to be much clearer when one or both of the extensions are used. I'm not sure why that is. When it's in the collapsed configuration it can sound a bit muddy at high volume levels. It seems that there may be some masking of certain frequencies when all of the sound is coming from the same place. I seem to remember that the crossover point is at around 400hz. I don't know how sharp the crossover slope is but perhaps there is a region where certain frequencies are being reinforced and masking some of the mid-highs and highs. Perhaps it's the cocktail party effect in the vertical dimension.
    I'm in way over my head here. It may just be my imagination that it's clearer with the extensions. Perhaps some Bose folks will chime in.

    It is a really fine addition to my equipment and I salute Bose for making it available.

    Now, about having to use the power supply with the tonematch module..................

    My best,
    Rick
    Electric Guitar / Bass

    Joseph - My Ibanez GB10 sounds amazing through this. Just straight in, no Preset. Bigger boxes too (Howard Roberts, L5)

    Doug and all you other tone monsters - This sounds pretty much like a Model II, so you can expect the same kind of sound. I'm don't see competing with a hard hitting Drummer though. I would definitely take this to a gig where I am doing leads with an acoustic oriented band.

    Andy - I ran my Musicman Stingray (4 string fretless) through this and I can clearly hear all the way down, even with the D-dropper. Think presence, not drive.

    I can't remember the name of your old band, but I can imagine this being fine for that kind of music, in a small venue (maybe 800-1000 square feet). Bigger than that and I'd be rolling in a something with at least a couple of B1s.
    Hiss Revisited

    Hi Rick!

    quote:
    Originally posted by rwj:
    I spent some time this morning with my new L1 compact. I am really liking it. It's going to simplify things even more for this old man.

    ST, I had not noticed the hiss in mine until you mentioned it. It is not bad at all in my unit. There seems to be a little more on the mike channel. I'll do more checking in a gig this week.

    [...]
    Rick


    I've gone back and revisited this.

    Yes, it is definitely more pronounced on the microphone channel (Channel 1).

    I realize now that with the Volume set at 12:00, this is pretty loud when you actually start singing. It is unlikely, except when testing, that I would leave the system unattended with the microphone level that high.

    Channel 2 seems quieter.


    Edit:
    And a little more on this:

    I did a little more testing (DJs in mind here).

    When playing pre-recorded music you do not hear the hiss at all.

    Edit: I had the Compact out at a gig last night (2009/05/04). This was a restaurant/pub and the hiss was inaudible over the ambient noise in the room.

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