Good point. I guess I haven't considered it since the presets are there for the instruments I use. But that is not to say they couldn't be tweaked, or that I won't be needing a different one in the near future. I am looking to get an Ovation with the Op Pro Studion preamp. I'm sure the T1 doesn't have a Tonematch setting for that. I agree about getting updated Tonematch settings. I mean, that's the whole reason the T1 exists, right? It's the whole selling point of this unit. You DON"T have to be a sound engineer to get a good sound out of it, and it is matched nicely to fit the L1 systems. If you are left to adjust the EQ yourself, then there are cheaper options for mixers out there. I do LOVE the effects on the T1, and the fact that you can apply them to each channel separately. That's huge.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see how things develop on these lines.
You're right about other cheaper mixers being available. What really convinced me to buy the T1 was its sheer size and capabilities in such a small housing which I could mount on my microphone stand for my solo work with a Compact. For that type of thing I have basically everything I need, including all the "normal" effects in good quality.
The Compact + T1 did however mean that I had to run 2 Cables to my Microphone stand just to be able to use the T1 with my Compact (plus the fact that I had to adjust the trim on the Analog input of Channel 2 for overall main volume). When I bought my Model II I was really happy that I only needed 1 cable and that the Master on the T1 controlled the main volume.
With the T8S it would appear that I would have to go back to the system I had with my Compact. Somehow I can't see this as being a big step forward for me. Yes, I could mix my trio with just 1 Tonematch mixer rather than the 2 T1's we need when gigging. Would the outlay be acceptable for the ease of having just 1? For many I think that the answer here will be yes, but I fear that I'll be staying with my 2 x T1 set up. The only thing that could possibly change my mind would be to have a substantial increase in the number of available presets. Failing that I would personally probably be looking at a rack mixer controllable via wifi (à la Behringer X32 Rack mixer which has more possibilities, more inputs and more all round).
The disadvantage here being that you need to have a certain knowledge of digital mixing consoles to be able to use it (plus an iPad or similar to control it. I have this knowledge and already own a Yamaha digital mixer. Many don't know much about EQ'ing which was Bose's big argument when they brought out the T1. It was an innovative product with its presets.
Unfortunately this part of the story seems to have ended about 10 years ago. I would really have loved to have seen a major increase in the number of available presets. That would have been a big step forward again in my opinion.
Don't get me wrong here. More features is great. More inputs is great. The improvements in the effects section is great .... but .... for the musician who's being coaxed into doing his own mixing and has never done it before, time seems to have stood still regarding EQ-Presets. Also the ability to load single presets to be able to customize the Preset Banks to fit one's needs could have been improved on. Maybe someone at Bose will read this and say ... "Hey Tony, we've already done this. Just look on page X of the Manual". I'd love to read that. I may be jumping the gun here. I certainly hope so.
If not, maybe there's still time for these things to be considered and applied to this new series of mixers. It would be a shame to have to wait another 10 years for these things to appear and by then the boat may have already sailed ... ...
I know that this probably sounds like griping, but as far as I see things, the forum is also there for people to exchange thoughts, feelings and ideas about the equipment. That's how it was at the beginning anyway. Maybe one or more of the R+D people will read this thread and just have a think about what I've written here. If this has all been taken into account and is being implemented OK. If not maybe it will give food for thought.
Maybe it just hasn't been possible for Bose to compensate for Cliff Henricksen's departure from the Company. I could understand that, but as I see it, no one is completely unreplaceable.
I am an avid supporter of the L1 series of products. I personally don't know at present of any PA system that suits my Band's needs better than an L1. I'd just like it to stay that way.
One thing that I've always been impressed by has been the speed at which Bose has reacted to any problems that we users may have had over the years. I'd like to say a big "thanks" to all the Bose people who work or have worked in the support team. I know that many of you are musicians yourselves. Maybe that's one big reason that it works so well.
I hope that anyone reading this will see it for what it is ... and that is just expressing my thoughts, wishes maybe even dreams regarding equipment that I have come to love and trust. I'd really love to see this Bose dream that started with the first L1 continue as it began.
I'd also like to send out a massive word of thanks to Ken Jacob for the development of the L1 system and the forum here that we've all come to know so well and love so much.
Take care everyone and thanks for reading this.