Discussions about the new Bose S1 Pro

Bose S1 Pro

Designed for musicians, DJs and general PA use, the S1 Pro is the ultimate all-in-one PA, floor monitor and practice amplifier that's ready to be your go-anywhere Bluetooth music system for nearly any occasion. 

This is the place to discuss the S1 Pro system.

Bose S1 Pro System

Hi Oldghm,

It's been nice to see you here again.

Oldghm posted:

Beyond software updates and service center tech use, I'm wondering about the USB service port. Will it be possible for Bose to troubleshoot a malfunctioning unit on line? 

 

Not in the current plan. This would take some software engineering to do it.  Great idea though. I'll pass it along.

Thanks,

ST

Tom the Guitar Guy posted:

I just finished a casino bar gig.   Bar is located in between two restaurants and my back is to the walkway and Casino slot machines...  yup,  loud environment...

Gotta tell you though,  the S1 worked great - loud enough to get over the slots... in fact one person came over while I was packing up and stayed help had been at the slot machine for the last couple of hours (behind me)  and thoroughly enjoyed the music...

Here are a few pics...  I'll write yoo a more comprehensive review in their next couple days...20180127_19013920180127_19014820180127_18432120180127_184313

Tom, which output on the T1 fed the S1? 

Auron posted:

Is it possible to connect 2 of them in stereo via bluetooth?

I dont think so, but even if it did allow it, i wouldnt recommend it. I would consider splitting the source into two mono signals via a 3.5mm breakout splitter cable then using two separate bluetooth transmitters to go to each S1. More complex but has a much further reach and is way more reliable. 

Well...i just heard about it this a.m. , watched everything on line that can possibly be watched and then thought long and hard about my setup. I use a compact w/ a T1. I figured this would be nice to have should the compact ever give me trouble at a gig so.....it's in the mail. I'll let you know what I think about it when I get my hands on it.

I have to give a followup after using the S1 for more than a week.  I'm still liking it overall a lot, but there are a few things that are not perfect.

I'm still not crazy about using a speaker on a stick.  Part of the beauty of the Compact was having the tower that would lift the tweeters up without the need for a separate stand.  I have bought a couple of smaller and lighter stands than the standard Ultimate Support speaker stand, but it's not as convenient as carrying the Compact speaker extensions.  And I've tried the S1 on the floor and on a table, and I still don't think it sounds as good as it does when it's elevated above head height.

The vocal seems muddier than the Compact.  This is funny because I remember that one of the complaints when the Compact was launched was that it had too much treble.  It seems now that I've used it for a few years that I prefer the boosted treble and have adjusted my ears and my technique to this.  I'm adjusting to the S1, but it's worth noting that there is a difference.  Having said this, the acoustic guitar sounds "mahvelous" through the S1 - nice and bright and full.  It doesn't have quite the low-end warmth that the Compact has, but it's acceptable.

The reverb is best used sparingly for me.  It's a pretty big hall reverb, so I'm finding that I can't use more than about 9:00 on the dial.

The versatile shape is great in use, but it tends to roll around the back of a vehicle unless you put it on its face.  I'd rather having it standing up. but that just doesn't work for me.

Again, overall I'm really liking this new system, but it's worth noting its quirks too.

Hi Tony, Tom.

Since you two have been talking about stands, I thought I'd drop in here.

This is a compact stand from Yorkville Sound. Notice the legs. They are fully extended

It's 48 inches (122 cm) tall at the maximum height. It is tallest when the legs are fully extended so there's no real benefit pulling in the legs unless you are really tight for floor space.

At this height, I could use it if the audience is seated. The logo on S1 Pro is 49 inches (125 cm) off the floor in this picture.

Interesting to note, with the legs fully extended, the stand takes more floor space than a Compact.  If floor space is tight, I would use a Compact instead of an S1 Pro on a stand.  But I'm enjoying the added portability you get working on batteries. You don't have to find a power outlet!

ST

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I have an OnStage stand that maxes out at 48" and a Samson stand at 54" and have used them both at gigs now.  They're both pretty good - I prefer the 54" for height and the 48" for lightness and portability.  I also ordered an OnStage mic speaker stand adaptor from ZZSounds (also available at B&H) that screws a cylindrical speaker mount on the top of any mic stand that I think may be even more useful for some situations.

Hi Tom,

Thanks for taking the time to share your experiences and thoughts about the S1 Pro.

Tom Munch posted:

I have to give a followup after using the S1 for more than a week.  I'm still liking it overall a lot, but there are a few things that are not perfect.

Like you, I like it too. 

I'm still not crazy about using a speaker on a stick.  Part of the beauty of the Compact was having the tower that would lift the tweeters up without the need for a separate stand. I have bought a couple of smaller and lighter stands than the standard Ultimate Support speaker stand, but it's not as convenient as carrying the Compact speaker extensions.  

Thinking about the S1 Pro is one thing. Thinking about it as someone who owns an L1 Compact is another. It's hard not to draw comparisons.

And I've tried the S1 on the floor and on a table, and I still don't think it sounds as good as it does when it's elevated above head height.

When you get it up high, not surprisingly it sounds more like the L1 Compact, than in the other positions (unless you use the L1 Compact without the extensions).

The vocal seems muddier than the Compact.  This is funny because I remember that one of the complaints when the Compact was launched was that it had too much treble.  It seems now that I've used it for a few years that I prefer the boosted treble and have adjusted my ears and my technique to this.  I'm adjusting to the S1, but it's worth noting that there is a difference.  Having said this, the acoustic guitar sounds "mahvelous" through the S1 - nice and bright and full.  It doesn't have quite the low-end warmth that the Compact has, but it's acceptable.

I did some testing at 20 and then 30 feet. I think you may like vocals better at a distance.

The reverb is best used sparingly for me.  It's a pretty big hall reverb, so I'm finding that I can't use more than about 9:00 on the dial.

Ditto, but from what I recall, you don't bury your tone with reverb.

The versatile shape is great in use, but it tends to roll around the back of a vehicle unless you put it on its face.  I'd rather having it standing up. but that just doesn't work for me.

Again, overall I'm really liking this new system, but it's worth noting its quirks too.

It's great to see you here Tom,

ST

ST posted:

Hi Tom,

Thanks for taking the time to share your experiences and thoughts about the S1 Pro.

Tom Munch posted:

I have to give a followup after using the S1 for more than a week.  I'm still liking it overall a lot, but there are a few things that are not perfect.

Like you, I like it too. 

I'm still not crazy about using a speaker on a stick.  Part of the beauty of the Compact was having the tower that would lift the tweeters up without the need for a separate stand. I have bought a couple of smaller and lighter stands than the standard Ultimate Support speaker stand, but it's not as convenient as carrying the Compact speaker extensions.  

Thinking about the S1 Pro is one thing. Thinking about it as someone who owns an L1 Compact is another. It's hard not to draw comparisons.

Yes, I'm definitely doing a comparo.

And I've tried the S1 on the floor and on a table, and I still don't think it sounds as good as it does when it's elevated above head height.

When you get it up high, not surprisingly it sounds more like the L1 Compact, than in the other positions (unless you use the L1 Compact without the extensions).

I may prefer the EQ curve when it's on a stand too.  The little actuator switch inside the speaker hole is very cool.

The vocal seems muddier than the Compact.  This is funny because I remember that one of the complaints when the Compact was launched was that it had too much treble.  It seems now that I've used it for a few years that I prefer the boosted treble and have adjusted my ears and my technique to this.  I'm adjusting to the S1, but it's worth noting that there is a difference.  Having said this, the acoustic guitar sounds "mahvelous" through the S1 - nice and bright and full.  It doesn't have quite the low-end warmth that the Compact has, but it's acceptable.

I did some testing at 20 and then 30 feet. I think you may like vocals better at a distance.

I did too.  I still had to boost the highs to get the sound I wanted.

The reverb is best used sparingly for me.  It's a pretty big hall reverb, so I'm finding that I can't use more than about 9:00 on the dial.

Ditto, but from what I recall, you don't bury your tone with reverb.

Yep, can't stand too much.

The versatile shape is great in use, but it tends to roll around the back of a vehicle unless you put it on its face.  I'd rather having it standing up. but that just doesn't work for me.

Again, overall I'm really liking this new system, but it's worth noting its quirks too.

It's to see you Tom,

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ST

 

ST posted:

Hi Tony, Tom.

Since you two have been talking about stands, I thought I'd drop in here.

This is a commpact stand from Yorkville Sound. Notice the legs. They are fully extended

It's 48 inches (122 cm) tall at the maximum height. It is tallest when the legs are fully extended so there's no real benefit pulling in the legs unless you are really tight for floor space.

At this height, I could use it if the audience is seated. The logo on S1 Pro is 49 inches (125 cm) off the floor in this picture.

Interesting to note, with the legs fully extended, the stand takes more floor space than a Compact.  If floor space is tight, I would use a Compact instead of an S1 Pro on a stand.  But I'm enjoying the added portability you get working on batteries. You don't have to find a power outlet!

ST

Hi ST,

thanks for chipping in on this theme. 

I find that stands are a preference type of thing. Speaker Stands have to fulfill one or two safety criteria before I'll use them. Call me over-safety conscious if you will, but for me they've got to be units that I can trust not to fall over just by looking at them too hard. When using tripods it's always better to have them as far away from the audience as possible to prevent accidents. If I'm using it as an Amp-Stand I take a closer look at it because after all if it falls over it takes my amp with it. Not good. I've got pretty OK ones for use with my band's HK Audio Lucas Impact system. They go reasonably high and have a rather large footprint (+ safety pins for helping to secure the stand when raised etc). But they're large.

For my Hughes and Kettner Era1 I bought the stand I pictured earlier in this thread. It certainly wasn't cheap, but also has a safety pin, a really good height to be used as a personal monitor and can be raised so the the amp is at roughly my head height. I'll always accept a slightly larger footprint for a tripod if it means that the stability is better. This one isn't actually too bad. The tripod is excellent. For many gigs it will suffice. If it's on a slightly raised stage probably for most gigs.

BTW ST. Nice looking paddle you've got there 

Tony

I just got my S1 a few days ago. Thought I had ordered the battery too, had to get that separately. Bothered me a bit.

I really like like this little rig. I am using it as a monitor right now. Vocal mic and Martin D28 with a thinline piezo bridge pickup. No preamp. By setting the tm switch to mic and tweaking the eq it sounds smooth and clear. And, with the guitar channel on the guitar setting it sounds really really good. Plenty of power with our band. We play folky, country, and r&r. The S1 keeps right up.

No, it is not for big crowds. It is not as loud as the Compact. It is perfect for small rooms. Did I say it sounds really nice?

I am going to use it for busking this summer.

 

I own a L1 compact with T1 Tone-Match. I recently bought a Hughes & Kettner Era 1 and was doing A to B comparisons and last night decided to take the Era 1 back. Era 1 is an awesome amp, but for my style of acoustic playing and singing, L1 compact comes so close. I can't justify the price for a H&K Era 1 when I already have the L1 compact.

Then I was looking at the S1 Pro, but again I own a small Roland AC33 as well. But I am going to check it out any how.

Hi Aruna,

welcome to the forum.

Aruna posted:

I own a L1 compact with T1 Tone-Match.

I started out (bosewise) with exactly that combination about 7 years ago.

I recently bought a Hughes & Kettner Era 1 and was doing A to B comparisons and last night decided to take the Era 1 back.

Sound wise I don't think that the Era1 and Compact are really comparable. The sound is different and the coverage in a room differs considerably. I prefer the Era1 to an AER however. They were designed by the same person but the Era1 sounds warmer and not as clinical as the AER Compact 60.

Era 1 is an awesome amp, but for my style of acoustic playing and singing, L1 compact comes so close. I can't justify the price for a H&K Era 1 when I already have the L1 compact.

Regarding the price of the Era1: My go to store for many years let me have the Era1 for the same price as a Compact. In wood it also looks really good in my living room (I have it on a small loudspeaker stand) and with all its features (effects, phantom power etc) it means I can use it as a stand alone. That's basically why I bought it. It's also warmer in sound than a Compact. For most gigs I would generally opt for the Compact because of the coverage. At home there's less to set up, it sounds good and has 2 identical channels.

Then I was looking at the S1 Pro, but again I own a small Roland AC33 C as well. But I am going to check it out any how.

I heard the Roland AC33 being used on batteries on the streets in a seaside town in England about 3 years ago. I was really impressed by what came out of it and actually considered buying one. I couldn't justify it at the time. I do however like the idea of being able to power it with 8 x AA batteries. Using Eneloop rechargeables (which I use for many devices) it's a really easy, cheap way of powering it without mains power, and I can source out replacements (or a reserve set) almost anywhere. I would have welcomed this approach with the S1 Pro. But then again the S1 Pro gives out the same power using batteries as when using mains power. The AC33 has a slightly reduced output. Horses for courses I guess.

I'll probably check out the S1 Pro too, but that could turn out to be a dangerous confrontation ... 

Tony

Seagullman posted:

Hi Aruna,

welcome to the forum.

Aruna posted:

I own a L1 compact with T1 Tone-Match.

I started out (bosewise) with exactly that combination about 7 years ago.

I recently bought a Hughes & Kettner Era 1 and was doing A to B comparisons and last night decided to take the Era 1 back.

Sound wise I don't think that the Era1 and Compact are really comparable. The sound is different and the coverage in a room differs considerably. I prefer the Era1 to an AER however. They were designed by the same person but the Era1 sounds warmer and not as clinical as the AER Compact 60.

Era 1 is an awesome amp, but for my style of acoustic playing and singing, L1 compact comes so close. I can't justify the price for a H&K Era 1 when I already have the L1 compact.

Regarding the price of the Era1: My go to store for many years let me have the Era1 for the same price as a Compact. In wood it also looks really good in my living room (I have it on a small loudspeaker stand) and with all its features (effects, phantom power etc) it means I can use it as a stand alone. That's basically why I bought it. It's also warmer in sound than a Compact. For most gigs I would generally opt for the Compact because of the coverage. At home there's less to set up, it sounds good and has 2 identical channels.

Then I was looking at the S1 Pro, but again I own a small Roland AC33 C as well. But I am going to check it out any how.

I heard the Roland AC33 being used on batteries on the streets in a seaside town in England about 3 years ago. I was really impressed by what came out of it and actually considered buying one. I couldn't justify it at the time. I do however like the idea of being able to power it with 8 x AA batteries. Using Eneloop rechargeables (which I use for many devices) it's a really easy, cheap way of powering it without mains power, and I can source out replacements (or a reserve set) almost anywhere. I would have welcomed this approach with the S1 Pro. But then again the S1 Pro gives out the same power using batteries as when using mains power. The AC33 has a slightly reduced output. Horses for courses I guess.

I'll probably check out the S1 Pro too, but that could turn out to be a dangerous confrontation ... 

Tony

Yes, I totally agree,  Era 1 has a warmer sound than the Compact. Since I had the Era 1 for about 20 days, and gotten used to the sound, it is hard to get used to the AC-33 sound, which I used to love. The Compact is ideal for larger venues, I use it for Coffee Shop shows when I need 4 channels and 50 people. I still love the sound of the Compact. So lets see, what will happen :-) I too will check the S1 Pro.

Hi Aruna,

Aruna posted:
Yes, I totally agree,  Era 1 has a warmer sound than the Compact. Since I had the Era 1 for about 20 days, and gotten used to the sound, it is hard to get used to the AC-33 sound, which I used to love.
What we shouldn't be forgetting here is that the Era1 costs about 3 times the price of the AC-33 and roughly double that of an S1 Pro. I think each unit has its strengths and weaknesses.
Considering what you get in the package the AC-33 packs a pretty good punch in its price class. I really love the idea of the built in looper. 
The following Youtube Demo by Phil Keaggy gives a really good idea of what the AC-33 is capable of.
 
The Compact is ideal for larger venues, I use it for Coffee Shop shows when I need 4 channels and 50 people. I still love the sound of the Compact. So lets see, what will happen :-) I too will check the S1 Pro.

Here I would tend to agree with you completely. For venues where you aren't necessarily sitting in a corner and you basically need an all-round coverage which isn't too intrusive the L1 family really comes into its own with its 180° horizontal dispersion. For smaller quieter venues my go to system is more often than not my Compact + T1. I love the fingertip control of the T1 on my microphone stand.

I can see the S1 Pro with its effects section + battery power option being an interesting option for many people. With the S1 Pro I would also (in this price section) have welcomed the looping possibilities of the AC-33. Mind you if this option was there we'd probably find something else which we could find good use for. 

Nowadays where just about anything's possible we tend to complain at an extremely high level ... 

Tony

I have had my S1 Pro for less than a week now... I didn’t think I would use it for a mini PA, but I have found it quite useful for light PA duty on my smallest shows... I prefer the sound over the L1 Compact in general... although my Compacts still have a place for the outdoor ceremonies I do. They have a much wider coverage area which I have found to be very important in the past. 

Just got my S1 Pro, with the battery. Excited to test it out and write an in depth review. Wondering if anyone knows about the unit's charging mechanism. When using quick charge mode - Will the speaker auto shut off/ stop charging when the battery is fully charged ? (Is it safe to leave the speaker charging over night ?)

Also how does the unit display a limit signal when reaching peak volumes?

I'm not using an external mixer - recommendations for safe volume limits using the 3 channel volume knobs?

Brandon,  

    If you are like me, you are going to be very pleased with your S1 Pro & Battery Power.  I'm anxious to read your own in depth review.   To answer your question: 

• In quick charge mode:  I have left the speaker in this mode all night and into the next day the first time I charged it and so I assume it does quit charging when it reaches full capacity.   There was no harm done by leaving it in this mode.  

• The battery is always charging when the unit is plugged in, so I haven't had the need for quick charge since. But this could be a good thing to use between sets or breaks.  However, with the long 8 hours and 15 minutes solid I got out of it (with still indicating 10%-24% available) this is likely unnecessary as well. 

• The volume limit/trim/clipping levels display the same as on other Bose L1 units and the T1 Tonematch.  Over the Volume knob, Green indicates signal is present—Red indicates signal clipping (need to reduce volume)  (see screenshot below)

    Let us know how you like it and all the details of your review.  Most of all enjoy!  I know I have been!    Tom 

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Musicianthomas posted:

Brandon,  

    If you are like me, you are going to be very pleased with your S1 Pro & Battery Power.  I'm anxious to read your own in depth review.   To answer your question: 

• In quick charge mode:  I have left the speaker in this mode all night and into the next day the first time I charged it and so I assume it does quit charging when it reaches full capacity.   There was no harm done by leaving it in this mode.  

• The battery is always charging when the unit is plugged in, so I haven't had the need for quick charge since. But this could be a good thing to use between sets or breaks.  However, with the long 8 hours and 15 minutes solid I got out of it (with still indicating 10%-24% available) this is likely unnecessary as well. 

• The volume limit/trim/clipping levels display the same as on other Bose L1 units and the T1 Tonematch.  Over the Volume knob, Green indicates signal is present—Red indicates signal clipping (need to reduce volume)  (see screenshot below)

    Let us know how you like it and all the details of your review.  Most of all enjoy!  I know I have been!    Tom 

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Awesome thank for letting me know tom ! Best - Brandon

RF-Musiker/ Musician posted:

Here a guitar player and a singer show first the L1 compact and then the S1, what looks tiny and doesn't sound so tiny, as we would expect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSWWPugD4Tc

Andertons (the shop responsible for the video) is one of my go to places when sourcing out stuff. The videos are generally pretty good, and depending on who does them can be funny too. This one is basically just a good demo in my opinion. 

This video is probably the best available at the present time for people who want to know how the S1 Pro sounds compared to a Compact. I'm not speaking directly to DJ's here (who tend just to use the Bose gear as powered speakers and the demo is with guitar and vocals) but to singer/songwriters etc who are looking for a complete solution for smaller or more intimate gigs where they don't need the power of larger systems.

The Demo really does show how plug and play the S1 Pro is, and with the optional battery (it would have been nice to have had it as part of the main package and not as an extra) a real option for buskers.

Tony 

I purchased my first Bose speakers without demoing them. I had heard the L1's at a solo gig. I was impressed but I wanted a bit of reverb without adding any more gadgets. I saw that the S1 had a reverb control and bought 2 of them. I got them on Friday. 1 speaker had a bad volume control on channel 2. It made a horrible popping sound whenever I touched the volume control. Oh well stuff happens. They shipped me a new one overnight. I got it the next day.  I had a gig the same night I got my new S1's (one broken) with another musician. ( first time performance with him). Never practiced with him. Last minute thing. Anyway, he had a lot of equipment. Guitar, keyboard, monitors, powered mixer, big speakers, etc. I decided to try using just 1 Bose S1 with my acoustic guitar and vocals. The room was pretty big, Maybe fit 100 people and then there was a bar on the the other side of the wall, There was 1 open doorway from room to room and the bartender could bartend for either room from behind the counters, so that portion was also open between the 2 rooms. I set my S1 on a speaker stand behind me. The other musician had his stuff all set up. I adjusted my volumes to match his. 1 little 15 pound speaker cut through all of his equipment just fine (but close to maxed out). After the gig I went into the bar area and showed everyone at the bar my S1, asked to get everyone's attention. I then asked them if they could hear both musicians equally and everybody said yes it sounded great. Shocked looks from everyone!

 I doubt that I could use this speaker to get over my volume crazy band members in a full band setting, but at this gig with plenty of volume for country, old rock,  and one other musician this speaker was amazing. For me, Vocals and acoustic guitar sound exactly the way I think they should sound. Mic was just your standard SM58 and guitar was a Yamaha A3R. 

  All I can say is that I carried in a guitar, a mic, and a 15lb. speaker to do a gig while the other musician busted his rear end to set up all his heavy stuff. I was thrilled with the weight to performance quality ratio, if you will. 

     The only thing negative, If I really had to give a negative, is that I also own 2 QSC K10's. They were about the same price but much more powerful. They also sound awesome and are more versitile for handling all kinds of instruments, but they weigh about 35 lbs each and you need to add reverb by mixer or pedal or something, so you have more items to bring and they are heavier. They will work with a full band, so be sure of what you are looking for. If you are a soloist or just want to have 2 maybe 3 people doing acoustic or softish music and want to be as streamlined as possible, go with these Bose S1's in my humble opinion.

I just bought S1 pro unit, and have not had it long enough to form a strong feeling in one direction or the other. First the unit sounds the same plugged in or in battery mode. A plus. Compact and solidly built.  A plus. The Auto EQ is an issue the mids have been eliminated and tilt seems to be the worst culprit  check this video out: https://video.search.yahoo.com...MyBGFjdG4DY2xrBGJjaw 

listen to bose sponsored video, listen to the mic the vocal, - sounds like they pulled out the mids left it nasally and tunnelish. 

https://video.search.yahoo.com...1ba3&action=view

I am assuming Bose can update the software.

For gigging about unofficially ( natural sound unimportant )  the S1 is fine but the elimination of mids has erased natural mids and is difficult to get around.

 

 

Hi CCC,

I would like to add my opinion. 

I have watched most of the videos, especially those that offered an actual demo of the speaker in operation. In most, we have no idea what equipment was used to record, how the various values were set, the brand and model of mic, or guitar, or pickup, etc. etc. That combined with the various possibilities of computer speakers and we really have no idea exactly what the S1 might sound like in our home or venue. 

In my personal experience so far, the only place the S1 is lacking is the very bottom end that would normally be provided by a bass module or sub of some sort.

In another thread you suggested that the Bose presets are the typical "smiley face" eq curve. ............. I have, on two separate occasions, observed Cliff Hendricksen creating Bose presets and I assure you they are not typical "smiley face" curves.

Cliff used two high end 1/3 octave, 31 band equalizers in series to create analog presets which were then digitized and saved to be utilized by the consumer. Cliff is widely recognized for his critical, musical ear and he very carefully listened to vocals / mics, instruments, etc. while simultaneously matching their natural sound to the output of the L1 speakers.

As all vocals, mics, instruments are not equal, not every one will be a perfect match for a particular preset, however, if the preset is chosen and the variable values are set flat, the user should have a very natural response from the speaker that can then be adjusted to suit personal taste.

I was a bit underwhelmed by the S1 my first hour or two of use. I think that I was missing the wider dispersion of the other L1 systems and perhaps the physical positioning of user to speaker is more critical with the S1. I have since developed a very positive liking for the speaker. I have not used it for gigging at this point, but it is absolutely the best practice system I have ever used. For gigs where space and capacity are appropriate I think it will serve admirably as a small PA. 

O..

when listening or watching any music, aren't you at the mercy of the recording device and the device you choose to play it on anyway?

    Nothing you hear online is going to be "real". This not really an answer to your question but I don't see how it is relavent. 

    I posted my first ever "post" right here, on my first gig expereince with the S1. I went straight to the S1 with an sm58 and a yamaha A3R acoustic guitar and loved it, but that doesn't mean that every ear hears exactly what I hear. The one thing that I am sure of is that, for it's weight and therefore ease of setup, This little speaker is amazing. It is small. It isn't the most powerful speaker for high volumes. It just works great in it's niche. You can't have everything for every venue in this little gem. You just need to know when, where, how, and then if it fits your specific needs.

Highest quality for the most streamlined equipment is what you get. It is more important that an individual is honest with themselves about what they "want" to use their equipment for and how many gadgets you want to haul around and then go for the highest quality within those perameters. For me, these speakers win me over with quality of sound in a super light weight package and it has it's own reverb control so I can leave my mixer at home, if going solo. Keep it simple!

 

 

Rick W posted:
For me, these speakers win me over with quality of sound in a super light weight package and it has it's own reverb control so I can leave my mixer at home, if going solo. Keep it simple!

 

 

Agree. And for me, the light-weight battery-power sets it above its competitors.

  I bought this unit because of Bose's reputation for excellence, but this unit has some bugs. I don't have noisy pods / zipper noises, but I do have a mic issue with no sound at all under the halfway  point when switched to mic position. I will again repeat that I expect excellence from Bose and hope the bugs are all worked out before production. I am not trying to deface Bose or offend the glee club. Bose needs to hear user issues along with the praises. I bought this unit knowing that the mid notching feedback  was automatic, and lacked the warmth of other brands and understood this Bose model has a limited frequency range due to the shear physics of its size. I am not concerned about it being the loudest little box I am concerned that all features work as it should. Bluetooth, tonematch and volume pods... ... ... 

My first set of audio speakers were the Bose 901s been a Bose fan for a long time and have recommended Bose products to many. Is the S1 the best  battery system out there I don't know, is it the loudest, no it is not, is it the most pleasant to the ear that depends on the person, is it a good practiced amp you bet. I need a rugged light quality very portable pa that operates on batteries.  I need to rely on this unit and trust all features will work, and it sounds good both inside and out. So I will address what appears to be issues here on this forum and with Bose tech because maybe there are answers to my issues someone else has knowledge of. At this moment my favorite performance amp is the Era 2 and it can not be compared to the L1 or S1 it is a different beast altogether and so is its price tag, but that personal like may change.

 

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  I bought this unit because of Bose's reputation for excellence, but this unit has some bugs. I don't have noisy pods / zipper noises, but I do have a mic issue with no sound at all under the halfway  point when switched to mic position. I will again repeat that I expect excellence from Bose and hope the bugs are all worked out before production. I am not trying to deface Bose or offend the glee club. Bose needs to hear user issues along with the praises. I bought this unit knowing that the mid notching feedback  was automatic, and lacked the warmth of other brands and understood this Bose model has a limited frequency range due to the shear physics of its size. I am not concerned about it being the loudest little box I am concerned that all features work as it should. Bluetooth, tonematch and volume pods... ... ... 

Yes. The mic volume is a bit weak as compared to my guitar pickups.I agree, but I thought it sounded great and I still got the volume up to where I needed it. I do sing with a lot of power so maybe it isn't good enough for people who aren't almost yelling. Everybody is different, but I did notice that my SM58 needed more on the volume knob and other than hearing L1's at solo acts, I have no prior experience with bose products. I would like my mic volume to be more equal to my pickup volumes. 

My problem with the mic is that no sound what - so - ever comes out under the half way mark. It is like the halfway mark is the 1 position. Is this a normal thing ?  58 is dynamic, weak, still does not address the issue of zero to six no sound.-  6 to 12 are active.

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