Discussions about the new Bose S1 Pro

Bose S1 Pro

Designed for musicians, DJs and general PA use, the S1 Pro is the ultimate all-in-one PA, floor monitor and practice amplifier that's ready to be your go-anywhere Bluetooth music system for nearly any occasion. 

This is the place to discuss the S1 Pro system.

Bose S1 Pro System

My initial impressions:

It's very small and cute.

It's very punchy and easily as loud as the Compact at my normal settings.

It's smoother in the low mids and less crispy than the Compact although it has plenty of highs.

The reverb is usable - seems to be a smaller room reverb at low settings and progresses to a larger hall (might just be my ears compensating for the decay as it gets quieter.)

The EQ when it's on a stand is really bass boosted as you would expect.

I may be able to use it on the floor tilted back in the busker configuration for some gigs.

Overall a very nice piece of gear with great flexibility!

I used the S1 at my gig tonight. I started with it in the tilted-back floor configuration which was pretty muddy and prone to low-end feedback on the guitar. I then put it on a stand which really brought it to life. I had it next to a Compact and switched between the two every few songs. I preferred the guitar through the S1 and the vocal through the Compact overall. The voice just sounded more alive through the Compact, but the guitar sounded bigger through the S1. The S1 is plenty loud and has good low end and crisp highs. The reverb is a hall reverb which is much bigger than I prefer. I like the small room and the plate on the T1. I think the S1 could stand in for the Compact at almost all my gigs. I’m not crazy about carrying a stand, and I have a smaller stand on order which I hope will be less to carry than the standard Ultimate Support stand I used tonight. 

Thanks, Tom, for the actual "boots on the ground" review! Always better to know how something is going to do in the "real world" of performing. I have an AER Compact 60 that is a terrific little amp, but these S1 units are quite enticing, even though it would get very little use from my current gigging schedule!

Can't wait to hear one of these little guys... is there a way to use the T1 with this amp (obviously with an ac adaptor)? I will use my T1 with the AER if the requirements call for both 6 and 12 string guitar and vocal, just for the ease of switching between guitars...

Funny, as much as I like the sound of that AER, I would always rather use my L1 Model II... if the S1 has that "Bose sound", I might have to do some equipment shuffling so I can get one.

 

Thanks again for the review!

John Seth

 

 

 

Hi Tom,

I hope you're keeping well.

Nice hands on review. It could help many in their search for something small and apparently really good sounding.

Regarding the loudspeaker stand. I just bought one from K+M for use with my Hughes + Kettner Era1 (Model number K&M 21455). It's not as high as "normal" loudspeaker stands and can be set lower. 

Height adjustable from roughly 40" to 61" (1005mm to 1545mm) with the 35mm pole diameter for the loudspeaker. It weighs in at 3.3 kilos (just over 7 pounds and can support 40 kilos (nearly 90 pounds).

 

It's not cheap, but it's professional standard and I'm very happy with it.

I hope this helps.

Tony

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Tom, when you wrote this

Tom Munch posted:

I used the S1 at my gig tonight. I started with it in the tilted-back floor configuration which was pretty muddy and prone to low-end feedback on the guitar. I then put it on a stand which really brought it to life. I had it next to a Compact and switched between the two every few songs. I preferred the guitar through the S1 and the vocal through the Compact overall. The voice just sounded more alive through the Compact, but the guitar sounded bigger through the S1. The S1 is plenty loud and has good low end and crisp highs. The reverb is a hall reverb which is much bigger than I prefer. I like the small room and the plate on the T1. I think the S1 could stand in for the Compact at almost all my gigs. I’m not crazy about carrying a stand, and I have a smaller stand on order which I hope will be less to carry than the standard Ultimate Support stand I used tonight. 

Could it have anything to do with the fact that it was on a stand so that the larger speakers were more at ear-level than the Compact? Maybe you could place the Compact on a table and compare the two that way?

Just a thought.

Tony

John Seth posted:

Thanks, Tom, for the actual "boots on the ground" review! Always better to know how something is going to do in the "real world" of performing. I have an AER Compact 60 that is a terrific little amp, but these S1 units are quite enticing, even though it would get very little use from my current gigging schedule!

Can't wait to hear one of these little guys... is there a way to use the T1 with this amp (obviously with an ac adaptor)? I will use my T1 with the AER if the requirements call for both 6 and 12 string guitar and vocal, just for the ease of switching between guitars...

Funny, as much as I like the sound of that AER, I would always rather use my L1 Model II... if the S1 has that "Bose sound", I might have to do some equipment shuffling so I can get one.

 

Thanks again for the review!

John Seth

 

 

 

You’re welcome, John. You would use the T1 just like using it with the Compact or any other amp - with the AC adaptor. There’s no Ethernet port like the Model II. 

Seagullman posted:

Hi Tom,

I hope you're keeping well.

Nice hands on review. It could help many in their search for something small and apparently really good sounding.

Regarding the loudspeaker stand. I just bought one from K+M for use with my Hughes + Kettner Era1 (Model number K&M 21455). It's not as high as "normal" loudspeaker stands and can be set lower. 

Height adjustable from roughly 40" to 61" (1005mm to 1545mm) with the 35mm pole diameter for the loudspeaker. It weighs in at 3.3 kilos (just over 7 pounds and can support 40 kilos (nearly 90 pounds).

 

It's not cheap, but it's professional standard and I'm very happy with it.

I hope this helps.

Tony

That would work. I ordered a cheaper OnStage stand that will probably be no more than head height if I extend the base past horizontal. It specs at 28”-49”. A42A392F-4666-4E41-9D1F-91ED73EC8099

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Seagullman posted:

Tom, when you wrote this

Tom Munch posted:

I used the S1 at my gig tonight. I started with it in the tilted-back floor configuration which was pretty muddy and prone to low-end feedback on the guitar. I then put it on a stand which really brought it to life. I had it next to a Compact and switched between the two every few songs. I preferred the guitar through the S1 and the vocal through the Compact overall. The voice just sounded more alive through the Compact, but the guitar sounded bigger through the S1. The S1 is plenty loud and has good low end and crisp highs. The reverb is a hall reverb which is much bigger than I prefer. I like the small room and the plate on the T1. I think the S1 could stand in for the Compact at almost all my gigs. I’m not crazy about carrying a stand, and I have a smaller stand on order which I hope will be less to carry than the standard Ultimate Support stand I used tonight. 

Could it have anything to do with the fact that it was on a stand so that the larger speakers were more at ear-level than the Compact? Maybe you could place the Compact on a table and compare the two that way?

Just a thought.

Tony

I need to look at the EQ curve on the busker configuration. I’m guessing it would be less muddy sounding on a hard reflective surface. 

@Tom Munch

here are a couple of photos (3 actually) I've just taken for you.

The Guitar is leaning against the stand and is a Taylor GS-mini so you'll be able to get a good idea how low/high the stand can get.

Here in the lowest position

Here in the highest position.

And here folded for transport

The thing on the left side is the locking pin. The stand can be extended twice at even intervals.

Tony

In the photos the stand is no higher than just under the base horizontal.

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Seagullman posted:

@Tom Munch

here are a couple of photos (3 actually) I've just taken for you.

The Guitar is leaning against the stand and is a Taylor GS-mini so you'll be able to get a good idea how low/high the stand can get.

Here in the lowest position

Here in the highest position.

And here folded for transport

The thing on the left side is the locking pin. The stand can be extended twice at even intervals.

Tony

In the photos the stand is no higher than just under the base horizontal.

Looks a little taller than the one I ordered. 

I'll write up a more extensive review after this weekend's acoustic solo gigs, but last night I used it with my 3 piece band as a monitor for my bass player.

The setup was a little unusual for us, as the stage is almost 4 1/2 high, so I placed the Fishman SA330x close to the side of me using it as FOH and as a monitor for myself.  Just vocals were going through it.

The Bass Player plays through a Quilter Bass Block 800 and I was using a prototype Quilter Guitar Amp.  The Drummer didn't need to be mic'd.

I set the drummer up with a mic stand mounted TC Helicon VoiceSolo 150FX and put the Bose S1 in front of and to the left of the Bass player's mic stand (he uses a Beta 58A, so I placed the S1 in the "dead spot" of the mic's pickup pattern.

Anyway, long story short (too late!)... the S1 worked like a champ, more than keeping up with the antics of the band and the volume of the amps.  Granted we aren't some headbanging supercharged over the top volume to 11 type of band, but we did have some stage volume.  His comment was that it sounded better than the L3t we had been using and that it was almost like "having headphones on" since he could hear everything (the vocals/harmonies) so clearly.  Based on this experience, I know it will work at some of the venues where there is a real tight setup space and a good amount of patrons...

Well, that's it for now... As I mentioned, after this weekends gigs (and attending NAMM today and Sunday), I'll write a more extensive review...

Hope this helps...

The S1 is a great design. I love the look and the possibilities. This may bring more Bose exposure to the public than any thing else in this portable pro series.

Now, Imagine it with a 10 inch woofer (or B1 capability regardless of size) and 5 or 6 of the small transducers and the array being removable with extensions ala Compact, same S1 shape, multiple setup positions, keep the pole mount and 4 channels with blue tooth, phantom power and a ToneMatch port. No Battery on this one.

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Seagullman posted:

Thanks for the photos Tom. The S1 is clearly smaller than a Compact.

Regarding the Stand. I don't generally go higher than the Base Horizontal with tripods because it makes the footprint smaller and therefore affects the stability.

Tony

Yes, it does make the footprint smaller which is less stable. I’m sure it’s not wise, but I do it sometimes when I need the height and the situation seems safe enough. 

& two more models for electric & bass guitars , named S1-EG. & S1-B. , with the  power amps. A1 engine  inside . Guitar speaker it's good to be stereo with M-S (one point stereo) system. It means one body speaker stereo system , when connected external stereo guitar efx., board, to have a full stereo ambient, or even when is using internal reverb. Because sometimes is strange in good engine , to have mono reverb , to immitate ambient reflections...  To make this happen faster, I can design the pre-design for this. Sorry my English ..., I think everybody will understand .

jdbassentertainment.com posted:

BTW just found out Bose will be offering an official S1 backpack that has extra space for cables and a small mixer. Not sure if it's padded though? ? 

Just saw it at NAMM...  Yes it's padded and has room for cords and a small mixer (nothing wider than the S1).  Very nice looking.  The Bose rep told  me that it would be available in about a month... Sorry, forgot to snap a picture...

I just finished a casino bar gig.   Bar is located in between two restaurants and my back is to the walkway and Casino slot machines...  yup,  loud environment...

Gotta tell you though,  the S1 worked great - loud enough to get over the slots... in fact one person came over while I was packing up and stayed help had been at the slot machine for the last couple of hours (behind me)  and thoroughly enjoyed the music...

Here are a few pics...  I'll write yoo a more comprehensive review in their next couple days...20180127_19013920180127_19014820180127_18432120180127_184313

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Hi John,

Long time no see!

JohnL posted:

Is there an option for an external battery charger? So the ability to swap out a spare battery quickly is also available?

Not at this time. Nothing planned. But you can charge the battery while using the system. That doesn't really address the swap-out-a-spare scenario unless you make sure both your first and second batteries are charged before going to the gig.

Good to see you,

ST

Hi ST,

Ya, it's been a while for me. Just got curious about the new S1 Pro. I really love the battery aspect of it. I'm still looking for a decent inverter that I can use for the L1C that can run at least 4 hours at moderately high volumes. I may skip the S1 Pro if I can find such an inverter/battery combo that's easy to lug around.

JohnL posted:

I'm still looking for a decent inverter that I can use for the L1C that can run at least 4 hours at moderately high volumes. I may skip the S1 Pro if I can find such an inverter/battery combo that's easy to lug around.

Have you tried a car jump start battery pack?  Most have inverters.  I don't know if they provide enough watts or how long they'd last, but I've seen it done with solid state guitar and bass amps.

 

Hi KingBiscuit,

Haven't tried the car jump start packs yet, I'm a bit hesitant to do so as they may damage the L1C. I don't know how clean their power output is and I've had a bad experience with (granted it was the older model) the PAS and a voltage drop in an old building that completely fried the main board ($800 repair bill)

I'm looking at some of the Li-Ion emergency power banks that have 200W 120v AC outlets and wondering how long those could really power the L1C at half volume. Some of them have 50Ah of battery power and if the L1C draws 6Ah, then that's a good 7+ hours. Power specs aren't so clear though, because if that's 50Ah at 12v, not at 120V then I've barely got enough for a full hour.

If it's clean power you want the you need to buy a pure sinewave inverter.  There are lots of them on the market.  Figure out how many watts you need, go slightly larger, buy it.

 

Hook it to any 12V battery and you're off.  The batteries can be Lion or lead acid.  Either will work.  How long you can run depends on battery capacity.  Of course lion batteries are lighter and can be discharged deeper.  They also hold their voltage to the end.   The trade off is they're expensive.

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