Here is some information about preset 58.

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Originally posted by MikeZ-at-Bose:

Preset 58 now exists as an official preset.

Preset 58 is going to be in the new set of presets that will be shipped with the updated L1(tm) model I system...in preset slot #58 :-)

It will also be in the T1(tm) as 'High Volume Music'.

For current owner's, in the past we have posted some new presets and how to get them on the website. I will be able to say for sure very soon how to get the preset onto your L1(tm) Classic system.

Preset 57 is optimized for low volume music. The low bass is boosted to better match the physics/psychoacoustics of our own auditory system.

Preset 58 is optimized for higher volume music. Some of the bass is boosted and some of the upper mids are reduced to have a more natural sound at these higher volumes.

Thank you for your patience,
MikeZ




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Jeremy I just recently did the same with much satisfaction. I run OTS DJ and it has its own presets.I ran the DJ preset and totally Liked the result. I have used this program since turning to computerized music. I still am learning, but I think Ill be using the OTS presets. I have also been pleased with the headset preset on the Bose 02 in addition to this!!! Cap it cant be that hard to make paragraghs in here , but Im failing misserably!!! AGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!
I just helped a brand new BOSE L1 Model 1 user set up his system for both a lunchbox and a CD system.

Everything went wonderfully EXCEPT for the audible differentiation between presets 00-57-58.

Preset 00 was perfect. Preset 57 gave a nice smack to the low end, even at higher volumes (though the high ends were a tad shrill yet nowhere near as harsh as the Model Classics).

Preset 58? Could not tell the difference between it and 00 (on either power stand and either system). It was like it wasn't there.

The field trial version of 58 was +6db. 57 is allegedly +1.5db. Has that changed?

What is 58? If there's no immediately recognizeable difference between 00 and 58, is there a possibility of another problem such as it was not properly installed at the factory level?
Going out on a huge limb! If I've overstepped any bounds, please, someone @ BOSE delete this posting immediately.

Many many months ago, there was a field trial for two new presets for the Classic Models.

With the introduction of the Model I, one of those presets (58) is allegedly already included in the production.

I've heard it. It's nothing like the previous unreleased field trial version. To my ears, I hear no difference between it and 00.

The question being asked is not so much when will 58 be released to Classic owners, it is what's the difference between the field trial version 58 and the current production version 58?

Secondly, is 58 actually installed on the current Model I's and if yes, what levels of db gains can be revealed to us?

Lastly (really pushing the envelope), the last Preset Version for the Classic was Version 2.0 and then an update was performed to add 57. Are the Model I's still using Preset version 2.0 and have 57 and 58 added to it?
Dynamite DJs : Thanks for the confirmation that it's not just me.

Though not confirmed anywhere that I've seen, 57 is allegedly +1.5db low, flat mid, and +1.5db high. That's why, at high volume levels, 57 causes the sound to get as shrill as a traditional horn. It's the old traditional "smilie face" eq setting that adds punch and sparkle to low audio volume or poor recordings.

Though not a good idea to use 128kbs .mp3s, 57 does help overcome the terrible quality of those obliterated files.
I've been keeping mine on preset 57. What about weddings where the music is soft for the dinner hour and loud for dancing? I have found I don't like 00 during dinner, and once 57 is set there's not way to change it without interupting the music. I do use the remote to adjust the eq on the fly, but does anyone have a recommendation for the preset?
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Originally posted by Jimmie Malone:
I've been keeping mine on preset 57. What about weddings where the music is soft for the dinner hour and loud for dancing? I have found I don't like 00 during dinner, and once 57 is set there's not way to change it without interupting the music. I do use the remote to adjust the eq on the fly, but does anyone have a recommendation for the preset?
If you're using two L1s, have each power stand's Channel 1 at Preset 00 and Channel 2 at Preset 57. Transfer the XLR cable out of Channel 1 and zap into Channel 2, on the fly. The only drop out is the time it takes to swap channels and that itsy bitsy split second system protection drop out.

Sometimes, running one L1 at 00 and the other at 57 gives a very nice balance to some rooms.
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Originally posted by Cap Capello:
Transfer the XLR cable out of Channel 1 and zap into Channel 2, on the fly. The only drop out is the time it takes to swap channels and that itsy bitsy split second system protection drop out.


But if you are quick with your fingers, you can change from 57 back down to 00 just as quick.

I tried it one time.
Not that big of a deal.
As long as you are running 2 L1s...so then you barely notice a dropout because the other one is still playing.
Here is a simple suggestion.

If you want to switch to from 57 to 00, just switch it to 58. Any preset that is empty is actually flat (and equivalent to 00).

So if you don't have preset 58 installed (and unless you KNOW that you do, let's assume that you don't), then you can use 58 when you want 00.

That's a whole lot less button pushing and a lot faster. With a little practice you can probably learn to do that in the dark.

When you eventually get 58, you will be well versed in switching back and forth.
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Originally posted by J.G.Nelson:
Nice light Brian, Is that a "kroma"? Bet it sounds good with the L1 in a dark room lol.


ha!
I don't know what that is...other than it being a flashlight. I just found that pic on the web when searching for "flashlight pictures"

Didn't even notice the LED action going on inside of it.
Has this issue been cleared up?

HAS ANYONE FED THEIR L1'S (pink noise?)

This will tell you on an RTA if in fact if flat, is flat. Next turn off the pink noise and grab a db meter set the RTA for the level you would normally run and watch your eq curve appear before your very eyes on the screen.

If you would like to toggle between presets could I suggest using a A/B box?
When we do large shows with more than one stage or FOH board we switch out mains very quickly just by switching to another drive rack or console. For this application a home unit used to be carried some years ago at Radio Shack that was rumored to be built by shure.

Now I have not had to crank my system up yet by any means but, I was very happy with the sytem set flat and just notched out a little here and there on the fly. I'm used to recalling eq curves saved into my equipment when I return to a venue I just look at my notes go to my eq and find that location BINGO there is my starting point. Just because the eq is set flat doesn't mean that the room is flat. It is very impressive to me how well this system responds just to channel eq alone with semi parametric eq.
Is there anyone doing karaoke that uses seperate subgroup outs on the board to send music to say channel one on the L1's and the mics to channel two so you aren't changing the sound of your mics or the sound of the music?

As usual I can't shut up, always curious/always tweaking.
Chris.
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Originally posted by Big Dog Karaoke:
...Is there anyone doing karaoke that uses seperate subgroup outs on the board to send music to say channel one on the L1's and the mics to channel two so you aren't changing the sound of your mics or the sound of the music?...

I always try to find a way to separate vocal mics from the other sound sources, and feed them through separate Presets/Channels. Doesn't matter what the occasion.

Using the proper Mic preset helps give good vocals and minimize feedback issues (if any are lurking in the room).
Ok, thanks for the reply. as far as feedback goes I had a speaker (guest) standing in front of the speaker (radiator) on Saturday night and I didn't take my eye off of them for more than .007/sec and the next thing you know the ball of the mic was about 1/2" away from the grille on the left L1.
Normally you would have a sound simalar to what a cat makes when a 5 year old is trying to shove it into a toilet (don't try this @ home kids) but it never squeaked and I didn't give it a chance to start a loop. Chaulk it up to what you will good gain stage, flat eq whatever all I can say is the EON system I used to use didn't like to be around the shiny round end of a mic without a little gate.

I didn't have the system wide open but it was loud enough that i'm shocked that nothing happened.

I'm already planning my next purchase.


Chris.
DJ’s,

We are working on posting Presets 3.0 (which includes Preset 58) on the message board for download by the end of the month.

Thank you for your patience.

Note - for those with a T1, preset 58 is 'High Volume Music' in the DJ/Playback category. For those with model I's, preset is 58 is, well, preset 58 :-)

Thanks again,
-MikeZ
MikeZ: What does
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For those with model I's, preset is 58 is, well, preset 58 :-)
mean?

I've listened to six Model I's and put them on preset 58 and heard no change from 00.

Is 58 a working preset on all the current L1 Model Is and when does it kick in in terms of volume level?

[EDITED: Revised to remove unintended adversarily tone.]
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Originally posted by Cap Capello:
MikeZ: What does
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For those with model I's, preset is 58 is, well, preset 58 :-)

mean?

I've listened to six Model I's and put them on preset 58 and heard no change from 00.

Is 58 a working preset on all the current L1 Model Is and when does it kick in in terms of volume level?


58 is and should be a working preset on the model I (the ones with orange markings). It should be active at all volume levels.

This is the first I have heard of this. When I get in this morning I will check it out and report back.

MikeZ
MikeZ-at-Bose : Thank you for checking.

Where are the orange markings you're speaking of? Does this suggest there might be two separate releases of the Model I?

Also, another question please. Is the new Preset 58 the same as the field trial preset 58 (+6db) or the field trial preset 59 (+3db) or something different altogether?
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Originally posted by Cap Capello:
MikeZ-at-Bose : Thank you for checking.

Where are the orange markings you're speaking of? Does this suggest there might be two separate releases of the Model I?


There are 3 breeds of L1's in the field:
1.) L1 Classic. These are the L1's released in 2003 and sold until about 3/2007.
2.) L1 model I. Newer version of the Classic. Is RoHS compliant for release in Europe but functionally basically the same. Distinguishing features include orange labels on the back of the power stand and on the line arrays. Also many of the accessory connectors have been removed on the back panel. These units have Presets 3.0 with preset 58 on them.
3.) L1 model II.

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Also, another question please. Is the new Preset 58 the same as the field trial preset 58 (+6db) or the field trial preset 59 (+3db) or something different altogether?


58 is the original field test version of 58...the 6db version.

MikeZ

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