Tagged With "S1"

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Power loss/falure

Cougar Love Trio ·
Hello, last night we played a very small venue and decided to use our L1 Model S1 tower with our B-2 base and Mackie 16 channel mixer. We have 3 58's for vocals, two acoustic guitars and one mic in the cajon. The sound was perfect as usual (we typically add our Model 2 to this). After about one hour the sound dropped off. We turned off the power at the base unit (the light was still on) and we re-ran the extension cords to another wall plug. Turned it back on and played for about another 45...
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Re: Power loss/falure

ST ·
Hi Michael, Thank you for joining the Bose Pro Portable PA Community. I'm sorry you had a problem with your L1® Model 1S. You mentioned extension cords. Normally you want to use the shortest extension cord possible - if you have to use extension cords at all. What you've described could be a result of unreliable power and it sounds like you suspected that. Still, I think you should call Bose Support on Tuesday for help diagnosing this further. Bose® Product & Technical Support at (877)...
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Re: S1 Pro Busking Power Questions

ST ·
Hi Tom, Let's ask @Seagullman to check our math. I'm sure he (Tony) will know if we've done it right. ST
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Re: S1 Pro Busking Power Questions

ST ·
Hi MusicmanThomas, Infinity Looper: 18 volts DC - 1.0 Amps Helicon Chorus Pedal: 9 volts DC - 100 ma Pigtronix Inifinity Looper: 18 volts - 300 ma Helicon Mic Looper: 12 volts - 400 ma T1 Tonematch: 18 volts - 1.0 Amps This looks like about 140 Watts (at 120 Volts). Allowing for inefficiencies, I'd budget for 300 Watts. Looking at this another way, I normally budget 100 Watts for a T1 alone. So your list should be about somewhere between 200-300 Watts. ST
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Re: S1 Pro Busking Power Questions

Musicianthomas ·
Thanks so much ST! You've saved me and helped me more than several times over these years. Don't know what you are paid for what you do where you do it....but it isn't near enough! The portable generator unit I have coming is rated 500 watts and is rated 288 Watt Hours. If I've done the calculations correctly, this means I should get about 2 hours, perhaps more from a full charge using the devices I mentioned. Was hoping for 3, but worse case scenario will be to buy a second portable just...
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Re: S1 Pro Busking Power Questions

Seagullman ·
Hi Tom, ST, OK first of all thanks for the trust you're putting in my knowledge here. So when I was at school and also during apprenticeships etc. one of the main formulas we learned was P = U x I whereby; P is the electrical power given im Watts (W) U is the voltage given in Volts (V) I is the current given in Amps (A) Let's put this formula to work in connection to Tom's gear using the information you've given. 1) Infinity Looper: 18 volts DC - 1.0 Amps 2) Helicon Chorus Pedal: 9 volts DC...
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Re: S1 Pro Busking Power Questions

Seagullman ·
Hi Tom, I'm hoping that I haven't made any elementary mistakes in my thinking and calculating. I can't see any but you never know. I'm looking forward to reading about your "test-driving" of the system under battery power. One Question Tom. The Infinity Looper (18V, 1A) I can't seem to find anywhere and I'm not familiar with it. At 18W that's a lot of power too. What does it do? Thanks for any information you can give me here to still my curiosity. Tony
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Re: S1 Pro Busking Power Questions

Musicianthomas ·
Tony, This is magnificent and I'm ever grateful for your help and input. And thank you for noticing my error in the list not including the VoiceLive 3 Extreme unit. Don't know how I missed that! This is assuring to me that the portable generator rated 500 watts/288 WH (watt hours ) will likely get me through most all gigs. Rarely would I go any more than four hours and most are three or under. But the bottom line for me will be in fully charging both the generator and the New S1Pro and then...
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Re: S1 Pro Busking Power Questions

Seagullman ·
Hi ST, First let me say that I based my Calculations on the values given by Tom. As MattS-at-Bose pointed out Volts times Amps is Watts which is what I also said P = U x I (Watts = Volts times Amps). Fo far so good. As Bose doesn't part with knowledge regarding circuitry etc. I can't say anything regarding the actual power consumption of the units. I can only be theoretical here. Now let's look at the T1 Power Supply specs (your pic). Input: AC (alternating current) 100 - 240V AC 50 - 60Hz...
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Re: S1 Pro Busking Power Questions

ST ·
Hi Tony, Thanks for joining the conversation. Here's the basis of my thinking for the T1® Assuming similar consumption for the Infinity Looper, this is why I guestimated at over 200 Watts. Cheers, ST
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Just Received my S1 Pro

sparkysings ·
I'm a happy Bose user. I do 20+ solo gigs a month with acoustic guitar and vocals and use a Plat Acoustic for some vocal harmonies I'm in my 5th year and started off with the AER Compact 60 on a microphone stand and loved it. It sounded natural, clear and carried surprisingly well with lots of power. About 2 years in I had an opportunity to pick up a L1 Compact at a good price and started using that. I hated the preset and found it was really hard to dial in a good sound, so I had to use an...
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Re: Just Received my S1 Pro

ST ·
Hi Sparkysings, Thank you for joining the Bose Pro Portable Community and congratulations on getting your S1 Pro. I appreciate getting to know you through your history. You're all set for Bose gear aren't you. Thanks for the sound review with your Martin OM-28 Marquis and a Collings OM1. What kind of microphone are you using? Sure, gain is gain anywhere in the chain. As long as you're not clipping the input on the S1 Pro, you should be fine. ST
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Re: Just Received my S1 Pro

sparkysings ·
I'm using a Heil PR35 microphone and have for about 7-8 years.
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S1 Pro Busking Power Questions

Musicianthomas ·
My good news is that I have an S1 Pro & Battery on the way today!! The better news is that it is a gift! So I will definitely be taking it out, reviewing, and putting it through more than several situations outside, inside, small venue gigs, etc. My question has to do with busking power sources. I want to be able to use my Infinity Looper, TC Helicon Mic Looper, TC Helicon Chorus pedal, VoiceLive 3 Extreme, and The T1 Tonematch just as I do in my shows with the L1 Model 2 /B2 Module and...
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Re: S1 Pro Busking Power Questions

Musicianthomas ·
Wow Guys! What an additional education I'm getting just from being a musician! I did my calculations from the output numbers and not the input numbers which did not seem like it was high enough. Since your replies, to double check I went to the Pigtronix website and got the specs directly from there. I think I made a mistake with it as the site shows it as: Voltage: 18V DC Current Draw: 200mA @ 18V Current Draw....since that is what I'm really after I think, is MUCH less and I wouldn't have...
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What microphone are you using with your S1 Pro system?

ST ·
The S1 Pro system channels 1 and 2 have ToneMatch® Presets for guitar and microphone. What microphone are you using with your S1 Pro? Are you using the ToneMatch® Preset for microphone? How do you like it? Thanks, ST
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Re: Just Received my S1 Pro

ST ·
Hi SparkySings, Thanks for telling us about your microphone. Given your choice in guitars I imagined you to have a discerning ear. Is it fair to say that you're happy with the Heil PR35 through the ToneMatch Preset on the S1 Pro? Please tell us about it here: What microphone are you using with your S1 Pro system? Thanks, ST
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Re: What microphone are you using with your S1 Pro system?

ST ·
Hi! So far I've used Beyerdynamic M88 N(c) ( hypercardioid ) EV N/D 767 a (supercardioid) The Beyerdynamic is smooth and articulate and works well right up to the limit of the S1 Pro. The EV N/D 767a is smooth in the low and mid ranges. I found it slightly accentuated in the top end. Not bad for my voice, just a touch bright. I think this would punch through better in a noisy space than the Beyerdynamic. Both were extremely well behaved with respect to feedback. ST
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Re: Just Received my S1 Pro

sparkysings ·
I'm still tweaking it, but it sounds excellent either with the preset, or flat and adjusting the EQ. I have a month off due to some surgery which gives me ample opportunity to experiment. I'm going to see what it sounds like with the T1, but in a sense that defeats the ultra portability of the S1 Pro. But, curiosity...... On another note, I tried the Loudbox Mini Charge just to see how it compared and although the Mini sounded good, it didn't have the rich vocal and natural guitar sound of...
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Re: S1 Pro on a wall stand

ST ·
Hey J.D. Puente, I couldn't stand the suspense. I called L&M the retail arm of Yorkville Sound to find out how long the vertical pole piece is. I was curious to know if it was long enough to reach the EQ switch inside the pole cup and if you'd have enough clearance to swivel it around. The fellow at L&M ran off to measure it. He said the pole length down to where it meets the horizontal bracket is 5 inches. Check it out when you get your S1 Pro. It looks like you only need about 4.5...
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Re: S1 Pro Backpack preview

Musicianthomas ·
Thanks for this ST! I've been wondering what it looks like. If it's really padded well, which I think it would be, I've got to have one. I did the unboxing (and made a video I will edit and upload later) of the S1 Pro and while the slip cover.. well it covers....that's about it. No protection at all for the control panel etc. So this is a definite must! Same with the B2 Bass Module. Nicely done but no real protection. Tiki Covers made the very nice one for my B2, perhaps they will also make...
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Re: S1 Pro and the Tonematch

Musicianthomas ·
I agree Sparkysings! Just got my S1 Pro today and did a bare bones video review/unboxing. (will post after editing, etc) Out of the box, plugged in the wall.......Guitar and Mic straight into the S1 Pro and was really impressed, actually even more than I thought I would be. But after the bare bones, I hooked my T1 into it....OMGosh!.......Amazing...beyond what I thought possible. And the volume and gain before feedback was most impressive! If you have a T1, it's going to really sell you on...
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Re: What microphone are you using with your S1 Pro system?

Musicianthomas ·
I received my S1 Pro today and did a bare bones trial run. Guitar straight in, Mic straight in. I used my Helicon MP-75 that responded very well, nice lows and not to bright, but it made me crave my Neumann KMS105. I then used the T1 into the S1 Pro and Wow! Made my Neumann really pop to the front of the line. Unfortunately there is no Phantom Power on the S1 Pro, but there is on the T1, so I'm covered very well.
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Re: S1 Pro on a wall stand

J.D. Puente ·
Thanks ST.
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Re: Just Received my S1 Pro

DJ Polley ·
I logged 20+ hours on the S1 Pro this weekend. It did an excellent job for small venues. I use Shure SM58 mics for karaoke. I ran the system via Bluetooth and wireless mics. Sure was nice not to have any wires! This was a trial weekend and it passed the test and almost paid for itself.
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Re: What microphone are you using with your S1 Pro system?

Marcd158 ·
Me i use a shure sm58 , sound good ! Sm58 are very good in most situation
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S1 Pro and the Tonematch

sparkysings ·
As good as the S1 Pro sounds on it's own, I just did a thorough run through with T1 connected to the S1 Pro and it sounds fantastic. I thought I might save a few minutes in set up by going direct and still may do that for some jobs, but now that I've heard it with the T1......I'm sold!
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Re: What microphone are you using with your S1 Pro system?

ST ·
Quick update for the discussion. I just rummaged around the mic drawer. Both of these sounded good enough to use at a gig. Audix OM2 Audix OM3b Anybody else? ST
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Re: What microphone are you using with your S1 Pro system?

ST ·
Hi SparkySings You told us you're using your in this the S1 Pro system discussion . Please tell us more about this combination of the S1 Pro and the Heil PR35. Thanks, ST
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Re: S1 Pro on a wall stand

ST ·
Hey J.D. Puente, Check this out. It might be easier than trying to fabricate something. Found it on Amazon ST
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Re: S1 Pro and the Tonematch

ST ·
Hi SparkySings, That's great news. No less than I would have expected, so thanks for confirming. What Preset are you using for you Heil PR35? ST
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S1 Pro on a wall stand

J.D. Puente ·
I play a small steady gig and will be able to mount a speaker stand on the wall next to my guitar hanger.I just have to make or buy a 90 degree wall stand.It'll be sweet to be able to walk in and place the S1 on the wall stand out of the way.My S1 will be in tomorrow.yea
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Re: S1 Pro Busking Power Questions

Musicianthomas ·
Okay Guys...here is the first report. First, I'm amazed beyond what I thought I would be...and that was a lot to begin with! With battery in the S1 Pro and charged and the 500 watt/288 Watt Hour Chafon Pure Sine Wave Battery Power Generator everything has phenomenal sound. No hum, no noise of any kind. The volume is way more than enough for just about any small venue. I'm operating in my studio at only ¼ volume on the S1 Pro and it more than fills the room with nice rich lows and just the...
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S1 Pro while waiting for the Bose Backpack

ST ·
I noticed a funny coincidence. The dimensions of the S1 Pro are almost the same as the original Apple MacIntosh. S1 Pro system 13.0" H x 9.5" W x 11.2" D Wt 14.5 lbs $2,495 ($6,071-2018) MacIntosh 13.6" H x 9.6" W x 10.9" D Wt 16.5 pounds $599 It was a happy similarity for me. I have a great padded bag with carrying handle and shoulder strap. It'll do fine until the Bose S1 Pro Backpack is available. ST
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Re: S1 Pro and the Tonematch

sparkysings ·
I've tried and use several: the High Gain-Normal and KMS105. Both presets had to be adjusted to bring out the Heil's capabilities and sound. Now that I think of it, the reason I prefer the Heil's sound is it's very similar to that of the Bose systems; rich and full with a tight bottom end and crisp highs. It's very articulate and you can hear every word and nuance when singing. PS; I'm not used to being on the forum and hope this goes to a reply to ST's question.
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Re: S1 Pro and the Tonematch

ST ·
Thanks SparkySings, That's exactly what I needed to know! ST
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Re: Just Received my S1 Pro

sparkysings ·
That's a good workout. My shows usually last about an hour + set up etc. How did the battery perform?
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Re: S1 Pro Busking Power Questions

Seagullman ·
Hi Tom, thanks for this first impression of the functionality of the system so far. You've made no mention regarding how long your trial run was, but as you've said I expect that you'll be giving us all the information regarding power time, sound outside of a controlled environment (your studio) and with a decent gig volume etc. What will really be interesting me will be how long the S1 Pro batteries will last when used under a decent volume. I look forward to reading about that. For the...
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Re: S1 Pro while waiting for the Bose Backpack

Seagullman ·
Hi ST, you rarely fail to surprise me with what you manage to "find in dark corners" at home. This one reminds me of the oscilloscope case for your Kemper at the beginning. You appear to have switched from Macintosh to Windows at some time. Most people go in the other direction. Cheers from Germany Tony
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What are you plugging into your S1 Pro system

ST ·
Hi What are you plugging into your S1 Pro system? What do you hear? We've already got other discussions for Microphones your are using with the S1 Pro system S1 Pro system with Guitar Amp Modellers
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S1 Pro Reviews

jdbassentertainment.com ·
If you own a S1 Pro please post your reviews bellow! Many of us are needing more real world use information before we commit to buy... Pictures are welcome! Thanks in advance!!
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S1 Pro Compared to L1® Compact

ST ·
Here's an article in the Bose Pro Portable PA wiki S1 Pro Compared to L1® Compact Please post questions and comments here. ST
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Re: S1 Pro Backpack preview

ST ·
Hi JD, As soon as there are more details, I'll post them here. ST
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Re: S1 Pro Backpack preview

jdbassentertainment.com ·
Anyone know ETA of the S1 Pro backpack?
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Re: S1 Pro Backpack preview

jdbassentertainment.com ·
OK, thanks ST!
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Re: S1 Pro Compared to L1® Compact

ST ·
Hi Cuki79, The more informative specification is the SPL. That tells you how loud it is. 103 dB SPL (109 dB SPL peak). ST
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Re: S1 Pro Compared to L1® Compact

Cuki79 ·
A guy on the Bose Facebook page said it was 40W.... is it peak or RMS?
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Re: What are you plugging into your S1 Pro system

ST ·
I'll start. I've got a few big jazz boxes around here. They sound wonderful through the S1 Pro. Big, round, full, with just the right sweetness in the top end. Hint: Try your jazz guitar with the ToneMatch Preset off and roll off the bass a bit. The ToneMatch Preset for Acoustic Guitar rolls some low end and that is appropriate, but for my jazz guitars, that removes character. Turning off the Preset and roll off the bass and it's good. If you're close to the S1 Pro or playing at higher...
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Re: S1 Pro while waiting for the Bose Backpack

ST ·
Hi Tony, The case from a portable computer (same vintage as the MacIntosh) fits better. I prefer the vertical orientation. It's easier to get the S1 Pro in and out because the handle is on top. I've used this case and the one shown above for many different things over the years. I think the S1 Pro may be my favourite. ST
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Re: S1 Pro Compared to L1® Compact

Starvin ·
ST Thanks for this . I'm debating getting an L1 Compact or an S1 Pro and all this work you have done is a great help. Again Thanks. Rick
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