Tagged With "output"

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Outputting L1 Model II to house sound systems

hoohaa1 ·
Hi. I've been using my L1 Mode 2 for a few years now and love it. My only issues have always been in small spaces cranking the system up high enough without feedback as I am using it as intended as monitor and PA. In the interim, I've done a few gigs in restaurants/bars that have high spec sounds systems and you can connect what looks like an XLR. The input on wall is female. I've not tried out yet as didn't have right cable. What's the best cable to get to connect and try that out? Is it a...
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ST ·
Hi Liam, It sounds like you need a cable like this to connect the T1 Master Output to the house system. Here is a link to cables like this in various lengths. https://www.sweetwater.com/c81...ed_Cables_XLR_to_TRS ST
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Re: Outputting L1 Model II to house sound systems

hoohaa1 ·
Thanks for the quick reply! Yes that looks right. I did notice in the restaurant that there are 2 XLR inputs on the wall. Would that mean I just need to connect into one of them, or need a 1/4 inch on one side that splits into 2 XLR? Also balanced or unbalanced cables? Does it make a difference? Thanks again!
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Re: Outputting L1 Model II to house sound systems

ST ·
Hi Liam, We don't have enough information to know why there are two inputs on the wall. You'll have to talk to the venue. It seems unlikely that you would need to connect to both inputs and generally speaking, you would NOT use a splitter on a cable connected to the T1® Master Output. The T1® Master Output is a balanced connection. The XLR connection on the wall suggests that the input is also balanced. The cable shown in my post would support a balanced connection. Where the devices on both...
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Re: Outputting L1 Model II to house sound systems

hoohaa1 ·
That's great thanks. Gonna order a cable and see how I get on next time in the restaurant! Cheers. L
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Re: Outputting L1 Model II to house sound systems

ST ·
Hi Liam, Please come back and tell us how things work for you. Thanks, ST
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Re: Outputting L1 Model II to house sound systems

hoohaa1 ·
While I'm here I had question about monitoring.
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Aux send

Ejay ·
Hi Bose I would like to play backing tracks from my iPad. I would like to assign the right channel (mono Backing Track) only to the Master Output and the left channel (Click Track) only to Aux Output. Is this possible? Thank you Ejay
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Re: Aux send

Bose Pro Community Admin ·
Hello, Ejay. Thank you for joining us here in the Bose Pro Community. Yes, this is possible. Yes, you can do this. Use the analog connection (headphone jack) with a cable like this Hosa CMP159 Stereo Breakout, 3.5 mm TRS to Dual 1/4 in TS, 10-Feet You need to connect the 1/4" jacks into two separate inputs on the T1®. Examples: Channels 1 and 2, 2 and 3, 3 and 4. Note: T1® Channel 4/5 is one input not two. Please follow the link below to learn how to use the Aux Output. T1 ToneMatch® Audio...
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L1 Compact to external speakers

Ibraheem Malik ·
Hello! i had a quick question for you all. I have a new L1 compact system I'm using in a school's main hall, to improve sound quality in the main hall. My problem is that the previous wired speaker system that sits in the ceiling of the rooms isn't linking nicely with my L1 compact's output. Every time I plug the ceiling speakers into the output of my Bose, there is a harsh crackling coming out of the speakers. Currently I'm just using a mic into line 1 of the bose, and the output is the...
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Re: L1 Compact to external speakers

ST ·
Hi, Ibraheem Malik, Thank you for joining the Community. For Troubleshooting: Please connect another powered loudspeaker to the L1® Compact Line Out. Do you hear the harsh crackling? It would help to know more about the connection to the ceiling speakers. Do you know what is at the other end of the connection? Please tell us about other devices you've been able to connect to the ceiling speakers successfully. Thank you, ST
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ST ·
Hi Ibraheem Malik, Thanks for the additional information. Here are some more ideas. Please send a link to owners guide for the control unit. If you are using a cable that terminates like this (1/4" Tip-Ring-Sleeve) Please try a cable that terminates like this (1/4" Tip-Sleeve) For Troubleshooting: Please connect another powered loudspeaker to the L1® Compact Line Out. Do you hear the harsh crackling? ST
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Re: L1 Compact to external speakers

Ibraheem Malik ·
Hi! Thanks for the response! Yes the ceiling speakers all used to work properly before, we used to use a basic mixer and a cheap lapel mic and the sound used to come out fairly clear. the speakers plug into a control unit which has very basic master volume controls, individual room controls and base/treble adjustments. From this control unit we have a quarter inch cable that comes out, which I have been using to plug into the bose. Do I need to add something to link the ceiling speakers to...
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Brand new L1 Model 2 doesn't always output sound when switched on

Sticko ·
Hi I just bought a new L1 Model2 B2 system, which sounds great. BUT Normally, when I switch the system on, the blue light comes on, the fan comes on (you can hear it) and then when I unmute the T1 inputs and play, there's audio coming out of the system. THE PROBLEM Sometimes (the 2 first weeks it was systematic and now it's every 5-6 switch-ons) the blue light comes on, the fan DOESN'T come on and when I unmute the T1 inputs and play, there's NO audio coming out of the (brand new) system! In...
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Re: Brand new L1 Model 2 doesn't always output sound when switched on

Sticko ·
Hi ST Thanks for your quick answer. I just brought the power stand back (for the 2nd time) to the dealer, who finally accepted to send it to the swiss distributor. I'll keep you informed on the case. Happy new year
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Re: Brand new L1 Model 2 doesn't always output sound when switched on

ST ·
Hi Sticko, Thank you for joining the Bose Pro Portable Community. I'm sorry you're having a problem with your new L1 Model II with T1®. There's no rational explanation. I would take the unit back to the dealer (just the Power Stand) to be exchanged for a new one. If dealer won't help, please contact Bose Professional in Switzerland. Switzerland Go Wild AG Sumpfstrasse 22 Postfach 1446 6301 Zug, Switzerland Tel: +41 (0)41 766 37 00 Fax: +41 (0)41 766 37 05 info@gowild.ch Thanks, ST
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Re: Brand new L1 Model 2 doesn't always output sound when switched on

Sticko ·
Just got my power stand back. The swiss distributor apparently knew about this issue and repaced the DSP board. Since then, not trouble at all. Thanks for the great service!
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Re: Brand new L1 Model 2 doesn't always output sound when switched on

ST ·
Hi Sticko, Thanks for coming back to tell us how things turned out. I'm glad all is well. ST
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Re: Brand new L1 Model 2 doesn't always output sound when switched on

Musicianthomas ·
I'm glad this worked out well for you too. I had to send my power stand back after only three weeks owning it, but Bose was fast and efficient. Even now every GREAT now and then, what you describe happens and a simple off and back on with the power stand has worked fine. I still have my old PA just in case of emergency, so the worst I can ever lose is one gig.
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Source Output Levels for Bose F1 System

DJ8X ·
I have read in a few places that the Bose F1 system performs best when connected to a source with a strong output level. I am wondering just how true this may be. I lean toward the idea that the F1 system performs well no matter the source. I was able to connect my system to two sources with different output levels, and I was able to achieve optimal sound on both sources. My test was very non-scientific. I just used the limit indicators on the F1 Sub and 812 as a reference point. I was able...
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Re: Source Output Levels for Bose F1 System

DJ8X ·
Yaaaaay....it's all good. My original test came from the desire of wanting to eliminate my Mackie mixer from the signal chain. While it does have a greater output than my Pioneer controller, the only real difference I observed was it had the ability to peak my system faster than my controller. My next test will actually involve spl meter readings at peak from both sources. If the Mackie proves to be "louder", then I might concluded that it also lowers the noise floor.
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Re: Source Output Levels for Bose F1 System

ST ·
HI DJ8X, I hope we're all fine here. My intent was to acknowledge jdbassentertainment's comments as having been helpful. I did not intend to case aspersions on your reply. Good assumption. I was offering a tip for those who might not know to do it. (Not you of course). No need for an apology here. I'm sorry if I gave you that impression. Cheers, ST
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Re: Source Output Levels for Bose F1 System

ST ·
Hi DJ8X, jdbassentertainment's comments are constructive here. If you have a switch on your mixer (-10 dB), disengage it. If you have a switch that lets you choose between MIC/LINE output, choose LINE. We have an article about the F1 Model 812, and you will want to read the section on the F1 Model 812 Input Output Panel Please note this excerpt from the article. Does that help? ST
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Re: Source Output Levels for Bose F1 System

jdbassentertainment.com ·
I have one mixer that has a -10db attenuation switch on it (Denon X900)... I usually use it with it engaged when using it with any of my L1 products with great results. That being said, when I use it with my F1 products leaving the -10db switch on I can push the volume on the mixer all the way into the reds with the F1 sub at full volume it will only push it to about half output. So what I have learned is the mixer needs to be run in full output mode (-10db switch off) to get good results...
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Re: Source Output Levels for Bose F1 System

DJ8X ·
ST, at no point did I perceive the comments as not constructive. My comment was basically saying that there are exceptions to the theory in my original post....like having a source that throttles -10db. I am aware of the Line/Mic option. My original theory was assuming that anyone doing music playback will be using LINE. If anything posted by me can be interpreted as not welcoming, I apologize.
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Re: Source Output Levels for Bose F1 System

DJ8X ·
Interesting. I didn't imagine a -10db gap. So, I guess there could be exceptions.
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Output from L1 M2 with Tonematch to Sonos Play 5

Jwandass3 ·
Hi everyone. My son and I (vocal, keys, acoustic guitar) are playing an outdoor wedding ceremony/reception with our L1 M2 + T1. The happy couple would like us to interface to their Sonos Play 5 (which takes a 3/8" stereo mini plug input) so that they can also have our music in a covered area away from the dancing and also have it on blue tooth throughout their house. Does anyone have any suggestions regarding the best way to do this? The signal from the T1 will obviously be mono so what...
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Re: Output from L1 M2 with Tonematch to Sonos Play 5

ST ·
Hi Jwandass3, From what I can see on the Sonos site the Play:5 does not support Bluetooth so I don't know how this "and also have it on blue tooth throughout their house" is supposed to work. There is a Audio line-in. An auto-detecting 3.5 mm connection. I found an article Using Line In that may be useful. There are too many ways that this can go wrong but this seems the most fool-proof. Get a 1/8" Tip-Sleeve to 1/4" Tip Sleeve adapter like this: Connect this to one end of a long instrument...
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Re: Output from L1 M2 with Tonematch to Sonos Play 5

Jwandass3 ·
ST, thanks so much for your expeditious and detailed reply! I was thinking the same thing about the "bluetooth" capability or lack thereof of the Sonos unit. I'll let you know how it works out.
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Re: T8 noise on outputs

ST ·
Hi Superjazzman1234, I just went did this experiment using best practices for gain staging from the source through to the output. Using USB A Playback with some contemporary tracks Set the track level to 100% Set the T8S Master, so the output meters were bouncing between 0 dB to +6dB (this happens at about 1:00 o'clock on the Master Output) Connected the T8S Right Output to an S1 Pro Channel 1 Input using a 1/4"Tip-Ring-Sleeve cable Reverb off Bass 12:00 o'clock Treble 12:00 o'clock When I...
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Re: T8 noise on outputs

Superjazzman1234 ·
Nope. Tried different cords, different powered speakers, different amps and combinations. it does it with both T8 mixers we have. The noise is coming from the output of the T8 for sure. Don,t get me wrong, we love this mixer and used it on 30+ gigs so far. This is something you wouldn’t notice unless you crank the input level of your amp or powered speaker. The noise is unusually high in comparison to other pro audio mixers we have around. If you use more level out from the T8 master and...
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Re: T8 noise on outputs

ST ·
Hi Superjazzman1234, Thanks for writing and asking about this. In the video you've the the Channel 2 volume control well above 12:00 and you turn it up from there. If you have a signal running through the ToneMatch mixer running around 0 db to +6 dB on the output meters, you'll find the S1 Pro will clip below the volume you've shown us in the video. I'll do some testing here and come back to this discussion. ST
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Re: T8 noise on outputs

Superjazzman1234 ·
Just to be clear, this noise is without any audio and the master on the T8 all the way down to zero. This is just noise coming up the line output with no audio. The output line is noisy. We duplicated it with a different T8 and a series of different amps and powered speakers. The noise is there when you turn the input level on the amp/powered speaker. Try it and you will see what I mean.
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Re: T8 noise on outputs

Phil T Williams ·
What have you got plugged into the inputs
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Re: T8 noise on outputs

Singsongwriter ·
Thats not good. Hmm...I was thinking about buying one too. Maybe a bad cord??
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Singsongwriter ·
Thats not good. I was thinking of buying one also.
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T8 noise on outputs

Superjazzman1234 ·
We bought two T8 mixers and we have been using one of them at numerous gigs so far and we like it a lot. Both have the same symptoms I will describe. Did anyone notice that the main outputs either XLR or 1/4 has a lot of white static noise on those lines? Set it up link this: With the T8 master volume all the way down, all channels muted and the output of the T8 plugged into an external amp or powered speaker, no matter what type (tried on th S1, L1, and several others with same results),...
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Re: T8 noise on outputs

ST ·
Hi Superjazzman1234, I see what you mean. I can replicate the results in your video and as you described above. This doesn't demonstrate a fault with the system. When you turn down the amplifier at the end of the chain to a level you would use with a signal present, the noise is almost inaudible. Is the noise preventing you from using the T8S? ST
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Re: T8 noise on outputs

Bertman ·
That meets my experience. Compared to my pretty old Yamaha my T8 is more noisy (in combination with 2 L1 compacts). I gonna try to handle this by experimenting with the relation of mixer output an the volume control of the L1 compacts. Maybe there is a better sweet spot. I will report any news.
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Re: T8 noise on outputs

Superjazzman1234 ·
Our T8 is a workhorse and is being used on gigs several times a week This is not a problem in the operational use of the mixer. I just thought it was kind of unusual that great mixer like the T8 was generating so much noise in this situation when in many of our test comparisons the inferior mixers were very quiet.
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Need specs on S1 Pro TRS Output

PrairieMutt ·
My question is about your S1 Pro described at https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/speakers/portable_pa_speakers/s1_pro_system.html with regards to the TRS output. I need to use it for other than a speaker. What is its nominal output level, impedance, and allowable load so that the load does not affect the S1? Many thanks. (I looked at the manual and tried Google, but to no avail - the info is just not there.)
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Re: Need specs on S1 Pro TRS Output

PrairieMutt ·
Sorry, to give that info should have occurred to me. I am planning to connect to consumer line level input (about 1 V nominal), unbalanced, 600 (approx) ohm input impedance. Not knowing anything about that TRS output, I do not know if I need to use a transformer or whether I can just use one side and ground, for example.
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Re: Need specs on S1 Pro TRS Output

ST ·
Hi PrairieMutt, Thank you for joining the Bose Portable PA Community. What are you planning to connect to the S1 Pro Line Out? Thanks, ST
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Need specs on S1 Pro TRS Output

PrairieMutt ·
My question is about your S1 Pro described at https://www.bose.com/en_us/pro...s/s1_pro_system.html with regards to the TRS output. I need to use it for other than a speaker. What is its nominal output level, impedance, and allowable load so that the load does not affect the S1? Many thanks. (I looked at the manual and tried Google, but to no avail - the info is just not there.) (No reply from Community forum, either.) I am planning to connect to consumer line level input (about 1 V...
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Re: Need specs on S1 Pro TRS Output

PrairieMutt ·
ST: Thank you, but it is really best to have specifications and make sure you adhere to them. Something that works once may not work in cold weather, low battery conditions, etc. There are standard specifications for many things, and for good reason. There is no reason Bose can't tell us what the specs are on that output; we do not need to know their internal design. Thanks again.
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Re: Need specs on S1 Pro TRS Output

ST ·
Hi PrairieMutt, I've asked for some help on this and hope to have an answer for you soon. In the meantime, I managed to cobble together some bits and pieces here and have successfully connected the following: S1 Pro Line out (one side of the balanced connection) to the RCA input of a consumer device here. I connected a microphone to the S1 Pro, and the sound is coming through fine through the consumer device without excessive noise or distortion. Does that help? ST
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Re: Need specs on S1 Pro TRS Output

Bose Pro Community Admin ·
Hello, PrairieMutt, Please see the response to your request in the general community area. Need specs on S1 Pro TRS Output Thank you, Bose Pro Community Admin
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Re: Need specs on S1 Pro TRS Output

PrairieMutt ·
ST, All: Thank you very much for the information. I have just ordered a suitable impedance matching transformer that will do what I need. Very many thanks again.
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Re: Need specs on S1 Pro TRS Output

ST ·
Hi PrairieMutt, Here's the information we have in our Bose Portable PA wiki. Source: S1 Pro Line Out You asked about "Allowable load so that the load does not affect the S1" Are you referring to allowed load impedance? The line output can drive low or high input impedances. It cannot drive a speaker. ST
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Re: Need specs on S1 Pro TRS Output

ST ·
Hi PrairieMutt, I noticed your post in the Ask Bose for Help forum. As soon as I have more information for you, I will post a reply here. In the meantime, here is a link to information about the S1 Pro system, specifically related to the S1 Pro Battery And there is information there about running in the cold. ST
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