Tagged With "Classic"

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L1 classic half work

Fin ·
Hi to you all, I am Fabrizio from Italy. I have a couple of used (not by me) L1's classic with 4x B1. One is perfect, the other nope. I run them always with a line input in the input 3 (at volume 3) and already tried the input 4. The broken system sound awful, No eq and NO x-over. I have full range in the sub output, Removed the radiator and checked the 3 amps individually. All works correctly if driven from their inputs. If I use one of the classic line inputs (3 and 4) in every amps out I...
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Bose L1 Classic-Replacement lid for control panel on Base Unit

violinsongz ·
Hello - my guitar player accidentally broke off the lid that covers the controls on my Bose L1 Classic Base. Does anyone know where I can get a replacement for this? Thank you!
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Connecting a mixer to L 1 Classic

Bronzer ·
I just purchased a Yamaha MG12XUK Analog mixer. I need to know how to connect it to my Bose L 1 Classic PA.
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Power on but no sound from L1 Classic

Eric Shaw ·
Hello, I have 3 L1 Classics that have been trouble free since 2003. One of them however has decided to go quiet on me. The power LED comes on and the signal LED on the channel 1 and/or 2 show that the signal is present to the amp. I can hear a faint hiss in the tower but nothing else. Any suggestions?
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Cliff Henricksen Introduces the Bose Personalized Amplification System (2003)

ST ·
Here's a blast from the past. Cliff Henricksen Introduces the Bose Personalized Amplification System (2003) Check it out. The principles still apply. Enjoy. ST
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No power on L-1 Classic

Bronzer ·
I have an L-1 Classic and have been using it since 2010. I play in a duo and we play every weekend, sometimes both Friday and Saturday night. I've never had a problem with the unit until last night. I set it up, connected the guitar and mics and turned it on. The green power light did not come on. I checked the power connection and it was good. I keep a test meter with me and I checked the fuse. It was okay. When I got it home, I checked the on/off switch with the meter and it's good. Any...
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Upgrading system

Baja Beat ·
We are a small group of 3 with three Acoustic-Electric guitars with three vocals. We do a mix of Folk, Country, Classic Rock and Mariachi. We use Sennheiser 935 mics, a 12 hole Behringer mixer, and a L1 compact for our performances. I am seriously thinking of upgrading to L1 model 1 or Model 2, and adding the T8s tonematch to try to get a little more punch for some of our gigs. I really like the Compact but would like to get a just a little more power. So does it make more sense to overboard...
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Re: Upgrading system

catmoondaddy ·
If you ever think about down the road and getting a bass guitar you will be ready for it. We sold our huge Electro-Voice mains and monitors along with a mixing board and a suitcases full of cables and it took over an hour and a half JUST to set up! Then of course a sound check. It now takes 15 minutes to set up the L1 Model 2 with Tonematch 8s and the sound is incredible. Clean, crisp and powerful. We played for 400 people last weekend and you could hear everything at the end of the huge...
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Re: Upgrading system

CityFolk ·
We have an acoustic duo/trio (2 acoustic guitars with pickups, 1 upright bass, 2 vocals) through a L1 M2 with 2 B1s. We used to have a L1 M1 for many years before it started having issues so we upgraded to the M2. We’ve also recently been using the Bose S1 Pro when we perform as a duo in smaller venues. To address your question, I would recommend going with the L1M2 with at least one B1. The M2 has a better articulated speaker tower array that projects the sound better than the M1 and the M2...
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Re: Upgrading system

catmoondaddy ·
I was wondering in the beginning if we should get the T8S and asked a lot of people AND tech support if I could still use our older mixer. They were split down the middle. Once you get the hang of the T8S, it really is a lot easier to set up and use. Glad we did it. Glad to see your happy with what you got. Maybe we will try it sometime to see the difference.
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Re: Upgrading system

Baja Beat ·
What a great forum. My concern was that the L1 model 2 which is advertised for up to 500 people might be a little larger than we need since we are so close to doing what we need with the compact, but it sounds like those with the experience feel that the extra money for the model 2 is a smart move since the sound is so much better with 24 speaker array. I also use a TC Helicon Voice Play Live but find I only use it on a few songs and mostly on one setting, so I probably can get close to the...
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Re: L1 classic half work

ST ·
Hi Fabrizio, Welcome to the Bose Portable PA Community. It sounds like the broken L1 CLassic is stuck in diagnostic mode. This is usually triggered by applying a resistor across the B1 Bass Module Output pins 2+/2- with a value of less than 5 K ohms. This could happen if you connect more than two B1s to one power stand. Try connecting a single B1 to the L1 Classic that is working. Then try the same cable and B1 with the L1 Classic that is not working. Do you get the same result (not working)? ST
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Re: L1 classic half work

Fin ·
Thanks for the tip, I'll try today and will report the result
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Re: L1 classic half work

Fin ·
Just make the test. Nothin' changed. I first try with the good one, playing audio from PC without sub, then while playing I plugged one B1, audio stop then restart in a second with correct DSP settings and EQ. Well, tried the bad one. Start playing w/out sub than I plugged the same sub and cable I used before, no audio stop, it's still in diagnostic mode, awful sound and full range from all 3 amps. Aside question, where is the resistor in the cable? I checked my Bose original cables but no...
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Re: L1 classic half work

ST ·
Hi Fabrizio, The only other suggestion is to disconnect everything including the AC power from the broken PS1. Leave it sit like that for at least 15 minutes to let the unit reset. then reconnect things and try again. There is no resistor in the cable. It is in the B1 bass module. ST
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Re: L1 classic half work

Fin ·
Thanks for the suggestion. But it was unplugged for hours before the test so I think that the problem could be in the power supply of DSP. Do you think that reload the firmware could be an option?
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Re: L1 classic half work

ST ·
Hi Fabrizio, I'm sorry you haven't been able to get the second power stand working. I don't know if it will work. Here is a link to the instructions and the file you need to reload the firmware if you want to try it. Classic: Presets 2.0 download ST
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Re: L1 classic half work

Fin ·
In this w.e. I will try updating the firmware. In the meantime I purchased another classic to replace. Hope to resume it. I will update this post with the results. Thank you.
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Re: L1 classic half work

ST ·
Hi Fabrizio, Please let us know how it goes with the firmware update. Thanks, ST
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Re: L1 classic half work

Fin ·
Hi there, the firmware 1.84 and 2.0 presets was updated correctly. The issue is still there. Stuck in diagnostic mode, ****. I try the input 1 and 2. If I change the presets the system correctly stop the audio for a second (to load the preset) then come back and the sound changes as well. So the software is running, the electronic seems to be ok except the amp section, stuck in diagnostic mode. Something happens there, imho. 3 amps with no eq or DSP. Did someone has the same issue in the...
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Re: Bose L1 Classic-Replacement lid for control panel on Base Unit

ST ·
Hi Violinsongz. Thanks for joining the Bose Portable PA Community. I'm sorry the lid got broken. You can call Bose Support to see if they have one. Bose® Product & Technical Support at (877) 335-2673 (U.S. and Canada only) Monday-Friday: 9:00 AM - 9:00 PM ET Other regions ST
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Re: Bose L1 Classic-Replacement lid for control panel on Base Unit

violinsongz ·
Thanks so much. I just got off the phone with them and the part is ordered! Great customer service, both here and by telephone. Thank you!
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Re: Bose L1 Classic-Replacement lid for control panel on Base Unit

Smitty 2 ·
If it's any consolation, I can guarantee you're not the first!
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Re: Bose L1 Classic-Replacement lid for control panel on Base Unit

DavidE2 ·
I'm surprised any of the originals are still working. Everyone I know with one (including myself) had the power supply blow after years of use. No replacements are available, so they can no longer fix these units. They do offer a decent price on a refurbished L1M2.
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Re: Bose L1 Classic-Replacement lid for control panel on Base Unit

violinsongz ·
Yes, I’m grateful that it’s still working. I’m the original owner - bought it in 2004. Never gave me any trouble, fortunately. The broken lid is the only issue I’ve ever had. The funny thing is, support said they had a few hundred replacement lids. I have insurance on it, just in case!
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Re: Bose L1 Classic-Replacement lid for control panel on Base Unit

ST ·
Hi violinsongz, Thanks for coming back to tell us how things went when you called Bose Support. I didn't know they still had stock of those lids. Got a minute? Please tell us about your music. Thanks, ST
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Re: Bose L1 Classic-Replacement lid for control panel on Base Unit

tomdavisdotcom ·
L1 Classic still my go-to system when I need some volume- no matter what they say, it kills the model 2 due to the M2 compression. Model 2 for small rooms needing dispersion
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Re: L1® Classic, missing R1 Remote and cable

MattS-at-Bose ·
Hi ixtlan23 Any 7-wire MIDI cable will work. You can purchase these from music stores which sell instruments and cables. Thanks, MattS-at-Bose
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Re: L1® Classic, missing R1 Remote and cable

Mark-at-Bose ·
Added note: Just be careful not to get a 5-Wire MIDI Cable. The standard 5-Wire cable will not work properly.
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Re: L1® Classic, missing R1 Remote and cable

ixtlan23 ·
Copy that Matts and Mark. I'll try to find one at Guitar Center today. Thanks a lot.
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Re: Connecting an L1 Classic with an L1 Compact with a single T1 for MONO

ST ·
Hi Kevin, Thank you for joining the Bose Pro Portable Community and thanks for the interesting question. You did some great research too. Sure! That will work, but there's an easier way. See below. Connecting the T1 to Channel 3 (like the diagram immediately above) won't work for you. There's no way to get Channel 3 through to another device. I might be easier if you connect the T1 to the L1 Compact, and the L1 Compact to the L1 Classic. You won't need an adapter or adapter cable (XLR to...
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Re: Connecting an L1 Classic with an L1 Compact with a single T1 for MONO

Dissidentman ·
Thanks ST, I will try this tonight!
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Re: Connecting an L1 Classic with an L1 Compact with a single T1 for MONO

Dissidentman ·
This worked great, thanks again.
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Re: Connecting an L1 Classic with an L1 Compact with a single T1 for MONO

Seagullman ·
Hi Kevin, a warm welcome to the community from me too. This has all been covered excellently by ST and he's shown you the possibilities you have for doing what you've described. Using both systems to amplify the same signals seems to be a waste of resources in my opinion. Depending on how large the room is I would have thought that the Classic would cover everything perfectly when being fed by the T1. You don't say what the band is made up of (vocals, instruments etc.) Just bear with me here...
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Re: Connecting an L1 Classic with an L1 Compact with a single T1 for MONO

Dissidentman ·
The band is made up of a lead singer, bass, guitar and drums. 3 vocal mics through the Bose, and bass and guitar going through their own rigs. The Compact was purchased for acoustic performances with 2 mics and 1 guitar. The Classic was added when the full band lost their original practice space that had a traditional PA that they would travel with to shows. The hope is that when they play venues with no house PA, we would take this setup with us, which might mean there is a 4th microphone...
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Re: Connecting an L1 Classic with an L1 Compact with a single T1 for MONO

Seagullman ·
Hi Kevin, Thanks for this information. It wasn't absolutely necessary to be able to answer the set up question you asked. However it can be a help if we want to maybe offer you alternative advice. Basically you can never have too much information. not enough information can happen very easily. This wasn't a bad choice for acoustic performances in small locations when coupled with a T1. I've used mine for a 3 piece acoustic band with 4 mics, a bass or acoustic guitar going through a modeler...
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Re: Connecting an L1 Classic with an L1 Compact with a single T1 for MONO

Dissidentman ·
Tony, this is great information! Looks like I might have a L1 Compact for sale soon. They may want to use the Compact as a monitor for the band members on the opposite side of the stage from the L1 Classic - they will have to determine that after a couple of practices. Thank you for all of the valuable input. -Kevin
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Re: Connecting an L1 Classic with an L1 Compact with a single T1 for MONO

Seagullman ·
I would think twice about selling the Compact, even if the Classic is enough for the Band. Should the Classic suddenly fail the Compact would be a back-up for smaller, quieter locations at a push and due to its size could always be taken to gigs as a reserve in case of mishaps or maybe the need for more extensive monitoring. I have a Model II and a Compact. The Compact I use for smaller gigs, but it gives a certain piece of mind should the Model II fail. In the case of extra monitoring, I...
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Re: Connecting an L1 Classic with an L1 Compact with a single T1 for MONO

Dissidentman ·
1st practice tonight...This thread will help me on my way to becoming the "basement sound guy". Thank you! www.sexcoffeeband.com
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Re: Connecting an L1 Classic with an L1 Compact with a single T1 for MONO

Seagullman ·
I hope that the 1st practice went OK and that you all had a lot of fun yesterday. What we've not mentioned up to now (but maybe that's not necessary) is that the Bose Microphone Presets are EQ'd for what we call "Close Miking" which means that the lips are very close to (or even brushing) the mesh of the microphone. In this position most microphones display what it called the "proximity effect" an emphasizes the lower frequencies. I'm telling you this for 2 reasons. 1) If a vocalist has the...
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Re: L1 Classic - Clicking Noise

ChrisJ-at-Bose ·
Sorry to hear about the trouble. If this doesn't just end up being a power/grounding issue with the outlet in question, then this seems to be internal, and there is nothing we could try, short of what you have already tried. I suggest calling our Pro Portable support team at 877-335-2673 for a service solution.
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Re: T1 v T4S connection to L1® Classic

ST ·
Hi Squid, Yes, you can connect the T4S to the L1 Classic, just as you would a T1®. You'll need a T1 ToneMatch® Power Supply There's a slight difference because there are two 1/4 inch (6mm) output jacks on the T4S for Left and Right Outputs. You've got two ways to handle this: Pan all your inputs to one side (e.g. Right) and connect the T4S Right output to the L1® Classic Channel 3 (try setting the level to about 4) OR Leave your inputs panned to center (the default setting), and connect T4S...
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Re: T1 v T4S connection to L1® Classic

Squid ·
That's great!...thanks much!....can the T4S hook onto the mic stand in similar fashion?
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Re: T1 v T4S connection to L1® Classic

ST ·
Hi Squid, Terrific, I'm glad that helped. There's a new mounting method for the T4S. Please see: T4S & T8S Mixers - 1/4 inch (6mm) Mounting Screw (Mounting Options) ST
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Re: T1 v T4S connection to L1® Classic

Squid ·
Does is matter whether I use balanced or unbalanced 1/4" cables?
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Re: T1 v T4S connection to L1® Classic

ST ·
Hi Squid, If your cable runs are under 20 feet, it doesn't matter. What did you use when connecting the T1® to your L1 Classic? If you want to use balanced cables, you'll need to connect to the XLR inputs on channels 1 and 2. The 1/4 inch (6mm) inputs are all unbalanced. If you connect to channels 1 and 2 - watch the Signal/OL lights. Solid green is good. red flickers are okay. If you see solid red, turn down the trim. The output signal of the T4S is hotter than the T1® so you may clip the...
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Re: T1 v T4S connection to L1® Classic

Squid ·
Thanks...I used unbalanced. Wanted to know if it mattered. I'd rather use channel 3 & 4 as you stated.
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Re: Cliff Henricksen Introduces the Bose Personalized Amplification System (2003)

CityFolk ·
Very interesting chat. Point is, the problem that the design of the L1 attempted to solve, really does work in my humble experience. The evenness of the sound projection and the fact that you hear exactly what your audience hears and what your band mates are playing, results in you playing so much better. That, along with the Bose quality sound, make the L1 essential for our style of acoustic music. I like to refer to it as the fourth band member of our trio. Thanks Clifford and the L1 Bose ...
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Re: Connecting a mixer to L 1 Classic

Jay 5 ·
Plug it in ?
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Re: Connecting a mixer to L 1 Classic

Bronzer ·
Do I use the XLR out or the 1/4" out on the Yamaha? And does it go into one of the XLR connections (channel 1 or 2) on the Bose or into one of the 1/4" inputs, channel 3 or 4?
 
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