Tagged With "stereo"

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iPod (1/8 inch/3.5 mm out) to L1 Model 2 (not compact/not using ToneMatch mixer)

TommyG2019 ·
I'm sure this has been asked before but I couldn't find an exact answer. If I have an iPod (or laptop, etc.) with only a 3.5 mm out jack, how do I plug this into my L1? The L1 only takes a single 1/4 inch input. I understand the 1/4 input to the L1 is mono. My output from my iPod or similar would be stereo. Somewhere along the route the stereo signals will need to be merged. My understanding is using a single cable to merge the signal from stereo to mono is not a good solution. It's a bit...
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T4S and T8S stereo input

Luis Bejarano ·
Dear support, Having used the T1S for a long time there was a input 4/5 which I used to plug a mini-plug to plugs stereo cable, Now with the new model I'm forced to use two of the combo input connectors since input 5/6 doesn't have its own volume control knob. Am I missing something here? would a stereo mini-plug to single stereo plug cable fix this? and use only one channel of the console. Considering I would loose stereo panning. Also, is there a global EQ or room EQ for all channels on...
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Third Party Mixer to Two L1 Systems

ST ·
We have a new article. Mixer to Two L1 Model II Systems Please reply in this discussion if you questions about the article. Thank you. ST
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How to connect T4S to 2 S1 Pros In Stereo

Erick 2 ·
Is it possible to connect the T4S to 2 S1 Pros and use them in stereo?
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T4S stereo connection to Aux Inputs

Songcatcher ·
Greetings. I just got a t4s and tried plugging into aux in 5, with a mini plug to a trs stereo cable, connecting my laptop, (also tried the iPad) to play backing tracks, but only half the channels on the tracks played. I don’t have an L1 system - got the power brick and use other speakers. (Got the S1 Pro as monitor). I have 2 trs cable coming out of the right and left output channels to each speaker. From the diagram in the manual, it looked like the right cord to connect the laptop/mp3...
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L1 stereo set up

ichabods8 ·
I have 2 L1 Compact systems that I use with [ usually] one Nord keyboard.... I'm wondering what the best way to achieve a stereo effect would be ? I've tried these 2 set-ups: Set-up #1. Left out of the kybd ...into first Bose. Right out of kybd to second Bose. Output from first Bose into second Bose. Out put from second Bose to main PA. Set up #2 : Left ouput from kybd into first Bose. Output from first Bose into second Bose.....output from there to mains. I've been using stereo cables for...
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Bose Connect to two S1 Pro in Stereo Mode - Left and Right?

Discobol1 ·
I know you can stereo pair via the app but that doesn’t work on devices without an app. And the left right is not clear to me so I always have to play a test track to know witch one is left en right
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Re: Third Party Mixer to Two L1 Systems

Jeff K ·
Hi ST, A couple of comments as I run this setup regularly (Mackie ProFX8). Not all mixer 1/4" main outs are balanced TRS, there are still some unbalanced TS-equipped models out there, especially in the entry level realm. Suggest adding a "check your manual" caveat/note. Still not a deal breaker, though, as you can still run unbalanced 25'-30' with no ill effects other than a possible nominal 6dB loss in level from using TS plugs in a TRS jack, depending on how the L1 varieties handle that.
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Re: Third Party Mixer to Two L1 Systems

ST ·
Hi Jeff, Thanks for the suggestions. I've added some more information about using unbalanced connections, changed maximum to reference/nominal and added and references to dBu and dBFS settings on output meters. ST
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Re: Third Party Mixer to Two L1 Systems

ST ·
Hi Rowan, Please see this new discussion for you question. Presonus RM32AI recording/mixer to two L1 Model 1S Thanks, ST
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Re: iPod (1/8 inch/3.5 mm out) to L1 Model 2 (not compact/not using ToneMatch mixer)

Chet ·
I suspect that Bose assumes that most L1 buyers will also by one of their mixers (shrug) and send audio via the digital connection. I have a bunch of mixers ranging from a QSC TouchMix 16 and including a very nice little Behringer 1002B that can also run on batteries, which is very nice with my 2 Bose S1 Pro systems. With a mixer, any number of channels can be sent to the L1 via a cable that can plug into your mixer and terminate in a TRS 1/4" plug for the L1 side. Worst case, for JUST the...
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Re: iPod (1/8 inch/3.5 mm out) to L1 Model 2 (not compact/not using ToneMatch mixer)

ST ·
Hi Tom, Welcome to the Bose Portable PA Community. Here's what you can do: Set the iPad output to mono - see iOS Mono for details. Use a cable that has 3.5mm to 6.35mm mono (NOT STEREO). Please click the picture for details. We have more notes here: Stereo to Mono Conversion You're right - it's not a good solution. It's better to combine the stereo signal to mono in the iPad (see above). At it's heart, the L1 Model II (and L1 Model 1S) are mono devices. They evolved from the L1 Classic that...
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Re: iPod (1/8 inch/3.5 mm out) to L1 Model 2 (not compact/not using ToneMatch mixer)

TommyG2019 ·
Thank you both for your replies.
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Re: iPod (1/8 inch/3.5 mm out) to L1 Model 2 (not compact/not using ToneMatch mixer)

Chet ·
ST had the better answer for direct from iPad though! :-)
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Re: How to get stereo with Bose L1?

ST ·
Hi HY, Thank you for joining the Community. Wonderful. The L1® is mono. If your source is stereo (two channels designated Left and Right) you would require two L1®s to make stereo. T1® channel 4/5 combines the Left and Right channels to mono. Please tell us how you will be using your L1®. Will you be playing pre-recorded music, or using it for live performances? Thank you, ST
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Re: How to get stereo with Bose L1?

HO YOUNG ·
Thank you, ST, for your quick and kind explnation. I expected the stereo sound with just one "L1 Model II System". I am playing Saxophone with stereo back-sound source but it might be just one L1 system doesn't make stereo sound unfortunately. Having two L1 system is cost for me. Um.........@^.^@.... Thank you, HY
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Re: How to get stereo with Bose L1?

ST ·
Hi HY, Thanks for the added information. Let me suggest that you may not need to run stereo for your back-sound source. The L1® Model II has extremely wide sound dispersion. This means you don't need two systems to fill a room you may not need two to create a sense of fullness for your back-sound I have done many shows with background music during the breaks through a single L1®. No one has ever asked for stereo. I also know several solo performers who use a single L1® for backing tracks.
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Re: How to get stereo with Bose L1?

WalterM817 ·
I would think the wide dispersion of the line array speakers would negate any stereo imaging with 2 compacts. I have used stereo backing tracks with a single unit and when playing back normal stereo tracks you get a room filling sound with such an even volume thoughout the room that stereo would probably not add much for you. Recently I was able to set up in a huge shop of a friend of mine and he was amazed at the way the Compact was so even all over the room. Even behind a half wall on one...
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Re: Neue Tonematch-Mixer

el'häuser ·
Hallo RF-Musiker, danke für den Hinweis, ich wusste das bis heute nicht... die neuen Geräte sind auf der NAMM Show vorgestellt worden und kommen jetzt im Feb./März auf den deutschen Markt. Als bekennender T1 Tonematch Fan bin ich natürlich sehr gespannt, was die Mischer können. Allerdings hält sich meine Freude in Grenzen, das es sich anscheinend lediglich um ein upgrade des T1 handelt, mit mehr Eingängen (4 oder 8) und das ganze in Stereo. Der Rest wurde vom T1 übernommen, Ich hatte...
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Re: Neue Tonematch-Mixer

Seagullman ·
Hallo Heinz. Im englischsprachigen Foren geht es natürlich mehr zur Sache, was die Neuheiten angeht. Ja, das scheint mehr oder weniger zu stimmen. Stereo ist für DJ's bestimmt nicht schlecht, aber ich kann mit mein T1 noch sehr gut leben. Auch hier würde ich dir zustimmen. Für kleine Mischpulte wie die T4S und T8S die so klein sind brauche ich keine Möglichkeiten Alles mit Tablet fernbedienen zu können solange ich mit L1 Systeme arbeite. Ich höre damit sowieso genau das was das Publikum hört...
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Re: Neue Tonematch-Mixer

RF-Musiker/ Musician ·
Es muss ja nicht zwingend das Behringer Teil sein. Das würde am meisten punkten, wenn man auch gerne einen Exciter, 3D Effektprozessor und einen Vitalizer hätte. Von Soundcraft gibt es für lächerliche 255 EUR den UI12 Digitalmixer, der alles notwendige kann, sich mit jedem neueren PC, Mac und Tablet PC bedienen lässt, wenn dieser eben HTML 5 beherrscht, die 16 Kanalversion ist auch nur einen Tick teurer.
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Re: Neue Tonematch-Mixer

Seagullman ·
Du hast Recht Ronny. Es muss nicht zwingend irgendein Teil sein. Der Behringer bewegt sich allerdings in eine ähnliche Preiskategorie verglichen mit die neuen T-Serien, ist sogar teuerer. Dafür stellt es für meine Begriffe die T-Serien in den Schatten, wenn mann weißt damit umzugehen. Ich bin nicht ganz unbedarft in dieser Hinsicht. Das Behringer Mixer erfüllt auch professioneller Erwartungen und ist extrem vielfältig (z.B. viele Aux-wege für Monitoring, viele Signalprozessoren, Midas...
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Re: Neue Tonematch-Mixer

RF-Musiker/ Musician ·
Vom UI 12 gibt es ja auch noch 2 etwas größere Versionen. Ansonsten ist das UI 12 eben etwas, wenn man eine kleine Band hat, die eine Drummaschine hat oder wo der Drummer E-Drums spielt und dann reichen 12 Kanäle schon. Die 16 und 24 Kanalversion ist dann schon mehr etwas für eine Band, mit Sicherheit hat das Behringer-Teil dem gegenüber mehr Vorteile, als dass Ultrafex und Edison eingebaut sind und man dann so auch ohne Kondensatormikrofon einer Geige Glanz geben kann. Tonematch ist eben...
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Re: Neue Tonematch-Mixer

Seagullman ·
Was die Größe angeht muß ich dir Recht geben Ronny. Was der Preis angeht gibt es auch z.B. von Presonus den StudioLive 16.0.2 - 16 Kanal Digitalmischpult was bestimmt vielfältiger ist als das T8 im gleichen Preissegment, aber wie ich schon erwähnt habe muß man sich ein wenig mit Mischpulte generell auskennen. Hier ein wenig Info über den Presonus. https://www.musicstore.de/de_D...2/art-REC0008739-000 Für den weniger erfahrener Musiker haben die Bose Teile sicherlich Vorteile. Hätte Bose auch...
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Re: Neue Tonematch-Mixer

RF-Musiker/ Musician ·
Musicstore ordnet Mischpulte irgendwie verkehrt ein. Das Presonus ist unter Mischpulte mit Firewire und das eine Tonematch als Analogmixer, muss man alles nicht verstehen. Dafür ermöglicht Thomann nicht, die Mischpulte, die zur Bedienung einen Computer brauchen, abzuwählen. Aber sowohl bei Musicstore, als auch Thomann kostet das einfachste Tonematch 399 EUR, der Bose T4S Mixer ist mit knapp 600 EUR auch das günstigste Digitalmischpult in Stereo, ein Digitalmischpult für über 800 EUR kann...
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Re: Neue Tonematch-Mixer

el'häuser ·
Hallo Ronny und Tony! ich wollte jetzt keine hitzige Diskussion zwischen Euch entfachen, welcher digitale Stagebox-Mixer der beste ist oder das beste Preis-Leistungsverhältnis hat... Ich bin nach wie vor bekennender T1-Fan und begeisterter Anwender. Ich bin sicher, in einer 3-Mann Akustik-Combo gibts nix besseres! Was ich mit meinem Post sagen wollte, ist folgendes: Was Bose als Neuigkeit auf den Markt bringt ist lediglich ein Relaunch des T1 "in Stereo", nicht mehr und nicht weniger. Ich...
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Re: Neue Tonematch-Mixer

Seagullman ·
Hallo Heinz, Für mich hast du das auch nicht. Und ich bin auch nach wie vor bekennender T1-Fan was die erste Generation angeht. Hier stimme ich dir auch voll und ganz zu. Was anderes habe ich auch weiterhin nicht behauptet und habe auch nur sagen wollen, dass die neue T-Mischpulte von Bose für mich zu wenig für viel Geld anbieten wenn ich eh viel tweaken muß um gute Klangergebnisse zu realisieren. Seitz Jahren fragen viele Users hier wegen Presets und seit 10 Jahren ist nichts Neues gekommen...
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Re: Neue Tonematch-Mixer

Seagullman ·
@R F-Musiker/ Musician Was der PresonusvStudioLive 16.0.2 angeht habe ich gesehen, dass der Produktion scheinbar eingestellt ist, also dieses Modell muss ich streichen. Es gibt sie vereinzelt noch zu kaufen aber es kommt nichts nach. Sorry, wenn es hierdurch zur Unklarheiten gekommen ist. Tony
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Re: Neue Tonematch-Mixer

RF-Musiker/ Musician ·
Der Preis von diesem Teil war ja auch sehr stark unter der Preisempfehlung und das ist immer dann der Fall, wenn ein Produkt Platz machen muss. Ich selbst liebäugle ja immer noch mit dem UI 12, da ja der Preis niedrig ist, ich eh einen Tablet-PC brauche und man sich an die Bedienung via Computer schon gewöhnen kann.
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Re: Neue Tonematch-Mixer

Seagullman ·
Da hast Du Recht. Ich habe allerdings gesehen, dass Thomann den Presonus StudioLive 16.0.02 für 1078€ im Angebot. Viel Pult für "relativ" wenig Geld, aber es hängt alles von deine Bedürfnisse ab. Wenn Du auch noch mit dem Rechner aufnimmst hat das Ding Riesenvorteile. Kann ich verstehen. Ich denke hier steht ein super Preis/Leistungsverhältnis im Raum, und ist quasi Stagebox und fern-bedienbarer Mixer in einem. Für das Geld kann man wahrscheinlich nicht Ballzuviel falsch machen.
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Re: Two S1 Pros vs. Bose F1 + Sub System

Oldghm ·
Just a couple of comments. I don't think the size of the space, in this case, is as critical as knowing what the ambient noise level will be that the music is playing over, or under as the case might be. A loud reverberant room might well be too much for 2 S1's, while a quiet space would be fine. The dispersion pattern of the S1 Is 40 degree vertical and 100 degree horizontal, when upright. If you lay it on it's side that dispersion pattern changes to 100 degrees in the vertical plane and 40...
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Re: Two S1 Pros vs. Bose F1 + Sub System

Ric ·
You can daisy chain the S1 Pro with another S1 Pro in monorail. I use a Behringer Xenix 1002B battery powered mixer with my S1 Pro. This gives 9 channels to work with and not require an AC outlet. The mixer takes 3 9V batteries and runs about half as long as the S1, so I carry extra rechargeable NiMH 9V batteries for more time at events.
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Re: stereo effects

ccc ·
Is your guitar stereo? you can place effects on channels. Other then that a mono signal running through two channels.
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Re: stereo effects

ST ·
Hi paradis, The Reverb through the main outputs is stereo. When you use Reverb in the Aux 1 output, it is mono. When panning, the Reverb remains centered. The Delays and Modulation effects are mono, but if you run really loud, you may hear a little cross-talk with the Delays when you panned hard to one side. ST
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Re: stereo effects

paradis ·
Thanks! For clarity, I'm a longtime T1 user, investigating the new mixers. Having stereo reverb is nice. But I'm slightly amazed that the chorus is only mono, knowing how great an effect stereo chorus can be. Why is that if I may ask? Especially since any modern effects unit, built in or not, seems to have it. Is it because many of the Bose mixers will be used in L1 setups with 'one side only' mono operation, where having just one side of a stereo chorus would sound strange (especially if...
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Re: stereo effects

ccc ·
As far as i know you can not place a mono signal into a board and get stereo. If your source is mono you can drive that signal out of your board's output (stereo out) but it is mono into both. You need a stereo source for stereo signal. EG. Guitar two pic ups verses one. Stereo is not the same as a mono signal coming out of two channels, two different signal paths for stereo, mono is one signal which can be channeled through the stereo outs. The effects can be loaded differently on stereo...
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Re: stereo effects

ST ·
Hi ccc, There's lots to read on the web about reverb mono input => stereo output. Here are a few places to start: https://audioease.desk.com/cus...-vs-stereo-to-stereo https://www.strymon.net/faq/mo...-stereo-connections/ https://www.reddit.com/r/guita...n_stereo_out_reverb/ and more search results for Reverb mono input stereo output ST
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Re: stereo effects

paradis ·
Hi CCC, yes the source will stay mono, but a stereo effect algorithm will create a stereo sound effect 'around' it, with has slightly different L and R signals. This creates a bigger, more interesting sound. There are even three channel chorusses around, to enhance your mono guitar sound.
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Re: stereo effects

paradis ·
Hi ST, I'm sorry, I hadn't seen your answer to CC yet.
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Re: stereo effects

ST ·
Hey paradis, No need to apologize. It's great to have all of us in the conversation. ST
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Re: stereo effects

ccc ·
Thanks ST although it may sound picky I get questioned and nailed for using the term stereo generically. I see many using the term stereo, meaning two channels, this is not true stereo. I am not saying one is better, meaning stereo verses stereo effects. I am interested in how effects route out when using an effects loop verses the front of the amp in both stereo and stereo effects. I will check you references shortly as I just read your response.
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Re: How do I connect two S1 Pro systems using the Bose Connect App

ST ·
Hi Vintage Vibes, First, both your S1 Pro systems must be running the latest firmware. You can get that using a PC or a Mac. Visit http://btu.bose.com Please watch the video below up to 1:30 seconds. It's all equally applicable to the S1 Pro systems except the pictures show the Bose Soundlink Revolve. Note: after 1:30 - the video talks about connecting without the Bose Connect app. This isn't supported on the S1 Pro system. Does that help? ST
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Re: L1 stereo set up

ST ·
Hi ichabods8, Thank you for joining the Bose Portable PA Community. Welcome. This will give stereo. This will be mono. If you want to hear the stereo effect from the keyboard, use set up #1. If you want to send a signal to the main pa (which is probably running mono) connect from the LINE OUT from each L1 Compact to the PA. That will take two channels. The PA will handle it from there. OR If you Nord keyboard has four outputs, you can run outputs 1 and 2 to the L1 Compacts, and outputs 3 and...
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Re: L1 stereo set up

ichabods8 ·
Yeah...thats helpful ST.....thx for those suggestions. It sounds as though my first set-up is the best choice for stereo. The Nord is an Electro 3 so....only Left /right ouputs.......it sounds really good with that first set-up but if the L1's are not positioned equi-distant from your head/ears.....it can sound out of balance. I haven't tried connecting 2 outs from each L1 to the main system 'cause the board doesn't have enough inputs. Anyway....thx again for this !
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Re: L1 stereo set up

Jeff K ·
Ichabod(?), I'm not sure I understand your first setup. Your first sentence describes a stereo setup, i.e. one Bose carries the left channel of the keyboard, and the other Bose carries the keyboard's right channel. Your second sentence lost me. If you take the output from the first Bose into the 2nd Bose, now you have one channel on the first Bose but both channels on the second Bose mixed together in mono, and then a mono signal out of the second Bose to the PA. This is mono throughout (I'm...
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Re: L1 stereo set up

ichabods8 ·
Hi Jeff......yes you’re correct....the first set up is the stereo one I wanted. I just wondered if there were any other ways of connecting the 2 L1’s and sending their outputs to the main PA. Someone else had said that regular TS cables would work just as well..or better. By stereo cables I meant TRS. I’d never tried running kybds in stereo before so... experimenting a bit! Thx for your comments.
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Re: Connecting iPhone to T1®

Steve Roth ·
One issue is preventing damage to your iPhone by shorting L & R together with the wrong adapter. Same with your Passport. Another issue is getting good sound. A balanced input 1/4" uses tip and ring as plus and minus. A headphone jack uses tip and ring as Left plus and Right plus. If you connect two pluses to the plus and minus all you will hear is the difference between the two, instead of the addition of both, (like you want).
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Re: Connecting iPhone to T1®

Steve Roth ·
Very interesting. Good to know that the 1/4" insides of the combo jacks on inputs 1,2,3 are unbalanced (I assumed that they wouldn't be)
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Re: Connecting iPhone to T1®

ST ·
Hi Steve, The 1/4" inputs on T1® channel 4/5 are balanced. There's more about the T1® in the article linked below. T1 ToneMatch® Audio Engine ST
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Re: Stereo input to L1 Compact

ST ·
Hi Simpa-tico2, Great question. The L1® Compact has two different stereo inputs: 1/8" Tip-Ring-Sleeve RCA jacks for left and right In the picture below the stereo inputs are marked "Connect backing track device here" We have notes here: Stereo Mixer to Mono L1® If you need more information, please tell us about your stereo source device. Thanks, ST
 
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