Tagged With "Bose L1"

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Philip to Bose Community...HELP!!!!

Banjoman ·
Guys, I'm a fair musician, but I'm a lousy technician. I have (2) L1 Portables and T1 . My group consists of 3 people: myself on 5 string Deering Banjo and Taylor 200e acoustic plus vocals (SM58), a female vocalist on an SM58, and another acoustic guitarist on a Taylor acoustic 400 series who does limited vocals. How should I set the T1 to play mid-size coffee shop venues? Suggestions gratefully appreciated.
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Bose l1 base case?

norpal ·
Can somebody help me? i am looking for cilindrical case for my bose L1 classic , anyone know where can i buy it ? Thanks in advance for your help
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Re: Philip to Bose Community...HELP!!!!

ST ·
Hi Banjoman, Welcome to the Bose Portable PA Community. What model L1 systems do you have? What Model L1® do you have? ST
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Re: Bose l1 base case?

ST ·
Hi norpal, Are you looking for a long bag for one of the sections of the Cylindrical Radiator®? If so, you can probably order one from Bose Support. The size of the Cylindrical Radiator® bags is the same for the L1 Classic, L1 Model 1, and L1 Model II. If you are looking for a bag for the power stand (semi-circular shape), these were discontinued years ago. ST
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Re: Hix maximum volume and its not that loud

ST ·
Hi Kristy, Welcome to the Bose Portable PA Community. I'm glad you're here. Is it possible that someone turned down the trim controls? Please check out this article with videos. T1 Gain Staging You didn't mention what you have connected to the T1; an L1 Compact or L1 Model 1S or L1 Model II? If you are connecting to an L1 Compact, you will get a stronger signal if you use a 1/4" (6.3 mm) Tip-Ring-Sleeve cable from the T1 Master Output ot L1 Compact Channel 2. And be sure to set the ToneMatch...
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Re: Hix maximum volume and its not that loud

Kristy Batty ·
Hi ya sorry its a l1 model 2! All the gains are on really high and everything is maxed just think it should go much louder, im sure it used to... i have a wireless sm58 in channel 2 and i pad/phone in chanel 4/5
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Re: Hix maximum volume and its not that loud

ST ·
Hi Kristy, When you sing loudly or turn up the volume on the ipad, do the trim lights (about the knobs) turn red? How are you connecting the T1 to the L1 Model II Power Stand. Are you using the ToneMatch connector (round barrel, square connector inside), or a 1/4" (6.3 mm) cable to the Analog Input? Thanks, ST
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Re: Hix maximum volume and its not that loud

rtrice ·
A friend of mind told me his Bose L1 sounded terrible. He did not have any of the channel presets set up correctly. Once he got that straight it sounded great. I had a volume issue with my backing tracks on channel 4/5. I had the preset on DJ/Playback. It turned out to be a bad cable. You have to have a good quality Y cable (left/right 1/4 inch mono) to stereo mini jack. A couple of other times one of the 1/4 in. was not all the way in or the mini was not making good contact with the iPad.
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Using 2 Bose L1s but just one B2 as FOH Left/Right

MicklePickle ·
I'm a sound guy and have been using a Bose L1/B2 system for several years for smaller venues. But a single Bose tower is mono and I miss the width of a stereo system, especially for keyboards and special effects like reverb and delay. I'd like to use two Bose L1 towers but just one B2. This will help reduce the phase issues (hot and dead spots) associated with two subs running in a small room. Is this feasible? Would I need to make significant adjustments? Thanks.
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Re: Using 2 Bose L1s but just one B2 as FOH Left/Right

ST ·
Hi MicklePickle, The L1 systems are engineered as an integrated system and always sold as a complete unit (Cylindrical Radiator, Power Stand, Bass module). To avoid issues with multiple bass modules, you can use longer cables and put the bass modules together. As you know, whether or not this will be necessary depends on the room. Having a couple of longer cables will give you the flexibility to handle lots of different situations. Does that help? ST
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Re: Using 2 Bose L1s but just one B2 as FOH Left/Right

ST ·
Hi MicklePickle. How far apart will you have the L1 systems? You can test things now. Just disconnect the B2 bass module. The L1 isn't going to sound great. Then get a longer NL4 cable (note: It MUST be 4 conductor cable). Then try moving the B2 progressively farther away and see how everything sounds. When it comes to bass in small rooms, the only reliable answer is "it depends". So we get to experiment. ST
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Re: Using 2 Bose L1s but just one B2 as FOH Left/Right

Eric'sson ·
I have experimented with this in the past and the results were not good, the problem being that the L1 with no bass module connected upsets the EQ balance which is automatically set according to which Bass mocule is connected and as ST has already explained they are not designed to work on their own but as a paired unit. Using long cables and Coupling the Bass modules is the way to go and it's not too critical where they are placed, with a little experimentation I am sure you would find a...
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Re: Using 2 Bose L1s but just one B2 as FOH Left/Right

MicklePickle ·
Thanks for the encouragement. I'll try the longer distance run to a B2 and see if that makes any difference in sound, although adding a second system still sounds like a "try it and see" exercise. So the real question still remains: shall I fork over big bucks for a second system in hopes it works great? The room is only about 12' x 20' and the bands will go on the short wall, so with drums in the middle the L1 towers will be about 6 to 8 feet apart. (I'd like to keep them away from the side...
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Re: Using 2 Bose L1s but just one B2 as FOH Left/Right

MicklePickle ·
Yup, it's a tiny room (actually 12x25 - just re-measured), but big enough for an audience of 20 or 30. I doubt there will be full drum sets very often, but I'd like to plan the space for them. In any case, lower volume levels will be mandatory. I'm after exceptionally good sound in my old age, where the audience is quiet and you can hear every nuance. Loud isn't necessary or desired. (I know drummers who can play quietly and sparingly - a rare find.) And to my ears, the Bose system is...
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Re: Using 2 Bose L1s but just one B2 as FOH Left/Right

ST ·
Hi MicklePickle, Two trains of thought arise from this: Check out The L1® Approach and the History of Amplification This covers some ideas about using multiple L1 systems You mentioned keyboards and stereo effects Please say more about the sound sources you are amplifying and which ones in particular you would like to hear in stereo What kind of mixer are you using? Do you have an outboard effects processor?
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Re: Using 2 Bose L1s but just one B2 as FOH Left/Right

MicklePickle ·
Hi ST, Thanks for the link. I watched that video several years ago before I bought my first L1. As a result of that video and many reviews, I bought the fuil package of L1, B2 and Tonematch mixer. I later sold the Tonematch as I quickly outgrew 4 channels when mixing bands. As the video explains, the L1 system was designed for individual musicians, one per musician if in a group. If a small band is doing its own mix from stage, it can work pretty well. But if I'm out front as the sound guy,...
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Re: Using 2 Bose L1s but just one B2 as FOH Left/Right

ST ·
Hi MicklePickle, It's an odd coincidence. Yesterday, I had a conversation with someone who wants to create a recurring musical event in a room 12' x 30' with up to four performers including percussion (but not a trap kit). She will seat 30 people in this room. She will set up the stage on the short wall. That's non-negotiable. We talked at length about the merits of having one system or two. She is not interested in stereo imaging, but she is considering the merits of the Cocktail Party...
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Re: Using 2 Bose L1s but just one B2 as FOH Left/Right

MicklePickle ·
Thanks ST, I hadn't thought about the L1's added dispersion and its effect on stereo imaging. Sounds like a bonus! Apparently cocktails taste better too! Given that, it sounds (so far) like a good idea to assign instruments and performers to individual L1s. We'll see how that works out. I can do that to eliminate phase issues with bass and maybe kick. An organ with lots of low end may be a little tougher. But you have me eager to play around with it. Thanks very much for your observations.
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Two S1 Pros vs. Bose F1 + Sub System

TheFocusElf ·
I currently have the Bose F1 (single) and a single F1 Sub. Clearly a mono setup. The space is about 750sq feet - of which the F1 occupies about 1.5-2% of that space. I find it to be a bit of overkill for my space, and, it is setup in a mono format. In either case, the F1 is receiving a Line In from a 16 channel mixer, and the S1's if I bought them and replaced the F1 would too benefit from a separate mixer. Things I like: 1) Built in Bass (unlike the L1 Compact that I returned before buying...
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Replacement power stand for L1 Compact (stolen)

Trina ·
I am inquiring if anyone has just the base unit for the L1 Bose Compact system. Unfortunately my base unit was stolen. Edit Subject: Previously "Bose Base Unit for L1 Bose Compact system" Bose Pro Community Admin
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Re: Replacement power stand for L1 Compact (stolen)

ST ·
Hi Trina, Thank you for joining the Bose Portable PA Community. Welcome. I'm sorry your L1 Compact Power Stand was stolen. Please contact Bose Support. They may be able to help. Bose® Product & Technical Support at (877) 335-2673 (U.S. and Canada only) Monday-Friday: 9:00 AM - 9:00 PM ET Other regions ST
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L1 compact buzzing

houpts ·
I have a Bose L1 compact. A while ago, it started making a hum or buzz when I turn the volume up. It's very distracting and it seems to be getting worse. I don't know what to do about it. I'm playing a guitar through a Baggs Venue, but it also happens with a Radial Tonebone preamp. The louder the volume, the louder the buzz.
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Bose L1 Model 1 - Orange Power Light

VooDooFuzz ·
Ugh. Was happily using my treasured L1 yesterday when all of a sudden the sound died. The Power on light now stays orange and the two input channel signal light red, all with everything unplugged. Reading around am I right in thinking this is a back to Bose to fix? It wouldn't be something simple like a blown fuse etc? Many thanks in advance. cheers Adam.
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Connect a mixer to an L1 Compact

ST ·
Hi Rob, Thanks for using The Sketcher! This is just a quick note to send you a link to your Sketch in case you want to review it, edit it, or share it with others. -- click image to make changes to the live version -- Legend: L1® Compact
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Compare BOSE L1-M2-B2 with EVOLVE 50

Limbo ·
Here's hoping that this is a compliant question within this forum: I am a one-man band/keyboard player that needs high quality top and especially bottom for up to 200 people. Has anybody benchmarked/compared the overall power, quality and convenience of the BOSE L1-M2-B2 system with the EVO Evolve 50 system? I'd appreciate your feedback and observations.
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Re: Compare BOSE L1-M2-B2 with EVOLVE 50

tomdavisdotcom ·
I have extensive and daily experience with both... usually using both simultaneously- spread as far apart as possible to try to keep bass frequencies from cancelling . I bought the EV50 as soon as it was release. I've been holding out for a newer, more powerful L1 for years. When Bose released the S1, I realized it wasn't gonna happen. Here's the breakdown. Power - EV50 is extremely powerful and can fill a VERY large room on its own, however, the mid high section can be excruciatingly brutal...
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Re: Compare BOSE L1-M2-B2 with EVOLVE 50

Limbo ·
Thanks Tom - your response and other similar ones, has me inching towards the L1. One other question - Other than blown or popped speakers, is there anything in particular that I need to need to watch for when if I bought a used L1? So, other than cosmetics, is there a difference between the sounds and quality of a new L1 and a used one?
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Re: Compare BOSE L1-M2-B2 with EVOLVE 50

Ted Bell ·
We use twin Bose L1 B2 Model 2 towers with an EV50. I'd agree with the above assessments. We have two residences, so instead of schlepping the Bose PA's back and forth on a seasonal basis, we looked at using twin EV50's at the other location. That lasted one show. Compared to other towers, the EV's sound pretty good, but compared to the Bose L1 B2, it's was night and day and materially inferior. There truly is Bose, and then everything else. We returned one of the two EV's, keeping one of...
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Re: Compare BOSE L1-M2-B2 with EVOLVE 50

Harry 3 ·
I currently own 2 electro-voice evolve 50's and have used 2 Bose L1 model 2's at my church for many years. The Evolve 50 seems louder, 127dB for the Evolve vs 121dB for the L1 model2 The Evolve 50 to my ears sounds like more of a PA system (very punchy), where the Bose L1 Model 2 has a more refined elegant sound I use the Evolve 50s for one of my DJ systems, works really well for that application, but when I perform (vocals plus my acoustic guitar), Bose is always my choice. I will use S1...
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Re: Martin 00-28

ST ·
Hi Mark, Congratulations on getting your L1®. It sounds like you're having a great time getting acquainted. I don't have a Martin, but take a run through the Taylor Guitar Presets. There may be something there for you. ST
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Re: L1® Compact questions

Bose Pro Community Admin ·
Hello, Sam. Let me take this one. Please follow this link to Returns and exchanges Open the section: Returning a Product. You'll find a telephone number. You can call get answers to all your questions about returning a product. Please note: For Bose Pro Portable Products like the L1® Compact, you get 45 days if you buy directly from Bose. Bose Pro Community Admin
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Re: L1® Compact questions

ST ·
Hi DocSam, The L1® Compact is an integrated unit (the speaker array and the woofer in the power stand), When you use the ToneMatch Preset for acoustic guitar, the EQ is optimized to bring out the best in your guitar. It's overly bass-y. Here's a picture of the L1 Compact Inputs. Close up of the ToneMatch switch. And here's an article that explains what the ToneMatch® Presets do. ToneMatch® There's also a built-in ToneMatch® Preset on the microphone channel. Does that help? ST
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Re: Can I put 4 mics and 1 rhythm guitar into one L1 Model II, Tone match , B2

Chet ·
With an external mixer you will have no trouble with your group... In fact, I'd bypass the tonematch and run XLR from the mixer to TRS 1/4" into the aux input on the L1's base unit... I've done sound for a group with 4 vocalists, 2 guitars, bass and mandolin in a 150 seat hall with mine...
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Re: Can I put 4 mics and 1 rhythm guitar into one L1 Model II, Tone match , B2

Cactus Man ·
Thank you for the speedy reply. Did you plug 2 guitars, bass and mandolin into the external mixer? Did you plug the bass guitar into the Base of the L1 and use the B2 for bass guitar output, or did the bass guitar go through a separate bass amp/speaker? I'd really like this concept to work for us for this wedding reception.
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Re: Can I put 4 mics and 1 rhythm guitar into one L1 Model II, Tone match , B2

ST ·
Hi Cactus Man, Great question. The L1® can deliver the music. There are a few things that may catch you by surprise. Monitoring for vocalists. With four vocals coming out of one loudspeaker, it may be a challenge for the vocalists to hear themselves individually in the mix. With four open microphones you may have trouble getting sufficient gain-before-feedback. With that many microphones I would run the vocal microphones to the T1 so I can use the Noise Gate to avoid feedback. Here are some...
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Re: Can I put 4 mics and 1 rhythm guitar into one L1 Model II, Tone match , B2

Chet ·
You do NOT want to run the bass directly into the stand... For one thing, it won't work (not enough voltage output) and for another you need that AUX in channel for the mixer's output. The best of all worlds is to run bass into a bass amp that's sized appropriately for the stage AND through the L1. You can have adequate bass level on stage to keep the groove and still fill the room with an APPROPRIATE bass tone. I have a direct output from my Genz/Benz bass amp that I can route to another...
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Re: Can I put 4 mics and 1 rhythm guitar into one L1 Model II, Tone match , B2

Chet ·
Mix it right and you're gonna sound great. You might end up selling off the rest of the gear to get another L1. :-) I've filled a 350 seat hall with just ONE L1 (and my bass amp) - Guitar, 2 Vocals, bass and Cajon...
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Re: Yamaha MG10XU MIXER CONNECT TO LI BOSE (GEN1)

ST ·
Hi Alexander, Aha - this is easier. Thanks for the pictures. We have an article that should help. Stereo Mixer to Mono L1 Please read the introduction and then there's a section about the Yamaha MG10 Does that help? ST
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Re: Purchasing First Bose system

Roger Cortina ·
Hi Patriziayt, I do similar gigs, and have also owned the QSC K12. From my experience, the Bose L1 System [especially the Model II with B2 Bass and Tonematch mixer] is an excellent sound reinforcement choice. For the type of gigs you describe, the following attributes of the Bose L1 M2/B2/T1 system proved remarkable: * close to 180 degree dispersion * no monitor required - can place L1 behind you * consistent and excellent sound reproduction * ease of set up / tear down * aesthetically...
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Re: Purchasing First Bose system

Patrizia ·
Thank you. so for about the same amount of dollars, would you purchase one L1 Model 1S with tone match and B2 bass or two stand alone F1s? Which do you think would give me better audience reach (indoor and outdoor), quality of sound, loudness etc for my type of venues ?
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Re: Purchasing First Bose system

Roger Cortina ·
Hi Patrizia, I'm not sure where you're located - I live in Canada and deal with Long & McQuade Music regularly. They have both products available for rent, and it wouldn't be a bad idea to try each for a gig to see how it works for you. It's a relatively small cost for a large investment. Given that, in my opinion, I would not purchase an L1s. I would go for the L1M2 with B2 bass. Nothing wrong at all with the L1s, however, we have had much success with the L1M2B2 system. It has the...
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Re: Purchasing First Bose system

Patrizia ·
Hi and thank you. By M2, you both are referring to the L1 II I assume ? Question, how would that then be in the smaller gigs, lets say the size of a Starbucks? On very low volume, they'd be ok?
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Re: Purchasing First Bose system

Roger Cortina ·
Hi, yes, by L1M2B2T1 i mean the Bose L1 system, Model 2 with a B2 module and a Tonematch. Yes, for smaller gigs, like a starbucks [and I've done these], they work absolutely fine. Just turn the volume down.
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Re: Purchasing First Bose system

Patrizia ·
Thank you and very helpful. so to stay within my budget, how about if I just got the L1 Model II with tone match and skipped the B2 bass unit for now? most of my songs are Barbra Streisand, Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, Bette Midler etc...
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Re: Purchasing First Bose system

Roger Cortina ·
Hi...you could do that, however the B2 module really adds a lot to the system.....I have, accidentally 'cause i left the B2 at home, run a gig without a B2 [just the L1 Model II], but it was a noticeable difference. The B2 with the Model II gives a very nice even response....especially for vocals and acoustic guitar.......If the B2 takes you outside your budget, you can try calling Bose to see if they have a refurbished unit in stock [save some money, and full warranty], or purchase a B1...
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Re: Purchasing First Bose system

Eric'sson ·
Don't even think about it, the L1m2 is designed to work with a bass unit and is incomplete without it. You could save a bit by getting a B1 but my advice would be to get the B2 if you possibly can. You could also go for your original selection, the L1S or even the Compact but you will be losing out on the flexibility of the system and it won't sound as good either (IMO). The L1m2 with B2 will cover all your requirements and even more, I work some fairly large venues and the only time I use...
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Re: Purchasing First Bose system

Brad 2 ·
If I'm not mistaken, I believe the L1 Model 2 is not meant to be operated without either a bass module (either B1 or B2) . The old L1 Classic could be used this way (& maybe the L1 Mod 1 also), but the L1/M2 sounds pretty awful without the bass module.
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Re: Purchasing First Bose system

ST ·
Hi Patrizia, Brad is right! The L1® Model 1S and Model II are engineered to work with bass modules: one or two B1s one B2 They are not intended for use without bass module. ST
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Re: Purchasing First Bose system

Patrizia ·
The L1 model II B2 with Tone match
 
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