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PMWIZARD ·
What are the advantages of this system, compared to the L1? What is the price for this new system?
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PMWIZARD ·
Also, what is the room coverage? Would it be higher than the 500 of the L1 system? Would you need to have 2 arrays and/or subwoofers to cover larger halls.
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ST ·
Hi ST, Yes in the 'Straight' position, the beam width will likely be narrow enough to avoid reflections from the ceiling and floor. PG Restating my question posted above to exclude surprisingly controversial references that as it turns out were not germane to the question. For me, the full sized L1 systems have been really well behaved in large reverberant spaces. There seems to be very little sound going up to bounce around and come back down. There's been far less unwanted reverberation.
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paul-at-bose ·
Hi PMWizard, The F1 system is designed for use with ensembles with drums and guitars. Differences between F1 and L1 are: - More Power - The array is flexible and not fixed - You can daisy chain F1 units together. To cover larger halls, ideally, you would have a left and right system stack. As far as room coverage, what are you planning to do?
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ST ·
Hi Paul, Please tell us when we'll be able to buy an F1, and the price. Will these be available to hear/demo through the same retail outlets as the L1®?
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ST ·
Hi again Paul, Will the F1 have the same return policy as L1 (45 days when purchased directly from Bose)?
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paul-at-bose ·
Hi PMWIZARD, I can't accurately speak to coverage performance based on the specs you gave. To be honest, it's going to depend on the size of the space, how reverberant it is and how loud your band is. As you know, a drummer is going to excite the natural state of a space much differently than an acoustic guitar player. (or an acoustic player through an L1) For reference, we just used the F1 System in a stereo config in NOLA. The band was a rock trio. The space was fairly reflective with...
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

paul-at-bose ·
Hi ST, My expectation is that product availability will be at the end of August. Pricing is: F1 Model 812 = $1199 (USD) F1 Subwoofer = $1199 (USD) Thanks! PG
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paul-at-bose ·
Sorry. Yes. Through US direct channels only.
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atlantadj ·
I am primarily a wedding Dj. Guests could be up to 500 in a normal ballroom setting. Currently use both the L1/B2 system and the Bose Platinum System (802III & 502BP). With the platinum system I start with the tops pointed outward to cover the seated guests for intros and speeches etc, then turn them inward to cover the dance floor for dancing. Could the F1 system be pole mounted so that the arrays can be turned if needed? I am disappointed that Bose did not come out with a more powerful...
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

atlantadj ·
What is the throw as compared to a L1 tower and a 802III? Will the 812 make full use of the 1000 W amplification? How is the 1000 watts assigned to the woofer and the array? I ask because I have a QSC K12, rated at 1000 W. In reality it has two 500 Watt amps (one each for the woofer and the horn), but there is no way the the horn will ever use anywhere near the 500 watts from the dedicated amp. Its completely false marketing from QSC. Balvinder - DJ Bally Atlanta GA www.DJBally.com
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paul-at-bose ·
Hello Atlanta DJ. I attempt to answer your questions here: >Could the F1 system be pole mounted so that the arrays can be turned if needed? Yes. There is a standard size pole cup on the bottom of the 812. >What is the throw as compared to a L1 tower and a 802III? The 812 is capable of 132dB SPL (Peak). The 802 has a peak output level of 122dB SPL. >How is the 1000 watts assigned to the woofer and the array? The F1 Model 812 utilizes a 1000 Watt bi-amplified design. One amp powers...
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

Andy Lancaster ·
How does this unit compare with the L1? I recently (about 6 months ago) purchased dual L1 II's for Mobile DJ'ing (primarily pre-recorded music). Would I see a noticeable improvement in SPL level and sound quality if I traded in the towers for two F1 units? I play lots of bass heavy content (rap, pop, etc). I know dual 10" drivers have slightly more surface area than a single 12" driver, but the F1 also has double the amount of power than the L1 II. I planned on eventually adding two more...
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

atlantadj ·
Thanks Paul! You forgot to include the output level for the L1 tower. What is the power output for each of the two amps? While the 812 has a pole mount, why not a pole mount on the Base bin? using the built in stand does not allow the 812 to be turned. Adding a tripod stand makes the whole thing look ugly like traditional speakers.
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paul-at-bose ·
>You forgot to include the output level for the L1 tower. Ahhh...sorry about the.; L1 Model II has a peak output of 121dB SPL >What is the power output for each of the two amps? One 500 Watt amp is assigned to the Mid array, the other 500 watt amp is assigned to the woofer. >why not a pole mount on the Base bin? We wanted to design a stand that was specific to the F1 system. That said, in my experience, the mains are not usually splayed too widely. If users need to turn the system,...
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ST ·
Hi OneManBand, The F1 horizontal dispersion is 100° and being narrower than the L1®, you will probably use two F1 systems for most events. This will give you more control over where the sound goes - just by turning the F1 system to face the area where you need to direct the sound. I really appreciate the extremely wide coverage we get with the L1® but sometimes you just can't get away from the sound. That's not usually a problem for me although I appreciate that your shows are probably...
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

alcools ·
Hi I actualy use 2 L1 Model 1, with 4 B1. We are a band of 5 musicians, rock cold wave. I appreciate using L1 without return speakers and with very rare larsen. Do the F1 system have the same larsen resistance than the L1 if I use it without returns (at the same level of course) ?
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djvazquez ·
I currently have a pair of L1 Series Model II stands with B2 subs. Occasionally when I play smaller venues I will use a single L1 M2 and use both of the B2 subs for more low end resonance. Would there be an issue with using the F1 Subwoofer instead of a pair of the B2s? I realize, that surface area would be decreased by half, by going with 1 pair of 10" subs versus having 4 10" subs running. The output power of the L1 stand is 250 watts to a single B2, as it is the same with the packlite amp...
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djvazquez ·
I thought about how it would interconnect, and my preference would be to run to the F1 sub first and use the line out to go to the array. I don't think that I would use the HPF though, since the L1 M2 stand already does it's job of filtering out the frequencies between the array and the B2. I could use the bass line out also, not too sure if there would be a difference in frequency response between the F1 sub without a filter versus through the line out of the L1 M2. It would have to be...
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

paul-at-bose ·
Hi Steve, >Would there be an issue with using the F1 Subwoofer instead of a pair of the B2s? I wouldn't say there would be a specific issue. However, since the F1 sub is not tuned like a B2, I wouldn't recommend this use case. I have tested the F1 Sub with a and L1 Model II and was not satisfied. That said, you can experiment and see if that config fits your needs. PG
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djvazquez ·
Thanks for the response Paul, can you elaborate on what you were unsatisfied with? To be honest, I don't know that I want to spend $1200 on a speaker to experiment, but if you could give me some insight on what your expectation of the F1 sub versus the results you experienced, if would help set my expectations.
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alcools ·
You forgive my question ? My english is not very good, but I'm trying to do my best. For resume : Can I use the F1 like a L1 ?
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paul-at-bose ·
Hi Steve, >can you elaborate on what you were unsatisfied with? Since the F1 Sub is tuned for the F1 Model 812, I found the crossover point to be too low when used with and L1. The B2 slope is at a hugher frequency than the F1 so it's a better match for the L1.
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ST ·
Hi Alcools, The F1 is designed to be used as a Front of House system set up as a pair on either side, at or near the front of the stage. The performers will be between and likely, slightly behind the F1s. Yes, you will need stage monitors (return speakers). Yes, this is different from the L1s that were designed to be placed behind the performers. If you put the F1s behind the performers you may get more feedback (larsen) than with the L1s - at the same level (if we are talking about the same...
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

StuartD ·
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ST: Hi Stu, Paul-at-Bose isn't available this morning so I did some checking for you... You can pre-order your F1 system on the Bose site Hello ST, Thank you for checking into this for me. Without a doubt you represent the pinnacle of Customer Service. Your picture should be in the dictionary under "Customer Service". I was at the wrong site. I went here but couldn't find any way to look into ordering them: Bose F1 & L1 Speakers I'll give the Bose folks a call...
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djazizmasudi ·
I am a house music DJ. I use the Traktor Kontrol S4 and the Bose L1 M2 with B2 set to its high position the bass is welcome for me. I just want to know should i add another B2 with a lite or try the F1 Sub? I usually play a room with about 100 people. And i would love to get more bass (DB) on the floor. I alway get a good position to place my L1 so the B2 can really perform. But if i can get more punch that would be great. I don't use any other gear than what is mentioned above, but i know...
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ST ·
Hi DJ Aziz Masudi, Thank you for joining the Forum. Here's a recent discussion in which several of us explored the differences between adding an A1 Packlite and B2 to an L1 Model II with B2 compared to adding an F1 Subwoofer. L1 II System With Two F1 Subwoofers The title doesn't really reflect where the conversation ended up, and I think that you'll find that it is relevant to your question. ST
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

Kyle-at-Bose ·
Hi Badtoad, Yes, F1 system components feature built-in limiters and protection circuits to prevent loudspeaker damage. If your source is a mixer/console (sounds like it may be), I would run it into channel 1 balanced with the F1 channel volume setting at 12-noon. Drive up the source until you see flickering red at the peaks of the program material. This is can be considered your "max" on the console controls. If this is not loud enough for your tastes, you can turn up the F1 volume control...
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Anywhere PRO Audio ·
Alcools, As the Bose pro mentioned, the F1's are for front of house and not meant to be used as forward facing monitors. However, if you already have the L1's...here's a detailed explanation for what we have been doing and bands are loving it. http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/for...0043776/m/3770031186 Happy New Year!
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Bose L1 Compact power stand

elenpereira ·
Please, Help! I need to know the code of components from positions Z4 and Q1. It is working in mute and need these components to return working. E-mail: nanoevaldt@gmail.com Thanks a lot, Nano
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Martin 00-28

MarkOgier ·
Hi all well after much amazing advice from the members on this forum I dived in and bought my first L1. A model 2 with a B1 (for now) and T1. We ( my wife, singer and I, guitar) have done a couple if small cocktail/garden party type gigs and all I can say is wow! Truly amazing. Easy to carry, setup, use and take away. And sounds fabulous. so now for some tuning.... I play a Martin 00-28 and am struggling a bit to find 'that sound'. Maybe I expect too much but with all that processing power...
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ST ·
Hi Mark, Congratulations on getting your L1®. It sounds like you're having a great time getting acquainted. I don't have a Martin, but take a run through the Taylor Guitar Presets. There may be something there for you. ST
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L1 and Digital mixing desk

gfad97 ·
Hi guys, just a quick question. I am looking to downgrade from my big rig that i use to 4x Bose L1 Model II with B2 Bass Module. I have currently brought one to see how my band gets on with it in rehearsals. so far they all really like it. But I also own an Allan and heath QU32 digital mixing desk followed by 2 Allan and Heath AB168 stage boxes to give me full 32 channels on stage via cat 5 cable. Is it possible to connect the 4x Bose system to the outputs of the stage boxes and route the 4...
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Re: L1 and Digital mixing desk

ST ·
Hi gfad97, Thank you for joining the Community. Thanks for the background information. For future reference: I found this information about the Allen & Heath QU-32 and Qu Mixer Getting Started Guide Allen & Heath AB168 and the User Guide . This really sounds like a QU-32 question rather than an L1® question. At a glance through the Allen & Heath documents, it looks like this should be possible. Let me encourage you to create four separate mixes and treat your stage as four zones...
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Re: L1 and Digital mixing desk

scottcald ·
I agree with ST, try and use it as intended. Are you really using 32 channels? If so, can you share what they are? I get that you want to have one fader to control everything, but it offers you less flexibility. Get a balance of what's in each L1 first, then you can use the Mix outputs to control each L1 and make your work pretty easy with mainly 4 faders to deal with. Hope that's helpful, Scott
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Anyone please suggest me a external speakers to add on bose l1 compact of same sound quality as l1 compact.

Sushil Khanal ·
hello bose community, I have a bose l1 compact sound system with bose audio tonematch t1. We use this system for our meditation hall about 25m long and 10m wide. the sound is low for the music celebrations so we decided to add external speakers to it but we got confused which speakers to add on it. We'll like to add speakers of same sound quality as l1 compact sound system . So please give me some suggestions about it Sushil
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Re: Anyone please suggest me a external speakers to add on bose l1 compact of same sound quality as l1 compact.

ST ·
Hi Sushhil Khanal, Thank you for joining the Community. This is really easy. The L1® Compact as a line out connector on the back that allows you to connect a second L1® Compact. Compact Daisy Chain Please click the picture for more details. In your room, I would put the two Compacts at 1/3 and 2/3 positions along the 25-meter wall. Does that help? ST
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Re: Anyone please suggest me a external speakers to add on bose l1 compact of same sound quality as l1 compact.

ST ·
Hi Sushil, I thought very carefully about the size of your big celebration hall and that you want to use it for dance with full music. I can't think of anything smaller than another L1® Compact for this purpose. Why not? If you want the same sound quality, then you want another L1® Compact. If you think the L1® Compact is not loud enough for your music, the only alternatives to the L1® Compact would be a larger L1® like the L1® Model 1S or L1® Model II. Both of these can provide much more...
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System for music rehearsal room

Technogeek ·
I am coming up with jamming music rehearsal room. Area is 480 sq feet and their will be 12 to 15 musicians will rehears the music. I am interested in Bose L1 Compact system but have couple of questions. Can I use 16 channel mixer to mix the sound for the output? Can it be useful for the 12 to 15 musicians? Their will be 2 vocals, 1 or 2 keyboards, electronic and acoustic drum set, lead guitar, base guitar and other Indian instruments which will use mic as and output. Please suggest the...
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Re: Anyone please suggest me a external speakers to add on bose l1 compact of same sound quality as l1 compact.

Sushil Khanal ·
Hello ST, Thank you for your fast and informative response on this query of mine. I know how to connect second speaker or system in bose l1 compact but what i wanted to know was name of speakers that I can connect in this bose l1 compact. I don't want to buy second bose l1 compact. So, I would like to get some alternatives speakers name with the same like sound quality of bose or some alternatives from bose itself. Its like we have a big celebration hall for meditation purpose about 25 m...
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Re: System for music rehearsal room

MattS-at-Bose ·
Hi Technogeek, I think this is a reasonable use for the L1 Compact. We rate it for up to 100 people listening and it will reproduce as large a mix as you want to play through it. Prerecorded music for example, can have many channels, 48 channels and far beyond and play through an L1 just fine. Thanks, MattS-at-Bose
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Technogeek ·
Hi Matt, thank a lot for the reply. Do you have any setup PDF file to understand about l1 compact connectoions with mixer system and do we need any video controller. Does the bass enoght for 500 sq Room. ? Can we add 1 more sub to l1 compact system. '0
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Re: Anyone please suggest me a external speakers to add on bose l1 compact of same sound quality as l1 compact.

ST ·
Hi Sushil, Here's another reason to consider a second L1® Compact. If you add another conventional loudspeaker, it will likely have a horizontal dispersion of 90-100 degrees. Your L1® Compact has a horizontal dispersion of 180 degrees. Two Compacts can do a very good job covering a room like you described. But if you use a conventional loudspeaker for the second speaker, you may have gaps in the coverage. ST
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Re: System for music rehearsal room

Nick-at-Bose ·
Hello, To connect a mixer to the L1 Compact, the best option will be to use the L1 Compact's 1/4" input on Channel 2. Here is a link to the Compact's owners guide This article here has a general overview of the best practices: Connecting a mixer to an L1 system Regarding bass: In general, I'd recommend using a dedicated bass amp rather than feeding the bass guitar through the L1 Compact. And in a room that size, you probably won't have to be concerned with mic'ing the bass drum either. If...
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Re: Why does Bose post a question and then only want bose employees to respond?

ST ·
Hi AJ, I'm glad you've visited us in the new Bose Pro Portable PA community. You were in the Ask Bose For Help Forum. It is reserved for people who want a reply from someone at Bose. We set this up in 2009, and here is how Ken-at-Bose introduced it. If @GLB Productions (the person who posted the question) had posted the question anywhere else in the community, you would have been free to reply. I hope that clarifies things about the Ask Bose for Help forum. In the thread where you posted,...
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Setting up sax with a To emaster T1

Phil ·
Hi just got a Bose L1 1S and Tonemaster. Absolutely hate the reverb settings, sounds really artificial and too many variables. I found my Fender Passport much easier to use- just turn the reverb up if playing for lots of people in a sound -dead environment. Simple and unfussy. can someone please offer me some guidance to get the best out of my new setup. I play backing tracks and use a AT remote clip on. The sax sounds somewhat "disconnected" from the backing track, like its not properly...
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Johan-at-Bose_Scandinavia ·
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Yamaha MG10XU MIXER CONNECT TO LI BOSE (GEN1)

ALEXANDER MACHADO ·
How do I connect my Yamaha MG10XU mixer to the Bose L1 (gen1) to get the best utilization of the mixer and the speaker. I usually have all 4 lines on the mixer being used at one time. How do I connect the 2 and with what type of connector.
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Re: Yamaha MG10XU MIXER CONNECT TO LI BOSE (GEN1)

ST ·
Hi Alexander, Aha - this is easier. Thanks for the pictures. We have an article that should help. Stereo Mixer to Mono L1 Please read the introduction and then there's a section about the Yamaha MG10 Does that help? ST
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