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ST ·
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I am Thankful!

jdbassentertainment.com ·
Hi everyone, it is that time of year when we can reflect on the year... and offer thanks. I am thankful for the Bose F1 components that have integrated so well in my DJ and Live Sound business. These light weight, powerful and amazing sounding speakers/subs were the tools I was lacking but needed for quite some time... very very happy with my investment! Thank you Bose for another year with great gear!! -JD Bass
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Thankful for the L1 System!

jdbassentertainment.com ·
I am very thankful for the L1 Sound System. It will be 10 years of use with these awesome units! I attribute a lot of my success to the use of these amazing sound systems... Having very good sound is very important to me and I am very greatful that I found the L1 and made the investment! Thank You Bose! -JD
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Insulating L1 Compact

tdesjarlais ·
I recently insulated my home speakers after watching a youtube video on DIY ways to improve speaker response. If you search DIY insulated speakers, you will see lots of videos posting recommending insulating your speakers of every type you can imagine. I used a stuffed animal instead of extra insulation and also used caulk. The speaker response change was at least 6 db. Also, all of the hiss went away with the high frequencies; even with the treble turned all of the way up. The bass kicked...
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Re: Insulating L1 Compact

Oldghm ·
In the past I have tinkered with stuffing when changing components / usage of some factory and some custom built cabinets. Have not considered making any changes to a Bose speaker. You may find the article at the link below interesting. http://www.lungster.com/l/spea...ListArchive.shtml#t1 The link below is a short discussion from another forum. https://www.talkbass.com/threa...t-insulation.461882/ O..
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Re: Insulating L1 Compact

Seagullman ·
Hi tdesjarlais, the idea of acoustically insulating/damping the insides of loudspeaker enclosures is certainly not new and has been used in High-end HiFi loudspeakers for decades, and it does contribute to a more defined sound. tdesjarlais wrote: "I recently insulated my home speakers ... The difference was so significant that I wondered how well bose insulated their speaker cabinets." I think that the emphasis here is on the subject of "home speakers". Are we talking serious loudspeakers...
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Re: List Your Profession in which you use the F1 Speakers Pole

ST ·
Hi JD, This is a fun topic. Live Musician - Applications Front of House (FOH) I use two F1 Stacks (F1 Model 812 with F1 Subwoofer) on either side and front of the stage. I use a Soundcraft Ui16 as the mixer. Typically, I will have L1® Compacts or L1® Model II units at the back of the stage for monitors. In this situation, I am also performing. Backline Amp I use this with my T1®, Neumann KMS 105 , and Kemper Profiling Amp. I would normally use my L1® Compact for this application. The...
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List Your Profession in which you use the F1 Speakers Pole

jdbassentertainment.com ·
Profession pole... Think it might kind of be fund... What professions do you use your F1 speakers for? DJ, Live Sound Engineer (between four 812 tops and four F1 subs I have a lot of options)
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Dueling Guitars & L1 Compact

splewis ·
Hi Folks, Looking for feedback on the L1 Compact. My brother and I played a gig at a small bar (in Ashland, MA) last night and used the L1 Compact for the first time. There were about 30-40 people in the bar area and the ambient noise was moderate. We placed the L1C in the corner (to emphasis the bass guitar) and we sat in between it about three feet away. Most bars we play at don't afford the luxury of space (i.e. getting 5-8ft away from the L1 as documented). It sound great when either he...
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Re: Dueling Guitars & L1 Compact

Seagullman ·
Hi splewis, Welcome to the Forum. Unfortunately you haven't said how you get everything into the Compact. I take it you're using a mixer into channel 2 set to line? Could you please give as much detail as possible regarding this. As far as putting the Compact into the corner goes, this is something that I would not normally advise. A Compact can sound very boomy and undefined when placed in a corner. You also don't need to sit either side of it. You could both sit to one side of it if it...
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Re: Dueling Guitars & L1 Compact

splewis ·
Thanks for your reply Tony. Very helpful and essential information that I don't recall reading in the manual? Did I miss that? Page 4 shows one musician sitting down. I do recall seeing something in the L1 S1 user guide about 3, 5, 8 ft. in a good, better, best placement recommendations, but nothing in the L1 Compact manual. To fill in the blanks... we are using a Mackie ProFX8v2 mixer (ch. 1&2 vocals SM58s, ch3. Acoustic guitar, ch.4 acoustic bass guitar) into Line input on Ch. 2 of the...
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Re: Dueling Guitars & L1 Compact

ST ·
Hi splewis, Congratulations on your first L1® Compact gig. More coming. I avoid putting the L1® Compact in a corner. I may get some greater emphasis for the bass frequencies, but I lose clarity and definition of the sound. It's as though the mid-highs are swamped by indistinct bass. Here's a comparison of how I set up with the L1® Model 1S or L1® Model II compared to the L1® Compact. Here is how I might set up as a duo if I could not negotiate my way out of a corner. But I can usually move a...
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Re: Dueling Guitars & L1 Compact

Seagullman ·
Hi splewis, Thanks for the extra infos. When trying to diagnose problems every little bit of information can help. You wrote: "Thanks for your reply Tony. Very helpful and essential information that I don't recall reading in the manual? Did I miss that? Page 4 shows one musician sitting down." You're welcome to any help that can be given here on the forum. With regards to the manual and "only one musician sitting down." The way Bose originally planned for the L1's to be used was that each...
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Re: Dueling Guitars & L1 Compact

Seagullman ·
Hi splewis, I'm sorry to read your last post. I have had some really good gigs with my trio using the Compact. If you've read the gig reports I published here and have tried all the suggestions that have been made here (ST and myself) and can't come to a satisfactory solution for yourselves, OK. If you've not tried the suggestions, then I would urge you to at least try them before giving up on the Compact completely. Please, however let me say something as it would sounds as if you are...
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Re: Dueling Guitars & L1 Compact

Seagullman ·
Hi splewis, one last thought. I've just answered a question in another thread which may be of interest. If not then just forget it, but it never hurts to look. Here's a link: https://www.bosepro.community/...13#25235174782119013 Tony
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Re: Dueling Guitars & L1 Compact

splewis ·
Thank you for your input. It is clear from the marketing material (and my personal experience) that Bose designed the L1 Compact as a PPA for each musician, but the reality is that weekend warriors don't have the cash (i.e. can't justify the expense) or space to make this system work practically.
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Re: Dueling Guitars & L1 Compact

splewis ·
Hi Tony, Again, I appreciate your input and taking the time to respond with helpful suggestions. I thought about all the bars that we play regularly and there just isn't enough room to "get away" from the L1C. I did contemplate buying a L1 S1 (without a T1), but again there are placement issues with this unit too (3,5,8 ft- good, better, best) and you are lugging about 80 lbs of equipment so it kinda defeats one of the purposes of buying it. For vocals and 1 guitar, both the L1C and JBL Eon...
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Re: Dueling Guitars & L1 Compact

Seagullman ·
Hi Steve, In the "Recording performances with Tascam recorder and T1® & L1® Compact" thread you wrote: "Tony, great suggestion to play pre-recorded music through your system for a sound check." This is something which has served me well in difficult locations. and "I appreciate all your advice about using the L1C live". You're more than welcome. I hope that at least some of it is or has been of helot you. Tony
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Re: Dueling Guitars & L1 Compact

Seagullman ·
Hi NoMoreBlack boxes, welcome to the forum. That's some pretty good advice on Compact use. It shows that you've tried out lots of different things over time whilst trying to get the most out of your system. I've also been playing for over 40 years through almost anything I could get my hands on at the beginning (when the word PA basically had a different meaning to what it has today) right through to the sophisticated processor controlled line arrays of today. No 2 locations are alike.
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Re: Dueling Guitars & L1 Compact

NoMoreBlackBoxes ·
After 40 years of playing live using everything from a converted valve record player in small chapels to concert PA at the Albert Hall, I have used and abused a single Compact for 5 years now in a variety of small to medium gigs as part of a guitar/arranger keyboard/harmony vocals duo, a solo act with guitar or piano and voice and a 6-7 piece jazz band where occasionally bass has gone through the PA. With any small PA, keeping stuff out of the system is better than squeezing everything...
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Re: Dueling Guitars & L1 Compact

splewis ·
NoMoreBlackBoxes and Tony, I too have been playing live for over 30 years and have tens of thousands of hours under my fingers (playing and tweaking knobs). Appreciate all the feedback; but I am afraid it is too late, the Compact went back to Bose... $60 for return shipping, many hours of research, and 6 hours of performance. It is my belief that I was trying to "bend the spoon" to make this unit work for my duo which was (what I firmly believe) outside scope of Bose's Product Manager's...
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Re: Dueling Guitars & L1 Compact

Seagullman ·
Hi Steve, sorry to hear "Appreciate all the feedback; but I am afraid it is too late, the Compact went back to Bose" but when all's said and done, you are the one who has to make any decisions that affect you, and also live with them. I can also appreciate that it didn't work for you, but still maintain that a Model IS would probably have been ideal for you. No matter, I've enjoyed juggling ideas with you even though I couldn't help you get a sound that you could live with. Just for the...
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Re: Dueling Guitars & L1 Compact

NoMoreBlackBoxes ·
Hi splewis. My comment about how long I've used PAs was only to show my experience is not limited to being the L1 fanboy I have become, not to open any kind of bidding war. 30 years or 30 minutes, PA systems, like personal relationships, are often as much about choosing the limitations that fit best with your own as they are about choosing what attracts you. For serious involvements 'pretty and popular' really doesn't always compensate. Sometimes a less convenient, less photogenic 'package'...
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L1 Model 1s and tone match hookup with Voice Live 3

Royela ·
Anyone having experience using Voice live 3 with Tone match. Having difficult time with settings matching the 2 together!! When I use my headphones into the voice live 3 it sounds awesome.. but get a completely different sound threw the Bose system!!! not flattering!! Any pointers would be much appreciated!!!
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Re: L1 Model 1s and tone match hookup with Voice Live 3

Seagullman ·
Hi Royela, let me say this regarding your problem. As a Line 6 POD user when it first came out I made the mistake of dialing in my sounds using headphones as monitors. I was really happy with the presets I made for my dance band (similar to a top 40 band) at the time. I then took the POD with my carefully made presets into our practice room and connected everything up. The sound was pretty awful. Nothing like I'd heard through my headphones. After that I always went into the practice room...
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Re: L1 Model 1s and tone match hookup with Voice Live 3

Royela ·
Thanks Tony....I appreciate your quick response!! Yes I have done most of what you suggested and I understand the Mono issue. I use the voice live 3 for harmonies. The sound is good except when I turn on harmonies it increases the volume so the sound terrible!! I have a feeling it is more of a TC Helicon issue than the Bose. Any setting you may suggest using the voive live 3 would be appreciated. Having many frustrating hours trying to get the 2 together. Thanks again Roy
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Re: L1 Model 1s and tone match hookup with Voice Live 3

Royela ·
by the way when you said use utility flat...where exactly are you taking about? Thanks again Roy
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Re: L1 Model 1s and tone match hookup with Voice Live 3

Seagullman ·
Hi Roy, let me first answer this: Utility flat is a T1 preset which basically bypasses the T1 EQ presets. It's basically a bypass. You still have use of the tone controls etc. for fine tuning but no EQ'ing that you don't need. Some of us use it when connecting signal processors such as yours to the T1 as it quite often gives the best sound. To select "Utility Flat" rotate the "Category" knob until you see "Utility" and select it. Then rotate the preset knob to flat and select that. You now...
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Re: L1 Model 1s and tone match hookup with Voice Live 3

Seagullman ·
Hi Roy, You're more than welcome to any help I can give. I look forward to hearing about your progress here. What's unfortunate about gear nowadays is that the things are so versatile that the learning curve is pretty hefty. Mind you, in the olden days you'd have to buy a unit for each thing. If you add up all the learning curves, maybe it's not really all that bad nowadays. It's just that you've got it all in one unit that makes it seem a lot. Tony
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Re: L1 Model 1s and tone match hookup with Voice Live 3

Royela ·
Hey there Tony Thank you for all the help you have given...I will certainly take all your advice and spend the next few days doing my home work on this!!! You have been very helpful and I surely do appreciate this!! Will let you know how I have come along!!! Again Thank you again!!! Roy
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Re: How to get stereo with Bose L1?

ST ·
Hi HY, Thank you for joining the Community. Wonderful. The L1® is mono. If your source is stereo (two channels designated Left and Right) you would require two L1®s to make stereo. T1® channel 4/5 combines the Left and Right channels to mono. Please tell us how you will be using your L1®. Will you be playing pre-recorded music, or using it for live performances? Thank you, ST
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How to get stereo with Bose L1?

HO YOUNG ·
Hi guys, I am going to buy BOSE L1 Model II system. One quick question is how to get stereo with Bose L1 system(only single system, not two for left and right). If the music source is stereo file then the single line array can make "Stereo Sound" or it requires one more system for Left and Right to make stereo? The stereo source can send T1 4/5 channel and then the single line array(speaker) can make stereo sound or it can be mono sound? Thank you for your kind help. HY
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Re: How to get stereo with Bose L1?

HO YOUNG ·
Thank you, ST, for your quick and kind explnation. I expected the stereo sound with just one "L1 Model II System". I am playing Saxophone with stereo back-sound source but it might be just one L1 system doesn't make stereo sound unfortunately. Having two L1 system is cost for me. Um.........@^.^@.... Thank you, HY
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Re: How to get stereo with Bose L1?

ST ·
Hi HY, Thanks for the added information. Let me suggest that you may not need to run stereo for your back-sound source. The L1® Model II has extremely wide sound dispersion. This means you don't need two systems to fill a room you may not need two to create a sense of fullness for your back-sound I have done many shows with background music during the breaks through a single L1®. No one has ever asked for stereo. I also know several solo performers who use a single L1® for backing tracks.
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Re: How to get stereo with Bose L1?

WalterM817 ·
I would think the wide dispersion of the line array speakers would negate any stereo imaging with 2 compacts. I have used stereo backing tracks with a single unit and when playing back normal stereo tracks you get a room filling sound with such an even volume thoughout the room that stereo would probably not add much for you. Recently I was able to set up in a huge shop of a friend of mine and he was amazed at the way the Compact was so even all over the room. Even behind a half wall on one...
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Re: Observations from "Foreigner Performs on Bose L1 Systems" video

JohnL ·
Hi Bruno, Yes, some people use the L1s in a traditional layout of FOH and stage monitor. Yes, this defeats the purpose of the L1. But, multiple L1s are more versatile to have than the traditional FOH/SM setup. I've used the L1s in almost all those configurations you mentioned. The reason for this is the same as all things audio related... it depends. I've used 2 Compacts as rear, side, and front monitors. And L1M2 as regular FOH flanking the stage. I've used 2 Compacts, and 2 L1M2 as rear...
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Observations from "Foreigner Performs on Bose L1 Systems" video

GLB Productions ·
As a live sound engineer who is new to the Bose approach I've been watching videos of bands using the L1 systems live to get some idea of different set up possibilities. On the Bose YouTube channel there is a video of Foreigner doing a gig in 2014 with four L1 systems. There is a good overall shot of the stage at this point in the video: https://youtu.be/sibKEEBlfWs?t=1m28s I noticed a couple of things I'd like to ask about: 1. The band has two L1s behind them and two L1s in front, the...
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Re: Observations from "Foreigner Performs on Bose L1 Systems" video

GLB Productions ·
Ah yes now THIS is something that I am looking forward to experimenting with - the idea that the monitors don't need a separate mix from the FOH and that you can tell the musicians with confidence that 'You're hearing the same thing I'm hearing'. My only concern is feedback at high levels because, line array or not, you can't change the laws of physics. Then you used the L1 compact for the string quartet did you have a mic on each player or one for the entire group? Bruno
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Re: Observations from "Foreigner Performs on Bose L1 Systems" video

JohnL ·
Stereo miking for the group. They were arranged in a U around the mics. I've had better luck with feedback when the kids were low, almost on the floor facing up. The musicians were blocking the L1 and we're about 2 feet away from the mics. L1 compact was about 3 feet behind the group. If the gig is indoors, you can also rotate the L1 to face off to the side to spread the sound around the room, while further minimizing feedback potential then you can run a higher gain. Close lapel miking also...
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Re: Observations from "Foreigner Performs on Bose L1 Systems" video

GLB Productions ·
Thanks ST, I've watched that video several times and am very keen to see how these ideas work out in practice - I've got a couple of tests lined up for the L1 compact this weekend. Will report back! Bruno
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Re: Observations from "Foreigner Performs on Bose L1 Systems" video

ST ·
Hi Bruno, "... you can't change the laws of physics." I think you'll find this interesting. The L1® Approach and the History of Amplification ST
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Re: Observations from "Foreigner Performs on Bose L1 Systems" video

JohnL ·
Hi Bruno, I'm not sure if you can see, but in this setup, I was miking an a cappella group and I was using 4 mics. The two condensers in the middle and if you look closely, you'll see two boundary mics on the floor. Those were directed towards the side singers. The reason for this was that having the singers between the mic and the L1, eliminated any potential feedback issues. The stand mics did double duty for the back singers and any soloists that stood up and moved closer to the mics. The...
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Re: T1 Channel 3 Not Working

Bose Pro Community Admin ·
Hello, Ron, I am sorry you are having trouble with your T1®. It sounds like your T1® will have to be serviced. Please call us. Bose® Product & Technical Support at (877) 335-2673 (U.S. and Canada only) Monday-Friday: 9:00 AM - 9:00 PM ET Thank you, Bose Pro Community Admin
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T1 Channel 3 Not Working

RonD ·
It appears that I have the channel 3 issue that others have ran into. Initially, it was noisey but now the sound via channel 3 only is very faint. I really love this system; please help.
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Re: T1 Channel 3 Not Working

Bose Pro Community Admin ·
PS We're in tomorrow and we're out on Monday for Labor Day.
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Hiss that gets louder with louder volumes

Lunasita ·
I bought the Bose L1 is this month. From Sweetwater, I heard it was supposed to 'run silently.' Lots of reviews also say this. I do a lot of a cappella and quiet stuff sometimes, so this sounded good to me. However the speaker tower has a white noise/hiss which gets louder with louder volumes, sounding to me like water running. I have a high quality Furman conditioner I'm plugging it into - not the wall. I checked all cables and mics. I also tried turning on just the tower with no Tonematch,...
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Re: Hiss that gets louder with louder volumes

Bose Pro Community Admin ·
Hello, Lunasita. Thank you for joining the Bose Pro Portable PA Community. Welcome. Please check the L1 Model 1S Power Stand. The Analog Input Trim should be turned all the way off. Do you still hear the hiss. A little bit is normal but most people cannot hear it if they are more than 4 feet from the unit. It should not be noticeable when you have music coming through the system. Please let us know about the Analog Input Trim. Thank you, Bose Pro Community Admin
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Re: Hiss that gets louder with louder volumes

Bose Pro Community Admin ·
Hello, Lunasita. Thanks for checking on the Analog Input trim. Please call us in the morning so we can do some voice-to-voice troubleshooting with you. Bose® Product & Technical Support at (877) 335-2673 (U.S. and Canada only) Monday-Friday: 9:00 AM - 9:00 PM ET Thank you, Bose Pro Community Admin
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Re: Hiss that gets louder with louder volumes

Lunasita ·
Excuse me if this posts twice. I don't see my answer, so doing this again. Yes, this analog input trim has been all the way off. But I still hear the hissing, including four feet away. And if I turn the volume up on Tonematch, it gets loud.
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Re: Hiss that gets louder with louder volumes

Lunasita ·
Thank you yes, I had done that. I still have the hiss though.
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