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T1® Gain Staging a Microphone

ST ·
T1® Gain Staging a Microphone
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T1® Gain Staging for Backing Tracks

ST ·
T1® Gain Staging for  Backing Tracks
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Re: How Do I Set Up My T1® for Backing Tracks (Analog)

Seagullman ·
Hi ST, that's another really informative video you've put out here.. I wonder how many of the "seasoned" users have actually thought about using the Prefs + Input Signal when gain staging. I must admit that I have actually done it (especially at the beginning as I was getting used to using/handling the T1). Mind you, I came from using a Yamaha AW 2400 so I was quite used to using digital mixers. I usually just set the Input Trim with the LED flicker as I don't usually have to run too hot a...
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How Do I Set Up My T1® for Backing Tracks (Analog)

ST ·
Here's a quick video to help you to set the input trim for the T1® for backing tracks or pre-recorded music. This is called Gain Staging. This includes a look at using the Input Level meter. The same principles apply for an instrument or line level input. Set the source to the highest level that you will need during the show, and then set the input trim so that you get solid green, occasional yellow flickers, and never see red. ... more information about the T1 ToneMatch® Audio Engine ST
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How do I set up my microphone with the T1 ToneMatch® audio engine

ST ·
Here's a quick video to help you to set the input trim for a microphone on the T1®. This is called Gain Staging. The same principles apply for an instrument or line level input. Set the source to the highest level that you will need during the show, and then set the input trim so that you get solid green, occasional yellow flickers, and never see red. ... more T1® Videos ... more information about the T1 ToneMatch® Audio Engine ST
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S70XS_user ·
Great video - explains things so simply. Thanks!
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Re: How do I set up my microphone with the T1 ToneMatch® audio engine

DrumrPete ·
Gain is often overlooked on the T1, or any mixer, by less experienced users. It's not always as important for analog mixers as it is for digital. Digital distortion is much more unpleasant. If you think gain is too low for the band mix, just bring up master and channel faders to compensate. I would also like to add, for those who have powerhouse vocalists. Actually have them YELL or SCREAM into their mic while setting gains. Because once the band starts up, the singers will push harder.
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Re: How do I set up my microphone with the T1 ToneMatch® audio engine

DrumrPete ·
BTW ST, your T1 is SO clean! Did you shine it up just for this video?
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Re: How do I set up my microphone with the T1 ToneMatch® audio engine

Seagullman ·
Hi ST, nice video. I think it's really great of you to take the time to make these videos to help the members. The new forum version really does make a lot of things easier (like this video for example), but you've still got to invest the time to make the video. You're getting a like from.me. @DrumrPete: "BTW ST, your T1 is SO clean! Did you shine it up just for this video?" Maybe he did, maybe he didn't Pete. I wouldn't put anything past ST. Maybe he regularly gives his things a regular...
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Re: How Do I Set Up My T1® for Backing Tracks (Analog)

troubador ·
You're doing some really good work here ST, and that's another "Like" from me. I'm looking forward to what's coming next. I second that ... great stuff from ST.
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Re: How Do I Set Up My T1® for Backing Tracks (Analog)

ST ·
Thanks Seagullman, Troubador, Here's the next one: How Do I use the T1® Noise Gate to Automatically Mute a Microphone?
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Re: How do I set up my microphone with the T1 ToneMatch® audio engine

Bose Pro Community Admin ·
@Tony Olofsson and @Seagullman Please see this new topic. T1® question: Electric Bass works but not Microphone. Thank you, Forum-Admin
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Re: How do I set up my microphone with the T1 ToneMatch® audio engine

John Fitzsimmons ·
Just what I needed. Thanks. I had an issue during a performance last night with a guest singer in a noisy room. I had to keep turning up the mic and master, but the feedback was precarious. Before this, I never knew quite what to do with those gain knobs. Now I do!
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Re: How do I set up my microphone with the T1 ToneMatch® audio engine

ST ·
Hi John, Thank you for joining the Community. I'm glad that you joined us. One thing I've found with some guest singers is a tendency to back off the microphone. Whether that's inexperience, someone who is microphone shy, or stage theatrics, trying to overcome bad microphone technique by turning up the volume almost always leads to feedback. I coach guest singers to stay on the mic. If they back off I use sign language or just tell them to eat the mic. If they can't be heard, I've learned to...
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Re: How do I set up my microphone with the T1 ToneMatch® audio engine

DrumrPete ·
Enough can't be said about singing ON the mic. I coach performers about this as well, over and over. Quite often, they will ignore my repeated requests. Like ST, I just have to let it play out with them barely being heard. One reason is probably their conditioning to singing with traditional PA, "let the sound man turn me up out front" syndrome. The other, and I was guilty of this as well, is fear of hearing yourself like you really sound. It can be a shocker, and I struggled, wanted to back...
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John Fitzsimmons ·
Thanks for the feedback (pardon the pun). Have a great New Year!
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correct inputs or no?

Joyof60 ·
Small venue combo, 4 piece, running three vocal mics, two instrument mics and a digital piano mixed down through a Behringer QX1202, main outs summed to the RCA inputs of the L1 Compact. Trying to isolate problems with volume cuts and swells. Happened now at two different clubs, first time lasted off and on through the first half of the show, then the second time only during the second half of the show. Power connections all were secured and all cords and cables test ok. No phantom power...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Joyof60 ·
Couple of years I think, Just recently began to use it though, we've only used it for maybe a month or so.
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Joyof60 ·
I've had it for a couple of years I think, only recently began to use it though. Only have used it for a couple of months.
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Joyof60 ·
Tony, thanks for the response, We are using SM 58 and 57 mics, I am running the 5th mic (a SM57) through the mono jack of the 5/6 channel. I have been running the piano, a Roland RD300NX, through the 11/12 channel as a stereo signal, out of habit I guess. I don't think running it mono will compromise any tones. I had been considering running the main outs through the Channel 1 (MIC) on the L1 and the piano and guitar (mic'd with a SM 57) directly bypassing the mixer through the L1's channel...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Seagullman ·
Hi Joyof60, welcome to the forum. Thanks for joining our community. 3 x Vocal mics + 2 x instrument mics makes 5 mics. As far as I can see the mixer has only 4 mic channels. How are you connecting the mics to the mixer? At the moment I'll treat that as probably being secondary. I can't say any more unless you can describe in more detail how you've got the mics/piano connected. The Compact (as with all L1 systems) is a mono system. This means that it cannot reproduce stereo. There are one or...
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ST ·
Hi Joyof60, Thank you for joining the Community. How old is your L1® Compact? ST
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Seagullman ·
Hi Joyof60, A microphone has less output than an Instrument (Guitar/Keyboards for example) but if it's working for you it's OK to use the 5/6 channel. Running the way I suggested is what the inputs and outputs L/MONO are designed for. It also saves on cable connections. Regarding the use of Channel 1 for microphones panned hard to one side, and channel 2 for instruments panned hard to the other side: This is one of the possibilities I meant when I wrote this: I would have suggested this in...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Seagullman ·
Hi Keith, actually the RCA's/3.5mm should sum to mono well because this is what Bose suggests using for iPhones etc. I wasn't thinking straight there. If you can, set up the Compact somewhere and feed it with mp3's (Channel 2 RCA or 3.5mm Input. If possible also run it a bit louder than normal living room volume. If it's OK there it should be OK at a gig. As I suggested in my last post: " Everything panned hard left and then to channel 2 set to line, with the SM 57 going directly into...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Joyof60 ·
Thanks again for the reply and help, greatly appreciated. I do understand the cancelling effect of signals/sound waves out of phase which is why my initial use of the channel 2 on the L1 was to use the RCA jacks somehow thinking they would stay separate, not sure how I thought that could happen in a mono unit but Bose has been doin wonderful things in unconventional ways for many years now. I am an advocate of all their products and own many, wave, acoustic wave, headphones, ear buds etc.,...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

ST ·
Hi Joyof60, Yes, that's completely normal. The input sensitivity of Channel 1 is higher than Channel 2 (1/4" inch input). Yes. ST
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Joyof60 ·
Sorry to cont. with the drama here, but should Channel 1 be considerably hotter than channel 2? I was able to recreate the power/volume drop while playing the piano through channel 2 and changed to the channel 1, just panned over with the trims both set a twelve o'clock and got a tremendous volume boost, like 10db or better. Is that normal, we've never really tried that much with channel 1, but you had mentioned in an earlier post that running the mic that I had running through one of the...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Seagullman ·
Hi Keith, Regarding the sensitivity of channel 1 compared to channel 2, ST has already answered this question. This is also why I suggested putting your 5th microphone through this channel should channel 5/6 on your mixer not manage to get the SM 57 loud enough. If you use this for panning all microphones to one side and putting them through channel 1 you can compensate for the extra sensitivity by keeping the signal going into it a little "cooler". One thing to remember with channel 1 is...
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Joyof60 ·
Thanks again Tony, Again, please understand that my statements are generally meant as questions stated to be sure if my thinking is correct. I'm one of those people who know enough to know how much they don't know. That should make me teachable, which I am more than eager for. The rationale for the 57 going into the stereo channel was thrown in to see if we are thinking correctly here. As is true with a lot, just because I can make it make sense in my head, doesn't make it correct I have...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Joyof60 ·
Thanks again Tony, and yes, all of your input has helped. I have never had the compact in the red except for when we first broke it out just to see how hot it would actually go. Currently I am trying to reproduce the volume cut with the elimination of other possibilities, i.e. Bypassing the mixer, using a different keyboard. I had read in a post somewhere here that the 1/4" input of channel 2 was a 'balanced Mono' input. Is this still accepting of a TRS "Stereo" input as that is the only...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Seagullman ·
Hi Keith, OK I can understand you wanting to do this. Are you having any success along these lines. From what you're writing it appears that the "loss of volume" is not always there. Correct. A balanced mono cable here is a TRS cable. The 1/4" input channel of Channel 2 will accept either a 1/4" mono cable (guitar cable) or a 1/4" TRS cable (stereo cable). The advantage of the TRS (balanced) is that it's not as susceptible to interference as a cable which isn't balanced. There is one other...
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Seagullman ·
Hi Keith, With your apparent interest to learn as much as you can, I can warmly recommend you have a look around in the Wiki. At the moment it's still apparently undergoing maintenance so it can't be accessed. At the beginning I was an extremely regular visitor there and learned a lot of stuff. I'm still there pretty regularly but I don't need to look for advice as much as I used to. The Wiki however never really ceases to surprise me with the amount of knowledge available there. The link to...
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L1 System - Intermittent Input Cut Outs

Ben ·
Good day, I have been having some problems with my L1 System. Channel 1 and Channel 3 sometimes cuts out during performance. Channel 2 and 4 still works perfectly. a simple power off and on resolves the channels working again, but for intermittent time periods. sometimes a complete gig and sometimes they cut out 6-10 times during a live show. This is very frustrating and I dont know why they are cutting out. Initially it was only channel 1 and now channel 3 also. I am concerned next channel...
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Re: L1 System - Intermittent Input Cut Outs

ST ·
Hi Ben, Thank you for joining the Community. This sounds like a hardware issue and there's not much we can do about that online. I'm sorry. Please follow the link below to find your local Bose Pro Support contact. Bose Professional Global Sales/Support Contacts Thank you, ST
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L1 Model II Power Stand - analog input blown

IketheProducer ·
This is one of the most embarrassing things that I've ever done...had a bar gig where we had to use a lift from the alley to get our gear up to the venue but the staff wasn't ready so we ended up short on time to set up. I'd been using my system as a bass amp and to mic the kick (T1) at smaller venues. The stage space was awfully cramped so our guitarist (who brought his PA) asked to run the monitor out from his powered mixer into my tower to save space since there was no room for wedges.
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Re: L1 Model II Power Stand - analog input blown

Nick-at-Bose ·
Hi Ike, Sorry for the trouble! We've all been there - short on time, mounting pressure.. and suddenly we just did something we wouldn't have if we had had the time to think. Please give us a call at 877-335-2673. We'll take the serial number and determine what the options are. We set up the repairs by phone and email a shipping label that you can use to send the product to our repair facility in Indiana. A repair typically take 3 weeks from the time you ship it until it is returned to you.
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How many inputs can an L1S handle?

rpboy ·
I am doing a gig with 4 vocals, two electric guitars, a keyboard, and drum kit. I am planning to mic all the instruments (including vocals and keyboard) and a mic on the bass drum. The music is 60's British invasion so no monster bass or overwhelming sound is needed. The room where I'll use the L1S holds 225 people. I would like some feedback as to whether I could use one L1S or if I need to augment the system. Thanks much!
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Re: How many inputs can an L1S handle?

ST ·
Hi Brian, Thanks for joining us. A whole bunch of questions for you. Have you had your L1 Model 1S long? How have you used it? (solo, band situations, DJ, or ?). Do you have a T1®? If not, what kind of mixer are you using? Are you using a B1 (or two) or a B2? What is the maximum number of microphones you have run with your L1® Model 1S? Will you be on an elevated stage? Do you have rough idea of the dimensions of the room? When you say you'll be mic'ing all the instruments, will you be...
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Re: How many inputs can an L1S handle?

ST ·
Hi Brian, First - I'm excited about your gig. That sounds like a blast. Keep the microphones close to amps and the volume modest; you should avoid runaway stage volume. (unintended volume wars). With conventional PA systems, we've typically run two loudspeakers in dual mono mode (everything panned up the middle). We had to do this because those usually have a horizontal sound dispersion of 90-100 degrees. You have to send the same signal to both of them, and you need two of them to cover a...
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Re: How many inputs can an L1S handle?

ST ·
Hi Brian, Thanks for all the new information. Great! You're familiar with the way your L1® Model 1S disperses sound and how to avoid feedback. You said, you mic your electric guitar. Do you mean you mic the guitar amp? What kind? Okay. You'd probably be fine for your solo show in this space, however if you want to get people moving you'd do better with a B2. If you want to mic the kick drum, you'll do better with a B2. If I was doing this show with two L1®s I would set up like this. Pan the...
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Re: How many inputs can an L1S handle?

rpboy ·
Thanks for the reply. Used the L1S for about 18 months as a solo performer. I mic my electric guitar, vocal, and go direct in with a sequencer. I use a Yamaha powered mixer where I use four channels (vocal, guitar mic, two channels for the sequencer). My system has one B1. For this band gig, I intend to rent (or borrow) an unpowered Yamaha mixer .The band will probably be on risers about 2 ft. high. I will need to cover a space approximately 25 ft wide, 40 ft. deep and about 10 ft high. Gig...
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Re: How many inputs can an L1S handle?

rpboy ·
Again, much thanks. The guitar amps will be small (15 or 25 Watt) most likely Fenders. Don't know where in NJ to rent another L1 or B2. I understand that the B2 has more bottom, but I'm not that concerned with that aspect of sound. Interesting that you recommend the panning thing. Using a conventional system for 30 years, I never panned anything for fear that the audience would hear only one side of the mix in a bar. Won't the "cocktail effect" happen with a Bose system even if there is not...
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Re: How many inputs can an L1S handle?

ST ·
Hi Brian, I figured you would be, but others may be following along. The panning only matters if we have two L1®s. Have I missed your point on this? Yes, and no. Sorry about that. Panning everything on the left side (yellow) - hard left to L1® #1 everything on the right side (pink) - hard right to L1® #2 Location of the audience members For people in the middle, the effect is going to be very similar to what they would hear if everyone were playing unamplified. As you move to the left or...
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Re: How many inputs can an L1S handle?

ST ·
Hi Brian, Loved the video. Thanks. Thanks for filling in the background about you as a production manager for a musical theater show. About the rental - you can post a note in Owner Networks Looking to rent or borrow L1® Model 1S or Model II in the NJ area in October If you were doing that gig here, I'd love to come to hear you play, and it would be no trouble to have an L1® in the trunk. Maybe someone closer to you would feel the same way. Cheers from the left coast of Canada! ST
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rpboy ·
Thanks for all your input and glad you had fun with the video - FYI I'm the guy singing lead. I did post something on the Owners Network and we'll see if anyone in the states is as forthcoming as you! Best, Brian
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rpboy ·
Hi St, I am well aware of keeping stage volumes low and close micing. Thanks for the tip on panning - I guess the L1S will allow the audience to get an overall sound perception even if certain inputs are panned left and right. Interesting. Is the panning affected by the shape of a room and the location of audience members? Just curious about that. Not sure about using the JBL's as main PA. If it were just me doing my solo act with my sequencer/electric guitar/vocal they would be fine. I...
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Re: How many inputs can an L1S handle?

rpboy ·
Yes. I understand the panning would only apply if I use two L1 towers. I was just surprised that panning left and right will still allow audience members to hear a balanced audio picture. Thanks for the info on room and audience configuration re panning options. I was a production manager for a musical theater show. We ran a mono mix in the same theater (1000 seats) every night - 250 shows a year. I learned that depending on how the audience was seated, I would hear or not hear certain...
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Re: How many inputs can an L1S handle?

ST ·
Hey Brian, I just remembered we have an article you might enjoy. Localization, Spaciousness and Reverberation ST
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Re: How many inputs can an L1S handle?

ST ·
Hi Brian, You can set your stage like this. Everything on the left side (yellow) - pan hard left to L1® #1 Everything on the right side (pink) - hard right to L1® #2 Put the L1® Model II with the B2 on the right side so you have the B2 supporting the kick drum. What model is your Yamaha mixer? ST
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