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Re: Using B2 as an upright bass speaker

ST ·
Hi jazzbikerguy, You can run a B2 from a Bose A1 PackLite power amplifier . You will still need a bass preamp to get your tone. The A1 is just an amplifier with no tone or volume controls. Do you have a bass preamp? ST
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Using B2 as an upright bass speaker

jazzbikerguy ·
Can I drive the B2 with something other (smaller) than the L1 series 2 power stand? I'd use it for upright bass.
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Re: Using B2 as an upright bass speaker

ST ·
Hi jazzbikerguy, I just looked up the MXR M81 . I can't predict how well this would work. Do you have a Model II and B1 or B2? If so, you can get an idea of how this would sound. Set up the Model II Power Stand without the Cylindrical Radiator (tower). It's okay to run it like that. Connect your bass to the MXR M81. Connect the MXR M81 to the Model II Power Stand Analog Input. Set the Model II Power Stand Analog Input trim to about 10:00 o'clock Connect to the Model II Power Stand to a B1 or...
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Re: Using B2 as an upright bass speaker

jazzbikerguy ·
Yes, I have an MXR M81 – is that as good as anything? In this scenario my bass goes through the M81 to the A1 to the B2, right? Are you aware of any bassists who use this as a primary standalone setup as opposed to something like an Acoustic Image TEN2? Edit: Removed some personal information that appears to have been included unintentionally.
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Re: Using B2 as an upright bass speaker

jazzbikerguy ·
Thanks, I'll give it a shot!
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Re: Using B2 as an upright bass speaker

ST ·
Great! Please come back and tell us what you hear. Thanks. ST
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Re: Using B2 as an upright bass speaker

Seagullman ·
Re: Using B2 as an upright bass speaker
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Re: 2 L1 B2 with 1 Tonematch with DJM900NX2 + CDJ2000NX2

ST ·
Hi Fabio, Thank you for joining the Community. I'm glad that you joined us. I looked up your devices (links below). The T1® does not support the digital connections provided by your devices. You can use the analog outs with cables like this. You could connect one device to T1® Channels 4/5 and the other to T1® Channels 2 and 3. Does that help? ST Links https://www.pioneerdj.com/en/p...specifications/#info https://www.pioneerdj.com/en/p...specifications/#info
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2 L1 B2 with 1 Tonematch with DJM900NX2 + CDJ2000NX2

Fábio Casanova ·
Hello! I just bought a pair of Pioneer CDJ2000NXS and DJM900NX2. Both have digital output and I would like to take advantage of it with my pair of L1B2, but I only have 1 Tonematch. How is it better used? Sorry for my limited English.
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Re: 2 L1 B2 with 1 Tonematch with DJM900NX2 + CDJ2000NX2

Fábio Casanova ·
Thanks for the quick feedback. I thought about turning on the master output of my Pioneer DJM900NX2 mixer similar to this installation. Does it work?
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Re: 2 L1 B2 with 1 Tonematch with DJM900NX2 + CDJ2000NX2

Fábio Casanova ·
Then I'll come back and talk if it worked. Thank you very much.
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Re: 2 L1 B2 with 1 Tonematch with DJM900NX2 + CDJ2000NX2

ST ·
Hi Fabio, Yes, that should work. ST
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Re: Using B2 as an upright bass speaker

jazzbikerguy ·
Seagullman - Tanks for your response; I didn't do my research on this, and your specs talked me out of it. I'm fortunate that price is not a factor - I'm just looking for my best option. I'm currently fixated on the Genzler BA 10-2. I was hoping to use my MXR M-81 with it, although I'd consider the matching Magellan 350 if anyone thinks there would be an advantage. My only concern is that I may want to have the possibility of a second instrumentalist (guitar) to use the same amp at the same...
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Re: Using B2 as an upright bass speaker

Seagullman ·
Hi jazzbikerguy, thanks for the update. You wrote: "My only concern is that I may want to have the possibility of a second instrumentalist (guitar) to use the same amp at the same time - is this not possible/a bad idea?" To be able to do this well and have the guitar sounding like a guitar your system would have to have a wider frequency response than a normal bass amplifier as the guitar frequencies are higher. This would definitely limit your choices and could well put up the price...
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B2 Bass module

Garry ·
Can I get clarification? I have a L1 model 1s with 1s power stand B1 bass module and T1. I am looking to change the bass unit to a B2. With my current power stand can I connect a B2 or do I definitely have to swap the power stand? The forum does imply you do have to change the power stand although I have a leaflet (Season for Music) that implies you can buy a L1 model 1S with B2 bass.
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Re: B2 Bass module

Garry ·
Hi ST and thank you for the prompt reply. The Guitar is a Tanglewood anniversary limited edition. According to Tanglewood there were only 60 units made in 2000 for UK and Europe distribution. It is a Dragon inlay. It is a nice guitar to play although not the best I have had. I do not feed this into the Bose L1 at the moment, just 2 microphones and backing tracks. The guitar plays through separate amp. Garry
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Re: B2 Bass module

ST ·
Hi Garry, Thank you for joining the Community. I am glad that you are here. Please tell us about the guitar you are holding in your picture. Is that a dragon inlay? Okay, back to business. Your L1® Model 1S can support: one or two B1 bass modules one B2 bass module You do NOT have to swap the power stand to use a B2. You can buy a B2 bass module separately. You can not use a B2 and a B1 at the same time. Does that cover it? Now please tell us about your guitar and your signal chain between...
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Re: B2 Bass module

ST ·
Hi Garry, It's nice to get to know you better. I like semi-acoustic guitars and dragon inlays. It's rare to see them together. I used to put a microphone on a guitar amp through the L1®. This was to use the guitar with the amp create the tone: and to let the L1® disperse it throughout the room. This allowed me to disperse the sound of the guitar along with the other sound sources running through the L1®. Later, I sought other ways to get the tone without a full amp and speaker cabinet.
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Re: B2 Bass module

Seagullman ·
Hi Garry, Welcome to the forum. I see that you joined us n December. ST's already answered your question, but I would like to speak to this: "I do not feed this into the Bose L1 at the moment, just 2 microphones and backing tracks. The guitar plays through separate amp." Do you play with a clean sound, or do you also rely on a certain amount of distortion from the amp? If you only play clean, then you could also play through the L1 and have the same horizontal audio dispersion that your...
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Re: B2 Bass module

Garry ·
Must admit I have thought about playing through the Bose but we play some 60s 70s pop and I do use a little distortion on a few. But I do feel that you can only ask so much for a device to handle cleanly, so I use my Vox for guitar. We have been to look at the L1 Model 2 with a B2 bass unit so maybe we can try the guitar in it later.
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Re: B2 Bass module

Seagullman ·
Hi Garry, Thanks for the further information regarding the guitar sounds. What I'm really trying to do here is to save on carrying equipment. There are many good pedal out there today which will give you a range of excellent guitar sounds and could be then fed directly into the T1. When all's said and done, you know yourself what you're looking for. We just make suggestions here and try to show you one or two possible solutions. I've adopted a few things which were suggested on the forum...
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No B2?

bmoney ·
Hello, I regularly perform DJ sets for a department store, and I'm always getting complaints about the bass with my L1 Model II. This despite having the module on the lowest bass setting. So I was wondering if it would be worth just running the L1 without the B2? I realize it's going to alter the overall sound quality significantly, but in the setting I play, that's really an afterthought. Any advice?
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Re: No B2?

ST ·
Hi bmoney, I had another thought about your problem. Are you set up beside a wall or in a corner? You may have heard that you can augment the bass by putting a B2 against a wall or in a corner. The opposite is also true. If you can get the B2 in the range from 2-7 feet from a wall, the reflection from the wall tends to reduce some of the bass frequency range in the audience (an interference effect). Even if you are not right next to a wall or in a corner, try moving the B2 a few feet in any...
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Re: No B2?

ST ·
Hi bmoney, Thank you for joining the Community. Wow! You got some great suggestions and advice from RF-Musiker/ Musician! One tiny point. You can run your L1® Model II without a bass module, but you don't want to. Your L1® wasn't designed to run without a bass module: It sounds terrible, but you won't damage the L1®. You will likely do irreparable harm to your reputation. What is your sound source? Do you have any way of dialing down the bass in that device? ST
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Re: No B2?

bmoney ·
Hi ST, Thanks so much for the info! Logistically, lugging around the B2 for this particular venue is always kind of a nightmare. That was also playing into my original logic. I use a Pioneer DDJ SX2 controller for my source. I can definitely reduce the bass on that.
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Re: No B2?

RF-Musiker/ Musician ·
L1 doesn't work without B2 or B1. When people complain about bass and/or volume level, there are many possible reasons. One of them could be, they simply dislike the music. If this would be, nothing helps, to fix it, than to change the music. But when I assume, that the kind of music is ok, I would use an equalizer. Sometimes the room has resonances, boosts about 100 Hz or absorbs mids or, or... The best would be, when you have opportunity, doing the sound check without customer. Play the...
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Re: B1 and B2 Amplifier

ST ·
Hi WirelessDJ, There were no detailed specifications at the link you provided. I didn't see that there's a variable low-pass filter. I did some digging and found more specifications here: http://www.daytonaudio.com/ind...oofer-amplifier.html . Does the powered speaker have a line level output? ST
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B1 and B2 Amplifier

WirelessDJ ·
Has anyone ever used a B1 or B2 with an external sub amp i.e. like this one https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SPA250-Subwoofer-Amplifier/dp/B0070Z81MW/ref=pd_sbs_23_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=J9ZMG7BS3BHTX8F3DFKE Would like to be able to use my subs with other speakers
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Re: B1 and B2 Amplifier

WirelessDJ ·
Yes, the active speakrs have standard XLR output, mono, full range, line level. This cheap amp does have a 40-180 hz filter. Theoretically it should work
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Re: B1 and B2 Amplifier

WirelessDJ ·
I considered the packlite but the packlite does not have a low pass filter or any adjustments. I need something that can take the signal from a powered speaker then send to the B1 or B2
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Re: B1 and B2 Amplifier

WirelessDJ ·
By the way, I am not recommending that this is a good product. Just used as an example.
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Re: B1 and B2 Amplifier

ST ·
Hi WirelessDJ, Bose makes the PackLite® Power Amplifier Model A1 specifically to be used with B1 and B2 bass modules. This is equipped with a proper Speakon connector to match the B1 and B2 bass modules. It also has a balanced input and comes with the appropriate cable for use with the L1® Model II Bass Line Out. I strongly recommend reading Kyle's introduction to the PackLite® to fully understand what it does. If you want to use a different amplifier then it should have specifications...
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Compact

Tony Vegas ·
I use the the compact for my smaller solo gigs and the M 2 w/ a B2 for larger solo gigs - In my band I use the M2 for mains and the C1 for monitors.....The C1 always amazes me! I had a L1 classic **** at a solo gig (larger venue) and finished w/ the C1 -- no issues! Last night the top tower on my M2 stopped working - finished with just the bottom tower.....is that a known defect? suggestions??
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Re: Compact

ST ·
Hey Tony, I just checked out http://tonyvegas.com/ That's some wicked tones you're getting. Are you running your guitars through and amp AND your L1® Model II? ST
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Re: Compact

ST ·
Hi Tony, Thank you for joining the Community. It's nice to meet you. My L1® Compact lives in the trunk of my car except when it's on a stage with me or saving the gig. How is your L1® Model II today? If you don't get sound from the top section of an L1® Model II Cylindrical Radiator® you can usually remedy that by powering down, disassembling the Cylindrical Radiator®, putting it back together, and firing things up again. Usually, the issue is that the connectors aren't seated correctly. If...
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Re: Gig setup question

Seagullman ·
Hi Scott, I would agree with everything that ST's said/suggested. As you're using a third party mixer "a Mackie DL1608", and only having to pan your signals to one side or the other (without having to plug into different mixers as you would if using T1's), you can very quickly change the positioning of your vocals/instruments from one L1 to the other should it fit your requirements/preferences better. I would, however keep to the idea that each vocal/instrument should only come from one L1.
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Re: Gig setup question

scottcald ·
ST, thanks for your answers. Would you place the other guitar in the same L1 as the bass in this setup? Our lead vocalist will play on a few tunes.
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Re: Gig setup question

ST ·
Hi Scott, Yes, I would put the other guitar in the same L1® as the bass. ST
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Re: Gig setup question

scottcald ·
Thanks, ST and Tony. Very much appreciated.
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Gig setup question

scottcald ·
Hi all, Have a gig coming up in a place I haven't been before, but a bandmate gave me an idea of the size of space we have and it's not huge. My plan is an L1 Model II w/B2 for the bass guitar on the right of the drums, and L1 Model II w/B1 on the left with mainly my guitar. I'm using a Mackie DL1608 so the lead vocal will be a smidge panned right (1:00) and my vocal in my L1 MII at 11:00. The lead vocalist will also play guitar on a few songs and I'll pan the guitars at 9:00 for mine and...
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Re: Gig setup question

Seagullman ·
Hi scottcald, If you're asking for advice here then this is what I would do. I wouldn't try to run stereo. I'd run both L1's as mono systems. I would pan your vocals and guitar to 1 L1 with B1 (hard pan 100% to one side). I would pan lead vocal and bass to the second L1 with B2(hard pan 100% to the other side). This gives you more headroom regarding the vocals and less chance of feedback because each vocal is only coming out of 1 loudspeaker. And one more thing, try to angle the microphones...
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Re: Gig setup question

ST ·
Hi Scott, Thanks for the picture. Agreeing with Tony, I wouldn't pan the inputs across the L1®s. If these were conventional PA speakers you might, but you shouldn't need to with the L1®s. The wide horizontal dispersion and relatively low drop-off in volume over distance overcome the need to have the same sound coming from more than one loudspeaker. If you are not right in front of an L1® (say, within a foot), the sound will diffract around your body . For a room with 150 people, I'd like to...
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Re: Gig setup question

scottcald ·
Thanks for the quick reply, Tony. It is helpful. What about the vocalist's guitar (only on a few songs)? Also, what's a minimum for us to be in front of it without essentially choking the sound from spreading out like it should?
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Re: Gig setup question

Seagullman ·
Hi Scott, this is just something I'd meant to include in my last post regarding the use of more than one Sub. I'm going to give you a link to a Wiki article on the B1. Keep the B1's together . The same also applies to the B2 and any other Subs you may care to mention. http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/inde...eep_the_B1s_Together I hope this was of interest and maybe of some help (if not now, then maybe in the future). Tony
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Re: Gig setup question

scottcald ·
Thanks again, Tony. Wow, I don't think I'd seen that scouting doc on the old forum before. Great and comprehensive, thanks! Yes, I'd like to be able to get there beforehand, but I'm relying on the vocalist's info. He set up the gig. My pedal has a looper function, so I'm going to try to record a verse of a song or just a repeating riff and have the other guys play while I meander and listen. The recorder is a good idea though. No plan to mic the kick, mainly because I think the drums will...
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Re: Gig setup question

Seagullman ·
Hi Scott, "This will be the first gig I'll try to have the bass player only going through the L1. He typically goes through his bass amp and I think it's been the source of some muddiness in the sound at past gigs. And I don't have control of it then either. " Depending on which Bass guitar he plays you may find a dedicated preset for it. Our bassman plays a Fender Jazz bass and he finds the preset for that really good. I also think that with a B2 there should be no need to have a Bass amp...
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Re: Gig setup question

scottcald ·
Here's a report on last Sunday's rehearsal. I brought all the gear with me (L1 II/B2, L1 II/B1, Mackie DL1608, cables etc.) to test this out. It worked out really well just as you guys suggested. I just did the hard panning in the 1608, dialed in sounds and it was great. The best part is I fit the B2, B1, 4 column pieces and 2 power stands, mic stand, guitar stand and music stand in the trunk of my 2008 Honda Civic. The other few items (guitar, mixer, container with cables) fit easily in the...
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Re: Gig setup question

ST ·
Hi Scott, Thanks for the report on last Sunday's rehearsal. If you turn up the L1® Trim controls, make sure that the trim light does not go red. If it does, turn down the Trim so you see only green and occasional yellow flickers. Good luck with the show next week. I'm looking forward to hearing how it went. ST
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Re: Gig setup question

scottcald ·
Back to report on the show. I think it went well as far as the L1s are concerned. Since I didn't see the space beforehand, it was an odd setup. I didn't get a clear photo, but below is a diagram of roughly how we were set up. We were in between entry doors and there was an odd partial wall sicking out for no apparent reason. This kept up from getting fully back against the wall. The drummer was able to get back a bit but then I had to angle the L1s a bit so he could hear them better. I could...
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Re: Gig setup question

scottcald ·
Hi ST, That is basically how we were set up. If the odd wall was only a knee wall or something, it might've been OK, but it went all the way up, which is why my L1 was in front. The other L1 had to be up a bit to allow the drummer's egress to the set. I actually stood off to the side mostly because if I was in front, it would block the path for people to come in. Te bassist also moved from side to front as space allowed. The drummer I think learned that he needs to pare down his kit. He had...
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