Tagged With "B1"

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Help! Advice needed on gear needed for DJ starting out

Stevie C ·
Hi Guys! My name is Steve and I'm based in Australia where I'm an acoustic singer songwriter entertainer for 6 months of the year in the outback Kimberley region in Western Australia. After years of singing and playing guitar with my Bose L1 Model 2, I'm looking to mix things up a bit (and give my throat a rest) by doing a DJ gig once a week - replacing one of my singing gigs and doing the occasional wedding. I have researched these forums extensively and have become a bit lost with all the...
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Re: Help! Advice needed on gear needed for DJ starting out

ST ·
Hi Stevie C Thank you for joining the Forum. Thanks for all the background information. Nice to get to know you. I think you'll be fine. This is very similar to what I do between sets. Have you tried using your L1® to play music between sets? I'll leave this for others. We have some notes here m(click the picture for details): That covers an analog connection. For a digital connection see: I've read, but cannot confirm, that you can use an Apple USB Camera connector with an iPad. There are...
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Re: B1 slipcover - want to buy

Bose Pro Community Admin ·
Hello Kkalb, We don't do buy and sell posts here. That's in the terms of service. I wasn't aware that the design of the slip covers for the B1s had changed. Have you talked to Bose Support? Call Bose® Product & Technical Support at (877) 335-2673 (U.S. and Canada only) Monday-Friday: 9:00 AM - 9:00 PM ET NOTE: If anyone wants to contact KKalb about selling slipcovers, please do that through a private message (NOT here in the public forum).
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Re: B1 slipcover - want to buy

KKalb ·
My apologies for the incorrect post! Thanks for the polite "correction". Duly noted and I shall re-read the guidlines. I spoke with Bose support today who discovered via some digging they changed the design around 2010. Glad to be a part of this community (and to own an L1 model II).
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Re: B1 slipcover - want to buy

Bose Pro Community Admin ·
Kkalb, Thanks for the update. Closing this discussion now.
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B1 slipcover - want to buy

KKalb ·
Anyone have an older style B1 slipcover (with handle flap) they want to sell? The newer style doesn't match what I already have and I need to replace one. Thanks!
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Re: B1 and B2 Amplifier

ST ·
Hi WirelessDJ, There were no detailed specifications at the link you provided. I didn't see that there's a variable low-pass filter. I did some digging and found more specifications here: http://www.daytonaudio.com/ind...oofer-amplifier.html . Does the powered speaker have a line level output? ST
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B1 and B2 Amplifier

WirelessDJ ·
Has anyone ever used a B1 or B2 with an external sub amp i.e. like this one https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SPA250-Subwoofer-Amplifier/dp/B0070Z81MW/ref=pd_sbs_23_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=J9ZMG7BS3BHTX8F3DFKE Would like to be able to use my subs with other speakers
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Re: B1 and B2 Amplifier

WirelessDJ ·
Yes, the active speakrs have standard XLR output, mono, full range, line level. This cheap amp does have a 40-180 hz filter. Theoretically it should work
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Re: B1 and B2 Amplifier

WirelessDJ ·
I considered the packlite but the packlite does not have a low pass filter or any adjustments. I need something that can take the signal from a powered speaker then send to the B1 or B2
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Re: B1 and B2 Amplifier

WirelessDJ ·
By the way, I am not recommending that this is a good product. Just used as an example.
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Re: B1 and B2 Amplifier

ST ·
Hi WirelessDJ, Bose makes the PackLite® Power Amplifier Model A1 specifically to be used with B1 and B2 bass modules. This is equipped with a proper Speakon connector to match the B1 and B2 bass modules. It also has a balanced input and comes with the appropriate cable for use with the L1® Model II Bass Line Out. I strongly recommend reading Kyle's introduction to the PackLite® to fully understand what it does. If you want to use a different amplifier then it should have specifications...
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Re: Gig setup question

Seagullman ·
Hi Scott, I would agree with everything that ST's said/suggested. As you're using a third party mixer "a Mackie DL1608", and only having to pan your signals to one side or the other (without having to plug into different mixers as you would if using T1's), you can very quickly change the positioning of your vocals/instruments from one L1 to the other should it fit your requirements/preferences better. I would, however keep to the idea that each vocal/instrument should only come from one L1.
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Re: Gig setup question

scottcald ·
ST, thanks for your answers. Would you place the other guitar in the same L1 as the bass in this setup? Our lead vocalist will play on a few tunes.
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Re: Gig setup question

ST ·
Hi Scott, Yes, I would put the other guitar in the same L1® as the bass. ST
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Re: Gig setup question

scottcald ·
Thanks, ST and Tony. Very much appreciated.
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Gig setup question

scottcald ·
Hi all, Have a gig coming up in a place I haven't been before, but a bandmate gave me an idea of the size of space we have and it's not huge. My plan is an L1 Model II w/B2 for the bass guitar on the right of the drums, and L1 Model II w/B1 on the left with mainly my guitar. I'm using a Mackie DL1608 so the lead vocal will be a smidge panned right (1:00) and my vocal in my L1 MII at 11:00. The lead vocalist will also play guitar on a few songs and I'll pan the guitars at 9:00 for mine and...
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Re: Gig setup question

Seagullman ·
Hi scottcald, If you're asking for advice here then this is what I would do. I wouldn't try to run stereo. I'd run both L1's as mono systems. I would pan your vocals and guitar to 1 L1 with B1 (hard pan 100% to one side). I would pan lead vocal and bass to the second L1 with B2(hard pan 100% to the other side). This gives you more headroom regarding the vocals and less chance of feedback because each vocal is only coming out of 1 loudspeaker. And one more thing, try to angle the microphones...
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Re: Gig setup question

ST ·
Hi Scott, Thanks for the picture. Agreeing with Tony, I wouldn't pan the inputs across the L1®s. If these were conventional PA speakers you might, but you shouldn't need to with the L1®s. The wide horizontal dispersion and relatively low drop-off in volume over distance overcome the need to have the same sound coming from more than one loudspeaker. If you are not right in front of an L1® (say, within a foot), the sound will diffract around your body . For a room with 150 people, I'd like to...
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Re: Gig setup question

scottcald ·
Thanks for the quick reply, Tony. It is helpful. What about the vocalist's guitar (only on a few songs)? Also, what's a minimum for us to be in front of it without essentially choking the sound from spreading out like it should?
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Re: Gig setup question

Seagullman ·
Hi Scott, this is just something I'd meant to include in my last post regarding the use of more than one Sub. I'm going to give you a link to a Wiki article on the B1. Keep the B1's together . The same also applies to the B2 and any other Subs you may care to mention. http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/inde...eep_the_B1s_Together I hope this was of interest and maybe of some help (if not now, then maybe in the future). Tony
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Re: Gig setup question

scottcald ·
Thanks again, Tony. Wow, I don't think I'd seen that scouting doc on the old forum before. Great and comprehensive, thanks! Yes, I'd like to be able to get there beforehand, but I'm relying on the vocalist's info. He set up the gig. My pedal has a looper function, so I'm going to try to record a verse of a song or just a repeating riff and have the other guys play while I meander and listen. The recorder is a good idea though. No plan to mic the kick, mainly because I think the drums will...
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Re: Help with product selection, PLEASE

ST ·
Hi Jim, Thank you for joining the Community. I'm glad that you're here. What are the dimensions of the room? (Length, Width, Height). Is there a stage? Is it raised? How high? This is where the question of dimensions of the room are important. If you plan to stay in this room until you outgrow its capacity, then we need to know the greatest distance between the performers and the listeners. Agreed. You can run the L1® Model 1S as low as you need to accommodate the space and the listeners.
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Re: Help with product selection, PLEASE

ST ·
Hi Jim, Perfect fit! This will work well. It is best if the listeners' ears are at the same height as the of the Cylindrical Radiator® array. The active part of the vertical tower is from 40" to 80" from the floor. If you were set up on the 3-4' stage, then you would need an L1® Model II. 36 feet is well within the effective range of the L1® Model 1S. The wide dispersion is where all the L1® models excel. You've got room to grow. The L1® Model 1S sounds like a great fit for you now and as...
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Re: Help with product selection, PLEASE

Jim_McCrum ·
Thank you ST. The room dimensions are roughly 40' deep by 80' wide. There is a stage area centered on one of the 80' walls. The stage extends back another 16' or so. It's raised about 3-4'. We don't use the stage. We set up on the floor. My intent is to place the sound system on the floor. Near but not against the wall behind us where we set up. The maximum depth of throw would be about 36' but there's potentially a wide disbursement that could be necessary down the road if and when we grow...
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Re: Help with product selection, PLEASE

Jim_McCrum ·
That's awesome, ST. Thanks for all the input. The room seems to be a little bass heavy so I figured the B1 would be sufficient for now. Based on the specs, sounds like I could always add a second B1 down the road if needed. I just order the system last night off Sweetwater. I started to second guess by decision. Sound like it was the right one all along. Once we take delivery and run our first Sunday with it, I'll let you in on the results. Thanks again.
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Re: Help with product selection, PLEASE

ST ·
Hi Jim, Yes, please come back and tell us what you hear and how you like it. Thanks, ST
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Re: Gig setup question

Seagullman ·
Hi Scott, "This will be the first gig I'll try to have the bass player only going through the L1. He typically goes through his bass amp and I think it's been the source of some muddiness in the sound at past gigs. And I don't have control of it then either. " Depending on which Bass guitar he plays you may find a dedicated preset for it. Our bassman plays a Fender Jazz bass and he finds the preset for that really good. I also think that with a B2 there should be no need to have a Bass amp...
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Help with product selection, PLEASE

Jim_McCrum ·
Hello all, I'm new to this forum. I've been browsing through the posts for the past week or so gathering whatever info I can on the L1 systems. I'm trying to determine what may be the best system to purchase without going way overboard. My apologies for the very long post. I'm currently part of a small church plant. We meet each Sunday in a rented multipurpose room belonging to a local school. The room doubles as gymnasium/performing arts theater. The room is capable of seating about 200.
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Re: Gig setup question

scottcald ·
Here's a report on last Sunday's rehearsal. I brought all the gear with me (L1 II/B2, L1 II/B1, Mackie DL1608, cables etc.) to test this out. It worked out really well just as you guys suggested. I just did the hard panning in the 1608, dialed in sounds and it was great. The best part is I fit the B2, B1, 4 column pieces and 2 power stands, mic stand, guitar stand and music stand in the trunk of my 2008 Honda Civic. The other few items (guitar, mixer, container with cables) fit easily in the...
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Re: Gig setup question

ST ·
Hi Scott, Thanks for the report on last Sunday's rehearsal. If you turn up the L1® Trim controls, make sure that the trim light does not go red. If it does, turn down the Trim so you see only green and occasional yellow flickers. Good luck with the show next week. I'm looking forward to hearing how it went. ST
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B1 Issue

steve j ·
Hi I had a gig recently, running my B1 with my L1 IS. After about two hours the B1 began making very loud distortions/rumbling/buzzing, which stopped the show. First time that happened. Room - conventional banquet room with 250 capacity Audience - 150 Settings - Trim on the bose stand was at half way. tone match: low at 4, mid at 4, high at 6. Active inputs - Vocal, guitar, ipod The B1 was next to the tower, both few feet away from the microhone. I turned the B1 off for a few minutes, turned...
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Re: B1 Issue

Nick-at-Bose ·
Hi Steve, I don't know for sure what happened. It may have simply been a processing issue in the power stand, but it's hard for me to say. Have you tested it now and it's working fine?
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Re: Gig setup question

scottcald ·
Back to report on the show. I think it went well as far as the L1s are concerned. Since I didn't see the space beforehand, it was an odd setup. I didn't get a clear photo, but below is a diagram of roughly how we were set up. We were in between entry doors and there was an odd partial wall sicking out for no apparent reason. This kept up from getting fully back against the wall. The drummer was able to get back a bit but then I had to angle the L1s a bit so he could hear them better. I could...
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Re: Gig setup question

scottcald ·
Hi ST, That is basically how we were set up. If the odd wall was only a knee wall or something, it might've been OK, but it went all the way up, which is why my L1 was in front. The other L1 had to be up a bit to allow the drummer's egress to the set. I actually stood off to the side mostly because if I was in front, it would block the path for people to come in. Te bassist also moved from side to front as space allowed. The drummer I think learned that he needs to pare down his kit. He had...
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Re: Gig setup question

ST ·
Hi Scott, Pardon me while I gear-geek-out for a minute. I understand how someone can end up with too much gear for a gig, although I usually manage to down-scale by leaving stuff in the car when I realise that the space doesn't warrant using everything I brought. Speaking of down-scaling, that Boss GT-1 looks really interesting. I had a Boss GT-100 and enjoyed the tones and the user interface. I was still using my Roland VG-99 . For what I was doing at the time, it didn't make sense to have...
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Re: Gig setup question

ST ·
Hi Scott, Thanks for coming back to tell us about your show. And thanks for doing the diagram. I'm posting your diagram here for others to see while they are reading along. I run into those pony walls every now and then. They are often remnants of some plan manage people flow through a space. I often see them with an aquarium or plants on top of them. Is this how you were set up in front of the drums? I can understand why you might want to try a Compact as a monitor for the Drummer. This...
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Re: Gig setup question

Seagullman ·
Hi Scott, thanks too from me for the gig report. It does sound as if it went well regarding sound. I too am not super happy if I have to set up where people are going to be moving around where I'm playing or where my gear is. Sometimes it's unavoidable, though. It seems however that you managed to get around the problem pretty well. It gives us the chance to appreciate places where we have a stage are are not having to dance around more than the audience . The idea regarding the Compact as...
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Re: Gig setup question

scottcald ·
No problem, ST. I enjoy the geek out! I had a GT-10, then I upgraded to the GT-100. The thing I love about the GT-100 is the dual paths you can set up for separate amps, AND split and put a slight delay (5-10ms) so they're nice and wide in stereo. That's nice for if you're a lone guitar player. I'm not a huge fan of chorus on an overdriven amp. I also loved that they give you the ability to move any effect anywhere. Line6 and Digitech don't do that. You have to stick with "conventional"...
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Re: Gig setup question

scottcald ·
Tony, thanks for the comments. As I said before, the Boss gets me tones I like. My one beef with the Boss units is no balanced outs. Seems like an unnecessary cost saver. Another bit of gear I've liked for its simplicity is the Tech21 Flyrig stuff. Nice amp simulation with reverb, plus a nice gain section and gain boost for leads. Also, the Delay section has a control called Drift which adds a chorusing type effect. And, it's light and small. The Kemper does look compelling, but my...
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Re: Gig setup question

Seagullman ·
I wasn't trying to tempt with the Kemper. I was just pointing out the dangers of geeking-out over gear and what happened to me. GAS has a way of raising its ugly head ... very very true ... Tony
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Re: Gig setup question

ST ·
Oh yeah, and then there's that. ST
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Re: Gig setup question

scottcald ·
The Fractal FX8 looks cool, but needs a built in expression pedal. Line6 just released the Helix LT with a few less I/O ports and a couple less features but a third less price. Might check that out. I prefer the all in one floor units rather than the rack mounted stuff. But, as far as the GAS, I can quit anytime I want to.
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Re: Gig setup question

ST ·
Hi Scott, Thanks for the photo. Yup - that's tight. I too have the Kemper Profiling Amp with the remote. And while that's great, I'm always on the lookout for something with a smaller footprint. That's especially appropriate when I'm going for a few basic amp models and not a lot of switching or the need for expression pedals (e.g. small jazz gigs). ST
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Re: Gig setup question

scottcald ·
ST, for those small jazz gigs, look at the Tech21 Flyrig pedals. All analog, the amp section sounds great and you can set the drive control to dial in a bit of dirt, very much like a Fender Twin. Also you could keep it clean and add the dirt in the distortion section. Also has Reverb, Delay with a chorus function, 1/4" in and out and power plug. It's about 10"x 2.5". Easily fits in a case or bag and it weighs next to nothing.
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Re: Gig setup question

scottcald ·
Got a photo from a friend of the show. You can see the cramped and odd area we had to squeeze into.
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Wanting to know how to set up all my instruments & Equip w/ToneMatch

Michael Marlon Majors ·
I have a Bose Series1 LII with a B1 Bass Module. I am a songwriter/performer. I have a MotifXS8 Keyboard, A S49 Native Instruments Midi Keyboard, Martin Acoustic/Electric Guitar, Fernandez Electric Guitar, Peavey Active Bass, I use Drums in Logic Pro X, I use VoiceLive 2 by TC Helicon for Vocals, I have Line 6 FireHawk Guitar Effects/Pedal, I use 2 mixers...Cakewalk v100 & Behringer Xenyx 802, I also use a Marshall Guitar Amp 250mg dfx. I also have 2 JBL Passive Speakers that I don't...
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Re: Wanting to know how to set up all my instruments & Equip w/ToneMatch

MattS-at-Bose ·
Hi Michael, Wow! What’s your goal? For live performance or for recording? Which instruments? It might best if you call L1 Support at 877-335-2673 for this question. The Analog Input on the power stand is available for general purpose line-level input (like a keyboard) in addition to the ToneMatch inputs. The Bass – Line Out is optional if you add a Bose PackLite amp with more subs. Honestly, this is unlikely. The ToneMatch hasn’t seen new preset development in a very long time. I recommend a...
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Alternate Class D power amp for B1 Bass Cabinet

Moon Dog ·
Just wondering if anyone else thinks there may be a lower cost alternative to the Packlite power amp. I would like to run my Compact with a B1 but would need a power amp. There has to be a small lightweight Class D power amp that would work for this application. Any ideas? Thoughts? Thanks. Moon Dog
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Re: Alternate Class D power amp for B1 Bass Cabinet

ST ·
Hi Moon Dog, You piqued my curiosity and I went hunting for a Class D amp that provides 250 watts RMS at 4 ohms like the PackLite Amp A1 . I couldn't find anything comparable at the price. Note: There's a promotion on in the US until June 30, 2017. Check it out: PackLite Amp A1 Note: For best results, whether you use the Packlite or another amplifier, you will want to add a third-party crossover. There have been several discussions about using the Rolls SX21 with a PackLite and B1 . Does...
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