Tagged With "powerful"

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splitting digital outs on T4S to run power separately and longer digital runs

CalebKent ·
since the power for the T4S is on 2 lines of a CAT cable, can i use a split to power the T4S from a power supply and then run my digital CAT audio over longer runs — longer than 50 feet. like even 300 feet. Edit Subject: Previously "splitting digital outs on TS4 to run power separately and longer digital runs" References to TS4 changed to T4S Bose Pro Community Admin
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Mod T4S to run off separate power

CalebKent ·
Can you use an adapter to power the T4S from the power supply unit so you can run the CAT 5 cable longer than the 50-foot limit? like 300 feet? Edit Subject: Previously "Mod TS4 to run off separate power" Changed reference to TS4 to T4S Bose Pro Community Admin
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No power

bobbyniemi ·
I think the fuse blew last night on my L1 Model I. How do I tell if it is blown? Also, I don't remember getting a spare fuse when I bought it.
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Intermittent Problems with PS1 Power Stand

Patty ·
We have two LI Model 1 systems that we purchased ten years ago for a small acapella chorus. One of the power stands is working intermittently. If we let it warm up for 15-20 minutes it works OK but we haven't tested it through an hour-long performance. I contacted BOSE and was told that the newer power stands will not accept the L1 Cylindrical Radiator Speakers that fit into our current base. Do I have any other option other than replacing both the power stand and the speakers?
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Using a powered mixer with an L1 Compact

smilnjac ·
My wife is starting to sing with me. Can we use a powered mixer to run both our vocals into the mic channel. Similarly I assume there is no way to use and in ear monitor system. I have an L1 compact system. edit title: Previously "using a mixer" Bose Pro Community Admin
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Powered Mixers

ST ·
We have a new article about using powered mixers with your Bose Portable PA equipment. Powered Mixers Please read the article before connecting a powered mixer to any Bose equipment. If you have follow-up questions, please reply to this post with A link to the owners manual for your powered mixer The model of Bose equipment you are connecting to the powered mixer Thank you. ST
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L1 Model II Power Stand replacement

Stephen 4 ·
Hi just as an off chance has anyone out there got the h shaped base plate that the speakers slot into mine was stolen from my car,it doesn't matter what condition its in and it does not have to be working as I have wired the speakers differently now but the home made stand I use is not that safe,like I said just the off chance cheers Edit Subject: Previously "Model-2"
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T4S Power supply

David Wyatt ·
I have a T4S mixer and the Bose recommended power supply. I am currently powering this with a portable lithium ion battery pack (Base S360 42000 Mha) which can be solar powered. This produces a modified sine wave AC connection which appears to work OK and power the mixer for several hours. The T4S feeds a Bose S1 Pro using its internal battery pack. However I have a question on whether a modified sine wave battery generator can damage the T4S or its Power supply brick? i also find that if I...
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Phantom Power for STAGG SCM200 microphones

gensy5 ·
All, My parents own a church and were given 4 brand new microphones that require 2 AA batteries. We are stuck. We cannot figure out how to get them working. We have a Tall Portable L1 I believe. Phantom power can be turned on and you'll find that on the back of it. As for the L1...I need to know if it has phantom power and DO THEY BOTH NEED TO BE ON? OFF? **Remember the microphones have 2 AA batteries in them** Thanks for your urgent feedback. Edit Subject: Previously "Phantom Power" Bose...
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No power on L-1 Classic

Bronzer ·
I have an L-1 Classic and have been using it since 2010. I play in a duo and we play every weekend, sometimes both Friday and Saturday night. I've never had a problem with the unit until last night. I set it up, connected the guitar and mics and turned it on. The green power light did not come on. I checked the power connection and it was good. I keep a test meter with me and I checked the fuse. It was okay. When I got it home, I checked the on/off switch with the meter and it's good. Any...
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Phantom Power adapter for the S1 Pro (not battery powered mixer)

ST ·
I use a Neumann KMS 105 with my ToneMatch mixer (to L1 Model II or L1 Compact). This microphone requires phantom power so I can't use it with the S1 Pro. Although I get great results with various dynamic microphones I'd still like to use the KMS with the S1 Pro. I haven't found an inexpensive battery powered phantom power supply but Heinz just wrote about this The Mackie M48 battery powered phantom power supply in his post Bose S1 headset (German content). Has anyone tried the Mackie M48? Do...
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Re: Tonematch phantom power ?

ST ·
Hi Rob, Welcome here! and congratulations on getting your Model II. Yes, you can safely plug in a guitar, keyboard or mp3 player into channels 1, 2, or 3 when you have the Phantom Power turned on. Here's a little background: The Phantom Power is only applied to the XLR connection in the channels 1, 2, 3 combo jacks. All the devices you mentioned would typically be connected using the 1/4" jack. Any properly wired XLR connection to a device or microphone that does not require Phantom Power...
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Re: Tonematch phantom power ?

Rob 4 ·
Thanks ST, that helps a lot! Gonna buy one a.s.a.p. You do not happen to know if Bose is planning on releasing an updated T1 with (slightly) more connections and/or Wifi-capabilities soon (that would be the ultimate upgrade)
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Re: Tonematch phantom power ?

ST ·
Hi Rob, If you're in North America - there's a 10% promotion on the T1® until the end of December. Bose never talks about products that may or may not be in development. If you can use a T1® now, then get it now. Hey, if you have a couple of minutes, please tell us about your music. ST
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Re: Tonematch phantom power ?

Rob 4 ·
I'm from Europe (the Netherlands), unfortunately no promotion for me. For now i'm testing the bose at different lociations with different setups (choir, open mics, acapella-groups). The T1 will mostly be used performing in churches and restaurants. As a pianist i'm into popular music and jazz. The model II is perfect for those kind of venues: finally i can hear my piano as it should be heard: natural, crisp and at a comfortable soundlevel. Love it!
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Re: Tonematch phantom power ?

ST ·
Hi Rob, Nice to get to know you. It sounds like you are really enjoying your L1®. That's great. Greetings from the left coast of Canada (Vancouver). ST
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Re: Tonematch phantom power ?

Seagullman ·
Hi Rob, Welcome to the forum from me too. ST's already covered everything you need to know eragerding the T1 (Tonematch). As we're "almost" neighbours I just wanted to say "Hi". I live in Gelsenkirchen in the Ruhr area of Germany (NRW). Just a question. Are there any videos of you (youtube etc) that are in the public domain? Thanks Tony
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Re: Phantom Power adapter for the S1 Pro (not battery powered mixer)

Oldghm ·
ST your link wouldn't work for me, try this one, O..
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Re: Phantom Power adapter for the S1 Pro (not battery powered mixer)

ST ·
Hi Oldghm, Both links are working for me. The Mackie M48 battery powered phantom power supply goes to the first link in the Google search results in your post https://mackie.com/products/m48
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Re: Phantom Power adapter for the S1 Pro (not battery powered mixer)

Oldghm ·
Hmmm for some reason your link gives me this: This site can’t be reached The webpage at https://mackie.com/products/m48 might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address. ERR_SPDY_INADEQUATE_TRANSPORT_SECURITY
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Re: Phantom Power adapter for the S1 Pro (not battery powered mixer)

ST ·
Hi Oldghm, Don't know what to tell you. The link works here on my PC, iPad, phone, Android tablet. I did a search online and ERR_SPDY_INADEQUATE_TRANSPORT_SECURITY seems to a problem that shows up in Google Chrome sometimes but the link works fine in Google Chrome from here. ST
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Re: Phantom Power adapter for the S1 Pro (not battery powered mixer)

FrankC ·
I brought the battery powered Mackie M48 because I wanted to use my Shure Beta 87A and SM35, with my S1 Pro. It works great for it's intended use. Then I thought I needed a battery powered mixer so I brought a Behringer 1002B which also has phantom power. Then I thought I wanted to try vocal harmony and extra inputs, so I brought a Boss VE-8 which is battery powered and also has phantom power. Now I have more phantom power than I need. Could have saved myself some money if I had brought the...
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Re: Phantom Power adapter for the S1 Pro (not battery powered mixer)

Archtop Eddy ·
Discussions about battery-powered phantom power have popped up a few times here in other threads. I'm sorry Frank didn't catch those before investing in a Mackie M48. With that said, I think the VE8 is a great purchase for the battery phantom power and the vocal harmonizer. And it also comes with a basic looper and other guitar effects such as chorus, etc. The VE8 can drain batteries pretty fast (especially in phantom mic mode), so I recommend getting a rechargeable lithium battery unit. I...
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Re: Phantom Power adapter for the S1 Pro (not battery powered mixer)

peterindc ·
I have the Behringer 1002B too, and I read that it supplies 23V of phantom power (apparently whether or not it's plugged in or running on its 9V batteries). A mic salesman told me that will work but is not optimal for running a condenser mic like my Shure PGA98H clip-on for sax & other wind instruments, which can take a full 48V. So you still might be happy interposing the Mackie M48 for full 48V phantom power from a battery-operated device. (I also have some older ART and Stewart...
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Re: Phantom Power adapter for the S1 Pro (not battery powered mixer)

ST ·
Hi peterindc, Your Shure PGA98H specification sheet shows it requires 11-52 VDC phantom power. Please tell us if you notice a difference in performance at 23 volts compared to 48 volts. I've run all my phantom powered microphones with various battery power supplies from 18-24 volts. I've not had any difficulties. I did some hunting around trying to find out what "not optimal performance" might mean. I couldn't find anything about the difference between lower-than-48-volts and 48 volts -...
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Re: Phantom Power adapter for the S1 Pro (not battery powered mixer)

peterindc ·
Thanks ST, more great info. Interesting to know that condenser mics vary so much in their demands, and that it's not just the voltage but the amperage that matters. It sounds like the Behringer 1002B will probably push a Shure PGA98H just fine from the one 9V battery dedicated to its 23V phantom circuit (see pic from the user manual). However when I'm using the S1 as a monitor for our saxophone quintet, that will be 5-6 clip-on condenser mics (2 for the bari sax), all drawing on that one 9V...
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Re: Phantom Power adapter for the S1 Pro (not battery powered mixer)

FrankC ·
From my own experience I've found that with Allen & Heath ZED10FX and its built in phantom power, my condensers Shure sm35 & 87A sound much better than with the Behringer 1002B. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with the lesser phantom power, or just the A&H is a much better mixer overall. I've used the Mackie M48 to directly plug into the Bose S1 pro and the sound is also better than with the 1002B.
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Re: Phantom Power adapter for the S1 Pro (not battery powered mixer)

Oldghm ·
I'm having trouble imagining how monitoring 5 saxophones through one S1 Pro could be effective. I'm not a sax player, and have not played in a band with a sax player since 1969, so forgive me if I'm overlooking something that is obvious to a sax player. I can't imagine a scenario where I would consider playing a gig with four or five other guitar players and running all of them through a single amp / speaker of any kind. O..
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Re: Phantom Power adapter for the S1 Pro (not battery powered mixer)

peterindc ·
Good point! I'll let you know how it goes using the S1 as a floor monitor. Sound pressure from an acoustic sax ensemble is probably quite a bit lower than 4-5 electric guitars, so that's in our favor. It's closer to a string quartet than a rock band for sure. We sit in a semicircle, and will be running our clip-on condenser mics into the Behringer 1002B for a mix, then out to two powered Samson 106w speakers pointed at the audiences on the DC Wharf, at farmers markets, and other outdoor...
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Re: Mod T4S to run off separate power

ST ·
Hi CalebKent, To run lines longer than fifty feet, Bose recommends you use a balanced analog connection. ST
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Re: Mod T4S to run off separate power

ScubaBadger ·
Would love to know what a 300 ft job is. As a singer I’d imagine delay must be huge?
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Re: Mod T4S to run off separate power

CalebKent ·
i work in a convention center. 300 ft is not very long. i'd like to run 'side fills' for 3D sound where one l1 is on one side of the audience and one on the other — like headphones. there's no delay issues as its all program music (not live). imagine the mixer is 50 feet to the edge of the stage and the speaker is 250 ft from the stage. the delay is about 220ms. or imagine i was running a delay speaker into another room at a wedding. or imagine i was mixing from a balcony but my speakers...
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Re: Mod T4S to run off separate power

ST ·
Hi CalebKent, For the applications you've described, a balanced cable will serve you well. I use a wireless solution instead of a cable. It's more money, but it saves a lot of time. I have older Shure wireless gear that was designed for a mic or instrument input. The system includes a body-pack and a receiver. I'm not specifically recommending Shure products. There are more choices for this kind of equipment now than when I got mine.
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Re: Mod T4S to run off separate power

CalebKent ·
i have 12 Audio-Technica 4000 series systems (one 5000), and i know the differences between un/balanced and analog/digital and wired/wireless. the only reason i have interest in a T4S is that i can run digital out of my laptop into the T4S and digitally out of it into the L1 with only 1 A-D conversion. i use balanced low impedance now. and if i stayed that way would just get a better DJ mixer. let me just ask this: the recommended max length on the powered digital out is 50' (due to power...
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Re: Mod T4S to run off separate power

ST ·
Hi CalebKent, There's little if any audible difference between the analog and digital connections from the ToneMatch mixer to the L1. It's more convenient to use the ToneMatch port (digital) because you don't have to do any gain-staging. In the situations you described above, I doubt you'd hear a difference between digital and analog connections. Here's what Bose has said. Cable Length Up to 50 feet A 33 or 50 footer will not cause any problems, either with the digital audio (ones and zips)...
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Re: No power

ST ·
Hi bobbniemi, Welcome to the Bose Portable PA Community. I'm sorry your L1 Model I stopped working. If the power light won't come on when you turn on the power, it could be the fuse. You can find out more about the fuse here: Fuse ST
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Re: No power

bobbyniemi ·
I found my spare fuse, switched it and still no power.
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Re: No power

ST ·
Hi Hi bobbniemi, I'm sorry replacing the fuse didn't help. Please call Bose Support to see if they have any other ideas. Bose® Product & Technical Support at (877) 335-2673 (U.S. and Canada only) Monday-Friday: 9:00 AM - 9:00 PM ET Other regions Thanks, ST
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Re: Powered Mixers

Bose Pro Community Admin ·
Hello, jdoc. Please see this new discussion for your question. Connect Carvin XP1000L to T4S and L1 Model II Thank you. Bose Pro Community Admin
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Seagullman ·
Hi Joyof60, welcome to the forum. Thanks for joining our community. 3 x Vocal mics + 2 x instrument mics makes 5 mics. As far as I can see the mixer has only 4 mic channels. How are you connecting the mics to the mixer? At the moment I'll treat that as probably being secondary. I can't say any more unless you can describe in more detail how you've got the mics/piano connected. The Compact (as with all L1 systems) is a mono system. This means that it cannot reproduce stereo. There are one or...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Joyof60 ·
Tony, thanks for the response, We are using SM 58 and 57 mics, I am running the 5th mic (a SM57) through the mono jack of the 5/6 channel. I have been running the piano, a Roland RD300NX, through the 11/12 channel as a stereo signal, out of habit I guess. I don't think running it mono will compromise any tones. I had been considering running the main outs through the Channel 1 (MIC) on the L1 and the piano and guitar (mic'd with a SM 57) directly bypassing the mixer through the L1's channel...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

ST ·
Hi Joyof60, Thank you for joining the Community. How old is your L1® Compact? ST
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Joyof60 ·
Couple of years I think, Just recently began to use it though, we've only used it for maybe a month or so.
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Joyof60 ·
I've had it for a couple of years I think, only recently began to use it though. Only have used it for a couple of months.
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Seagullman ·
Hi Joyof60, A microphone has less output than an Instrument (Guitar/Keyboards for example) but if it's working for you it's OK to use the 5/6 channel. Running the way I suggested is what the inputs and outputs L/MONO are designed for. It also saves on cable connections. Regarding the use of Channel 1 for microphones panned hard to one side, and channel 2 for instruments panned hard to the other side: This is one of the possibilities I meant when I wrote this: I would have suggested this in...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Joyof60 ·
Thanks again for the reply and help, greatly appreciated. I do understand the cancelling effect of signals/sound waves out of phase which is why my initial use of the channel 2 on the L1 was to use the RCA jacks somehow thinking they would stay separate, not sure how I thought that could happen in a mono unit but Bose has been doin wonderful things in unconventional ways for many years now. I am an advocate of all their products and own many, wave, acoustic wave, headphones, ear buds etc.,...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Seagullman ·
Hi Keith, actually the RCA's/3.5mm should sum to mono well because this is what Bose suggests using for iPhones etc. I wasn't thinking straight there. If you can, set up the Compact somewhere and feed it with mp3's (Channel 2 RCA or 3.5mm Input. If possible also run it a bit louder than normal living room volume. If it's OK there it should be OK at a gig. As I suggested in my last post: " Everything panned hard left and then to channel 2 set to line, with the SM 57 going directly into...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Joyof60 ·
Sorry to cont. with the drama here, but should Channel 1 be considerably hotter than channel 2? I was able to recreate the power/volume drop while playing the piano through channel 2 and changed to the channel 1, just panned over with the trims both set a twelve o'clock and got a tremendous volume boost, like 10db or better. Is that normal, we've never really tried that much with channel 1, but you had mentioned in an earlier post that running the mic that I had running through one of the...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

ST ·
Hi Joyof60, Yes, that's completely normal. The input sensitivity of Channel 1 is higher than Channel 2 (1/4" inch input). Yes. ST
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Seagullman ·
Hi Keith, Regarding the sensitivity of channel 1 compared to channel 2, ST has already answered this question. This is also why I suggested putting your 5th microphone through this channel should channel 5/6 on your mixer not manage to get the SM 57 loud enough. If you use this for panning all microphones to one side and putting them through channel 1 you can compensate for the extra sensitivity by keeping the signal going into it a little "cooler". One thing to remember with channel 1 is...
 
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