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Philip to Bose Community...HELP!!!!

Banjoman ·
Guys, I'm a fair musician, but I'm a lousy technician. I have (2) L1 Portables and T1 . My group consists of 3 people: myself on 5 string Deering Banjo and Taylor 200e acoustic plus vocals (SM58), a female vocalist on an SM58, and another acoustic guitarist on a Taylor acoustic 400 series who does limited vocals. How should I set the T1 to play mid-size coffee shop venues? Suggestions gratefully appreciated.
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Re: Philip to Bose Community...HELP!!!!

ST ·
Hi Banjoman, Welcome to the Bose Portable PA Community. What model L1 systems do you have? What Model L1® do you have? ST
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Bose l1 base case?

norpal ·
Can somebody help me? i am looking for cilindrical case for my bose L1 classic , anyone know where can i buy it ? Thanks in advance for your help
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ST ·
Hi norpal, Are you looking for a long bag for one of the sections of the Cylindrical Radiator®? If so, you can probably order one from Bose Support. The size of the Cylindrical Radiator® bags is the same for the L1 Classic, L1 Model 1, and L1 Model II. If you are looking for a bag for the power stand (semi-circular shape), these were discontinued years ago. ST
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Stacking Bose F1 Subwoofer

DJ8X ·
I don't know if this has already been posted. But I just discovered that the Bose F1 subwoofer is physically designed for stacking multiple Subs one on top of the other. I was just playing around with the sub and laid it on its side and notice something strange about the frame. Again like I said if this has been posted already please excuse me
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Re: Stacking Bose F1 Subwoofer

Bose Pro Community Admin ·
Hello, DJ8X. Thank you for asking for clarification. The F1 Subwoofers should NEVER be stacked . You can lock them together side by side for transport. Bose Pro Community Admin
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Re: Stacking Bose F1 Subwoofer

Bose Pro Community Admin ·
To All! Bose recommends that you DO NOT STACK the F1 Subwoofers . The locking feature is for transport only. Note: There is no advantage to stacking the F1 Subwoofers. Placing units side by side will have the same acoustic coupling effect as stacking. Bose Pro Community Admin
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Two S1 Pros vs. Bose F1 + Sub System

TheFocusElf ·
I currently have the Bose F1 (single) and a single F1 Sub. Clearly a mono setup. The space is about 750sq feet - of which the F1 occupies about 1.5-2% of that space. I find it to be a bit of overkill for my space, and, it is setup in a mono format. In either case, the F1 is receiving a Line In from a 16 channel mixer, and the S1's if I bought them and replaced the F1 would too benefit from a separate mixer. Things I like: 1) Built in Bass (unlike the L1 Compact that I returned before buying...
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Re: Two S1 Pros vs. Bose F1 + Sub System

Oldghm ·
Just a couple of comments. I don't think the size of the space, in this case, is as critical as knowing what the ambient noise level will be that the music is playing over, or under as the case might be. A loud reverberant room might well be too much for 2 S1's, while a quiet space would be fine. The dispersion pattern of the S1 Is 40 degree vertical and 100 degree horizontal, when upright. If you lay it on it's side that dispersion pattern changes to 100 degrees in the vertical plane and 40...
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F1 - Questions for Bose

Bose Pro Community Admin ·
This discussion started 2015/4/15 for early questions just after the F1 Model 812 and F1 Subwoofer were announced. This was before they started shipping in fall 2015. We're closing this discussion but keeping it available so you can read through and enjoy the historical perspective. If you have questions or comments about the F1 Model 812 and F1 Subwoofer, please start a new discussion topic . Thank you. Forum-Admin Original post follows below. Please post your questions to Bose about the F1...
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Bose Pro Community Admin ·
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ST ·
Hi ST, Yes in the 'Straight' position, the beam width will likely be narrow enough to avoid reflections from the ceiling and floor. PG Restating my question posted above to exclude surprisingly controversial references that as it turns out were not germane to the question. For me, the full sized L1 systems have been really well behaved in large reverberant spaces. There seems to be very little sound going up to bounce around and come back down. There's been far less unwanted reverberation.
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

paul-at-bose ·
Hi invisibleDJ, Yes you can use your ToneMatch Audio Engine to drive a pair of F1 Model 812s in stereo or mono. Just use the config that you would use for the LI. Just make sure you use the ToneMatch external power supply.
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

paul-at-bose ·
Hi PMWizard, The F1 system is designed for use with ensembles with drums and guitars. Differences between F1 and L1 are: - More Power - The array is flexible and not fixed - You can daisy chain F1 units together. To cover larger halls, ideally, you would have a left and right system stack. As far as room coverage, what are you planning to do?
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

paul-at-bose ·
Hi Stu This is good question... The bottom F1 Model 812 has a specially designed key that locks into the F1 stand. The fit is snug and secure. Please keep in mind that we need to pass safety tests before releasing a product like this. At the time o the video shoot, the stand was as secure as a standard tripod. We have even improved the design since then. Another advantage to the stand, is that you can rest the speaker on it until you find the key. This way, you are not hunting for a pole cup...
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ST ·
Hi InvisibleDJ, I'll post a link here when I've got that done.
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ST ·
Hi Paul, Please tell us when we'll be able to buy an F1, and the price. Will these be available to hear/demo through the same retail outlets as the L1®?
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ST ·
Hi again Paul, Will the F1 have the same return policy as L1 (45 days when purchased directly from Bose)?
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

paul-at-bose ·
Hi PMWIZARD, I can't accurately speak to coverage performance based on the specs you gave. To be honest, it's going to depend on the size of the space, how reverberant it is and how loud your band is. As you know, a drummer is going to excite the natural state of a space much differently than an acoustic guitar player. (or an acoustic player through an L1) For reference, we just used the F1 System in a stereo config in NOLA. The band was a rock trio. The space was fairly reflective with...
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

paul-at-bose ·
Hi ST, My expectation is that product availability will be at the end of August. Pricing is: F1 Model 812 = $1199 (USD) F1 Subwoofer = $1199 (USD) Thanks! PG
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

paul-at-bose ·
Sorry. Yes. Through US direct channels only.
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ST ·
Hi John, You can find all the physical data here: F1 Physical Data ST
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paul-at-bose ·
Hi Steve, F1 systems will be available for purchase in August. Thanks for your interest! PG
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

atlantadj ·
I am primarily a wedding Dj. Guests could be up to 500 in a normal ballroom setting. Currently use both the L1/B2 system and the Bose Platinum System (802III & 502BP). With the platinum system I start with the tops pointed outward to cover the seated guests for intros and speeches etc, then turn them inward to cover the dance floor for dancing. Could the F1 system be pole mounted so that the arrays can be turned if needed? I am disappointed that Bose did not come out with a more powerful...
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

paul-at-bose ·
Hello Atlanta DJ. I attempt to answer your questions here: >Could the F1 system be pole mounted so that the arrays can be turned if needed? Yes. There is a standard size pole cup on the bottom of the 812. >What is the throw as compared to a L1 tower and a 802III? The 812 is capable of 132dB SPL (Peak). The 802 has a peak output level of 122dB SPL. >How is the 1000 watts assigned to the woofer and the array? The F1 Model 812 utilizes a 1000 Watt bi-amplified design. One amp powers...
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

Andy Lancaster ·
How does this unit compare with the L1? I recently (about 6 months ago) purchased dual L1 II's for Mobile DJ'ing (primarily pre-recorded music). Would I see a noticeable improvement in SPL level and sound quality if I traded in the towers for two F1 units? I play lots of bass heavy content (rap, pop, etc). I know dual 10" drivers have slightly more surface area than a single 12" driver, but the F1 also has double the amount of power than the L1 II. I planned on eventually adding two more...
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

atlantadj ·
Thanks Paul! You forgot to include the output level for the L1 tower. What is the power output for each of the two amps? While the 812 has a pole mount, why not a pole mount on the Base bin? using the built in stand does not allow the 812 to be turned. Adding a tripod stand makes the whole thing look ugly like traditional speakers.
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

paul-at-bose ·
>You forgot to include the output level for the L1 tower. Ahhh...sorry about the.; L1 Model II has a peak output of 121dB SPL >What is the power output for each of the two amps? One 500 Watt amp is assigned to the Mid array, the other 500 watt amp is assigned to the woofer. >why not a pole mount on the Base bin? We wanted to design a stand that was specific to the F1 system. That said, in my experience, the mains are not usually splayed too widely. If users need to turn the system,...
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ST ·
Here's a question that came in on the German forum: Question: Does the F1 Model 812 or F1 Subwoofer have passive cooling? Answer: There are no fans but there are heat sinks.
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ST ·
Hi OneManBand, This looks like a great way to use the different patterns. There will be more news about the F1 when they become available (soon).
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

ST ·
Hi OneManBand, The F1 horizontal dispersion is 100° and being narrower than the L1®, you will probably use two F1 systems for most events. This will give you more control over where the sound goes - just by turning the F1 system to face the area where you need to direct the sound. I really appreciate the extremely wide coverage we get with the L1® but sometimes you just can't get away from the sound. That's not usually a problem for me although I appreciate that your shows are probably...
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

alcools ·
Hi I actualy use 2 L1 Model 1, with 4 B1. We are a band of 5 musicians, rock cold wave. I appreciate using L1 without return speakers and with very rare larsen. Do the F1 system have the same larsen resistance than the L1 if I use it without returns (at the same level of course) ?
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

djvazquez ·
I currently have a pair of L1 Series Model II stands with B2 subs. Occasionally when I play smaller venues I will use a single L1 M2 and use both of the B2 subs for more low end resonance. Would there be an issue with using the F1 Subwoofer instead of a pair of the B2s? I realize, that surface area would be decreased by half, by going with 1 pair of 10" subs versus having 4 10" subs running. The output power of the L1 stand is 250 watts to a single B2, as it is the same with the packlite amp...
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ST ·
Hi Steve, I can answer the physical question. The B2 is 17.7" from front to back. The F1 Sub is 17.8" from front to back. I just measured the distance between the legs on my Model II. It's 19.5" So there's room to spare there. The F1 Sub should fit between the legs, but it is 3" wider so it will project out farther from the Cylindrical Radiator® The B2 is 13.3" wide The F1 Sub is 16.3" wide
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ST ·
Hi again Steve, While we're waiting for an answer from Bose, indulge me in a little fun speculation. I can imagine two ways of approaching this. Source to Model II to Model F1 Sub Connect the source to the Model II Power Stand. Then take the Bass Line Out from the Model II Power Stand and run that to the F1 Sub. The Model II Power Stand Bass Line Out is EQ'd for the B2. It will be interesting to see how that sounds. Source to Model F1 Sub to Model II] If you were to run your source into the...
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

djvazquez ·
I thought about how it would interconnect, and my preference would be to run to the F1 sub first and use the line out to go to the array. I don't think that I would use the HPF though, since the L1 M2 stand already does it's job of filtering out the frequencies between the array and the B2. I could use the bass line out also, not too sure if there would be a difference in frequency response between the F1 sub without a filter versus through the line out of the L1 M2. It would have to be...
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

paul-at-bose ·
Hi Steve, >Would there be an issue with using the F1 Subwoofer instead of a pair of the B2s? I wouldn't say there would be a specific issue. However, since the F1 sub is not tuned like a B2, I wouldn't recommend this use case. I have tested the F1 Sub with a and L1 Model II and was not satisfied. That said, you can experiment and see if that config fits your needs. PG
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

djvazquez ·
Thanks for the response Paul, can you elaborate on what you were unsatisfied with? To be honest, I don't know that I want to spend $1200 on a speaker to experiment, but if you could give me some insight on what your expectation of the F1 sub versus the results you experienced, if would help set my expectations.
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alcools ·
You forgive my question ? My english is not very good, but I'm trying to do my best. For resume : Can I use the F1 like a L1 ?
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

paul-at-bose ·
Hi Steve, >can you elaborate on what you were unsatisfied with? Since the F1 Sub is tuned for the F1 Model 812, I found the crossover point to be too low when used with and L1. The B2 slope is at a hugher frequency than the F1 so it's a better match for the L1.
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

ST ·
Hi Alcools, The F1 is designed to be used as a Front of House system set up as a pair on either side, at or near the front of the stage. The performers will be between and likely, slightly behind the F1s. Yes, you will need stage monitors (return speakers). Yes, this is different from the L1s that were designed to be placed behind the performers. If you put the F1s behind the performers you may get more feedback (larsen) than with the L1s - at the same level (if we are talking about the same...
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

StuartD ·
Hello, I am seriously considering a set of these F1 speakers. I have started seeing them for sale everywhere but what I have not seen any mention of are the covers that are available for them. These are way too expensive of a speaker for me to be transporting them without covers, and I won't be able to order a transport case for them until I have them in my hands and can measure things, etc. That said... 1. If I order from Bose on 8/31 will it be possible to get them on or before September...
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

ST ·
Hi Stu, Paul-at-Bose isn't available this morning so I did some checking for you. You can pre-order your F1 system on the Bose site That pre-order is for shipment on August 31st with free shipping. What it doesn't say on the site is that shipping is 3-6 business days, but I called in and got that added information. If you want to call instead of placing the order online here's the number. 1800 792 7197 extension 62683 You can't order covers right now. But give me a couple of minutes and I'll...
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

ST ·
Hi Stu, Info that you could use to build cases. F1 Model 812
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ST ·
Hi Stu F1 Subwoofer
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

StuartD ·
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ST: Hi Stu, Paul-at-Bose isn't available this morning so I did some checking for you... You can pre-order your F1 system on the Bose site Hello ST, Thank you for checking into this for me. Without a doubt you represent the pinnacle of Customer Service. Your picture should be in the dictionary under "Customer Service". I was at the wrong site. I went here but couldn't find any way to look into ordering them: Bose F1 & L1 Speakers I'll give the Bose folks a call...
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

garysjones ·
I have received and used my F1 and F1 bass this past weekend for two weddings. Coming from a 4-802 and 4-MB4 system, all I can say is well done Bose! They sound amazing but without protective covers (like the 802's) they won't "look" great for long. Please tell me bags/covers are available for them now as I need protection for them yesterday. Thanks.
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

DJ Aziz Masudi ·
I am a house music DJ. I use the Traktor Kontrol S4 and the Bose L1 M2 with B2 set to its high position the bass is welcome for me. I just want to know should i add another B2 with a lite or try the F1 Sub? I usually play a room with about 100 people. And i would love to get more bass (DB) on the floor. I alway get a good position to place my L1 so the B2 can really perform. But if i can get more punch that would be great. I don't use any other gear than what is mentioned above, but i know...
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Re: F1 - Questions for Bose

ST ·
Hi DJ Aziz Masudi, Thank you for joining the Forum. Here's a recent discussion in which several of us explored the differences between adding an A1 Packlite and B2 to an L1 Model II with B2 compared to adding an F1 Subwoofer. L1 II System With Two F1 Subwoofers The title doesn't really reflect where the conversation ended up, and I think that you'll find that it is relevant to your question. ST
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