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Re: Loss of volume

Bose Pro Community Admin ·
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Loss of volume

Warren Simmons ·
Hi I use the L1 classic serial number 035311260840135AC power stand PS1 with 0ne B1 base cab. plus Tone match mixer. setting on classic base: channel 3 gain number 3 std jack lead to the tone match. tone match is used with backing tracks and microphone. Master gain set at 11 oclock. When performing sat night after about 30 mins the volume dropped by about 30% and had to try and compensate by turning the main volume gain on the tone match higher. Luckily it stayed on all night and I managed...
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Which L1 product to choose???

Ricky Tinks ·
We have a room that measures about 10m long by 5m wide. We'll have a keyboard, guitar and 1-2 mikes for singers, with at times about 40-50 people singing along as well ... Would the L1 Compact system at £849 be powerful enough for this application? If not, what would you suggest? Thanks.
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Re: Which L1 product to choose???

Reed2go ·
Hello Ricky, I perform as a solo sax/vocalist with backing tracks on an L1 Compact. I think the L1 Compact would be fine for your size room, number of people and purpose. It is surprisingly loud and with more bass than you might think would come from such a small system. You may need an additional mixer, such as the T1 for the additional musicians. You could also use any mixer and feed the output to the L1 Compact Channel 2 jacks. The L1 Model II B2 would probably be overkill unless you want...
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Re: Which L1 product to choose???

ST ·
Hi Ricky Tinks, I apologize for having lost track of this conversation. Thanks for all the great information. If it weren't for the 40-50 people "they will be singing enthusiastically !!!" an L1 Compact should be fine. But if you want your song leaders to be heard over the great roar of voices, then you'll want an L1 Model 1S. I don't think you'll need an L1 Model II. You'll want a ToneMatch mixer. A T1 (current model) would be fine or the soon to be released T4S would also work well. ST
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Re: Which L1 product to choose???

Ricky Tinks ·
I got the L1 Compact system in the end, and it works fine - seems like a good full, loud sound. The first big test will be in May when we have a room full ...
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Re: Which L1 product to choose???

ST ·
Hi Ricky Tinks, Thanks for the update. Please let us know how it goes in May. ST
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Re: Using two T1s into one L1 Compact

Andy 5 ·
So this may not be the advice that you want (and probably not what you deserve either!) but ST seems to have covered that pretty well. My advice would be: don’t. I used a compact with a tone match and my needs quickly out grew it. It was great, but when hitting low notes with any considerable volume (room bigger than a small one room coffee shop), I would experience some sort of limiting which would bring down the level of the Master Volume. If your needs are 7 different inputs, I believe...
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Using two T1s into one L1 Compact

dobrojoe ·
Yes, I need more channels, 3 x mics and two acoustic guitars. As I already have a T1 and L1 compact, I have just ordered a second T1. I'm wondering what the best way to hook these up would be. 1. I could daisy chain the two T1s giving me six inputs into the L1 Compact's line in. (safe option) 2. I could put one T1 into the L1's 1/4" jack and the other into the phonos? 3. I could put one into the L1's 1/4" jack and one onto the mic input with an XLR cable keeping the volume down? Any advice ...
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Re: Using two T1s into one L1 Compact

ST ·
Hi dobro joe, Thank you for joining the Bose Portable PA Community. You thought this through well. Yes, this is the safe option. You'll have seven inputs T1® Number 1 Channels 1, 2, 3 and 4/5 Master Output to T1® Number 2 T1® Number 2 Channels 1, 2, 3 You'll use Channel 4/5 for the output from T1® Number 1 If you connect the T1® Master output to ONE of the RCA jacks, that will work. Do NOT use a 1/4 inch (6mm) Tip-Ring-Sleeve splitter to two RCA jacks, or if you do - connect only one of the...
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Bose L1 Compact vs Bose Mk11

Geoff ·
Hi folks I am currently using a pair of Bose L1 Compacts with the Tonematch which is absolutely superb. I am a solo singer/guitarist working to pro backing tracks with the guitar and vocal live and I am very satisfied with my set up and the sound I am getting. I specialize in classic 60's and Traditional Country and although I don't often gig in very noisy venues it is important that my sound system can cope with the dynamics of my very diverse styles. My question is, as my gigs can either...
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Re: Bose L1 Compact vs Bose Mk11

Seagullman ·
Coming originally from England myself and visiting quite regularly I know that there are some really lovely but really old locations with low ceilings. It's been a point of discussion here on the forum on several occasions so I thought I'd mention it. That's why I said it. If the financial side isn't a massive problem, it is nice to have a Model II with a B1 for acoustic guitar and vocals. When using the Model II it's almost like "bathing" in your own sound. That's the best way for me to...
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Re: Bose L1 Compact vs Bose Mk11

Geoff ·
Thanks Tony That has given me a lot to think about. I really hadn't taken the height factor into consideration. Most of my gigs are general clubs so I don't think the height will pose any significant issues, but it's a valid point which I totally missed. It's probably fair to add that most of my gigs, a good 95% of them, are usually to an attentive audience, I specialize in less "noisy" music which probably means my pair of L1's are more than adequate, and as you say, if it isn't broke there...
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Re: Bose L1 Compact vs Bose Mk11

Seagullman ·
Hi Geoff, interesting question. I'll try to answer as best I can. I personally have 1 Compact + T1 and 1 Model II + 1 B1 + T1. I don't own a second Compact, nor have I used 2 Compacts together, but I have gigged with both Compact and Model II at the same time so I know about how far the sound carries. That's good to hear. The Compact does sound very good considering its size and weight. This is a sensible way of looking at things. You've also apparently covered part of things that you might...
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Re: Bose L1 Compact vs Bose Mk11

Geoff ·
Hi ST Thanks for your input, it pretty well sums up everything Tony had said and more or less reaffirms my gut instinct that upgrading to a Model 2 is the way forward. I've decided to keep one of my Compacts which I will use in the really small venues but will trade the other against a Model 2 which I am looking at next week and in a similar way to you I will keep the Compact in the trunk and assess things upon arrival at a venue. Fortunately I do a lot of return gigs so I am getting to know...
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Re: Bose L1 Compact vs Bose Mk11

Geoff ·
Cheers Tony I will post some gig news.
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Re: Bose L1 Compact vs Bose Mk11

ST ·
Hi Geoff, I've been following along and enjoying the conversation. I've got a couple of L1® Compacts and an L1® Model II, a couple of B1s, a B2, and a T1® - so basically, an embarrassment of riches. One of the L1® Compacts lives in the trunk of the car. It doesn't take much space, and it's great to know I've got it at a moment's notice. The following comments apply to solo gigs. L1® Compact Small gig in a quiet venue with an attentive audience up to 80 people. Small gig in a noisy venue with...
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Re: Bose L1 Compact vs Bose Mk11

Seagullman ·
Hi Geoff, It's good to hear that you're enjoying your participation here on the forum. I too was really impressed from my first visit onwards and the amount of help and advice that was being given here. It was due to the way things were discussed here and the way that the more experienced members were always prepared to take the time to help others, that I eventually decided to go for my first L1 system (a Compact with a T1) to accompany me on the road as a solo musician). After I took early...
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Re: Bose L1 Compact vs Bose Mk11

Geoff ·
Hi Tony Help me out buddy, I have found a Bose dealer up North who is selling a near new Model 2 and B1 Bass Module, he's asking £1700 which to my mind is one of those once in a lifetime chances as these things are well into the 2k mark. He doesn't want to trade against my current gear so I will basically still have both my compacts, although I could easily sell one on ebay and get a good £500 back. The missus doesn't mind me spending the £1700, she just wants me to be happy (I have a very...
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Re: Bose L1 Compact vs Bose Mk11

Seagullman ·
Hi Geoff, Is he offering you a guarantee on the system? If so how long when compared to a new system? Also, is he prepared to haggle? I always say asking doesn't cost anything. The Compacts could be used as a pretty good sound system (Telly, parties etc. in stereo) should you decide not to sell. You could also maybe consider hiring one out once in a while. Very lucky man. Not everyone has such a loving and supportive partner. The only answer I can give here is in my opinion "Yes you will".
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Re: Bose L1 Compact vs Bose Mk11

Seagullman ·
Hi Geoff, Nice to hear. I'm sure you're going to love it. If spending the extra the pennies didn't hurt too much you're now starting off with a full warranty and a brand new system. This is because the connection to the Compact is analog. When you use the T1 with the Tonematch cable connected to the Model II you're now in the digital world. The Power Stand provides the power for the T1 (meaning you don't need to use the T1 Power Supply, and the overall volume is then controlled by the Master...
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Re: Bose L1 Compact vs Bose Mk11

Seagullman ·
Hi Geoff, I've just re-read our last 2 posts and have compared your way of mixing to mine. Here's how I use the T1, and this way it doesn't matter which L1 I use. I set up the individual channel volumes on the T1 so that I've still got room to increase the volume on a single channel should the need arise, but so that the individual volumes "fit" together in the mix. This means that my mix is already set for the gig. For solo/band work I've got scenes saved, but generally I've got my standard...
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Re: Bose L1 Compact vs Bose Mk11

Seagullman ·
Hi Geoff, Always glad to able to help. I've enjoyed the exchanges in this thread. I'm also glad that the sound more or less blew you away. The Compact is really great for what it was designed to do (and actually a lot more more besides that), but it can't compete on the same level as a Model II. It wasn't designed to do that. And "Bathing in Sound" was really the only way I could describe the Model II experience. Regarding your Fiancée, you should consider yourself very lucky to have such a...
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Re: L1 compact als Verstärker für L1 einsetzbar?

RF-Musiker/ Musician ·
Das wäre ja dann "Doppelmono", würde ich nicht machen. Würde eher die kleinere Bose benutzen, um einen Nebenraum zu beschallen oder wenn der Raum L-förmig ist dazu, den kürzeren Schenkel zu beschallen oder eine 360 ° Beschallung machen oder wenn Du ein Twinset hast, ginge es, die Bose L1 compact als Center zu nutzen.
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L1 compact als Verstärker für L1 einsetzbar?

UB ·
Hallo zusammen, ich würde gerne meine L1 compact als Verstärker für eine "normale" L1 einsetzen - funktioniert das, hat jemand Erfahrungen? Danke !
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Re: L1 compact als Verstärker für L1 einsetzbar?

UB ·
Hi, danke. Die Situation ist: Gitarrist und Sprecher, vorhanden ist eine L1 mit B1 und ToneMatch, und eine L1 compact. Vortragende stehen in der Mitte, rechts und links Raum für ca. 100 Menschen sollen beschallt werden mit demselben Signal.
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Re: L1 compact als Verstärker für L1 einsetzbar?

RF-Musiker/ Musician ·
Es müsste gehen, dass das Tonematch das Signal gleichzeitig digital und analog ausgibt, Du speist beide Säulen und stellst sie Rücken an Rücken. Da die L1 compact für 100 Leute reicht, geht es auch. Im Vorfeld würde ich die Beschallung probieren und gucken, ob auf beiden Seiten die Lautstärke möglichst ähnlich ist und es danach einstellen. Allerdings dürfte es dabei sein, dass im Nahbereich dann die Bose L1 compact lauter ist, als die andere. Aber einfach probieren und danach gehen, dass auf...
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Re: L1 compact als Verstärker für L1 einsetzbar?

Seagullman ·
Hi UB, willkommen im Forum. Interessante Frage. Ich versuche dir ein Antwort zu geben, der eventuell hilft. Nehmen wir an, das der Raum rechteckig oder quadratisch ist und die beiden Personen in der Nähe eine der 4 Wände sind (also nicht mittig im Raum). Soll heißen, dass nur 180° beschallt werden muß. Hier würde ich nur eine der beiden Systeme benutzen und zwar der größerer da es den sound viel weiter transportiert als der Compact. Der Compact wurde hier als zusätzlicher System keine...
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Re: L1 Compacts - hum when connecting two

ST ·
Hi Craig, Thank you for joining the Bose Pro Portable PA Community. Congratulations to your daughter for getting out there to perform. The most common reason for hum is a ground-loop. Often you can solve that by doing one or both of these things: Make sure all devices are connected to the same power source. Both Compacts and the T1 Power Supply to the same power strip Use a balanced connection between the first L1 Compact LINE OUT to the second L1 Compact Channel 2. Balanced means ¼ inch...
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L1 Compacts - hum when connecting two

Craig ·
Hi, I am try to get the best sound and setup for my daugter. She has just started gigging and we have two l1 compacts and a tonematch mixer. She connects a shure sm58 mic to ch. 1 and her iPad to ch2 on the mixer, the master out goes to the first l1 compact ch2 and we use a 1/4" jack cable between the two l1 compacts again using ch2. We always get a humming noise on the second l1 compact, we swap l1s and the noise is always on the slave l1. Any suggestion To stop the hum edit: Subject -...
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Connecting L1 compact

Vintage Vibes ·
How do I connect my S1 pro to my L1 compact?
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Re: Connecting L1 compact

ST ·
Hi Vintage Vibes, Please tell us why you are connecting your S1 Pro to your L1 Compact. Are you adding the S1 Pro to the L1 Compact to augment the sound of the L1 Compact? Are you adding the S1 Pro to the L1 Compact to use the S1 Pro as a monitor? Basically, you can connect the L1 Compact Line Out to S1 Pro channel 1 or channel 2 OR S1 Pro Line Out to L1 Compact Channel 2 Either way, use a 1/4" (6 mm) Tip-Ring-Sleeve cable. This will give you a balanced connection. Does that help? ST
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Re: Connecting L1 compact

ST ·
Hi again Vintage Vibes, Here's a related discussion to check out. Daisy Chain S1 Pro to L1 Compact or vice versa? ST
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L1 stereo set up

ichabods8 ·
I have 2 L1 Compact systems that I use with [ usually] one Nord keyboard.... I'm wondering what the best way to achieve a stereo effect would be ? I've tried these 2 set-ups: Set-up #1. Left out of the kybd ...into first Bose. Right out of kybd to second Bose. Output from first Bose into second Bose. Out put from second Bose to main PA. Set up #2 : Left ouput from kybd into first Bose. Output from first Bose into second Bose.....output from there to mains. I've been using stereo cables for...
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Re: L1 stereo set up

ST ·
Hi ichabods8, Thank you for joining the Bose Portable PA Community. Welcome. This will give stereo. This will be mono. If you want to hear the stereo effect from the keyboard, use set up #1. If you want to send a signal to the main pa (which is probably running mono) connect from the LINE OUT from each L1 Compact to the PA. That will take two channels. The PA will handle it from there. OR If you Nord keyboard has four outputs, you can run outputs 1 and 2 to the L1 Compacts, and outputs 3 and...
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Age of my new to me L1 Compact

Lucy ·
My Dad just bought me a used L1 compact and I am trying to find out how old it is. Maybe, He should have paid a little more and got a new one. The serial number is xxxxxxxxxxxxxx. I am happy with it but my Dad says we have 14 days to take it back if it is an old model. edit: Personal information removed
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L1 Compact - 100% audio loss from removable speaker

guitars247 ·
I run two Bose L1 Compacts at my acoustic gigs (PA-1 and PA-2, for our purposes). I recently ran into an issue with PA-2. I was at a gig recently and started getting a crackling/frying pan sound in one of my Bose L1 Compacts in the removable speaker. Almost sounded like a blown speaker rattles. I turned off the unit and finished my gig on the other L1 Compact. Then, I went to a gig this weekend and the high-end was completely out in one of my Compacts, no audio whatsoever from PA-2's...
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Re: L1 Compact - 100% audio loss from removable speaker

ST ·
Hi guitars247, Thank you for joining the Bose Portable PA Community. I'm sorry you're getting no sound from the speaker array in your second L1® Compact. You've done some excellent trouble shooting. Did I miss it - did you try with and without the extensions (tower sections)? If you get the same results with and without the extensions, then the power stand will have to be serviced. Please call Bose Support, and they will help you. Bose® Product & Technical Support at (877) 335-2673 (U.S.
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buzzing in the L1 compact

houpts ·
I have a Bose L1 compact. A while ago, it started making a hum or buzz when I turn the volume up. It's very distracting and it seems to be getting worse. I don't know what to do about it. I am playing guitar through a Baggs Venue, but it also happens with a Radial Tonebone. The louder the volume, the louder the buzz. Help!!!!
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Re: Which L1 product to choose???

ST ·
Hi Ricky Tinker, Welcome to the Bose Pro Portable PA Community. Thank you for your interesting question. Before we get to answers, I've got some questions for you. Do you have a mixing desk? What kind (please provide a link) Are the performers on an elevated stage? If so, how big is the stage and how high is it? How high is the room? Are the people in the audience seated or standing? Are they all on the same level? Are the performers facing down the length of the room toward the 5-meter wall...
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Re: Which L1 product to choose???

Ricky Tinks ·
Thanks for the quick and comprehensive reply ST. Answers below: Do you have a mixing desk? No Are the performers on an elevated stage? No How high is the room? It is a vaulted room (see photo). Wall height about 2.1m, pitched roof height about 3.1m. Floor will be limestone flag stones, the walls and ceiling will be plastered. Are the people in the audience seated or standing? Standing when singing Are they all on the same level? Yes Are the performers facing down the length of the room...
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Re: Which L1 product to choose???

Lucrecia ·
Hi Ricky I am part of an acoustic duo . You were asking which Bose system would be best . I play a bohdran and we have acoustic guitars of various makes and and models .we do use some backing tracks we play in mainly pubs , some outdoor gigs weddings etc so various settings . I can only speak from experience we had the middle range L1 which did to be honest struggle sometimes in larger buildings , however just purchased the L1 model 2 the largest and it's awesome we have more volume to play...
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Re: Using two T1s into one L1 Compact

dobrojoe ·
Yes ST, thank you. Pretty much as I expected. The two guitars are acoustic (Dobro resonator with Fishman piezo, no preamp and Yamaha with preamp (which works well in Input 1) so the line inputs would not be right. The Dobro might need a bit of EQ as there is no Tonematch preset for something like this. I think I'll use (2) the single phono option. That leaves two 4/5s, one for iPad and one for the occasional keyboard.
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L1 System for DJs & crowd size. What do you use?

jdbassentertainment.com ·
Hey everyone, I wanted to share my results with my fellow DJs having to do with L1 Systems and crowd size. As time goes on I am gaining more and more respect for the L1 Systems. The little things never cease to amaze me! I have been using the L1 systems now for over 9 years now. Buying the L1 Systems was the best equipment purchase choice I ever made! The quality of sound and portability are truly worth every penny!! I have recently (about 6 months ago) purchased the F1 Systems and although...
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ATTENTION L1 Compact Owners

Craig-at-Bose ·
Hi All, We know there a lot of L1 Compact users on the forum and we wanted to get a better understanding of the effects and processing that you use with the system. Please have a look and select the answer that best describes your rig. Feel free to write in responses to provide more details. Looking forward to your participation. Thanks Craig After you complete the survey, please tell us more about how you are using your L1 Compact in the ongoing discussion .
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Re: No B2?

RF-Musiker/ Musician ·
L1 doesn't work without B2 or B1. When people complain about bass and/or volume level, there are many possible reasons. One of them could be, they simply dislike the music. If this would be, nothing helps, to fix it, than to change the music. But when I assume, that the kind of music is ok, I would use an equalizer. Sometimes the room has resonances, boosts about 100 Hz or absorbs mids or, or... The best would be, when you have opportunity, doing the sound check without customer. Play the...
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Re: What features would you like in a next generation L1®

JohnL ·
For all L1 family products: Agree with Bruno on the combo jacks. Wedge stand to allow for slight tilt up or down. Similar to the F1 but I just want the whole array tilted. I've done it with bricks under one L1 for balcony seats, worked perfectly. WEATHERPROOFING!!!!! Would love to be able to run a weatherproofed powerbox next to the L1 and XLR cable and not have to worry about rain! For just the Compact: At least a 2 mic combo mixer PLUS stereo line in (RCA/3.5mm). I hate that I always need...
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Re: What features would you like in a next generation L1®

Mike in Texas ·
This reply is my suggestion from several months ago, received no comments - maybe my ideas are of no value, except that I think they are very good suggestions! I'm an L1 Classic guy from Day One (PAS!), have and continue to use two of the original units. Bought a T1 its day one also, but didn't care for it and sold it. THEN, bought an early SoloAmp - GREAT design and implementation. L1 Compact? I resisted this for many years, because of so many shortcomings compared to SoloAmp electronics...
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