Tagged With "Model"

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What's better than a Model II?

ST ·
What's better than a Model II? Two of them. Here are a few shots of a fundraiser for Project AfterShock . Great sound, for a great cause, Project AfterShock. Two Model II + T1® + B1. ST
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Re: What's better than a Model II?

DrumrPete ·
Yes, two IS better than one. One per performer, is sublime. There is nothing better.
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Preset List for the Bose Model 1

Debbie Villaricos ·
Does anyone know where I can get hold of the Preset List for the Original Bose PA? I have had it quite a while and seem to have lost mine moving to Spain Debbie
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Re: Preset List for the Bose Model 1

Bose Pro Community Admin ·
Hello Debbie, You have a reply in the Presets forum. Preset List for the Original Bose PA Please follow the link above. Thank you. Forum-Admin
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Additional Speakers for bigger gigs

Debbie Villaricos ·
Can anyone advise me if i is possible to add speakers (attach) to my Bose Model 1 L1 (the original) and if so details of which to get please? Debbie
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Re: Additional Speakers for bigger gigs

ST ·
Hi Debbie, You can attach self-powered (active) loudspeakers to the L1 Model I Power stand. Here is an article that describes several ways to do it. PS1 Power Stand Connections - Line Outs In the article, there are some diagrams - each with a yellow line "To House System". This is where you could connect a self-powered (active) loudspeaker. Please tell us about why you want to add speakers to your L1. Maybe there's another way to meet the need. ST
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L1 Compact, L1 Model II, F1 system which is better?

jdbassentertainment.com ·
Hi everyone I have been spending most of my time on the F1 forum... This being said I still am the proud owner of four L1 systems - two Model II and two Compacts. A colleague of my wanted to know which was better the L1 or F1 systems... where I replied neither! I told him they are unique tools and all the models in the Bose portable PA speakers have there place... I then replied... I use the Compacts for outdoor ceremony's and small shows where I don't anticipate dancing. I use my L1 Mod. II...
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L1 System for DJs & crowd size. What do you use?

jdbassentertainment.com ·
Hey everyone, I wanted to share my results with my fellow DJs having to do with L1 Systems and crowd size. As time goes on I am gaining more and more respect for the L1 Systems. The little things never cease to amaze me! I have been using the L1 systems now for over 9 years now. Buying the L1 Systems was the best equipment purchase choice I ever made! The quality of sound and portability are truly worth every penny!! I have recently (about 6 months ago) purchased the F1 Systems and although...
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Re: L1 Compact, L1 Model II, F1 system which is better?

Seemon ·
Thanks for the review, quick question, how many people you think 2 F1 can handle without a sub?
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Re: L1 Compact, L1 Model II, F1 system which is better?

jdbassentertainment.com ·
That is a good question, I have never used them like this... I always use at least one sub... It depends on the type of venue and what type of music is playing through them/band or DJ and lastly what type of crowd will be there ?... quiet listening/party it up? DJ - Background Music/PA - I'd estimate 250-350 people DJ - Party - I'd estimate up to 250 people Small Band - Background Music/PA - 250-350 people Small Band - Party it Up - I'd estimate up to - 200 people Large Band - Background...
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T1 power supply hums with other amplifiers

Timbass ·
Irrespective of location (to eliminate mains hum from other sources) tests give the following: Bass with ordinary mag pickup - plugged directly into any mixer or amplifier = no hum. Bass plugged into T1 fed input/output from L1 Model II via its ethernet cable = no hum on any outputs. Bass plugged into T1 fed from T1 external power supply = hum, on all outputs including USB, irrespective of what amplifier it is feeding or none. Even with no outputs connected, the hum level can be seen on T1...
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Re: T1 power supply hums with other amplifiers

ST ·
Hi Timbass, It sounds like you've done everything possible to isolate the issue. I agree. It's probably a fault in the T1 Power Supply. If the T1 Power Supply is less than 2 years old, it may still be under warranty. You'll have to contact Bose in your location to see if you are covered. If that isn't applicable, then I'd go to an authorized Bose dealer and test the T1® with a new T1 Power Supply. If that works, buy it. I'm sorry that I don't have better news. ST Call Bose® Product &...
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Re: What determines when to upgrade to L1 Model 1S or larger system?

NoMoreBlackBoxes ·
Available money is a biggie, especially in the UK where apparently the price in £ uses the same numbers as the price in dollars. I think customer service and support compensates hugely. I took advantage of some available money to purchase a secondhand L1s/B2/T1 setup. If I had more money available (or had caught the deal I saw on Ebay a few months later) I would have bought an L1M2 for the wider, longer sound dispersion over more of the frequency range. For me, the occasions when the Compact...
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What determines when to upgrade to L1 Model 1S or larger system?

MtnSong ·
What determines when to upgrade to L1 Model 1S or larger system? I used my L1 Compact quite successfully for a solo gig in a ballroom with about 120 plus in attendance. I believe everyone heard the performance well, but, I was wondering if there were clear criterion or limits to consider when using the Compact?
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Re: What determines when to upgrade to L1 Model 1S or larger system?

ST ·
Hi MtnSong, Thank you for joining us. When you can't reach all the listeners in your audience, it's time to move up. I know that sounds really simplistic, but generalizations are no replacement for your direct experience. I've reached over 350 attentive people in a quiet hall that was specifically designed for an intimate listening experience. That was an exceptional situation. And I've also felt that the Compact was at its limit in a noisy club with 60 people. Please tell us more about your...
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Re: What determines when to upgrade to L1 Model 1S or larger system?

Seagullman ·
Hi MtnSong, ST wrote: "When you can't reach all the listeners in your audience, it's time to move up. I know that sounds really simplistic, but generalizations are no replacement for your direct experience. I've reached over 350 attentive people in a quiet hall that was specifically designed for an intimate listening experience. That was an exceptional situation. And I've also felt that the Compact was at its limit in a noisy club with 60 people." I agree completely with what he's saying...
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Help regarding noise management

Ashi ·
Hi, I have small inn with 5 rooms and 80 seating restaurant. I also have 450 square metres decking outside with 2 marquees 12 metres X 12 metres. There is a caravan site adjacent to the inn and the environmental health have threatened to put a notice on the property if I have further events. Its ridiculous as the levels recorded adjacent to this property were 49DB to 54 DB. I have had to get a lawyer and noise specialist involved. The councilor is understable about how ludicrous this is. The...
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Re: Help regarding noise management

ST ·
Hi Ashi, Thank you for joining the community. This is an interesting challenge. Thank you for all the information. Lots of food for thought. I thought I saw an L1® Model II in the video. What did you think of it? Did you experience either of these? To reach the same sound pressure levels at the perimeter, you could run at a lower stage volume. Running at the same stage volume, the sound pressure levels at the perimeter were higher. I read through the report. I had an opportunity to discuss...
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Re: Help regarding noise management

Seagullman ·
Hi Ashi, Welcome to the forum from me too. I also noticed a Model II in the video. What I also noticed was the presence of real acoustic drums which can sometimes be a problem with neighbours. Also the lower frequencies (bass) especially when discos are being held. I know from a friend who used to play drums in his cellar how far away they can still be heard clearly. I like this from ST: "The suggestions included a distributed system, creating a cardioid bass array using F1 subwoofers,...
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Re: What determines when to upgrade to L1 Model 1S or larger system?

MtnSong ·
Thank each of you for your responses, all excellent, experienced, and thoughtful. I have had my L1 Compact for 5 or 6 years, it has been a really remarkable unit - I am almost always amazed at its performance, "reach", penetration, and overall fine quality/true sound! But, I have played some events where, I was not sure of the "reach" for some of the audience, usually, "dinner performance" gigs, where people had to be distributed over a larger area that and audience/concert setting. These...
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No B2?

bmoney ·
Hello, I regularly perform DJ sets for a department store, and I'm always getting complaints about the bass with my L1 Model II. This despite having the module on the lowest bass setting. So I was wondering if it would be worth just running the L1 without the B2? I realize it's going to alter the overall sound quality significantly, but in the setting I play, that's really an afterthought. Any advice?
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Re: What determines when to upgrade to L1 Model 1S or larger system?

ST ·
Hi Rick, Although having a T1® is ideal, you can use another mixer with the Model 1S. Do you have a mixer now? I can help you get that wired up if you'll tell us the make and model. A link to the manual would be helpful. ST
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Re: What determines when to upgrade to L1 Model 1S or larger system?

ST ·
Hi, Rick! The Mackie mixer will work fine with the L1® Model 1S analog input on the power stand. Basically, you would set it up the same way as you did when connecting to the L1® Compact channel 2 1/4" input. For others following along, we have some more detailed notes about that here. Stereo Mixer to Mono L1® Yes, you could run the TC Helicon VoiceTone Harmony-G XT full mix output to the L1® Model 1S analog input. Use an XLR to 1/4" Tip-Ring-Sleeve converter. I've done the same thing with a...
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Re: No B2?

ST ·
Hi bmoney, I had another thought about your problem. Are you set up beside a wall or in a corner? You may have heard that you can augment the bass by putting a B2 against a wall or in a corner. The opposite is also true. If you can get the B2 in the range from 2-7 feet from a wall, the reflection from the wall tends to reduce some of the bass frequency range in the audience (an interference effect). Even if you are not right next to a wall or in a corner, try moving the B2 a few feet in any...
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Re: No B2?

ST ·
Hi bmoney, Thank you for joining the Community. Wow! You got some great suggestions and advice from RF-Musiker/ Musician! One tiny point. You can run your L1® Model II without a bass module, but you don't want to. Your L1® wasn't designed to run without a bass module: It sounds terrible, but you won't damage the L1®. You will likely do irreparable harm to your reputation. What is your sound source? Do you have any way of dialing down the bass in that device? ST
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Re: No B2?

bmoney ·
Hi ST, Thanks so much for the info! Logistically, lugging around the B2 for this particular venue is always kind of a nightmare. That was also playing into my original logic. I use a Pioneer DDJ SX2 controller for my source. I can definitely reduce the bass on that.
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Re: No B2?

RF-Musiker/ Musician ·
L1 doesn't work without B2 or B1. When people complain about bass and/or volume level, there are many possible reasons. One of them could be, they simply dislike the music. If this would be, nothing helps, to fix it, than to change the music. But when I assume, that the kind of music is ok, I would use an equalizer. Sometimes the room has resonances, boosts about 100 Hz or absorbs mids or, or... The best would be, when you have opportunity, doing the sound check without customer. Play the...
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Re: What determines when to upgrade to L1 Model 1S or larger system?

MtnSong ·
Good morning, ST, Thanks for your response. I have used a Mackie FX8 into the line input on my L1 Compact to bring in a couple of more instruments, and more mics, with two or three musicians, and that works fine. And most of my performances in the last few years, I usually use a TC Helicon VoiceTone Harmony-G XT between my vocal mic, acoustic guitar and the L1 Compact (mic out from the GXT into the Mic in on the Bose, and instrument out/thru from the GXT to the line in on the Bose) which...
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Power/fault LED on L1 Model II base

Diane g ·
The unit has been working fine for some months now. But now I notice the power/fault LED is not lighting up at all. At times it begins to come on blue and then goes out. Other times it does not come on at all. However the system has power and works fine. Is there a light that needs replaced? Is there a shop I can take it to so it can be looked at? I live near Tampa Florida. thanks Diane
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Re: Power/fault LED on L1 Model II base

MattS-at-Bose ·
Hi Diane g, Sorry for the trouble. Please contact Bose L1 support to discuss factory service at 877-335-2673. Thanks, MattS-at-Bose
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Bose sound fills the room for fundraising auction in Texas!

auctioneer ·
What a great event Saturday evening for the Bee Cave Police Benevolent Foundation at Sonesta Bee Cave Austin. We were happy to get to their next level in fundraising! Everyone could hear and understand clearly the auction and bid accordingly thanks to our # Bose Professional Sound System. (two L1 Model II w/B1 and a T1 plus two F1's) Had the room covered like a blanket! We are excited to have been asked back to be their auctioneers for next years gala! Take your event to the next level and...
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Re: Problem with Base/Amplifier

ST ·
Hi Anthony, Thank you for joining the Community. I'm sorry that you are having trouble with your L1® Model II. Known Issue? IF... You connect a mixer to the L1® Model II Power Stand using the Analog input AND you are you using a 1/4" Tip-Ring-Sleeve cable AND you are sending a stereo signal to the Analog input You can get very strange results, often like what you've described. because that input is a BALANCED MONO input. The Left and Right sides of the signal will tend to cancel each other...
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Problem with Base/Amplifier

Anthony Cooley ·
Does anyone know of any known issue with the L1 Model II base/amplifier that causes loud distorted sounds and little or no output from the source? Have tried different cables/sources and swapped in another base which worked fine. How much would repair cost and where would it need to be sent to? Anthony Cooley
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Dual Systems

steve j ·
Hi, I have a L1 IS with a B1. I am considering buying a second system to use in a dual system configuration, for very large venues and/or audiences over 300. And, to also have as a back up system. My questions - 1. If I purchase a Model II with a B2, how will that work in a dual configuration with my Model I? I am guessing I will need to even out the bottom end by adding another B1 to my Model I, but will I get a good even sound by having a Model I on the left and a Model II on the right? 2.
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Re: Dual Systems

NickA-at-Bose ·
Hi Steve, Question 1 and 2 -- You are correct that you won't truly get an even sound with two different L1's. But, it probably won't really matter except for the 3 people standing in the middle of the room and exactly equidistant from the two systems: Anyone closer to the left system will only really hear the left system, and anyone closer to the right system will really only hear the right system. So having a mismatch probably won't be noticed by the average audience member. Question 3 --...
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Re: Packing the L1 Model II in Carrying Bags

MattS-at-Bose ·
Hello jazzy16, We do not have an illustration. However, it should be fairly self-explanatory how the bags fit. A few tips are the array front grilles should face up toward the handles (to prevent grille denting when bags are rested on a floor) and the top of the power stand should face up toward the Bose logo on the power stand bag (this orients the inside pocket resting against the bottom). Thanks, MattS-at-Bose
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Packing the L1 Model II in Carrying Bags

jazzy16 ·
How should the L1 Model II stand and speakers be packed in the carrying bags? Do you have an illustration? Thank you.
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Re: Dual Systems

MattS-at-Bose ·
Hi Steve J, Connect either L1 the usual way using the ToneMatch cable. Connect the second L1 using a ¼” TRS balanced cable. You’ll know it’s balanced to reject hum, buzz and noise at long distances (such as 50’) by the 2 visible stripes on the ¼” plug vs. 1 visible stripe (which is unbalanced). This method is illustrated on the L1 wiki with two Model IIs which applies to your setup as well: http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/inde...odel_II_Power_Stands Thanks, MattS-at-Bose
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Re: Dual Systems

steve j ·
Thanks for the details. I am looking at buying the Model II later today. Since I am using tracks and vocals I need both systems (Model I 1S and Model II) connected to the same Tone Match. Can you tell me how I make that connection? Also, if I place the towers 50 ft apart, I will need extra cords. Are there cord connectors? Thanks!
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Re: Dual Systems

steve j ·
Thanks. I could not find a TRS cable longer than 10 ft. Will an XLR cable with 1/4 connectors work just as well?
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Re: Dual Systems

MattS-at-Bose ·
Hi Steve J, Yes. Just make sure the XLR to 1/4" adapters are 1/4" TRS (vs. 1/4" TS unbalanced) to maintain a balanced connection. Thanks, MattS-at-Bose
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L1 Model 1s and tone match hookup with Voice Live 3

Royela ·
Anyone having experience using Voice live 3 with Tone match. Having difficult time with settings matching the 2 together!! When I use my headphones into the voice live 3 it sounds awesome.. but get a completely different sound threw the Bose system!!! not flattering!! Any pointers would be much appreciated!!!
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Re: L1 Model 1s and tone match hookup with Voice Live 3

Seagullman ·
Hi Royela, let me say this regarding your problem. As a Line 6 POD user when it first came out I made the mistake of dialing in my sounds using headphones as monitors. I was really happy with the presets I made for my dance band (similar to a top 40 band) at the time. I then took the POD with my carefully made presets into our practice room and connected everything up. The sound was pretty awful. Nothing like I'd heard through my headphones. After that I always went into the practice room...
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Re: L1 Model 1s and tone match hookup with Voice Live 3

Royela ·
Thanks Tony....I appreciate your quick response!! Yes I have done most of what you suggested and I understand the Mono issue. I use the voice live 3 for harmonies. The sound is good except when I turn on harmonies it increases the volume so the sound terrible!! I have a feeling it is more of a TC Helicon issue than the Bose. Any setting you may suggest using the voive live 3 would be appreciated. Having many frustrating hours trying to get the 2 together. Thanks again Roy
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Re: L1 Model 1s and tone match hookup with Voice Live 3

Royela ·
by the way when you said use utility flat...where exactly are you taking about? Thanks again Roy
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Re: L1 Model 1s and tone match hookup with Voice Live 3

Seagullman ·
Hi Roy, let me first answer this: Utility flat is a T1 preset which basically bypasses the T1 EQ presets. It's basically a bypass. You still have use of the tone controls etc. for fine tuning but no EQ'ing that you don't need. Some of us use it when connecting signal processors such as yours to the T1 as it quite often gives the best sound. To select "Utility Flat" rotate the "Category" knob until you see "Utility" and select it. Then rotate the preset knob to flat and select that. You now...
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Re: L1 Model 1s and tone match hookup with Voice Live 3

Seagullman ·
Hi Roy, You're more than welcome to any help I can give. I look forward to hearing about your progress here. What's unfortunate about gear nowadays is that the things are so versatile that the learning curve is pretty hefty. Mind you, in the olden days you'd have to buy a unit for each thing. If you add up all the learning curves, maybe it's not really all that bad nowadays. It's just that you've got it all in one unit that makes it seem a lot. Tony
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Re: L1 Model 1s and tone match hookup with Voice Live 3

Royela ·
Hey there Tony Thank you for all the help you have given...I will certainly take all your advice and spend the next few days doing my home work on this!!! You have been very helpful and I surely do appreciate this!! Will let you know how I have come along!!! Again Thank you again!!! Roy
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Re: Connecting 2 Model II's together

ST ·
Hi Bassplayerrod, I found a Mackie PPM Series Owners Guide. From what I can see, your mixer is a powered mixer. Warning Do NOT connect the speaker outputs to your L1®s. You will almost certainly damage the L1®s and the Mackie mixer. Here is the simplest thing that could work. Connect the T1® and L1®s as I showed you here. T1® to two Model IIs Connect your vocal microphones to T1® channels 1, 2, 3. Connect your instruments to the Mackie 808. Keep the Mackie Main Master all the way off, fully...
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