Tagged With "volume"

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F1 Subwoofer Torture Test

jdbassentertainment.com ·
The other day I was testing my F1 subs, making sure they were fully out gassed (they seem to be) and I had the volume cranked! I had the volume on max on the F1 subwoofer and max on my mixer (Denon X900), the lights on the back of the subs were solid red and the limit lights were on and the subs still sounded good. I decided to see how much more I could push the volume... I wanted to see if at any point I could hear distortion... In which case I would back off the volume. Please remember I...
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Tonematch AUX volume boost?!

Jocelyn Oldham ·
I've been having issues getting enough volume from the AUX out on my BOSE ToneMatch (with L1 model 2). Also, I read that you can't hear reverb in the AUX send? Confused then why there is this AUX option: "Pre: With EQ & FX: The signal is routed from the preamp stage with applied processing." ...if the FX can't be sent. Note: No reverb comes from the Aux output even if the tap point is Pre or Post. What other effect IS there on the tonematch? What am I missing? But my main issue is that...
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Re: Tonematch AUX volume boost?!

Nick-at-Bose ·
Hi Jocelyn, Based on your description, I think the best course would be to turn the trim up on the channel, and then turn the channel volume down to balance out the volume increase. It's best to have the trim knob up as high as possible before distortion (as indicated by the red LED above the trim knob). So the trim knob for each channel should be set to this point - this may mean 12 o'clock for channel 1, 9 o'clock for channel 2, and fully clockwise for channel 3. All outcomes are fine as...
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T1 - Master Volume wirkungslos

Gerhard_H ·
Hallo ! Als ich gestern das T1 (vor L1Compact) einschaltete hörte ich nix mehr. Keine Reaktion auf allen Reglern (Mikro, Gitarre, iPad). Schließlich bin ich draufgekommen, dass alles nur mehr über Aux ging, ich konnte zwar jeden Kanal regeln, aber der Master Volume blieb wirkungslos. Ich bin mir aber nicht bewusst dass ich was umgestellt hätte. Das Laden der "Factory Settings" brachte auch keine Hilfe. Was tun ? MfG Gerhard
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ST ·
Great. Thanks for letting us know. I'm glad that all is well. ST
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Gerhard_H ·
Ooops . . . Of course I had . . . Thx a lot !!!
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Gerhard_H ·
Hi, me again . . . Found some posting headers (replies I suppose) in my Pegasus Mail in the morning but accidentally I deleted them all . . . Therefore I am very sorry I can't reply to the people, shame on me ! Kind regards Gerhard
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Re: T1 - Master Volume wirkungslos

ST ·
Hi Gerhard, Thank you for joining the Community. I am happy that you are here. I am sorry that I cannot reply to you in German. It sounds like you have accidentally used the Aux output instead of the Master output. I have done this too. A simple thing to fix once you figure it out. Does that help? ST
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ST ·
Hi Gerhard, The emails you received were to notify you that people had replied to your posts. You have probably had a chance to read the replies by now. Follow this link to see all the recent activity here (including replies to you) . ST
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Re: T1 - Master Volume wirkungslos

Gerhard_H ·
THX a lot, ST, for kind help !
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Re: T1 - Master Volume wirkungslos

Seagullman ·
Hi Gerhard, ST, für die, die kein Englisch verstehen, übersetze ich was hier erzählt wurde. Es gibt viele die lesen aber nicht aktiv daran teilnehmen. ST hat darauf hingewiesen, dass Gerhard eventuell den Aux Ausgang (Statt Master Ausgang) am T1 benutzt hatte. Das würde tatsächlich zu Gerhard's Problem führen. Das kann jeder passieren im Eifer des Gefechts. Mir ist es auch passiert. Das Problem ist schnell gelöst, wenn Dir klar wird was passiert ist. Einfach umstecken, fertig. Genau das war...
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Re: T1 - Master Volume wirkungslos

Gerhard_H ·
Herzlichen Dank, Tony, für deine Mühe ! LG Gerhard
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Re: T1 - Master Volume wirkungslos

RF-Musiker/ Musician ·
Es ist leicht zu vewechseln, wenn ein Gerät klein ist. Hatte bei einer DI-Box ähnliches, Through und In verwechselt und kein Signal kam. Mir kommt eine Frage, für die ich kein neues Thema eröffnen will: Kann man 2 Tonematch-Module auch für Stereo nutzen?
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correct inputs or no?

Joyof60 ·
Small venue combo, 4 piece, running three vocal mics, two instrument mics and a digital piano mixed down through a Behringer QX1202, main outs summed to the RCA inputs of the L1 Compact. Trying to isolate problems with volume cuts and swells. Happened now at two different clubs, first time lasted off and on through the first half of the show, then the second time only during the second half of the show. Power connections all were secured and all cords and cables test ok. No phantom power...
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Re: L1 Compact - Volume Lowers during playback of Song

ST ·
Hi Thom, Thank you for joining the Community. I'm sorry to hear that you're having a problem with your L1® Compact. What kind of mixer do you have? Are you using backing tracks? We need to figure out if the problem is in the mixer or the L1® Compact. For testing, please run music from a portable device (phone, iPad, tablet) through the 1/8" stereo input. Try that for several hours to see if the volume goes up and down. If it does, then definitely call Bose Support. They will help you. Call...
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L1 Compact - Volume Lowers during playback of Song

Thom ·
I have been using the system for about a month and have experienced intermittent volume dropping off during a song. It may happen one or two times a night while performing and sometimes I go through a night with no problems. Last night the problem happened again and volume dropped and later on during the evening the volume increased for the first time. All the times prior to that I only experienced volume dropping. Has anyone seen this problem? I Have R & L outputs of my mixer going into...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Joyof60 ·
Couple of years I think, Just recently began to use it though, we've only used it for maybe a month or so.
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Joyof60 ·
I've had it for a couple of years I think, only recently began to use it though. Only have used it for a couple of months.
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Joyof60 ·
Tony, thanks for the response, We are using SM 58 and 57 mics, I am running the 5th mic (a SM57) through the mono jack of the 5/6 channel. I have been running the piano, a Roland RD300NX, through the 11/12 channel as a stereo signal, out of habit I guess. I don't think running it mono will compromise any tones. I had been considering running the main outs through the Channel 1 (MIC) on the L1 and the piano and guitar (mic'd with a SM 57) directly bypassing the mixer through the L1's channel...
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Re: L1 Compact - Volume Lowers during playback of Song

Thom ·
Thanks for the quick response! 1. I have a Yamaha StagePas 300 Powered Mixer. I am using the Monitor Out to provide signal to L1 Compact System. The Monitor Out is designed to use with powered speakers. 2. I am using backing tracks. I have one channel on the mixer which receives output from my laptop. When the problem first occurred I moved to another channel on the mixer and I didn't have a problem for two performances than it happened again the last time I performed on the new channel I...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Seagullman ·
Hi Joyof60, welcome to the forum. Thanks for joining our community. 3 x Vocal mics + 2 x instrument mics makes 5 mics. As far as I can see the mixer has only 4 mic channels. How are you connecting the mics to the mixer? At the moment I'll treat that as probably being secondary. I can't say any more unless you can describe in more detail how you've got the mics/piano connected. The Compact (as with all L1 systems) is a mono system. This means that it cannot reproduce stereo. There are one or...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

ST ·
Hi Joyof60, Thank you for joining the Community. How old is your L1® Compact? ST
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Re: L1 Compact - Volume Lowers during playback of Song

ST ·
Hi Thom, Sounds okay. OK - the problem isn't associated with a specific channel. It might still be in some other part of the mixer (or the L1® Compact). Use a different sound source than the one you were using for your backing tracks. Otherwise, if volume fluctuations persist we won't know if the issue is the source or the L1® Compact. Let's see if that makes a difference. Did you get your L1® Compact at a bricks 'n mortar store? ST
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Seagullman ·
Hi Joyof60, A microphone has less output than an Instrument (Guitar/Keyboards for example) but if it's working for you it's OK to use the 5/6 channel. Running the way I suggested is what the inputs and outputs L/MONO are designed for. It also saves on cable connections. Regarding the use of Channel 1 for microphones panned hard to one side, and channel 2 for instruments panned hard to the other side: This is one of the possibilities I meant when I wrote this: I would have suggested this in...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Seagullman ·
Hi Keith, actually the RCA's/3.5mm should sum to mono well because this is what Bose suggests using for iPhones etc. I wasn't thinking straight there. If you can, set up the Compact somewhere and feed it with mp3's (Channel 2 RCA or 3.5mm Input. If possible also run it a bit louder than normal living room volume. If it's OK there it should be OK at a gig. As I suggested in my last post: " Everything panned hard left and then to channel 2 set to line, with the SM 57 going directly into...
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Re: L1 Compact - Volume Lowers during playback of Song

Thom ·
Thanks for updates. Ran L1 with 1/8 plug off of Ipod with no problems yesterday. Again, its been intermittent will do again today. FYI I purchased L1 Compact directly from Bose.
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Re: L1 Compact - Volume Lowers during playback of Song

Thom ·
Also, I am testing without added arrays, just using base unit without extensions. Do you think that makes a difference?
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Joyof60 ·
Thanks again for the reply and help, greatly appreciated. I do understand the cancelling effect of signals/sound waves out of phase which is why my initial use of the channel 2 on the L1 was to use the RCA jacks somehow thinking they would stay separate, not sure how I thought that could happen in a mono unit but Bose has been doin wonderful things in unconventional ways for many years now. I am an advocate of all their products and own many, wave, acoustic wave, headphones, ear buds etc.,...
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ST ·
Hi Joyof60, Yes, that's completely normal. The input sensitivity of Channel 1 is higher than Channel 2 (1/4" inch input). Yes. ST
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Joyof60 ·
Sorry to cont. with the drama here, but should Channel 1 be considerably hotter than channel 2? I was able to recreate the power/volume drop while playing the piano through channel 2 and changed to the channel 1, just panned over with the trims both set a twelve o'clock and got a tremendous volume boost, like 10db or better. Is that normal, we've never really tried that much with channel 1, but you had mentioned in an earlier post that running the mic that I had running through one of the...
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Re: L1 Compact - Volume Lowers during playback of Song

ST ·
Hi Thom, It's tough to diagnose an intermittent problem like this. Call Bose Support. They may have some more ideas on how to diagnose this. They are great people. Call Bose® Product & Technical Support at (877) 335-2673 (U.S. and Canada only) Monday-Friday: 9:00 AM - 9:00 PM ET ST
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Seagullman ·
Hi Keith, Regarding the sensitivity of channel 1 compared to channel 2, ST has already answered this question. This is also why I suggested putting your 5th microphone through this channel should channel 5/6 on your mixer not manage to get the SM 57 loud enough. If you use this for panning all microphones to one side and putting them through channel 1 you can compensate for the extra sensitivity by keeping the signal going into it a little "cooler". One thing to remember with channel 1 is...
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Re: L1 Compact - Volume Lowers during playback of Song

Oldghm ·
Hi Thom, Just want to think out loud for a minute. These thoughts might, or might not be relevant. Are the volume fluctuations random, or particular songs / tracks? Are the volume fluctuations on tracks and vocal? Is the vocal in the same signal path as the backing tracks? Did the backing tracks come from different sources, creators? Make a mental note the next time it happens, and play the same track or tracks again at home, including the one before and one after. My thought is, there might...
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Re: L1 Compact - Volume Lowers during playback of Song

Thom ·
Thanks for your feed back It appears when it happens that the volume fluctuations are from the backing tracks which are all generated in Band in a Box with no other sources. Not Sure if other items connected in mixer are dropping too. Next time, I will write down song to see if the issue is with certain songs. Do not have any vocals all instrumental. Have microphones for Sax & Flute and line for guitar all coming out of mixer along with backing tracks. All have the same signal path out...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Joyof60 ·
Thanks again Tony, Again, please understand that my statements are generally meant as questions stated to be sure if my thinking is correct. I'm one of those people who know enough to know how much they don't know. That should make me teachable, which I am more than eager for. The rationale for the 57 going into the stereo channel was thrown in to see if we are thinking correctly here. As is true with a lot, just because I can make it make sense in my head, doesn't make it correct I have...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Joyof60 ·
Thanks again Tony, and yes, all of your input has helped. I have never had the compact in the red except for when we first broke it out just to see how hot it would actually go. Currently I am trying to reproduce the volume cut with the elimination of other possibilities, i.e. Bypassing the mixer, using a different keyboard. I had read in a post somewhere here that the 1/4" input of channel 2 was a 'balanced Mono' input. Is this still accepting of a TRS "Stereo" input as that is the only...
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Re: L1 Compact - Volume Lowers during playback of Song

Oldghm ·
Hi Thom, A couple more questions for greater understanding. Are you playing all instruments, switching from one to another, or are there other players? The addition of one, two, or three more instruments, especially louder acoustic instruments as the sax can be, can create the perception that other musical parts are lower, as well as the possibility of a very real drop in volume based on the addition of more signal into a system that is set to a particular power / volume level. I'm not sure...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Seagullman ·
Hi Keith, OK I can understand you wanting to do this. Are you having any success along these lines. From what you're writing it appears that the "loss of volume" is not always there. Correct. A balanced mono cable here is a TRS cable. The 1/4" input channel of Channel 2 will accept either a 1/4" mono cable (guitar cable) or a 1/4" TRS cable (stereo cable). The advantage of the TRS (balanced) is that it's not as susceptible to interference as a cable which isn't balanced. There is one other...
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Re: correct inputs or no?

Seagullman ·
Hi Keith, With your apparent interest to learn as much as you can, I can warmly recommend you have a look around in the Wiki. At the moment it's still apparently undergoing maintenance so it can't be accessed. At the beginning I was an extremely regular visitor there and learned a lot of stuff. I'm still there pretty regularly but I don't need to look for advice as much as I used to. The Wiki however never really ceases to surprise me with the amount of knowledge available there. The link to...
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Unable to generate enough volume w/o feedback

B&B ·
I've owned an L1 mod II/B1 system for several years for small gigs, and added two F1's recently for larger venues. Used it first indoors in a very large cafeteria, with zero issues - in fact, the sound was incredible, and much-commented on (we use the L1 system as monitor). Yesterday we played an outdoor venue with furthest seating approximately 150 feet from stage. Lots of ambient crowd noise necessitated pumping up the volume, but despite a lot of adjusting, I couldn't get past 12 o'clock...
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Re: Unable to generate enough volume w/o feedback

Nick-at-Bose ·
Hi B&B, With a single T1, L1, and two F1 812s, I would use the T1's Master Out to feed the first F1 812. Then, use the F1 812's output to feed the second F1. Make sure the F1 812s' inputs are set to Line Level Were you using the two F1 812s in front of you, like a traditional PA system? If not, I would place them in front of you and let them do the heavy lifting of producing the volume necessary for the crowd. And then since you're using the L1 as a monitor, you're free to position it in...
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BOSE L1 Compact Volume Problem

MarsWu ·
Been extremely happy with my L1 Compact for 10 years. However, I am now experiencing the following problem: The output volume (when the RCA or 1/8" input is used) suddenly and dramatically INCREASES IN VOLUME to become unbearable. The volume remains too loud even when turned down to the lowest setting. I notice this occurs usually after 15+ minutes of use. Also, when this happens - touching the volume dial will result in a noticeable and brief static sound as the dial is touched or moved.
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How to tell if a second B1 is wired and working properly

BobBeanBags ·
I have a Bose L1 1S with B1 and just purchased a second B1. When I plug it in and I'm running both B1's it doesn't sound much different at low volumes (maybe even less bass). Is this normal? I am in an apartment and have not been able to run it at a high volume yet. Is there a way to tell if it is all wired correctly? Also, is there a rule of thumb when I should add the 2nd B1? (maybe only outside or when playing larger venues When do most L1 users add the second B1?
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Re: How to tell if a second B1 is wired and working properly

BobBeanBags ·
Yes, this helps a lot! I play out on Cape Cod in bars and restaurants as well as for weddings and party. Im a one man band (acoustic guitar, vocals, looping, harmonica). I also have a traditional system Yamaha Stagepas 600i but I wanted to upgrade to the Bose L1 to try the "articulated array" ... I have noticed at the events I play for the sound is too loud near up front and too weak near the back - hence the Bose L1 1S. See https://www.gigsalad.com/bob_bean_guitar_sandwich I appreciate this...
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Re: How to tell if a second B1 is wired and working properly

ST ·
Hi again BobBeanBags, Here's an excerpt from the L1® Model 1S Owners Guide (page 14) Please click the picture to see a larger version. ST
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Re: How to tell if a second B1 is wired and working properly

ST ·
Hi BobBeanBags, Welcome to the Bose Pro Portable PA Community. Yes, that is normal. You will not hear much difference at low volumes. That's the way we engineered the system. Source: B1 Bass Module (2 B1s) From the quote above. You've got it. Use it any time you will be playing loud and you need turn up while still maintaining the same overal tonal balance. Does that help? Please tell us about your music and how you are using your L1® Model 1S. Thanks, ST
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Re: BOSE L1 Compact Volume Problem

Bose Pro Community Admin ·
HI Mars Wu, Thank you for joining the Community. I am sorry no one has gotten back to you sooner. From your description of the sudden increases in volume, this may be a hardware problem. We may need to get your L1® Compact in to be serviced. Please call us Bose® Product & Technical Support at (877) 335-2673 (U.S. and Canada only) Monday-Friday: 9:00 AM - 9:00 PM ET Thank you! Bose Pro Community Admin
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Volume decreased 3 times in one tune.

Garry ·
Hi all. Has any one experienced this before? Bose L1 model II with tone match. We practice virtually every day in our conservatory, mainly 60s pop, we use 2 mics, 1 guitar (Electric) and a MP3 media player for backing tracks all through the tone match. Today for the first time playing Shake Rattle & Roll, (Bill Hayley) may not be a 60s number but that does not matter! the volume decreased 3 times in about 10 seconds. To explain! It was as if some one was on the master volume control on...
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ST ·
Hi Garry, I'm sorry to hear you're having a problem with your L1®. The most likely causes for this behavior are: Power issue - Voltage outside normal operating range If the problem doesn't recur, I wouldn't be concerned Damaged bass module cable (the blue one connecting the Model II Power Stand to your B1 or B2) Please check the cable at both ends Connecting too many bass modules to the Model II Power Stand Up to 2 B1s One B2 You must not connect a B1 and B2 to the same Model II Power Stand...
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Re: Volume decreased 3 times in one tune.

Garry ·
Thank you for the prompt reply, not too worried yet I know quirky things can happen for no reason. Having a rehearsal in about 1 hour, full song list so will see if it happens today. Only one B2 (The big one) connected so not that. Cable not disconnected or moved very often so i will have a look at that latter. I was thinking first that it may have been a mains power interruption but none of the digital clocks around the house went into alarm mode. I do supply power via a surge protection...
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