Tagged With "effects"

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best settings for electric guitar through a floor effects unit....

glen ·
Hi - new here and new to the L1 - i played an acoustic duo on 1st use and we were blown away with the quality and how easy it was to get it sounding great - however, doing a seperate duo using backing tracks and a strat i'm struggling to get the guitar sounding decent - using a Zoom G3 effects pedal and i spent quite a while making - at room volume -what i though were decent tones but using last night the sounds at restaurant gig level - were pretty rough - clean tones especially - wouldn't...
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Re: best settings for electric guitar through a floor effects unit....

Seagullman ·
Hi glen, welcome to the forum. Thank you for joining our community. First let's make sure you're not making a fundamental mistake which can happen to all of us. I'm referring to this "turning it up made it all sound sharp and harsh". Did you have the output of the G3 set to "DIRECT"as stated in the Manual? DIRECT: Use when connected to headphones or monitor speakers Failing to do this when using the Zoom G3 through a PA/Monitor speakers (in this case the L1) will definitely lead to an...
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Re: best settings for electric guitar through a floor effects unit....

Seagullman ·
Hi glen, I've just re-read your post. You said: "using a Zoom G3 effects pedal and i spent quite a while making - at room volume -what i though were decent tones but using last night the sounds at restaurant gig level - were pretty rough - clean tones especially" It sounds like you were doing this through the L1, so if you were also using the Output set to "DIRECT" I would then suggest that you (if you have the chance to do such a thing) try making the presets (sounds) at gig volume. You...
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Re: best settings for electric guitar through a floor effects unit....

ST ·
Hi Glen, Thank you for joining the Forum. That's great. Congratulations on getting your new L1®. It sounds like you have a T1®. What model L1® do you have (Compact, Model 1S, Model II)? I just came across an article that might explain this. Why Does My Amp Sound Different At High Volume? Here is an excerpt from the end of the article. There's a lot of changes when you go from room volume (alone) to playing with others in a gig situation. When I'm playing in a duo or a group, we all try to...
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Re: best settings for electric guitar through a floor effects unit....

Seagullman ·
That's some pretty interesting input ST. The Article " Why Does My Amp Sound Different At High Volume? " appears to be something like the "quantum theory of guitar amp tone". I find the " Then I might use the T1® zEQ to " try rolling the bass off. Maybe reduce the treble or presence a touch if things sound too shrill. "" to be good and solid in combination with the "Category: Electric Guitar, Preset: Flat E. Guitar zEQ" which puts the EQ range within the realms of an electric guitar. I...
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ATTENTION L1 Compact Owners

Craig-at-Bose ·
Hi All, We know there a lot of L1 Compact users on the forum and we wanted to get a better understanding of the effects and processing that you use with the system. Please have a look and select the answer that best describes your rig. Feel free to write in responses to provide more details. Looking forward to your participation. Thanks Craig After you complete the survey, please tell us more about how you are using your L1 Compact in the ongoing discussion .
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Re: multi effects

weeo ·
Thanks Tony for your help with this. I do use a blank mini jack as you suggested. It's early days and I'm trying different things. I was kinda hoping someone on here had done all this before. I'll have to set up in house and try these settings , as you said, I've been setting this up using headphones and it sounds different through the T1. I think the secret could be with the volume levels at each stage , the pedal has various volumes as does the T1 so experimenting at home with the T1 set...
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Re: multi effects

Seagullman ·
Hi weeo, Regarding the connection to the T1: and to which ST replied: This would be costing 2 T1 Input channels. I've just had a look at the Manual (ST's link to it made it easy and quick) and I noticed this: Normally this would mean that it's the presence of the stereo mini plug which causes the guitar amp simulator to be switched on (something similar to floor effect pedals or active guitar pick-up systems being switched on when a jack is inserted into the jack socket). What I would try...
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Re: multi effects

ST ·
Hi weeo, I'm looking at page three of the Boss ME 80 Users Guide. It looks like you want to connect the Record Out / Phones jack to the T1® Channel 4/5 to get the guitar amp simulator. If you are running from the Guitar Amp Outputs, you won't be getting the amp sims. With a cable like this. I would probably use this T1® Preset. How does that sound? ST
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multi effects

weeo ·
Hi, just got a Boss ME 80 multi effects and although I'm quite happy with the clean sounds through the T1, the distortion sounds are not so good. Has anyone else got this problem? I'm thinking on using a small amp and micing it but that means more gear to lug around. Any ideas ?
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Re: multi effects

weeo ·
Thanks for reply. Problem is I use these ( 4/5 ) for my ipad. Would it be ok to use 2/3 . ? Thank you
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Re: multi effects

weeo ·
Thanks for your help ST, I'll give it a try .
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ST ·
Sure, that should work. (2/3) ST
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Re: multi effects

Seagullman ·
Good, that's one problem you won't be having (and I take it that it works out of the Guitar Outs?). That's the only way that I can see to not be surprised/disappointed at a gig. The difference in sound as I see it will be mainly due to the L1 sounding different than the T1. But you're right about it sounding different. With my Dance band (top 40 kind of thing) after my first big surprise at how different my presets sounded through the PA I really did start to go to the practice room alone...
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Re: multi effects

Seagullman ·
Hi Eddie, thanks for the reply. Please let us know how you get on. Every bit of info you can give us here may be of help to someone with a similar problem at a later date. Also feel free to ask further questions as and when they may arise. Nothing is for nothing. You should, however reap the benefits of the time you put in here. I've had to do it every time I changed my my system. (POD, POD XT Live, TC-Helicon VoiceLive3, Kemper Profiler). It's always paid dividends. You're more than...
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Re: multi effects

weeo ·
Hi Tony, It certainly helps and thanks very much for your input. I guess i'll have to set it all up and spend some time with it , I've taken on board all the advice given, so the plan is to try them out and see how it goes. Thanks again for your help Eddie
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T1 mic effects settings

ALAN 3 ·
I have "gigged" most of my life and many years ago I loved the Watkins Copicat reverb/echo sounds we achieved on our mics. Is it at all possible to achieve as near to a similar effect from the T1. If so, what are the settings, as I have tried numerous attempts fiddling with delay, reverb, time, feedback etc , but don't seem to succeed in getting the sound I want. I use shure beta58 with my L1, model 2 and two B1,s
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Tonematch settings for vocal and guitar

Bill G ·
Greetings, just purchased an L1/1S with Tonematch. Male vocalist/guitarist, covering singer/songwriter and classic rock, small to medium sized venues. I play a Taylor 714ce (with ES1) and AKG D5 mic. I'm using the Taylor preset (Grand Audit. strum) and the Audix VX5 (there's no D5 preset). I'm hoping someone can offer some advice regarding Tonematch settings, specifically EQ and effects. I like to use a little delay and/or reverb but don't want the "tinny" sound. Thanks much!
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Re: Tonematch settings for vocal and guitar

Bill G ·
Thanks MusicianThomas, your advice is greatly appreciated!!
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Re: Tonematch settings for vocal and guitar

Musicianthomas ·
Bill, I know this sounds like a sarcastic reply, but it is not, believe me. "Just play with the settings." Spending time doing a LOT of playing with the settings is the best way to fine tune in your own perfect sound....and if you play around and tweak enough, the "aha, that's it" moment will come. The good news of this is how you can play with settings and when you get something more pleasant to you......save it as a scene and name it something like "Test 1" and then play some more, save...
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Global reverb type...

ScubaBadger ·
will a future firmware release get rid of the limiting “global reverb type for all channels”. I sing with sev real mics set up for easy acces to effects and the biggest P in the A is GLOBAL effects. Independent effects per channel as stated in the sales spec is what I want without plugging in external warts. Edit: Added tags — Bose Pro Community Admin
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Re: Global reverb type...

ST ·
Hi ScubaBadger, I'm sorry, we can't commit to what may or may not be in future firmware releases. The sales description distinguishes between effects and reverb referring to them separately Have you tried using delay instead of reverb on one or more of your channesls? I found an interesting article below. Why use delay instead of reverb? ST
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Re: Global reverb type...

ScubaBadger ·
Hi ST Reverb - to me is an "effect" in the same way that you can buy a vocal "effects" pedal for reverb. The statement "Independent ToneMatch, EQ, dynamics and effects per channel" is to me a statement that would indicate to me that "reverb" would be independent in channel status / selection. The "find a delay tweak" is a hack to fix the issue. I just don't buy it that every member of a band would want the same reverb "type" as everyone else on the stage - perhaps why "real" mixers don't...
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Re: Global reverb type...

Seagullman ·
A good article ST. Thanks for the link. Personally I would probably tend to use a Delay- rather than a Reverb-Effect on vocals for the pure reason of keeping the vocals clear and forward in the mix. I have the feeling that many people like reverb (and sometimes a lot of) on their vocals to veil their shortcomings in this department. If I use reverb on my vocals it usually tends to be a larger one where the ambience of a larger room/hall is needed for the song. Tony
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Questions on T4S Tonematch Operational Features

DMC ·
Hello, all! De-esser How do you use it? I had a gig yesterday and I heard some prominent 's' sounds. I fooled around with the knobs and such but didn't really know what I was doing. What does turning the GAIN up and down do exactly, and what does turning the other thing (thresh?) up and down do? What does 'trigger' level mean? How do you know at what trigger level to set the trigger level at? 'ppreciate any help. Same question, actually, for all the COMP/GATE effects in that there are two...
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Re: Questions on T4S Tonematch Operational Features

ST ·
Hi Douglas, I'm sorry no one has replied. De-esser The De-esser removes some of the sibilance (S) sounds from the channel where you use it. Threshold: 0 to -50 dB As you lower the threshold, you increase the sensitivity of the De-esser. At -50 dB it is more sensitive than 0 dB. At 0 dB it may not appear to be doing at all unless the (S) sounds are really pronounced. Gain: 0 to 30 dB When the De-esser removes sound (because the sound is greater than the Threshold), the overall sound may drop...
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Re: stereo effects

paradis ·
Thanks! For clarity, I'm a longtime T1 user, investigating the new mixers. Having stereo reverb is nice. But I'm slightly amazed that the chorus is only mono, knowing how great an effect stereo chorus can be. Why is that if I may ask? Especially since any modern effects unit, built in or not, seems to have it. Is it because many of the Bose mixers will be used in L1 setups with 'one side only' mono operation, where having just one side of a stereo chorus would sound strange (especially if...
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Re: stereo effects

ST ·
Hi paradis, The Reverb through the main outputs is stereo. When you use Reverb in the Aux 1 output, it is mono. When panning, the Reverb remains centered. The Delays and Modulation effects are mono, but if you run really loud, you may hear a little cross-talk with the Delays when you panned hard to one side. ST
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stereo effects

paradis ·
Does the effect engine of the new mixers operate in stereo? Are chorus and reverb in stereo? When panning a channel in stereo operation, does the reverb effect pan together with the source signal, or does it stay centered, with only the source signel following the pan? Thank you.
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ccc ·
Is your guitar stereo? you can place effects on channels. Other then that a mono signal running through two channels.
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ccc ·
As far as i know you can not place a mono signal into a board and get stereo. If your source is mono you can drive that signal out of your board's output (stereo out) but it is mono into both. You need a stereo source for stereo signal. EG. Guitar two pic ups verses one. Stereo is not the same as a mono signal coming out of two channels, two different signal paths for stereo, mono is one signal which can be channeled through the stereo outs. The effects can be loaded differently on stereo...
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ccc ·
Thanks ST although it may sound picky I get questioned and nailed for using the term stereo generically. I see many using the term stereo, meaning two channels, this is not true stereo. I am not saying one is better, meaning stereo verses stereo effects. I am interested in how effects route out when using an effects loop verses the front of the amp in both stereo and stereo effects. I will check you references shortly as I just read your response.
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Re: stereo effects

ST ·
Hi ccc, There's lots to read on the web about reverb mono input => stereo output. Here are a few places to start: https://audioease.desk.com/cus...-vs-stereo-to-stereo https://www.strymon.net/faq/mo...-stereo-connections/ https://www.reddit.com/r/guita...n_stereo_out_reverb/ and more search results for Reverb mono input stereo output ST
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Re: stereo effects

paradis ·
Hi CCC, yes the source will stay mono, but a stereo effect algorithm will create a stereo sound effect 'around' it, with has slightly different L and R signals. This creates a bigger, more interesting sound. There are even three channel chorusses around, to enhance your mono guitar sound.
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Re: stereo effects

ST ·
Hey paradis, No need to apologize. It's great to have all of us in the conversation. ST
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Re: stereo effects

paradis ·
Hi ST, I'm sorry, I hadn't seen your answer to CC yet.
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t4s - send to different mixer with effects

secondrow joe ·
Hi. I have a ts4, and LOVE the sound of the effects on my acoustic guitar and vocal mic when playing as a duo (basically just eq, reverb, and instrument selection), with the ts4 connected directly to the L1 model 2. When playing in a 4-piece band (10 total channels), we run my ts4 to our 16-ch mixer and then to the L1, but the sound isn't as yummy. I've been using a 1/4" instrument cable from the mono R output jack to the other mixer. Which output and/or settings can i use to get the same...
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Re: t4s - send to different mixer with effects

ST ·
Hi SecondRow Joe, Thank you for joining the Bose Portable PA Community. You can leave your T4S Connected to the Model II Power Stand with the ToneMatch cable. Then run the mixer to the Model II Power Stand Analog Input for everybody else. OR If you aren't using T4S Channels 5 / 6 connect your mixer outputs to 5 / 6 and have just one connection to the Model II Power Stand. ST
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Re: t4s - send to different mixer with effects

ST ·
Hi secondrow joe, The signal out of the T4S Left, Right, and Aux 1 outputs all have full effects. I didn't go into that because you said the sound "wasn't as yummy". That's not easy to diagnose. The best way to keep the sound you like from the T4S is to connect it to the L1® rather than routing it through another device. ST
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Re: t4s - send to different mixer with effects

secondrow joe ·
thx, some good ideas to try.......does that mean that there is no way to send effects to an external mixer through one of the outputs? thx
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Re: Selecting Audio effect settings between songs.

Hi zachern, Thank you for joining the Bose Portable PA Community. This is a really interesting question. The T8S doesn't support midi control. You have four Aux sends (every channel can be assigned to one of the four Aux sends). And there are two Aux inputs that you can use as Effect returns. If that sounds like that will work with your external effects, then the T8S could work for you. But if you're looking for a mixer that can replace both the Mackie 1604 VLZ and your external effects unit...
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Selecting Audio effect settings between songs.

zachern ·
I am in the process of researching the option of purchasing a t8s tonematch. I presently have been using a Mackie 1604 VLZ and a separate effects processor that we control via a midi pedal to select the effects for each song. Is there a quick way of selecting the effects between songs using the t8s?
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Re: Selecting Audio effect settings between songs.

zachern ·
I understand that I cannot use the midi control. I wanted to see if there is a quick way that I can change the effects between songs (I.E. turn a knob to a preset setting that would set the effect for all channels) I dont want to have to go into the effects and save the saturation , etc each time I want to use a particular effect.
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