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wireless mic feedback

lowG ·
I'm using a shure wireless mic with the L1 compact and getting a ton of feedback. Tried repositioning the L1C but no luck. Any suggestions?
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Seagullman ·
Hi LowG, and a warm welcome to the forum from me, too. If you could give us more information regarding your system we may be able to give more precise advice/tips as to finding a way to reduce the feedback problem. Which Shure wireless microphone model are you using? This information will let us know which directionality (polar pattern) the microphone has (directionality means from which side/s the microphone actually hears sound. Omnidirectional means that it receives sound from all sides...
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Re: wireless mic feedback

ST ·
Hi LowG, Thank you for joining the Forum. Is your Shure wireless microphone hand-held or something that you clip to your clothing or wear on your head? Here are some general tips for dealing with Microphone Feedback. Does that help? ST
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Re: wireless mic feedback

hello it depends on capsule, You use. A Headset with almost 360° is more liable to feedbacks than a hyper-cardiodid Mic. May be a higher distance to the Array will reduce the feedbacks
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Re: wireless mic feedback

Seagullman ·
Hi LowG, thanks for the information regarding the microphone. Is this the one we're talking about? http://cdn.shure.com/specifica...cification_Sheet.pdf If so I've had a look at the specs for it. The polar pattern is cardioid (they say it's unidirectional but the cardioid pattern will probably not be able to reject enough of the signal from the loudspeaker to be feedback free when standing in front of it. Apollo Audio & Stage Services wrote: "it depends on capsule, You use. A Headset...
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Re: wireless mic feedback

lowG ·
Thank you for the information. I just bought a Shure PGA31. I hope that will help. I've tried moving the L1C. It is really odd because it happens more with one presenter than others. I tried turning down the tone but it got very basey. Oh the mic in this case is only used for speaking. When I used a corded mic for singing -- no problems! Again, thank you for the information.
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Re: wireless mic feedback

Lee Wright ·
Hi LowG, I run a hire company where we use the Compacts & L1 Model 2's a lot. Headsets are always a lot more feedback prone than hand helds & when you use then with a rear mounted speaker like the Compact you're looking for trouble. A couple of things I can suggest: -The Shure WH20 is the dynamic version of that type of headset. They're reasonably priced & a lot more feedback resistant. -We often use feedback eliminators like the DBX AFS224, AFS2 or DriveRack. Not everyone likes...
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lowG ·
Thank you Lee. I'll look into the WH20
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ST ·
Hi lowg, I suggest that you try the Shure PGA31 since you've actually go it. I have one and I've used it for public speaking with a Compact many times. It was fine to stand in front of the Compact as long as I was aware that I should not turn around and look at the Compact while wearing it. The feedback occurred when I as I was turning toward it or walking close to the Compact. It was fine as long as my head was between the microphone and the Compact. I also have a Shure WH20. I got it after...
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Re: wireless mic feedback

Seagullman ·
Hi lowG , ST's advice: "I suggest that you try the Shure PGA31 since you've actually go it. I have one and I've used it for public speaking with a Compact many times. It was fine to stand in front of the Compact as long as I was aware that I should not turn around and look at the Compact while wearing it. The feedback occurred when I as I was turning toward it or walking close to the Compact. It was fine as long as my head was between the microphone and the Compact." is really good advice.
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lowG ·
Thank you Tony. I will try your suggestions
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Re: wireless mic feedback

lowG ·
Thank you ST. I will keep your tips in mind.
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Re: wireless microphone

ST ·
Hi Marco, Thank you for joining the Community. What kind of microphone are you using now? Please say more about the "serious interferences" you are experiencing. I'd like to understand the problem better. Thank you, ST
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wireless microphone

Marco ·
Hi all I am a Zumba Instructor using for my sessions the L1 Compact system. Now for some of my courses (Strong by Zumba) I need a Wireless (Sport-) microphone to explain during the dance sessions the various movements. Zumba Music is very loud :-) and when using my microphone I get some serious interferences. Is there any possibility to avoid these (without lowering the volume) or any there any specific Wireless (Sport-)microphone compatible with the L1 system thanks for any help best marco
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Marco ·
Hi for the time being I am practising with the "SAMSON CR77 UHF true Diversity Receiver together with the AH1 Samson (CH E3) Wireless microphone" -- a device used quite a lot in the Sport environment. To explain any choreography I'm using the microphone while the music is playing. So as the volume of the music is mostly to the upper level, when giving the instructions through the microphone, interferences appear(acoustical feedback). To avoid these biiiiiiiiiiip noise, the volume is to be...
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Re: wireless microphone

ST ·
Hi Marco, From your description, you are experiencing acoustic feedback. Feedback occurs when the sound from the L1® Compact is louder at the microphone than the sound of the voice. This is shown in the diagram below. Note that in the diagram an L1 system is shown but the same fundamental fact is true for ANY loudspeaker. If you understand this diagram, it is relatively easy to understand how changes in an amplification system and the room can contribute to either increasing or decreasing...
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Re: wireless microphone

Lee Wright ·
Hi Marco, I own Compacts & use sports headsets a bit for our outdoor events. What I would suggest it to locate the Compact off to the side so it's closer to your participants & further away from you. Perhaps angled at 45 degrees That type of headset is good in that it's a large diaphragm but the problem is that it's also a condenser type mic. For this sort of thing I normally go for a dynamic. The only one I know of is the Shure WH20. I have a couple & they work well. Fortunately...
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Re: wireless microphone

Marco ·
Thanks for this explanation and the drawings I have changed the position of the amplification system and it seems to work (no feedback occurred) thanks at lot marco
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Marco ·
Hi Lee thanks for your detailed explanation. I investigated on the Shure system, but it seems that it is not compatible with my Samson receiver system. Anyway I have changed the position of the L1 Compact and now it works thanks for your help
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ST ·
Hi marco, Great news about the feedback solution. Thanks for coming back to tell us that you're okay. ST
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Re: Wireless Mics

ST ·
Hi Shyam, Connections for wireless microphones are very similar to using wired microphones. Looking back at your previous posts, I see you have a T1®. That has four channels so you can connect up to four wireless microphone receivers. But you will probably want a least one channel for your backing tracks. So that leaves three. I would find most lavalier microphones are too prone to feedback to use for Karaoke or live performance situations. But handheld microphones are fine when used...
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Wireless Mics

Sam K ·
Is it feasible to use Wireless Handheld and Lavalier microphones with ToneMatch Mixer? If so, how many can one connect to 1 ToneMatch Mixer? Would greatly appreciate any connection info, if it is technically feasible. Thanks so much! Shyam
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Sam K ·
ST - Yes, that helps. Thanks so much! Shyam
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Re: Correct Setup for DJs on the T8s

ST ·
Hi Cory, Congratulations! Please make sure you are running the latest firmware. See: T8S Firmware Updates Please tell us more about this connection. Do you have another mixer with RCA outputs? Please give us a link to the owner's manual. Consider using the USB to PC connection (find this under Prefs on the Rotary Selector). Please see: USB B from PC For both of these, please see: Gain Staging Use the Aux outputs. See: Aux Outputs For the F1 Model 812 systems see; T8S to F1 Model 812 Tip Ring...
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Correct Setup for DJs on the T8s

DJ Cory Barron ·
Greetings Bose Community! I just purchased the the T8s mixer but i'm a little confused on the proper setup for my gear. RCA to L+R 1/4" inputs from mixer (main mix) 1/8" to L+R 1/4" inputs from laptop for Spotify (filler/backup) XLR to XLR from Shure Wireless Mic XLR to XLR from Shure Wired Mic Also want to have a record out available for videographers or to record my mixes while i'm using the main XLRs Using (2) F1s or (2) L1M2B2 Any advice is greatly appreciated!
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L1 Compact Output to Wireless/Bluetooth Ear Monitors

Dr. J ·
Wondering if anyone has tried/experienced using Wireless Ear Monitors thought the Output of the L1 Compact. I'm already using 2 L1 Compacts (via Daisy Chain) so an additional Monitor (S1 Pro) is not practical or economical. I have tried to reposition the 2 L1 Compacts the "left @9 o'clock" and right @3 o'clock" still getting some feedback, but more importantly I need to hear myself. One suggestion (Local Music Store) is to get a Bluetooth Transmitter (using the 1/4" L1 Compact Output" and an...
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Re: L1 Compact Output to Wireless/Bluetooth Ear Monitors

Dr. J ·
Thank You All for the suggestions; feedback etc. I will try the speaker placement as Jeff suggested failing that I'm sure a small mixer would also help.
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Re: L1 Compact Output to Wireless/Bluetooth Ear Monitors

DJ Erv ·
A music store suggested a bluetooth transmitter and earbuds for monitoring? Do their employees actually gig? We've tested it out and even with APTX bluetooth, you still get an unacceptable delay for monitoring live sound. Bluetooth is good for backing tracks. Good wireless In-Ear Monitors will cost you more than an S1 Pro. Cheaper would be get a small mixer and plug some wired in-ears into them. We mainly DJ but we also do a lot of sound reinforcement for conferences, schools, and occasional...
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Stephen ·
I would use a small mixer and feed everything into that and send an out from that to each Compact rather than daisy chain. You then have an Aux out on your mixer to feed whichever channels you want into your monitor, being in ear of floor monitor
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Dr. J ·
Thank You Stephen - I thought about the Mixer route - will revisit that thought; thanks again.
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Jeff K ·
Our acoustic trio is left-right lead vox, cajon+vox, guitar+vox. We run a small Mackie ProFX mixer into two L1 Compacts (Mackie Left/Right XLR outputs to Left & Right L1 Compacts via Balanced 1/4" inputs, ToneMatch off). A couple of notes: The L1 Compact has near 180 degree coverage and are actually designed to be *behind* the performer, maybe off to the side a hair, so in your setup your mic may be to close to the sides of the L1's and causing the feedback. We've always had our L1's...
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Re: L1 Compact Output to Wireless/Bluetooth Ear Monitors

ST ·
Hi Dr J Wow - what a great discussion. You've been getting lots of great input. Your signal chain includes the Please try disabling the "Tone" feature. I have found it can work wonders or cause feedback. Most of the time, the latter. Cheers, ST
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Re: L1 Compact Output to Wireless/Bluetooth Ear Monitors

Jeff K ·
Hi J, see my bulleted responses below: "Update: continued my research concluded the following re: Mixer" the L1 Compact already has a preamp when using the XLR Mic Input with Treble and Bass Gain Yes, this is true, but it's an overall EQ, nothing you can really use to dial out offending feedback frequencies. My Mic (Shure SM58) signal is coming from my TC-Helicon Harmony Singer (also has Gain and internal Tone) Yes, but again, not meant for feedback control. The mic output is also still mic...
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Re: L1 Compact Output to Wireless/Bluetooth Ear Monitors

Dr. J ·
Update: continued my research concluded the following re: Mixer the L1 Compact already has a pre-amp when using the XLR Mic Input with Treble and Bass Gain My Mic (Shure SM58) signal is coming from my TC-Halicon Harmony Singer (also has Gain and internal Tone) Will still receive a "Mono" sound if the L/R out from small mixer is directed to Each L1 Compact separately That all being said; a small mixer would still provide "some" control during performance (although I ONLY increase gain on the...
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Re: L1 Compact Output to Wireless/Bluetooth Ear Monitors

Dr. J ·
One other question - to Avoid Daisy Chain of the 2 L1 Compacts. I can connect the keyboard L & R to the 1/4 input to each of the 2 L1 Compacts I can connect the Phones Out of my Keyboard to the Instrument in of the TC Halicon Harmony singer Question: can i use a XLR Splitter from the TC Halicon XLR Out to go to Each XLR Li Compact's? The result would be L&R from Keyboard to each L1 Compact and TC Halicon XLR Split to each L1 Compact
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Re: L1 Compact Output to Wireless/Bluetooth Ear Monitors

Dr. J ·
Excellent - I will try and advise - Thanks again
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Re: L1 Compact Output to Wireless/Bluetooth Ear Monitors

Dr. J ·
Ok wanted to update this discussion after all the help and excellent suggestions etc. I performed yesterday and tried the XLR splitter > Out from TC Halicon Harmony singer directly into each L1 Compact and the Keyboard L/R 1/4 directly into each L1 Compact.......It worked without any issues. I only adjusted the Gain (down) on the Harmony Singer - but left on the "bright"....next time will make the Harmony Singer "less bright". While I had no issues (fairly large room) I will rent a small...
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Re: L1 Compact Output to Wireless/Bluetooth Ear Monitors

Dr. J ·
Thanks Jeff for ALL your "input". FYI - this is what I sound like "direct" from L1 Compact RCA Out to Zoom H4n Recorded; No Effects - just as I sound Live with One L1 Compact https://youtu.be/Adqu1X2bbCk
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Jeff K ·
Excellent! Glad to hear it performed better and the XLR splitter worked without issue. Regarding the mixer out, you can either either use the 1/4" or XLR Main outs to the Bose 1/4" inputs. Ideally you would use balanced cables: 1/4" TRS to TRS, or XLR to 1/4" TRS (which I use). You can use unbalanced 1/4" TS cables, i.e. a guitar or keyboard signal cable, but you would lose about 6dB in volume level, and if your cables are longer than 25' you may start to lose some highs. Jeff
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Jeff K ·
Very cool I wanted to ask where you got your keyboard and freestanding banners at? We have a couple of 8"x10" logos we Velcro to the front of our L1's (below the speakers, of course, heehee) and one larger 2'x6'(ish) that we bought to hang behind us, but it's rare that we can actually hang that on the walls of where we play. Pretty much only works when we use a 10x10 canopy. I like the idea of the standup one you have. Thanks, Jeff
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Dr. J ·
Hello Jeff I purchase all my 'marketing stuff" from Vista Print (.ca for Canada). Banner One 20 X 36 I used velcro to attached to a small metal rod (very light weight) which sits on the Mic/IPad Stand which attaches to the Quick Lok Keyboard Stand Vertical Banner is 30 X 72 the Metal Grommets are 'extra' but give you the option to hanging on a back drop etc I ordered the Banner Stand and use a couple small bags (filled with sand) when Outdoors In general it keeps "my branding" consistence...
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Jeff K ·
Cool, we use them for our business cards, not sure if we got our current banner/cardboard panels from them but will take a look. As they're too big / too small many times I wanted to get a mid sized one like in front of your keyboard, probably a solid one to stand up down front as we don't have a handy keyboard stand...or keyboard The tall one would be good as well, larger and higher for viewing, but not so troublesome to find a place to put it up (and no worrying about tacking it to...
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Bluetooth transmitter solution - for T1 to S1 Pro

hoohaa1 ·
Looking to purchase an S1 Pro. I already have an L1 Model 2 that has really been a game changer for me the last few years. What I'm looking for advice on is a way to extend the coverage of my L1 on occasions wirelessly to the S1 Pro. I can obviously do this with a cable, but seeing as the S1 Pro has bluetooth - can anyone recommend a simple solution that I can connect the master from my T1 tonematch to transmit the same signal to the S1 Pro - say at the other end of room for coverage? I've...
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Re: Bluetooth transmitter solution - for T1 to S1 Pro

troubador ·
I'm not very knowledgeable on this and I can assure you that there are others in this group who can give you a definitive answer ... but I will chip in my 2 cents. My understanding is that Bluetooth is limited by a range of around 20 feet. I suspect that once you get past 15', signal degradation will begin. If that is correct (and I'm not sure that it is), my guess is that a Bluetooth solution is not what you're looking for. Like I said, my 2 cents worth. On the other hand, I use an L1M2...
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Re: Bluetooth transmitter solution - for T1 to S1 Pro

hoohaa1 ·
That's all super helpful Jeff thanks. Hadn't dawned on me with lag - which obviously isn't an issue if just streaming music but not performing at same time. I actually bought a complete wireless in ear solution recently as exploring for band gigs and when need to have system in front of me. It's top end but I'm new to the tech. It's a shure PMS 300. Just wondering could I use it for this purpose. It has a transmitter base and a wireless body back with earphones as a monitor. In theory could...
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Re: Bluetooth transmitter solution - for T1 to S1 Pro

Jeff K ·
Bluetooth would not be at all suitable for this purpose due to very noticeable transmission latency (i.e. audio delay) that would result in your S1 Pro audio being up to 5 seconds behind the L1 audio. (To get an idea, just play music on a cell phone connected to your car's Bluetooth and see how long it takes to respond when you hit pause, play or skip. YMMV of course). A better solution would be a standard wireless mic/guitar transmitter/receiver pair. I have used a the transmitter and...
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Re: Bluetooth transmitter solution - for T1 to S1 Pro

Jeff K ·
An in-ear monitor would work great, it's the same technology as wireless mics so it's the same concept. And ST is right, you can just use a the cable he suggested in Channel 3 of the S1 Pro. Jeff
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Re: Bluetooth transmitter solution - for T1 to S1 Pro

hoohaa1 ·
Hey Troubadour, Thanks yeah I've filled huge rooms sometimes with same setup - my issue though is in long rooms where the sound needs to be super loud at my end and causing feedback at times. So want to reduce my main level and then give a boost or coverage to end of room. Did this with a cable to another powered speaker someone else had for another function room before and was perfect solution - so just looking at wireless options to cut that cabling out (if possible). But good feedback...
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Re: Bluetooth transmitter solution - for T1 to S1 Pro

ST ·
Hi Hoohaa1, It looks like the body pack receiver for the Shure PSM 300 uses an ordinary 1/8" headphone jack. That could be compatible with the S1 Pro Aux input. If you try it, please let us know how it works for you. ST
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