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NEW VIDEO: The L1® Approach and the History Of Amplification

Ken-at-Bose
Hi Folks, Thanks to our colleagues in Europe (including Wiek-at-Bose-Europe in this community) we have a new video that covers where the L1 approach to live music amplification comes from, and why. We hope you enjoy it. The L1® Approach and the History Of Amplification Video (Many thanks to ST for helping port this to the L1 Wiki. ) With best regards, Ken --== click the picture to see the video ==-- edit: clickable imageRead More...
Hi Chadley, Does the seating include places where listeners' ears would be above the top of the L1 systems, for example in a balcony or at the top of a steeply raked auditorium? If so, then yes, I'd recommend that you augment the sound coming off the stage L1s with PA to fill in those locations. KenRead More...

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As a live sound engineer who is new to the Bose approach I've been watching videos of bands using the L1 systems live to get some idea of different set up possibilities. On the Bose YouTube channel there is a video of Foreigner doing a gig in 2014 with four L1 systems. There is a good overall shot of the stage at this point in the video: https://youtu.be/sibKEEBlfWs?t=1m28s I noticed a couple of things I'd like to ask about: 1. The band has two L1s behind them and two L1s in front, the...Read More...
Hi Bruno, I'm not sure if you can see, but in this setup, I was miking an a cappella group and I was using 4 mics. The two condensers in the middle and if you look closely, you'll see two boundary mics on the floor. Those were directed towards the side singers. The reason for this was that having the singers between the mic and the L1, eliminated any potential feedback issues. The stand mics did double duty for the back singers and any soloists that stood up and moved closer to the mics. The...Read More...
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Bose White Papers

ST
Digging back into the archives I found a couple of compelling documents. Applying the Benefits of Unamplified Acoustic Music to Performances with Amplification (pdf file: 2.59 MB) This is a wonderful document that will be of interest to all musicians, music lovers and anyone interested in the L1 ® . It speaks to the intent, technology and the application of the Bose ® Personalized Amplification System™ family of products. Amplifying a Wide Range of Acoustic and Electric Guitar Sounds Across...Read More...

DJ Setup for Weddings

Recently I have experimented with various setups for a typical 200 person wedding in a ballroom. I recently found that this setup sounded best. Equipment used: 1 Bose Model II with B2 2 Bose Compacts 1 ToneMatch 1 Denon MC-6000MK2 I used the Model II in the center of the room Then I used the pair of Compacts on each side of the dance floor - approx 25 to 30 feet apart from the Model II. I then placed the compacts on my Booth channel on the mixer, with the Model II on the Main. I ran...Read More...

The test of time has spoken.

Mister "D"
I guess I will post this here beings I don't have the option of posting it under reviews. Bose has received many accolades over the years for L1 system, and rightfully so. The concept of having your music behind you, and being able to hear what your audience hears is invaluable. The sound of the Bose is second to none in my opinion also. But all of those awards could not be evaluated over the test of time. How reliable is this system over the long haul? Can you take the Bose L1 Model II out...Read More...
Hi Mister "D", I really do think that what most of us want is to know that the system we buy will still be repairable even after 10 years. For most of us I think that it really would be enough if we, or a repair tech of our choice, could access the schematics for discontinued models that Bose aren't going to repair anyway. Let's take a look at Musician A: He's not gigging an awful lot. Let's say 1 to 2 gigs a month. Over 10 years that would mean no more than 250 gigs, and the system can...Read More...

BI Reflectors

Our Band is finding that most of our gigs are outdoors and although we have absolutely no complaints on the bass sound I was prompted to look into improvements. In my reading I see that one recommended idea is to place the B1 sides as close to a wall as possible. In an outdoor event this is of course not possible But I was wondering if it would be beneficial to place some sort of portable short wall behind the B1's as a sort of reflector. The more mass the better but would the theory prove...Read More...
Gentlemen, All good answers, Thanks! Sounds like I'll dis the reflector idea and look into the Auralex pad. As I mentioned I have never heard any complaints, and nothing but compliments with the L1's indoors or out. I'm glad I asked though since it puts it to rest in my head.Read More...

The future of our church sound lies in the balance

Hello sound people, My inner nerd has spent some time browsing discussions and loving it but i am now being tested on the 'hype'. I proclaimed to my pastor that a small church as ours doesn't need the old mixer, huge bass cabinet and multiple monitors (that are all locally fabricated by the way) that make the acoustics sound overwhelming and unnatural. Of course i told him about the revolution that is the Bose L1... even though i have not personally heard it myself. So he told me to go ahead...Read More...
Drumr, I am so grateful for your response. I am going to recommend the setup that you suggested. I am also gong to advise on the electronic drums and a countryman mic. How would we record the service with this kind of setup? Would i still have to introduce a traditional mixer into the setup? I see that the T1 audio engine can be used with a computer? How? I am in a country that uses 220V. Can i get an Eu version or is my only option to get a step down transformer? THansk again. I appreciate...Read More...

Looking for new direction

I have played since the 70's quit full time beginning of the 80's have been a weekend warrior ever since. I play fiddle , guitar and sing. have always had a small pa rig to sing through. This summer I went to a family event and this fella brings a L1 to the jam session. I was blown away by the sound. My L1 M2 B2 w/tonematch will be delivered tomorrow and I am excited to get started with it. I currently play through two classic peavey 50 4/10 (one for the fiddle and one for the guitar) but am...Read More...
Bit of a bummer, The L1 M2 will not fit in my basement studio. But!! it does look like a piece of furniture in the living room That's not the reason for this post and here is what I have decided works best for me. Scrap the GNX4 and go straight to the Tonematch. I am going to set up 5 scenes the common in all scenes will be my mic and fiddle. Each seen will differ by the guitar. I am using the PRS Custom 22, Telecaster, Stratocaster for my Schecter Strat, and finally the D28 Martin. I have a...Read More...

Can't have it both ways!

I started out my venue with our first 5 shows running on the L1 M1s B2s and T1s. (2 each). Had to add a couple small mixers to add a couple extra inputs. The sound was fantastic, until Saturday night. What changed you ask. Simple, I let a country band use their equipment. The L1's for vocal and lead singer's acoustic/electric guitar. Straight electric wanted to use his amp as did the bass guitar and steel guitar and the bass drum. Needless to say although loud it wasn't balanced, the guitar...Read More...
Hi FRR Ron, Thanks for telling us about your experience. Too bad that it didn't turn out better. It shouldn't have to be all or nothing, and it doesn't. What I've found is hybrid setups like this [b]can[/i] work, when band is to be committed to making it work.Read More...

Making a Living with the L1®

ST
Here's an article from the inventor of the L1®, Cliff Henricksen. When I was a full-time musician playing in restaurants and clubs in the early 1970's, I and everyone else doing the same were making $50-$100 a night playing in bands, 4 or 5 piece. I also played in a rock and roll duo with a big PA, singing drummer who occasionally played left-hand Rhodes bass. It was a musical circus, sounded good and we made even more money than most individually. My musical colleagues all nod in agreement...Read More...
I worked from high school through college full time as a keyboardist but these past few years I have made a living as a soundman. I live in the Orlando area and worked for Disney World doing sound for quite a few years, but currently do sound for a couple of Churches: one with a Saturday service and the other on Sunday mornings. In the process of doing so much live sound, I have lost quite a bit of my high frequency hearing in my left ear. Now I'm working my way back into being a musician...Read More...

The Cost to Go Bose

I spent some time on the couch recently (recouping from some medical issues) - and ended up on a forum with some heated debates about the L1 system. There was quite a bit of bashing for this uninformed reason or that uninformed reason that was easy enough to ignore - having used the system for nearly a year now. However, the most common complaint was the relative cost to go this approach - especially for a group - to use the system as intended with each performer having their own unit. The...Read More...
There are a couple of things left out of this cost analysis: 1/ The cost of a truck vs regular car or SUV. 2/ A storage unit (for those of us without a large house).Read More...

Making the most of the Stage and venue restrictions

The Jackson Fox Band plays a wide array of music in bars, halls, outdoors. We are a four piece band using two L1 MII with 2B1 each and tone match per. We use boutique stage amps as that is the sound we prefer. I purchased the Bose five years back and loved it for acoustic solo/duo shows and used it as prescribed and loved it. The issue arose when used in bars where we could not get enough sound pressure for vocals without feedback. This, I believe, is due to two things; general loud sound...Read More...
I have experience many times that when using the L1 for vocals, and amplifiers for the guitars... that the ability to get a good balanced sound is compromised and the tendency is to bring the mic levels up to the point of feedback for one simple reason. The guitar amps are set too loud... it's nobodys fault.. since usually the amps are placed down low and firing at the guitarists calves, so in order for them to perceive their volume, and hear what they are playing, the amps end up really...Read More...

Bigger is not better!!!!

Hi everyone!! I am new to the Bose L1 system. Here is my story, I play in a 5 piece female fronted cover rock band, playing small gigs in North Tampa, Florida area. We have a top end triple system with mains, when stacked up on the sides of the stage, hits the 7 foot tall mark. Also, a full rack with effects, crossovers, over 3000 watts of power amps, 4 floor monitors and enough cables to go around the world twice. It takes an average of 4 hours to set up for a gig. Now, the band is not a...Read More...
Hi Bill, Here's a little background information that you might enjoy. The L1® Approach and the History of AmplificationRead More...

Horizontal Linear (8)B1 Array

I would be interested if an idea I had using 8 B1's lined in front of a Keyboard/Drum platform(approx 12' in width) and arranged in a slight arc would have any merit? Our rock bank uses 2 L1's classics with 8 B1(2 packlites). We have always used the conventional 2/4 stacks behind us and with great success. I recently read in the though that the B1's radiate sound from the grille and because of this the B1's dont neccesarily need to be stacked and in doing so may loose a some low/mid range.Read More...
Yeah, ST, I think I misunderstood Mike's original comment/concern. I believe you've answered the actual question with the post above - thanks! That makes sense. The whole thread did make me check my B1's, though, and sure enough I didn't have the ports oriented the same way. Not a big deal, I know, but I could use all the help I can get!Read More...

Pics of L1M2 outdoors

Troisnoir
I recently used my Model II w/2 B1's for outdoor background music at a church BBQ. Thought I'd give some reference pics. These are on my cellphone, which is slightly wide-angle, so I seem farther away than I am, but I'll give you distance estimates... Pic 1: About 30 yards or so away. Sound was completely clear, loud, fairly full fidelity. iPod at 75% into Tonematch, with channel vol about 11 o'clock, master 12 o'clock. T1 set for DJ Low Volume. Pic 2: Basically double the distance, plus a...Read More...

So far, so good!

I just received my L1S, B1, T1. So far, so good! It took me a couple tries to update my Tonematch to get those lovely Gibson presets for my J45. I hit a bump and lost the default settings the first try, but was able to work through it without much difficulty. I've only played in my kitchen for my family but the sound is quite sweet and easy to achieve. I'm so excited to gig with it I've booked a freebie just to get started. I mostly perform in solo or duo configurations so this will fit the...Read More...
Hi Kcirtap, Congratulations on your first time out with the L1®. Reading your post I was reminded of how it IS a confidence booster go be able really hear yourself (and finesse the mics and instruments as a result). It's also really nice to know that you can be heard all the way to the rear of a restaurant. No better proof than you got with people walking up to pay compliments, and compliment$.Read More...

Minneapolis Proposes Venues Provide Ear Plugs

ST
The Minneapolis music scene may be best known for giving the world Prince, The Replacements and Semisonic, but it may soon become the incubator for something far bigger. City Council member Jacob Frey is sponsoring an ordinance that would require all venues with a liquor license to provide free earplugs to patrons—and if the ordinance passes in April, its backers have dreams of scaling it nationally and potentially around the world. Read More » If there is a raised awareness of the risk of...Read More...
Since the proposed ordinance has no provision for controlling sound level, I see no real opportunity for the L1 series to make a difference that doesn't already exist. As I read it, it would be mandatory for the venues to have ear protection available, but no one is required to use it, use is strictly voluntary. It may just be an excuse for loud bands to play louder, and when someone complains about the volume they remind them that ear plugs are available at the door. I had lunch today at a...Read More...

Loving my L1

I'm a retired senior citizen and I perform at senior living, nursing and rehab facilities in my area. The L1 is ideal for my solo performances. The sound is awesome and I always get lots of compliments and never any complaints.Read More...
Hi Paul, I know just what you mean. And when you get to the wrong side of 60 as we both are, then your memories can become important again as all else begins to fade ... Lol. Take care, TonyRead More...

Stepping out from behind the microphone (stand)

ST
Stepping out from behind the microphone Using the L1™ means we can clear a lot of "stuff" off the stage. What remains is even more noticeable. I am thinking about getting rid of the microphone stand or at least getting it out of the way. This came up recently in Sight Lines and the T1™ . Is anybody considering the transition to a headworn microphone? The microphone on a stand is starting to feel like the last of those walls that separate me from the audience. I didn't notice it when there...Read More...
Hi ST, Before I play and sing anywhere I don't usually eat that much anyway so that there's no undue pressure on the diaphragm. I also discovered years ago that drinks made from hops (e.g. beer) tend to lie on my vocal cords or at least do something detrimental to singing (apart from getting inebriated) so I usually avoid that anyway before a gig, but as an amateur (i.e. not playing for a living) I decided long ago not to leave everything out just for the few % that I might gain by doing so.Read More...
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How Large Can it Go?

My recent experience listening to music at a local festival got me thinking: Realistically - how big a venue can an L1 system serve? There have got to be some limitations on the present designs - has the testing on that been completed? What were the findings? What is the limitig factor in scaling up past that point with newer designs? Just Curious.Read More...
For the past 5 years I have used only 2 L-1 model 1's with 4 subs for sound in the North Charleston Convention Center Ballrooms (all 4). The system is for American Talent Showcase. It works flawlessly and covers the entire room with an audience of as many as 500. Last time we added two 18" JBLs (powered by a separate amp and crossover)to give it more punch on the low end. I used to cover the same room with 4 Bose 802II's and before that a very large JBL System with Subs and top boxes. The...Read More...

wallacher guitar hangers WPAS 1

I would like to thank all of you who purchased Guitar hangers for your L1. We are inviting you to let us know if you have any product suggestions or questions you may have regarding our products. We also have hangers for guitar amps and racks too! All our products are 100% guaranteed and are made in USA.Read More...

Imagine a future community hall stage with L1 technology

Imagine you get to design a brand new community hall or church building. I'm thinking of gear in the future not yet built. What if (theoretically) you had similar L1 tower assembly and B1s/B2s, modifed to be fixed into the back wall of the stage, and there were five of them spaced 3m apart across the stage. Five T1 local stations could handle all the on stage musicians. Would most of our sound problems be solved? Wouldn't need a mixer desk at the back, and the in ear monitors and the FOH...Read More...
They could still line out from each system and mix that for a recording. Two well-placed mics would work well too.Read More...

Gear Aquisition Syndrome (GAS) - suffered by so many musicians

DrumrPete
Yes, I have suffered from GAS my entire musical life of 43 years, probably spending more than I've made. In the studio, the list of needs/wants was limitless, and new products come out every month. For the live musician, there was always some new piece of rack gear that you needed to help fix the sound. It was impossible to stop buying the latest necessary item. My GAS is still pumping, I browse the web daily, on eBay, Musicians Friend, Sweetwater, & Full Compass. I just finished the...Read More...
LOL,...OK,...I totally missed the point,...LOLRead More...

Put Your PA Behind You: Paving the Cowpath

ST
When I first read "Put Your PA Behind You" in a recent advertisement from Bose I thought of the expression "Paving the Cowpaths" quote: “Pave the cowpaths,” which means, essentially, look where the paths are already being formed by behavior and then formalize them, rather than creating some sort of idealized path structure that ignores history and tradition and human nature and geometry and ergonomics and common sense. read more... My thoughts on this: "Put Your PA Behind You" acknowledges...Read More...
quote: Originally posted by Drumr: You are a lucky man to have found such thinking musicians. A pair of L1s would be awesome, I'd think, if you can really get your dynamics under control. Having a mindful drummer is the root of the success as well...most volume wars start there. I wish you the best in your endeavor! Thanks, I agree. My current group is the most "musically mature" group I've ever had the privilege to be a part of. After we begin playing regular gigs, starting at the end of...Read More...
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