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T4S/T8S ToneMatch Mixers Feature Requests

ST
Let's use this topic to capture our ideas for feature requests for the T4S/T8S ToneMatch Mixers. Tell us what you would like to see added, and why. We can't promise that Bose will acknowledge or act on every request, but you can be sure that they are following this discussion closely. STRead More...
Reverb does tend to be all or nothing, hence a colleague of mine runs with a BOSS VE20 pedal which is beautiful. Just had a padded bag made for the T4S, fits beautifully and it’s a softer hard wearing fabric than the Bose T1 Codura bag. Cost me €35 and worth every cent. DaveRead More...
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T4S/T8S ToneMatch Mixers - Please update your firmware

ST
If you've just received your T4S/T8S Tonematch mixer please follow the instruction sheet in the box to update your firmware. We want you to enjoy the latest update and functionality of your new mixer. If you've misplaced those instructions see the link below. T4S / T8S firmware updates The latest firmware revision is v1.1.0 (June, 2018) If you're not sure what version you have see: What version is my firmware (T4S/T8S ToneMatch mixers) STRead More...
Hi AH7, Great. Thanks for coming back to tell us you're okay. STRead More...
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Bose T4S & T8S ToneMatch® Mixers

ST
Introducing new Bose ToneMatch® Mixers Unprecedented control, processing and portability Take control of your music with T8S and T4S ToneMatch mixers, compact 8 and 4 channel interfaces designed for performers. Engineered with powerful, DSP engines and intuitive user controls, they offer studio-quality EQ, dynamics and effects processing. Sound great with integrated Bose® ToneMatch processing and zEQ, especially when connected to a Bose L1 or F1 system for full end-to-end tonal control. Play...Read More...
Got a couple of gigs in with my Trio and our new T8S Mixer. Guitar, two vocals and a small drum kit. Totally blown away with the tone coming out of our two L1's with 2 B2's. We've been using a T1 mixer and subbing in a small mixer to one of the T1 channels for over 5 years with great success so this was an easy swap for us. If we have a way bigger or outside gig we add an 812 top cab and an F1 Sub. If the gig gets any bigger than they can handle we rent sound or are on a festival stage that...Read More...
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Tell us what instrument and microphones you use

In order to make sure we are delivering new ToneMatch presets that meet your needs we would love to gain additional insight into what instruments and microphones you currently use or plan to use with the L1(tm) system and T1 ToneMatch(tm) audio engine. I'm setting up this discussion as a way to capture this information. Please reply and let us know. I look forward to hearing from you. CraigRead More...
- Martin 0000-28HW with K&K mini pickup - Martin Sean Colvin signature mode with Fishman UST - Kentucky Artist mandolin - Ned Steinberger electric upright bass WAV4 - Shure SM58 Beta (2)Read More...
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T4S and T1 channels and audio driver

Just upgraded from T1 to T4S for additional channels and hoping audio driver is supported by IPAD. Additional channels: Seems no channel added coz 5/6 is not a dedicated one. It has to be routed to any of the 1,2,3,4 channels in order to be controlled, and worse, you need two channels to make it stereo. USB from PC can only be routed to main, aux, channels 3 and 4. We are losing channels again if we use 3 and 4 for stereo set up, while aux and main is ridiculous coz aux has no dedicated...Read More...
Thanks ST. I have other digital mixers (behringer XR18 and presonus rm32) for my huge gigs. T4S would have been the perfect solution for both small and huge gigs that would really simplify my set up.Read More...
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T4S Audio Driver does not work with iPad DJ app

AUDIO DRIVER. My DJ app in IPAD still can not map out T4 mixer just like T1. Wondering why other digital mixer like behringer, presonus, yamaha (any mixer with usb) can be detected and configured/mapped. Hope there is updated so the audio driver will behave like that of mentioned mixers. rolly wagasRead More...
Thanks for the response ST. This mixer (T4S) would have been my ultimate solution for my full time Entertainment Business (small to huge gigs) because of its compact size, built in FX/processors, USB to IPAD connection, and stereo output. Unfortunately, it did not meet my required features: 5 dedicated channels and proprietary audio driver for my DJ App. I will return this mixer and just use my T1 for small gigs and my other digital mixers (not compact) for huge gigs. Hope there will be and...Read More...
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Delete unused settings

Can I somehow get rid of all the settings that I don't need in "Scenes"? I hate to scroll through a dozen settings and look for my 5 ones.Read More...
Hi W. P. Anthony, You can't delete the User Scenes you aren't using, but you can overwrite them with your Scenes . Try this: Load your favorite scene - one that you created Tap the Save button (rightmost under the display) Assuming that you haven't already saved something in User Scene 01 select User Scene 01 Give the Scene a more meaningful name Save it You'll now have your favorite scene in two locations, but one of them will be in position 6, right under the 5 Bose scenes. Repeat this for...Read More...
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Use T1 with an external effects unit (reverb, in this case)

I would like to use this external reverb unit strictly on the #1 channel (Mic) and not on the other 3 channels. How can I accomplish that?Read More...
Hi W. P. Anthony, Okay - I just saw this. I don't see a way to do this with the T1 because there is only one Aux out on the T1. You can try to eliminate one or both of the external effects units by using the T1 Reverb, or T1 Delay. You can apply these effects to the channels individually. If you can use at least one of the T1 internal effects (e.g. reverb), then you can use one of your external effects (e.g. Echo/Delay) in the way I described in my first post. That's as close as we can get...Read More...
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iPad connected to T4S/T8S via USB?

Just wonder what kind of the cable is needed to connect iPad/iPhone/iPod to Bose T4S/T8S mixer? Julian8023Read More...
Thanks ST, yep it works yet as I think you've mentioned somewhere else on this website, you do not have an access to volume control on either the source of the sound (iPad/iPhone/iPod) nor on the dedicated knob (it doesn't exist on T8S/T4S) but only via main volume control... Cheers Julian8023Read More...
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T8S Reverb doesnt sound as good as on T1 at all

Daniel Blohm
Hi. Since i really love my T1 mixer and I really needed more channels, I "uppgraded" to T8S, and have now tested it booth live and compared it side by side to the T1. Here are my thoughts and questions: The sound without effects is very close, but I do feel that I can hear some small differences in the preamps. Little more defined in the highs and lows compared to the T1. But they do sound very similar. I tried to copy all the settings from my T1 that always sounded great in every...Read More...
hi john, I did like the unit as a whole, it had many positives, but when your gigging the reverb and delays are important, ever room is different, I hope the updates are soon, and a padded bag too,Read More...
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No input signal channels 3 and 4/5

All of a sudden I get no signal into channels 3 and 4/5. I've tried same input and channels 1 and 2 work fine, but nothing from 3 and 4/5. No input lighting up (and output, of course). I've updated firmware, checked all the settings, made sure mute is inactive, etc. Hopefully this is an operator error. If not, could you advise how to proceed? I am out of warranty time wise, but have only used the unit about 6 times. Very embarrassing at the community gig.... I live in the country of west...Read More...
Hi GaryB, It sounds like you have a hardware problem and if that's the case; the T1 will have to be serviced. Please talk to Bose Support to see what they can do to help. STRead More...
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Edit button

How do I turn off the edit function? As it stands, there is always one channel with the blue edit light on. Is this operator error or a design trait? It is very confusing to not be able to see all the channel settings (because there is always one channel that is actively waiting to be edited). Thank you.Read More...
Thanks ST. Got it. Doh! Cheers GaryRead More...
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From T1 to T4S

The single biggest most crazy change from T1 to T4S is the burial of the channel 5/6 music input volume controls under several menu manoeuvres in turning the master dial knob>selecting>selecting>selecting rather than the best option as was on the T1 a volume pot at the end of the channel pots. All very well saying use the volume control on the device or software on the device playing the music but an instant reaction for anyone running a desk in to grab a slider or twist a pot. Once...Read More...
Hi ScubaBadger, Thanks for telling us how you are using your T4S (and adapting to the change from the T1). That's an interesting approach; using the Master Volume and channel one volume to adjust the relative volume between your vocals and backing tracks. Bose engineered the T4S ToneMatch mixer to have four full-function channels and two Aux channels. The Aux channels are routed directly to the Main Output with only Pan and Level adjustments (no changes for routing or signal processing).Read More...
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T8S settings for F1 System FOH

Hi people, I own BOSE F1 Systems and I plan to buy a T8S mixer. Would anyone explain step by step the T8S settings/tricks for F1 System FOH. I have never used BOSE Tonematch mixer before. I downloaded T8S manual but did not find use details with F1 Systems ThanksRead More...
Hi AdamT, T8S to F1 Model 812 Tip Ring Sleeve Connection You can use 1/4 inch Tip-Ring-Sleeve or XLR. You can use Right or Left Outputs. Check the Pan control on all your channels to ensure none of them is panned to the output you are NOT using. You're welcome. STRead More...
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Sayonara, T8S

It is with a heavy heart to say this, but after less than a month, the T8S is being returned tomorrow. It was being used by a long established duo that does about 130 shows a year in North America. The duo has a sound engineer / roadie at all the shows, (the spouse of one of the musicians). We're not neophyte rookies. After about 8 shows, the T8S simply proved to unreliable for prime time. Even with all the firmware updates, resets, etc etc, the unit behaved in a manner that was simply...Read More...
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T8S ch 9/10 routing..

Hi there, Is there any way I can route ch 9/10 to aux 1, 2, 3, 4 (all or selected ones)? I'm using ch 9/10 in stereo image inputs from either my keyboard directly or via Master Out and Aux from another T1 mixer. The rest of T8S inputs are being used as well. But here's the thing. While all other inputs 1-8 can be routed to any Aux (1-4) there is lack of that option for ch 9/10, That defeats the purpose of separate monitoring system (wireless) or foldbacks (wired) for 4 individually tailored...Read More...
Hi Julian8023, Thanks for coming back to tell us how this is working for you. We're all still learning about the various ways we can connect and use the T8S. Cheers! STRead More...
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T4S with Mackie mixer, L1 Model II with B1

ST, can I use TS4 along with mackies mixer. Because my TS4 not have enough channels. If yes, how to connect from L1B2 to TS4 and Mackies mixer? thank you.Read More...
Hi peterdpham, You've got a couple of choices here. The easiest is to turn down the volume on the laptop. If you want to get more involved, you can redirect the USB B from PC to T4S Channel 4. Please see USB B from PC for more details. This will let you control the volume from the laptop with the T4S channel 4 volume control. Does that help? STRead More...
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T8S Analog vs Digital Connection to L1 Model 1S and Model II

ST
Some people have expressed concern because the T8S ToneMatch mixer does not have ToneMatch (digital) connections to L1 Model 1S and L1 Model II. I've taken the time to test this carefully. To my ears, there is no audible difference between the digital and the analog connections. The background and some notes about how I tested follow below. The best way I know to detect differences in sound is to do an A/B switch back and forth instantly. Even a few seconds between listening events can lead...Read More...
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Tonematch T8S Audio Drop outs

Greetings all We played a show last night using the 8TS and experienced numerous unexplained audio drop outs through the speaker mains. The attached audio of the show, recorded via a Zoom 4 camera off the floor, picks them up on one song, but it occurred fairly regularly through the show. They at -1.02, -46 seconds, -30 seconds and -8 seconds in the attached clip. The last three are very obvious. We use twin L1 B2 towers, and the direct input through the bases. We run two vocal mikes, two...Read More...
Update: We played a 300 seat venue on Weds night and there were no issues. The key step taken was the "factory reset" which was not done when the last update was applied, which was installed prior to when the issue flared up. Interestingly, the unit had been used twice previously, (without the factory reset step), with no issues. I don't think it was a stomp box issue. There's a slim possibility it was bad power. It's hard to rule out 100% but I have my doubts. Power is pretty good in these...Read More...
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T8S Connections to House System

Hello ST, I have a gig coming up where I cannot use my Bose system, as I have to plug into a house system, so I intend on using my T8 to DJ with laptop/mics etc. What is the proper way to hook into a house system and using what specific cords? Thanks in advance. Edit title: Previously "T8 Connections", and moved to ToneMatch mixers forum. - Bose Pro Community AdminRead More...
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ToneMatch mixer: Dealing with Feedback

Hi I havent quite got my head a around the EQ -excuse my ignorance if say 5 k is feeding back how to I pin point that frequency within the tone match? I run a QSC Touch mix 16 with the tone match for extra channels if something is feeding back through that its very easy (and obvious what frequency I need to take out ) to make adjustments Thanks in advance :-)Read More...
Hi Jerome Hillier, Please check out our notes about Using the ParaEQ to solve problems There are tips for isolating a frequency so you can attenuate it in the article. There are also some tips in this video starting around 3:30 And some general notes about the Para EQ Does that help? STRead More...
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Top 5 - What do you want to know about your ToneMatch mixer?

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Hi Everybody, We want you to get the most from your ToneMatch mixer (T4S/T8S/T1). What are YOUR top five things you'd like to know about it. Ideas to get you started (but don't stop with these) Set up tips Usage tips Connections How do I ... Tips and tricks (tell us what you want to know about...) Thanks! ST See also: Top 5 - What do you want to know about your S1 Pro system? Top 5 - What do you want to know about your L1? Top 5 - What do you want to know about your F1 Model 812 and F1 SubwooferRead More...
Hello, Jerome Hillier. Thank you, we will take this is a request for information about using a ToneMatch Mixer to deal with audio feedback. We've started a new discussion to talk about solutions. ToneMatch mixer: Dealing with Feedback Bose Pro Community AdminRead More...
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Bose T8s mixer used with 4 x IEMs (or 4 x monitor speakers) via the 4 AUX Sends

Hi ST and all Forum members I have been very impressed, over many years, with your consummate grasp of all things ‘Bose portable PA’. Many, many thanks for all the focussed and incredibly accurate information you’ve provided to the user community. So, to my first post/question. Firstly, I’m a fairly seasoned user of the T1 mixer and have now purchased, but not yet used, a T8s. Secondly, I’m in the process of setting up a ‘Scene’ on the T8s for a group of 4 x harmony vocalists, who use...Read More...
Hi ST Thank you very much for your response to my questions about the AUX outputs of the Bose T8s, I’ve taken it all on board, and will implement; much appreciated. In fact, there was no great urgency to the issue because the band (a Frankie Valli and Four Seasons tribute) is at ‘start-up’ and is actively looking for summer bookings! With respect to your prompt about the firmware update, yes, I carried it out on receipt of the T8s and then reset to factory settings. Thank you once again.Read More...
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Headphones

Speedy
Hi, I am considering buying a T1, but just realized there is no headphones socket. I really need one to use as a monitor for some gigs. I am a soloist with acoustic guitar. For example roadside restaurant, master volume fairly low, can only stand behind my L1-1S, so it's often a challenge to hear myself. With headphones I can hear myself and have confidence that the mix is good. I have an S1 I currently use as a monitor, but it adds a bit too much overall volume. It also appears you can't...Read More...
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T1 Aux Out for headphones or monitors?

Speedy
I have read through the reference material but am still uncertain of a couple of things, so just need confirmation please. In regard to the T1: If I was running the main output from the master to a secondary mixer, would I be able to use the AUX out for headphones, for the purpose of monitor in a live setting? Is the AUX out suitable for use for a S1 floor monitor? Thanks. Edit title: Previously "T1 questions" Bose Pro Community AdminRead More...
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T1 ToneMatch Audio Engine - different settings for L1 Compact or L1 Model II?

Hi folks Just a thought, when I arrive at a gig do I need to manually select in the T1 which system I am using, ie, do I need to select Compact or Model 2 in the settings or will it recognize automatically when I plug in? Just wondering as last week I set my Compact up in my dining room and set my own scenes and it was fabulous, this week on Wednesday I am doing a big venue and will be using the Model 2 and I haven't tried the new saved settings with that so I'm not sure whether I need to...Read More...
Hi Geoff, It's a good idea to create Scenes so you can always return the T1 to a known state after you've been making changes on the fly. The T1 doesn't do any automatic sensing with respect to what is connected to its outputs. STRead More...
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T8s to l1 model 2

just got my t8s. How can I connect t8s to L1 model ll?Read More...
Hi Shaime, XLR to Tip-Ring-Sleeve or Tip-Ring-Sleeve to Tip-Ring-Sleeve - either way is fine. I personally prefer Tip-Ring-Sleeve to Tip-Ring-Sleeve because then the cables are reversable <=> I don't have to think about which end goes to which device. Connect your iPad to two T8S channels (e.g. 7 and 8) or set the iPad to Mono and use a single output to one T8S channel. You can't assign the Aux inputs (9/10) to channels 1 through 8. They go straight through to the main output. Please...Read More...
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Guitar Center availability of T8S

I have all my BOSE gear under extended warranty with Guitar Center so I have someone local who can bail me out in a pinch when my equipment has issues before a gig. So, needless to say, I want to buy my 8 channel ToneMatch Mixer from them too. Guitar Center is already selling the S1. But for some reason they aren't selling the T8S, they don't know when they will and, when they try to special order it for me from Bose they are told there are currently unavailable. I've never had such a...Read More...
Hi StJoeMike, Here's a note from Mark-at-Bose Source: T8 availability at Guitar Center ST @Mark-at-BoseRead More...
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