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ToneMatch Updater

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The ToneMatch Updater application replaces the L1 Updater. Use it to update the firmware on your T1/T4S/T8S ToneMatch mixers. There's a new user interface and it works with Windows and macOS. You can see it in action in the video below. Get the application and firmware updates for the T4S/T8S here T4S/T8S Firmware Update Instructions What version do you have? On your ToneMatch mixer Turn the Rotary Selector to Prefs Turn the Menu selector to Versions Press Select Read the version number If...Read More...
@ST My T1 says the version is 1.8, so I guess I don't need to worry about an update.Read More...
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How are you using the Artistic Expression tools in your ToneMatch Mixer

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Let's talk about these tools in your ToneMatch Mixer . How are you using them? Mod Delay Reverb STRead More...
Hi Mahesh, Okay, this sounds good. I was checking to see if there was anything odd in your setup that might cause problems. No cause for concern here. Instead of Tape Delay and reverb, try this for your vocals microphone : Digital Delay Time: 100 ms Mix: 15% - vary up to 30% Fdbk: 0% - vary up to 10% You should have better intelligibility and move the vocals out in front of the backing tracks. What do you hear? Do you like it? STRead More...
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T4S/T8S ToneMatch Mixers Feature Requests

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Let's use this topic to capture our ideas for feature requests for the T4S/T8S ToneMatch Mixers. Tell us what you would like to see added, and why. We can't promise that Bose will acknowledge or act on every request, but you can be sure that they are following this discussion closely. STRead More...
Also the digital display is showing glitches when switching between settings and scenes. the words and settings jubbled some sort of software issue I'm assuming and an easy fix,Read More...
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T4S/T8S ToneMatch Mixers - Please update your firmware

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If you've just received your T4S/T8S Tonematch mixer please follow the instruction sheet in the box to update your firmware. We want you to enjoy the latest update and functionality of your new mixer. If you've misplaced those instructions see the link below. T4S / T8S firmware updates The latest firmware revision is v1.1.4 (November, 2018) If you're not sure what version you have see: What version is my firmware (T4S/T8S ToneMatch mixers) STRead More...
reverbs are better with the updates, but still a bit to go to be as good as the original tonematch, reverb still adds treble to the channel, Also the trim controls on the channel give signal even at 0 level, however the channels are Crystal clear, prue clarity,Read More...
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Bose T4S & T8S ToneMatch® Mixers

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Introducing new Bose ToneMatch® Mixers Unprecedented control, processing and portability Take control of your music with T8S and T4S ToneMatch mixers, compact 8 and 4 channel interfaces designed for performers. Engineered with powerful, DSP engines and intuitive user controls, they offer studio-quality EQ, dynamics and effects processing. Sound great with integrated Bose® ToneMatch processing and zEQ, especially when connected to a Bose L1 or F1 system for full end-to-end tonal control. Play...Read More...
Hi Troubador, We've started a new discussion for your questions. Please follow the link to I have a T1. Should I get a T4S or T8S? Thank you, Bose Pro Community AdminRead More...
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Tell us what instrument and microphones you use

In order to make sure we are delivering new ToneMatch presets that meet your needs we would love to gain additional insight into what instruments and microphones you currently use or plan to use with the L1(tm) system and T1 ToneMatch(tm) audio engine. I'm setting up this discussion as a way to capture this information. Please reply and let us know. I look forward to hearing from you. CraigRead More...
Hi Patrizia, We started a new discussion for your question. Bluetooth wireless earbuds to use as an ear monitor Please follow the link. Thank you, Bose Pro Community AdminRead More...
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Keyboard to T8S mixer

I have a keyboard with a TRS headphone output only. How should I go about properly connecting this keyboard to a T8S?Read More...
Hi Larry, Thanks for the added information. The Cocktail Party Effect is so named after our ability to pick out individual voices in a crowd in unamplified situations. Please follow this link for more information: Cocktail Party Effect To reproduce this effect on stage and for the audience, you need multiple loudspeakers (L1 systems, for example). If you have all the sound coming through one L1, you cannot produce the cocktail party effect. With two L1 systems and the T8S, you can get some...Read More...
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T8S Just Received_

First: I own a small Audio Visual company and own tons of Bose L1 and L1 Model II's. We love them and literally use them EVERYDAY for conferences and music. As a musician, I perform with a Model II. As I have done for many years with my awesome T4 mixer, I connected the T8S to my L1 2 system and for the first 20 minutes I was in heaven...then it died, on stage. So I connected an external power supply and connected the ANALOG input into my L2 base and was back up in minutes. I have since...Read More...
Thank you for the quick, thorough and professional response. I will indeed follow your advise. The seller has assured me that I can take several weeks to get to know this. I will update with my experiences.Read More...
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Built in tuner is unstable on my T8

Good Day! I went from 2 T1 mixers to one T8 for the possibility to use 8 XLR's. It works great, even though the effects work a bit different compared to the T1's. But, the built in tuner is very unstable and flickers all over the place, still centered around the actual pitch though. This is when I line my K&K equipped instruments. No hum or noise. Good sound and good signal, but still very hard to spot the pitch. What am I doing wrong? Thanks!Read More...
Hi Bifuel, We got talking about the K&K pickups here. Please try tuning using twelfth fret harmonics. This might pick up less resonance from the body of the guitar. Does that help? STRead More...
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USB B to PC

Setup is two ATR2100 mics into Channels 1 and 2 for recording audio. The default setting is for USB to PC is set to run through the Master. However I am unable to influence to output level except on the individual channels. Shouldn't the Master level control this output to PC?Read More...
Hi RyanP, I push up the input trims when I'm recording via USB to PC. Don't let them hit solid red on the LEDs. And yes, sometimes I have to raise input sensitivity and occasionally the level in the Digital Audio Workstation software too. STRead More...
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DV Mark Little Jazz into Tonematch

Greetings from a new member. I play an Epi Byrdland into a DV Mark Little Jazz amp and would like to run that into the Tonematch and Compact L1. Any suggestions?Read More...
Performance done at Lynagh's Irish Pub Lexington, Ky. Sunday 5:00 - 8:00. The set-up connections work very well as described. L1 Compact array was placed about 6' behind and between vocalists (keyboard and guitar) with mic stands about center line so the mics were turned outward away from direct projection of the speaker array. No feedback problems at all and the Bose easily handled the necessary volume. Having dedicated instrument amps run through T1 and L1 compact at lower levels than...Read More...
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T-1 help needed

This is a conversation from a Ketron forum. No-one offered suggestions, advice … If someone can help, I’ll pass it on (I’m J) and I want to get my T-1 on the job. K - Any Ketron users here use the Bose Tonematch (T1) , just interested in a few hints. Feel free to PM me J - I have had a T1 since they were introduced. I used it a couple times and went back to my old Edirol M-10DX. The T1 was too complicated - for me - to set up, and very difficult to adjust on the fly during a gig. I just...Read More...
Hi JerryT, For K in the conversation above, please invite K to join us here so we can help K directly. For you: Please tell us in detail about your inputs to the T1 and (microphones, instruments). And what powered loudspeaker are you using? You've written about an L1 Compact in the past. Is that what you're using? Thanks, STRead More...
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connection with Nord Piano 3 88

could you tell and explain me the best connection between my piano Nord Piano 3 88 and the ToneMatch (4S) Please? for the moment I connect directly to the 9/10 entries. is that correct? but I can just adjust the volume. nothing else. can I connect the Nord Piano to the Chanel to access to fonctions? thanks in advance JeffRead More...
Hi Jeff, Thank you for joining the Bose Portable PA Community. Welcome. Bose engineered the T8S ToneMatch mixer to have eight full-function channels and two Aux iliary inputs. The Aux inputs 9/10 are routed directly to the Main Output. You can use the Pan and Level adjustments accessible through the PAN/AUX menu. There are no changes to routing, or signal processing available. The Aux inputs are useful for sources that have their own volume and signal processing (e.g. EQ or effects). They...Read More...
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Tonematch Knob

Lost the Tonematch knob on my T1 Tonematch unit, and can’t find anywhere online to buy a replacementRead More...
Hi Ed McCarthy, Welcome to the Bose Portable PA Community. You can get replacement knobs for your T1 through Bose Support. Bose® Product & Technical Support at (877) 335-2673 (U.S. and Canada only) Monday-Friday: 9:00 AM - 9:00 PM ET Other regions STRead More...
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Routing on t4s?

Hi I have 2 Bose S1 pro and I would like to use them as my DJ booth speakers. Is there any way to route the booth signal from my DJM mixer to a T4S specific output (directly to my S1) independently from the master output? ThanksRead More...
Hi Luigi, Welcome to the Bose Portable PA Community. Yes, you can do this. Please ensure you have the latest firmware installed. T4S/T8S Firmware Update Instructions Then you will be able to route signals independently to the T4S Aux Outputs Click Image for more details. If you don't want to hear signal through the Master Outputs (Aux only), set the Tap Point to PRE and then mute the channel. However, it seems simpler to connect the DJM booth signal directly to the S1 Pro systems. Does that...Read More...
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Latest updates for T1 - list of guitars and mics

While setting up my T1 Tonematch, I noticed that the 2 - mics I use (Shure SM57 Beta and SM58 Beta) are available, but when setting my acoustic guitars, including: Composite Ox Raw Ele w/Baggs StagePro Element, Breedlove w/Fishman 4T, and Takamine EF341SC w/Tak CT4BII., none of these are available. The only available acoustic settings available on my T1 under "Acoustic Guitar", are several Guild, Taylor, and Martin models. I currently use "Steel String w/Piezo", but none of my model...Read More...
Hi DaveinTX, Please check out this article: ToneMatch Presets Downloads Please watch the video before installing Presets. STRead More...
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Gain Staging T4/8S

Hello all, I am working with a T8S and after reading the bose manual and watching numerous Youtube videos, I am a bit confused in regard to Gain Staging especially in regard to the trim. The set up is full band, 3 vocals, one sax mic, keys and acoustic guitar. The Bose manual states to turn the gain up until a green light is indicated. The videos I have watched indicate to increase the gain until clipping occurs then back it off a bit. Currently the band is in a basement, unfinished, lots of...Read More...
Thank you, ST! The last couple of times I've played with my current main band, our "weakest link", a perpetually stoned, tempo challenged conga player (whose main experience is banging away in 'drum circles' with the Grateful Dead on the box) who believes that Conga is a lead instrument that should be the main thing heard -- especially during verses -- has nearly caused me to quit. THANK YOU for that video, I've sent the link to every member of my band (ALL of our dynamics have been slipping...Read More...
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T8S: Tuner, Reverb, Trim, Aux

Tonematch T8s 1. A firmware update to fix Tuner, The tuner is as erratic in a live environment, its difficult to get and accurate reading, even when all channels are muted, 2 . A newer firmware update to fix the reverb, even with the latest update the reverb still needs tweaked, the latest update is a vast improvement however I still think the reverb needs to clearer, and less muddy, ( the original tonematch reverb is still 100% better) the difference between 20% and 25% on the settings to...Read More...
Hi rory conway, Try turning up the volume to maximum on the guitars when you are tuning them. Does the trim light light up when you hit the string for tuning? If not, the level is to low. You can perform a T8S Factory Reset (this affects everything except the updates to firmware) Bose doesn't comment on changes that may or may not be in development. You're welcome. STRead More...
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Latest updates

I have an L1 Compact, with the T1 mixer, both bought used. In Prefs, I show: DSP Firmware: 1.8 Bose Presets: 1.1 Bose Scenes 1.0. Are these the latest versions? I have a USB cord between my MacBook Pro and the T1. I click on the T1 Simulator, a black screen pops up and nothing shows up. My Mac has USB3.0. I don't know what the T1 is, or the cable. How long should I have to wait to see something on the T1 simulator? I like all the Bose info online, but there seems to be maybe too much for me...Read More...
Hi ScubaBadger, Here's an article (one of likely thousands written on the subject). Jobs: Why Apple Banned Flash from the iPhoneRead More...
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Preferred cable type: T8 to L1 base unit

hello all, What would be the preferred cable (s) to use from the T8S to one or two L1 base units? Thank you!Read More...
Ok I’m reminded of the old light beer commercial that has someone saying it tastes great but the other says it’s less filling. Darn, now I’m getting thirsty! 🍺 Whatever cable works best for your situation go for it. As I mentioned, both TRS or XLR will work fine. For my equipment situation, which is XLR biased, XLRs work best for me. I only use a TRS cable for input into the L1. I also don’t use Bose mixers. Nothing against them by any means, I just use something else. So everyone’s mileage...Read More...
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Recording with Zoom H4n Pro

Hello to All, Mike here from Baton Rouge, LA new to the forum...purchased L1 model II with B2 bass module and T8S mixer...love the system and have already used it in many gigs with our duo "Beside Ourselves". We have had many positive comments on the sound quality! Tommy and I want to start recording our practice sessions and live performances and need some help with how to connect the Zoom H4n Pro to the T8S mixer and how to configure the mixer. Any suggestions and guidance is much...Read More...
Hi ScubaBadger, The Main Left/Right levels (currently showing zero) are tied to the Master Volume (also zero in your picture). STRead More...
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Ideal T1 Tonematch Settings for Female Vocalist

Hi Everyone...We're fairly new users to the Bose Systems...we have the L1 Model ii Systems with the T1 Tonematch. My wife is a single performer artist (song writer/singer/guitarist). For our home recording Studio, we're using a Zoom 5N Stereo Recording Unit with 4 inputs. We're plugging into the T1 directly with a high end AKG mic and Fender Strat iis being picked up with the on-board Sterio mics on the 5N..from the Fender Twin Reverb Amp. The Zoom 5N is quite a good unit for a Home studio...Read More...
Hi George, Here is a video to show you how to set the T1® ToneMatch Presets, zEQ, and ParaEQ. You may not hear the differences in sound that I'm discussing in the video, but follow along on your T1® and you'll be able to hear them in your environment. STRead More...
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Reverb Medium

I listened to T4 Tonematch recenly: the model wa at Long Mc Quade Montreal. I read that ther is an update for the medium reverb on your website. Is this update part of the newly released T4 ? What I heard was not a good reverb, It souded more like an echo, predelay is way too long. ThanksRead More...
Hello, I am a ''schooled'' guitar player and I decided to take singing lessons and practice seriously. I have a real pro coach at the moment for singing. The style of music ranges from Humperdink, Sinatra, Sacha Distel and also French singers Cabrel, Aznavour. I equally like 70-80 songs and use primeraly MP3 back tracks. I also found that the S1 is very efficient with a Nylon String Guitar; I have a Takamine Michi which sound very good in this system.Read More...
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Have a T1. Should I get a T4S or T8S?

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I've been trying to read up on the T4/T8 mixers as I'm considering buying one or the other. (Also considering buying a second S1 because ... well because they're so easy to use .) I currently have a T1 (plus an external power supply) which was bought with my L1/M2. It works really well with the S1 as well - except I need power to run the T1, so I can't use it when busking (using the S1 on battery power). As a solo singer/guitarist there are enough inputs on the T1 for my needs. More channels...Read More...
@ST As always, you've given me clarity on the points I raised and also things to think about. Thank you. I was actually considering selling the T1 after getting a T4/T8 ... now you've made me think about that too! @Chet What a super explanation. Thank you so much for taking so much time to help out. That is very kind of you. (I should add that I had hum problems on the 1002B both while using it on AC power and on batteries. Even took it to the dealer who replaced it once.) I will eventually...Read More...
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AUX same as Monitor....nah...

I'm answering my own question here..but I hope there is a work around. I want to hear my monitor mix (with EQ) through the AUX output. I don't believe it is possible but hoping someone can provide a work around.Read More...
Hi ScubaBadger, If you're talking about being unable to route the T4S/T8S Aux channels to Aux outputs - yes, that's true however: On the T1 You can send what's coming out of the ethercon port to the analog Master Output. On the T4S You can send what's coming out of the ethercon ports to the analog Main Outputs. On the T8S You have two pairs of analog Main Outputs. STRead More...
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Sending T4s channels separately out to external recorder...

Howdy. I'm wanting to run separate channels out from my T4S into my Tascam DPS24 recorder (to mix levels/master etc on the tascam). Specifically, in this instance, I have guitar going into channel 1 of the T4S and vocals going into channel 2 of the T4S. I can get both guitar & vocals to the recorder in one signal (via the T4s mono out into the tascam), but for some reason I'm not seeing how I can send the channel 1 signal (guitar) out to let's say a channel 1 in my recorder and at the...Read More...
Hi Justin Jay, Thanks for coming back to tell us you got things working. Please tell us about your music. Thanks, STRead More...
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Best Tonematch setting for Fender Acoustasonic Telecaster?

I am now the proud owner of a Fender Acoustasonic Telecaster. It's an incredible instrument. But it has me a bit bewildered on the best setting under Tonematch for the instrument. I am routing the signal through an Cerberus integrated effects pedal which includes a "cab" emulator that I can toggle on and off. Any ideas? Suggestions?Read More...
I too am a new owner of the Fender Acoustisonic Telecaster....and as much as I don't like how it looks really, I love what this guitar does, is, and how it responds. It really is that amazing and I'm pretty hard to impress to that degree just right out of the box. That said, I tried it first sight unseen using the same Taylor T5 preset that I use with my actual Taylor T5 through my T1 Tonematch Engine. Amazingly it gave me a very nice sound without tweaking much of anything. As ST suggested,...Read More...
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T4s mounting bracket for the L1

Does anyone know the status of the bracket to mount the T4s to the “L1 tower. I was under the impression it came with the unit and I see now that it does not, however I also do not see it as an accessory that can be ordered. thanks for any information in regard to thisRead More...
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RE: Does Tone match make a big difference and how to mix

Hi everyone first post. I own an S1 pro a F1 head and an L1 M2 system which is my main rig. I use a Mackey Profx mixer and hope to get a tone match system. Just a couple quick question how much of a difference does having a tone match make? Also I know NOTHING about mixing and generally just fiddle around half of the first set. Anyone have any advice in regards to mixing for acoustic guitar and vocals? I know its a loaded question but was hoping for a ball park idea cause I literally half...Read More...
Hi Alexwyoungmusic To your question below, I have a few thoughts (Mixing on T1 for Vocal / Acoustic Guitar)... "Anyone have any advice in regards to mixing for acoustic guitar and vocals? I know its a loaded question but was hoping for a ball park idea cause I literally half the time just get frustrated and put everything in the middle." My Thoughts (Ball Park Ideas) on using your new T1 Mixer... You might consider starting with the singer songwriter preset scene on the T1 Mixer, it has a...Read More...
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Settings for Mandolin

Does anyone in the forum have specific ToneMatch settings or general recommendations for a mandolin with an internal passive pickup? For reference mine is an Eastman MD 615 with a K&K pickup.Read More...
This is probably a comment for the enhancement wish list but I was hoping that when Bose came out with the T4/8, they would have added enough memory to the unit to allow pretty much unlimited storage of both presets and scenes. Certainly the cost of storage isn't a problem and the programming involved would be minimal (IMO after 30 + years as a software engineer). Perhaps in future iterations they'll include this functionality.Read More...
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