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ToneMatch Updater

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The ToneMatch Updater application replaces the L1 Updater. Use it to update the firmware on your T1/T4S/T8S ToneMatch mixers. There's a new user interface and it works with Windows and macOS. You can see it in action in the video below. Get the application and firmware updates for the T4S/T8S here T4S/T8S Firmware Update Instructions What version do you have? On your ToneMatch mixer Turn the Rotary Selector to Prefs Turn the Menu selector to Versions Press Select Read the version number If...Read More...
@ST My T1 says the version is 1.8, so I guess I don't need to worry about an update.Read More...
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How are you using the Artistic Expression tools in your ToneMatch Mixer

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Let's talk about these tools in your ToneMatch Mixer . How are you using them? Mod Delay Reverb STRead More...
Hi Mahesh, Okay, this sounds good. I was checking to see if there was anything odd in your setup that might cause problems. No cause for concern here. Instead of Tape Delay and reverb, try this for your vocals microphone : Digital Delay Time: 100 ms Mix: 15% - vary up to 30% Fdbk: 0% - vary up to 10% You should have better intelligibility and move the vocals out in front of the backing tracks. What do you hear? Do you like it? STRead More...
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T4S/T8S ToneMatch Mixers Feature Requests

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Let's use this topic to capture our ideas for feature requests for the T4S/T8S ToneMatch Mixers. Tell us what you would like to see added, and why. We can't promise that Bose will acknowledge or act on every request, but you can be sure that they are following this discussion closely. STRead More...
Agree fully , although it is nice to have a "room" EQ availible , the bands should be wider and more flexible ,especially on the low end . peace :-)Read More...
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T4S/T8S ToneMatch Mixers - Please update your firmware

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If you've just received your T4S/T8S Tonematch mixer please follow the instruction sheet in the box to update your firmware. We want you to enjoy the latest update and functionality of your new mixer. If you've misplaced those instructions see the link below. T4S / T8S firmware updates The latest firmware revision is v1.1.4 (November, 2018) If you're not sure what version you have see: What version is my firmware (T4S/T8S ToneMatch mixers) STRead More...
reverbs are better with the updates, but still a bit to go to be as good as the original tonematch, reverb still adds treble to the channel, Also the trim controls on the channel give signal even at 0 level, however the channels are Crystal clear, prue clarity,Read More...
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Bose T4S & T8S ToneMatch® Mixers

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Introducing new Bose ToneMatch® Mixers Unprecedented control, processing and portability Take control of your music with T8S and T4S ToneMatch mixers, compact 8 and 4 channel interfaces designed for performers. Engineered with powerful, DSP engines and intuitive user controls, they offer studio-quality EQ, dynamics and effects processing. Sound great with integrated Bose® ToneMatch processing and zEQ, especially when connected to a Bose L1 or F1 system for full end-to-end tonal control. Play...Read More...
Roberto, please see this new discussion for your question. T8S 1/4 inch or XLR Outputs Thank you.Read More...
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Tell us what instrument and microphones you use

In order to make sure we are delivering new ToneMatch presets that meet your needs we would love to gain additional insight into what instruments and microphones you currently use or plan to use with the L1(tm) system and T1 ToneMatch(tm) audio engine. I'm setting up this discussion as a way to capture this information. Please reply and let us know. I look forward to hearing from you. CraigRead More...
Hello Cleverson, We have started a new discussion for your question. Please follow the link. Switch ToneMatch Presets during a presentation Thank you. Bose Pro Community AdminRead More...
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T8S Analog vs Digital Connection to L1 Model 1S and Model II

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Some people have expressed concern because the T8S ToneMatch mixer does not have ToneMatch (digital) connections to L1 Model 1S and L1 Model II. I've taken the time to test this carefully. To my ears, there is no audible difference between the digital and the analog connections. The background and some notes about how I tested follow below. The best way I know to detect differences in sound is to do an A/B switch back and forth instantly. Even a few seconds between listening events can lead...Read More...
.Hi Freshwuzhere, Welcome to the Bose Portable PA Community. FOR Firmware UPDATES ONLY (T8S to L1 Model II Power Stand) You can use a ToneMatch cable (or ethernet Cat-5 or Cat-6) to connect to a L1 Model II or L1 Model 1S Power Stand. Do NOT do this at a gig. It may pass audio for awhile, but the connection for audio is not stable and will cut out. This digital connection is fine in the unlikely event you need to check or update the firmware on your L1 Model II or L1 Model 1S power stand.Read More...
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noise floor

I have a T8s with the following problem: footage attached shows T8s with strong noise floor output when no input is present. The hiss only appears when pan is full left, when full right there's no sound. What should I do in order to fix this? I've just updated the T8s with latest firmware, non result. I have also discovered another T4s unit has the same issue, but when I pan right I have this noise and with pan left there's nothing.Read More...
Hi FGe, Thanks for the added information. I've been able to replicate the noise you hear in the video, but I don't think this is a flaw with the T8S, T4S, or the L1. Let me explain. In live sound systems (and recording systems), one of the primary considerations is the signal to noise ratio. That is: what we want to hear compared to we don't want to hear. Every system has some self-noise, but for practical purposes we deem that noise to be tolerable if it doesn't intrude on our ability to...Read More...
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Remote Trigger Scene Change on ToneMatch Mixer

Nitramor
Is the ToneMatch mixer capable of receiving an external input to change the scene remotely? I do a "One-Guitar Show" -- a two-act, one-person musical (www.MissRainsong.com) and I am building an Arduino computer inside my guitar so I can run the lighting and audio cues from the stage. I would like to be able to program scenes into the ToneMatch (which I know I can save as scenes) and be able to trigger changing from one scene to the next scene through a signal I send out via DMX or any other...Read More...

Route an input only to phones

Hi Folks, I have a T8s and recently ran into a situation where I needed to send 6 channels to MAIN and phones, and 2 channels (click track) only to phones (i.e. they should not be heard on MAIN/FOH). I couldn't easily find a way to do this. Would anyone know if this is possible? If this is not supported, I'm guessing the only other option would be to send all channels to AUX out and mute the two click track channels on MAIN. Then connect the AUX out to a separate headphone amp. Would...Read More...

Guitar Presets in T8S

Hi just wondering ....is there a way of creating ones own Electric guitar presets in the T8S ? So when using different guitars with different pickups etc you are not always required to do a drastic EQ tweak and can simply recall a preset suitable to that guitar thanks in advance JeromeRead More...
Hi ST thank you ,it’s all good i do save my scenes - I wish there was more space / option to save more that’s a shame re presets for guitar as there are quite a few options from Bose ; so it’s a pity you can’t save your own from another post about a month ago I’ve had success doing a factory reset as you suggested this was due to the T8S showing a blank screen on start up - semi often ;thankfully i was able to save and recall my previous scenes the unit has worked flawlessly since 👌 thanks...Read More...
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Use channels 3&4 for music input?

Hi As the T4S came out with a missing volume control knob for the music input channels 5/6, is there any known reason why I can't use microphone channels 3&4 for music input. I have tried once, but the music sounded muffled and a little mute so had to revert to normal inputs. If I can use channels 3&4 for music input I would not only have control over general volume - I would have individual left and right control, or twin mono feed to 2 x L1 units in different rooms to flex volume...Read More...
Hi Doug, I'm glad you're still around. You're definitely okay with Windows 10. I can't promise things will work with Vista, but there's no harm in trying. You need active (powered) loudspeakers to work with the T1. If you're used to the T1, getting something else is going to feel more complicated. Cheers Doug! STRead More...
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RE: Does Tone match make a big difference and how to mix

Hi everyone first post. I own an S1 pro a F1 head and an L1 M2 system which is my main rig. I use a Mackey Profx mixer and hope to get a tone match system. Just a couple quick question how much of a difference does having a tone match make? Also I know NOTHING about mixing and generally just fiddle around half of the first set. Anyone have any advice in regards to mixing for acoustic guitar and vocals? I know its a loaded question but was hoping for a ball park idea cause I literally half...Read More...
The main thing about mixing is keep it simple. I've been doing it for my bands, festivals and in the recording studio since 1968 and make fewer "moves and tweaks" every year. :-) The most important things to remember are "signal path", use the minimum of "moves" and subtractive EQ is better than additive (for instance roll off the bass rather than crank up the highs and mids then turn up the mains a tad! Signal path: something's not making noise in the speakers, start at the source:...Read More...
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T4S & T8S Mixers - 1/4 inch (6mm) Mounting Screw (Mounting Options)

Glad the mixers have been updated, but a couple of questions on them. Why a camera tripod mount? That seems odd to me. Can the T4S not mount to a mic stand? This also seems like they won't be able to mount on the L1s either. Also, I get that the L1 MII won't output enough power from the stand, but it should be able to connect digitally to them. Again, to me these all seem like odd exclusions/decisions. Hopefully one of the Bose folks will chime in with some answers.Read More...
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L1 Model II with new T8S

I've been one of those who wants more channels and it will be here soon in the T8S. I've read most of the post's for the 8 and was wondering is the fact there are more channels on the 8 the only new "stuff"? For example, how about more presets, i.e., I am an Korg PA4X Arranger player. One of the presets on the T1 was DJ, also no presets for the Heil microphones. Just wondering if any thought was given to more presets during the creation of the T8S? Edit title: Previously "L1 Model 11 with...Read More...
ST. Different subject dealing with the T8. Way back when the T1 was the rage, some of us were wondering what the best settings would be for our mics. All of us were seeking that all elusive silky vocals sound only found in studios. One gentleman sent these setting for the Shure SM 58 that seem to work for those using that mic. zEQ = Low 2.2 Mid 2.4 High 0 Para EQ = Level -5.4 Freq 4050hz Width 1.0 octave. All set on Bypass No Compression or Modulation Delay = Analog Mix 15% Time 275ms...Read More...
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T4S to S1 Pro

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We have a new article in the Bose Portable PA Wiki. T4S ToneMatch Mixer to S1 Pro Check it out. STRead More...
Hi Yodameater Worth checking out what polar pattern you have on your mic especially if you are running two speakers to the sides of you. With a single L1 behind you, you can use your body/head to great effect in cutting out direct radiation. With two speakers to your sides clearly you can't so you have to rely on tech. A tight polar pattern concentrating on the small area facing you from the mic is preferable. If you have a wide collection pattern you will pick up your own sound from the...Read More...
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problems with T1 sticky buttons

I have a T1 that works beautifully, however when I opened it for use this evening the three "editing control" buttons and the "Phantom Power" button all feel very mushy, and the rubber sticks to my fingers. All other buttons seem to be fine. When I pushed one of the buttons to make a selection, it actually left my fingerprint in the top. I am afraid to touch or do anything more. Please let me know how i can fix them, or if they can be replaced and how I get new buttons. Is this an ongoing...Read More...
Had a same problem and took the advice from this forum (just searched sticky buttons): Pull out sticky buttons (only "Editing Controls" not phantom power) from the mixer, take isopropyl alcohol wipe/swab and rub it until you get off the sticky layer. You will end up with nice smooth hard plastic layer. You would need to disassemble ToneMatch to get to "Phantom power switch". Enjoy.Read More...
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T4S reverb

why can’t Aux 2 have reverb? My duo uses aux 1 and 2 as personal monitors. No reverb to aux 2?! LRead More...
Hi yodameater, You're right; there's no reverb on the T4S Aux 2 output. Here's an article that explains why, and a workaround. T4S No Reverb on Aux 2 Does that help? STRead More...
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T4S Comp/Gate - can I pick more than one per channel?

So, I'm playing with the new T4 and I'd like to have a better understanding of how things work than I did with my T1. I read the wiki for the mixer and have watched videos, but there are things that still aren't clear to me. Perhaps starting this Basic Questions thread will prompt others to ask questions that will help all of us. I've got a feeling that I (and probably many others) don't use half of the tools available on this mixer. I'd like to learn more, and make the best use of this...Read More...
The majority of pre packaged effects allow for only one choice reverb or chorus, chorus or trem... .... ... I like to mix and match s...o I might choose a very specific reverb run in parallel with a trem. then in series with a delay . The pre pkg effects allow for the most general usage, and most often used. You may have multiple choices but you can usually only select one. Say delay, you may have the choice of slap, (the slap may have a bit of compression already mixed in depending on the...Read More...
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T4 Just Arrived!

WOOHOO! My new T4S just arrived! I just finished posting about battery power for the T4 and my doorbell rang with the delivery. I'll be spending my afternoon updating the firmware and doing some initial testing with my S1 Pros. I think this combination will make an OUTSTANDING portable, small venue PA system. I'll post updates once I've had a chance to play with this set up and have done a gig or 2.Read More...
Hi KingBiscuit, That's a standard cable for connecting lots of devices to computers (e.g., printers, scanners, USB audio interfaces). That's a USB A to USB B cable. Yes, you can use a T1 Scene in your T4S. You may want to tweek reverb settings. See: T8S/T4S Reverb for more information. Have fun this afternoon. STRead More...
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Digital Noise/Feedback Loud and BAD!!!

Hello Everyone...looking for some help here. I have been trouble shooting this issue since I bought my T8S. I have a pretty complicated setup so I have been hesitant to post the issue but last night I think I finally isolated the issue to the ToneMatch Mixer. I use the TC Helicon Voice Live 3 in my setup. Input to the TC Helicon is my 1/4 inch cable from my Acoustic Guitar and Midi In. I use a dual Mono Output via 2 -XLR cables going into the mixer one line is Vocals and the other is Guitar.Read More...
My wife don't half come out with 'em at times. I'm sat here and said to my wife, "Poor bloke (Moon Dog) he's got an unwanted noise problem on his setup that he's been trying to resolve for some weeks! Every thing is fine until he plugs in the last microphone" she said, "Has he tried shooting the singer?" Any more jokes like that, don't worry, I'll shoot her myself LOL.Read More...
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Linking T8s to an analogue mixer

I’m a travelling tribute artiste and have a number of gigs at holiday parks this summer. Some of these parks have their own FoH and ideally I’d plug the T8s straight in to this. As this is not always possible, is there a way of going out from the T8s in to whichever mixer they are using (usually analogue). I bring my own monitoring and like to at least have control over my own aux out from the stage, even if I can’t do much about the FoH. TIARead More...
Heheheh, I see what you did there JeffRead More...
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Main outs on T8s

Got a T8S TM to use with (2) L1's for an upcoming event. Is there a signal or tone difference Running XLR / 1/4" TRS cables from the T8S Main outs to the 2 L1's Analog inputs OR with using the 1/4” Mono outs with TRS 1/4” cables? Thanks!Read More...
Hi BigIsland, Great question! The ToneMatch Port on the L1 power stands is engineered to work with a T4S ToneMatch mixer and its predecessor, the T1 ToneMatch audio engine. T4S <---> L1 power stand T1 <---> L1 power stand You can't use it to connect two L1 power stands or two ToneMatch mixers. On the T8S, the ToneMatch port is used for the ToneMatch Power Supply (supplied with the T8S). STRead More...
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T4s has to be rebooted on initial startup

It's not a big deal, but when I power FIRST power on my unit, it just gets stuck on the loading page. I just flick/power cycle the the switch on the back of the mixer and it then powers up and loads fine.Read More...
Hi jaswrx, If you're already running the latest firmware and you're still having this problem, then try a T8S/T4S ToneMatch Mixer Reset If that doesn't solve the problem, please call Bose Support, Bose® Product & Technical Support at (877) 335-2673 (U.S. and Canada only) Monday-Friday: 9:00 AM - 9:00 PM ET Other regions STRead More...
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record my live performance and use it on my protools

Hi, i would like to be able to record my live performance and use it on my protools. Is it possible to add a mixer that have an sd card with the t4 or t8?Read More...
Hi Kempashi, You can connect your T8S or T4S directly to a PC or Mac computer via USB. That connection can carry two channels (left and right) that can be directed to digital audio workstation. I have used Audacity, and I expect you can use ProTools the same way. T8S USB to PC Use a cable like this. If you want to record the live mix in stereo, this might be all you need. STRead More...
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T4S & T8S USB A Playback

I have some queries on the T4S/T8S: Is it possible to shuffle/repeat the tracks from a pen drive on T4S, if so how should it be done? Is there a track count limit that can be played from the pen drive? Customer says he has about 100 songs and after a couple of songs, playback either stops or it skips tracks. Please do let me know what could be done to resolve this issue. I am not finding any details from the user manuals. Edit Subject: Previously "T4S & T8S " Bose Pro Community AdminRead More...
Kempashi, Please see this new topic for your question. Record my live performance and use it on my protools Thank you.Read More...
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Need ToneMatch 2.0 download file for L1 Classic

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Hello all, I have obtained an Li Classic that is sending full spectrum audio to the B1 Bass Module. During troubleshooting (I am a repair technician by trade) I noticed the output terminals for the bass module had the proper equalized bass output signal, but when I connected the bass module the signal went back to full spectrum. All other functions are working. I use only the CH-3 & CH-4 inputs connected to an iPod. I'm hoping the software or firmware has become corrupt causing the DSP...Read More...
Hi Fin (Fabrizio), Please see my reply to you here: L1 classic half work Thank you.Read More...
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Can I connect backtrack via a mini cable to two ¼” to two different channels

I know that if i connect an iPad or iPhone to a T1 ToneMatch ® Audio Engine or T4S ToneMatch mixer channels 1, 2, 3 (or T8S ToneMatch mixer channels 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8) using a cable like this i will hear only the LEFT side of the stereo signal. To hear both LEFT and RIGHT sides of the stereo signal, i must change the signal to MONO. My question is: Can I not use a cable like this and connect to let say channel 2 and 3 to hear LEFT and RIGHT?? Thanks, HubRead More...
You could alternatively switch the iPad audio output to mono and use a single cable.Read More...
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