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T4S/T8S ToneMatch Mixers Feature Requests

ST
Let's use this topic to capture our ideas for feature requests for the T4S/T8S ToneMatch Mixers. Tell us what you would like to see added, and why. We can't promise that Bose will acknowledge or act on every request, but you can be sure that they are following this discussion closely. STRead More...
Just got the T8S. Here are two thoughts from me... 1. The ability to combine channel 9/10 volume control. I have it panned hard L/R, and have to adjust both knobs if there is a volume difference between songs. 2. Global Master Output EQ. Lowest point is 125hz? That is much to high for a full range system. I think there should be a 50hz band added, or at least widen what is currently there to start at 50hz.Read More...
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T4S/T8S ToneMatch Mixers - Please update your firmware

ST
If you've just received your T4S/T8S Tonematch mixer please follow the instruction sheet in the box to update your firmware. We want you to enjoy the latest update and functionality of your new mixer. If you've misplaced those instructions see the link below. T4S / T8S firmware updates The latest firmware revision is v1.0.10 (April 26, 2018) If you're not sure what version you have see: What version is my firmware (T4S/T8S ToneMatch mixers) STRead More...
Hi trav12, I'm sorry you are having a problem with updating the firmware in your T8S. Let's double check something. Please turn the power off and back on, on your T8S. Then: Turn the Rotary Selector to Prefs Scroll through the menu to Versions Press the menu button. What version does it say? If it is still 1.0.1 - please try again with a different USB cable connected directly to the computer and the T8S (not through a hub). STRead More...
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Bose T4S & T8S ToneMatch® Mixers

ST
Introducing new Bose ToneMatch® Mixers Unprecedented control, processing and portability Take control of your music with T8S and T4S ToneMatch mixers, compact 8 and 4 channel interfaces designed for performers. Engineered with powerful, DSP engines and intuitive user controls, they offer studio-quality EQ, dynamics and effects processing. Sound great with integrated Bose® ToneMatch processing and zEQ, especially when connected to a Bose L1 or F1 system for full end-to-end tonal control. Play...Read More...
Hi Mark, Thank you for joining the Bose Portable PA Community. I'm sorry you're seeing a corrupted display on your T8S. To refresh the screen: Turn the rotary selector to a different position, and then turn it back to where you were. This should force the screen to refresh. You shouldn't have to reboot. Please let us know if you notice a pattern to when the screen does this. Thanks, STRead More...
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Tell us what instrument and microphones you use

In order to make sure we are delivering new ToneMatch presets that meet your needs we would love to gain additional insight into what instruments and microphones you currently use or plan to use with the L1(tm) system and T1 ToneMatch(tm) audio engine. I'm setting up this discussion as a way to capture this information. Please reply and let us know. I look forward to hearing from you. CraigRead More...
If it is in the budget I would try a Shure KSM9.Read More...
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Input/Output Impedance on T1

Hi, Could anyone clarify what are the input impedances on channels 1-3. and 3/4? Does the input impedance varies according to the type of connector I use? If I use a XLR cable (usually for a with a microphone), is the input impedance lower than if I connect a 1/4 pin? Or the input impedance is always the same, regardless of the cable used? Also, what is the output impedance? Thanks in advance! SamuelRead More...
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Remote Connection with Tone Match Mixers

Hi there I recently purchased the Bose L1 model 2 with the Tone Match 1 4 channel mixer . I`ve had to also use a QSC touchmix mixer for additional channels . I`m thinking of upgrading to the new TS8 mixer to simplify things but wanted to know - will there be an app to help control things remotely with the new tone match mixers ? its a feature I find very useful thanks ! :-) Jerome PS - i`m very happy with the sound of the Bose BTW :-)Read More...
Thanks , thats a shameRead More...
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T4S cover

Love the T4S mixer and Bose sound, but this latest iteration of T mixer has warts introduced that make life more complicated rather than improving situations. The T1 had a cover that protected the operating controls while in transit and while on stage if desired to protect from fiddlers and tweakers. The T4S cover is ok for transit but can no longer be used on stage to protect settings as it now goes down the back and covers ports - which can’t be done with cables plugged in. A minus point...Read More...

T4S Channels 5/6 volume control

Am I right in thinking rapid access to volume control on channels 5/6 is buried under: Master rotary set to Pan/Aux>Menu>Aux In>5 LVL & 6LVL ? If that is true - on a live stage monitoring mic volumes, effects and then overall volume changes of individual tracks coming in off an iPad / Tablet or mobile is going to be a nightmare I hadn't anticipated. The ability to "PAN" channels left and right, I understand. Two separate volume controls for a stereo signal in is in my view...Read More...
I guess for best control I could buy a small mixer to run the iPad into and come out of that into the T4S aux ins... but that’s so damned annoying when an overall pot as per T1 was a no-brainer - which I’m struggling to understand was either overlooked or configured by people who don’t use the kit on a daily basis.Read More...
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Reverb and effects on T4S

I hate my T1 with the “All channels” reverb setting meaning I can’t have different settings on different mics. I note the sales specs on the T4S state “Independent ToneMatch, EQ, dynamics and effects per channel” The very next statement was “Dedicated reverb on Aux 1 send, and a global shared reverb for use across all channels”. Does this mean what it says, no deviation from the T1 and I can’t set “Large” for mic 1 and “Cavern” for mic 2? If that is the case then “Global reverb” type is not...Read More...
Hi ScubaBadger, On the page you noted , in the bullet point above the text you quoted you will find the following Question and Answer. I have highlighted in blue, the relevant description of how Reverb works in the T4S/T8S mixers. Does the T4S/T8S ToneMatch mixer have built-in effects? What are some of the features and applications where they may be used? Yes. Below is a list of effects that users may independently assign/adjust for any or all channels. The user also enjoys discrete control...Read More...
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T4S & T8S Mixers - 1/4 inch (6mm) Mounting Screw (Mounting Options)

Glad the mixers have been updated, but a couple of questions on them. Why a camera tripod mount? That seems odd to me. Can the T4S not mount to a mic stand? This also seems like they won't be able to mount on the L1s either. Also, I get that the L1 MII won't output enough power from the stand, but it should be able to connect digitally to them. Again, to me these all seem like odd exclusions/decisions. Hopefully one of the Bose folks will chime in with some answers.Read More...
Hi ST "Bose responded to the customer input about the old mounting system and chose to replace it." They could easily have included the little hole that fits the T1 bracket - AS WELL as the new screw... but alas... Thanks for reasoning on their behalf though... :-)Read More...
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No FX coming from Aux out.

Trying to troubleshoot why I'm not getting any FX while using the aux out on my newer T1 Tone Match mixer. I have changed the TAP setting on each channel to all the options (before pre, pre and post) and I get no FX. I'm running behringer headphone preamp to in ear monitors. My connection is 1/4" TRS to xlr into the headphone amp and then my ears. Any ideas why I'm just getting a dry signal with no FX?Read More...
Hi PaulWestMusic, Thank you for joining the Bose Portable PA Community. There's no reverb on the Aux output. Presets, ZEQ, ParaEQ and other effercts are all there. Please see this article: T1 ToneMatch® Audio Engine Aux Output --∈∞ΘΞ Please click the picture for more details ΞΘ∞∋-- STRead More...
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Karaoke system

i just purchase a L1 Model 2 with B2 bass and the T4S Mixer. how would i plug my karaoke machine to the T4S which have rca outputRead More...
Hi Tom, Yes, you can use Channels 1, 2, 3, or 4 for the Karaoke machine. You can use a cable like this. or adapters like this if you already have an RCA cable. You can also use Channels 5/6 if you don't need to process the sound with Presets, EQ, or effects. You'll probably want to control the volume using the Karaoke machine. Here is a Comparison of the T4S/T8S to the T1® . STRead More...
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T4S or T1® for home Karaoke with L1® Model 1S and B1

Hi, I am new to the community and looking to set up a home karaoke system using Bose L1 1S with B1 and T1 tonematch. I wonder what is the major difference between T1 and T4S ?Read More...
how you connect the karaoke machine to the bose t4s? is the t1 better for karaoke?Read More...
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T8S - hookup laptop to channel 9/10

Hello, just unboxed my T8 ...couple of questions. To hookup my laptop into this, do I use jacks 9&10? How do I hook up other laptiops to this mixer ? (i.e. 3 or 4 laptops) Edit title: Previously "T8", moved discussion to ToneMatch Mixers forum. Bose Pro Community Admin @NewguyRead More...
Hello St.... thanks for taking the time to assist me. To lay it all out, I am using a L1 M2 with tone match. I recently purchased the T8 hoping that it would remove some issues. Here is one scenario T4 Tonematch This is (was) a typical setup with my L1 M2 with T4 tone match 1) primary laptop (music) on first input 2) second laptop plugged is as backup for first and or used from time to time for music videos to a searate projector 3) wired microphone plugged into 3 4) cordless mic plugged...Read More...
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T8S As a mixer for non Bose speakers?

Hello Everyone! So I've been borrowing a T1/L1 for a few months now and I'm really liking how easy it is to use and all of the built in effects. I will eventually have to return his Bose system meaning I'll be going back to my pair of EV ZLX115P speakers. The speakers sound great, but i'm using them with either a passive 12 channel soundcraft mixer, or a 4 channel Yamaha mixer (depending on how many inputs I need). I was thinking perhaps I could sell both of these mixers and pickup the T8S...Read More...
Ah I ended up returning it. Didn't really make sense to run one without Bose speakers, since all the presents are designed for that. That said, I plan to pickuo a system after my friend takes his back. So eventually the 8S will be back in my life, but for now I'm using a 12 channel Soundcraft board. Thanks for all the help!Read More...
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T8S Reverb doesnt sound as good as on T1 at all

Daniel Blohm
Hi. Since i really love my T1 mixer and I really needed more channels, I "uppgraded" to T8S, and have now tested it booth live and compared it side by side to the T1. Here are my thoughts and questions: The sound without effects is very close, but I do feel that I can hear some small differences in the preamps. Little more defined in the highs and lows compared to the T1. But they do sound very similar. I tried to copy all the settings from my T1 that always sounded great in every...Read More...
Hi Daniel, I've found out a little more - and made corrections to my posts above. First - the Reverb engine in the T4S/T8S is new and improved from the T1®. As a result, there is no direct mapping from the T1® settings to the T4S/T8S. Here is how the percentages are applied to each type of reverb. Time is percentage of Time Range for each Type Type Time Range Plate 0 – 4.6 s Small 0 – 0.8 s Medium 0 – 1.9 s Large 0 – 3.5 s Cavern 0 – 7.0 s So your Medium 1.7 seconds on the T1® becomes Medium...Read More...
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L1 Model II with new T8S

I've been one of those who wants more channels and it will be here soon in the T8S. I've read most of the post's for the 8 and was wondering is the fact there are more channels on the 8 the only new "stuff"? For example, how about more presets, i.e., I am an Korg PA4X Arranger player. One of the presets on the T1 was DJ, also no presets for the Heil microphones. Just wondering if any thought was given to more presets during the creation of the T8S? Edit title: Previously "L1 Model 11 with...Read More...
I did turn off the L1 when this happened but did not disconnect the power cable. Since I got sound then, I never went any further. I plan to test again soon and will advise. ThanksRead More...
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T8S Mixer Tonematch mixer

I own 2 L1 Model II systems and 2 Tonematchs but I'm a novice when it comes to sound mix and proper connections. Just know some basic stuff. Looking at the T8S to use with the 2 L1's for an upcoming event. Sorry - as this has probably been asked and answered many times but - can I simply run XLR / 1/4" TRS cables from the T8S Main outs to the 2 L1's Analog inputs? Are there any issues doing this? Also can I use the older Tonematch mixers I own as submixers if needed? Thanks for any...Read More...
Perfect. Have the power supplies. Thx for the info and recommendations! Plan to order the T8S. Great site! Very helpful. Love the Bose pro sound systems.Read More...
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Can T4 earphone jack safely power S1Pro Aux input?

I'd like to try using the headphone jack in the T4S for monitor output (to aux in on S1Pro) because I expect it to be the same mix as going out the mains, but with its own volume control handy right above the Master volume on the T4S. The manual warns "Headphone Jack - for use with headphones only, with a minimum impedance of 24 ohms". Since the S1Pro aux in handles earphone connection from other devices, is it suitable for connection from the headphone jack of the T4S? Thanks, - Jim MRead More...
Hi Jim, Thanks for using the Sketcher. Here is your Sketch. T4S, 2 T1s, 1 S1 Pro, 3 performers, 4 instruments 1 - patricia, - SM58, alternates between flute, fiddle, percussion, panned to L1 to her right 2 - sue - SM58 on low mic stand - banjo - panned to L1 near Patricia 3 - sue - SM58 on higher mic stand - fiddle and vocal - panned to L1 on guitar side 4 - jim - guitar direct in - panned to L1 on guitar side, S1 Pro channel 3 fed from headphone out of T4S, S1 Pro on floor in its upward,...Read More...
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T-1 Tone Match PreAmp Outs 1-3 saturating my external recording device

I'm trying to record multiple separate tracks live from the T-1 Tone Match outputs for channels 1-3, going into 3 separate tracks into a Tascam Zoom H-5 Porta Studio. The Zoom 5 successfully records 3 separate tracks but the t-1 output levels are overwhelming the busses in the H-5 making it extremely difficult to get balanced recording tracks. I'm having to set the H-5 recording levels between 2 and 3 and the slightest adjustment has an extreme effect of the recording volume. It seems like I...Read More...
I had the same problem, sort of, recording with a Zoom 4Hn. I first tried going in the headphone stereo jack, which was recommended on a video. With that, I encountered terrible results. Then, I tired the XLR inputs of the Zoom with a -20db Attenuator that you can get on eBay or at Amazon cheap. Some people recommended a higher rating up to -50db but when I called Zoom, they said that the -20 would be all that I needed. It works fine. Also, several people said I didn't need a balanced cable,...Read More...
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PRESET FOR RIBBON MIC

I want to run a Royer R10 ribbon mic through the ToneMatch for both recording in the studio and also to the L1 system for live gigs. Are there any recommended presets for passive ribbon mics? If not, what setting do you recommend?Read More...
ST: thanks for the recommended preset settings using either Shure SM57 or the Senn e609 then fine tuning w/the zEQ or ParaEQ. Thanks also for the video link to the Guitar Cab Mic Shootout. I had watched that (and many others) before purchasing the Royer R10. The Rivera Silent Sister cab has two goosenecks and XLR wiring so I'm using a Shure SM57 with the Royer R10 close mounted over a Celestion G12M-75 Creamback. The tone is just sublime but I was having some difficulty getting that great...Read More...
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T8S Analog connection to L1 M2

I realize that the connection from the T8S is analog, and we are supposed to use a 1/4” balanced TRS cable into the L1 M2 analog input. What is supposed to be done with the L1 nalog input trim knob and associated light?Read More...

T8S for use with L1 model II with B2 Bass

I have read the online manual for the T8S, but just want to ask a clarification question before I purchase one. I would like to use the T8S for my L1 model II with B2 Bass line array system. From what I can tell, the only connection would be analog through a 1/4 TRS cable, is that correct? Will there be a difference in the quality of sound vs. using a XLR cable? Also, should the TRS cable be balanced? Thank you.Read More...
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Combo inputs and Phantom Power

snakehips
Hi there ! For the T1 and T4S/T8S, the inputs can have Phantom Power. Is the jack input part of the combo input BALANCED ? I was testing some of my acoustic guitars with a preamp/DI box I have, with another on I have just bought. I didn’t have a spare XLR-XLR cable at hand but I did have an XLR to balanced TRS cable, so plugged the TRS jack into the combo input. I couldn’t get the phantom power to power my guitar’s DI/Preamp. So, 1. Is Phantom Power only available to the XLR input part of...Read More...
Hi SnakeHips, I corrected the link above. Sorry about that. Phantom Power STRead More...
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T4s question when comparing to my existing T1

I can't find this info anywhere, but one of my biggest gripes with the T1, is that you cannot send separate EQ and or Delay via the Aux. So ideally, have my master mix, but have a aux output with a delay and a different tonematch preset or separate . EQ. Is this fixed with the T4s?Read More...
Hi Jaswrx, Yes, there are three Parametric EQs per channel on the T4S. STRead More...
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T1 Lower Kick Gate Threshold?

Hello Everyone! So a friend of mine has lent me his T1 Model II, and I'm actually digging it. We are using it as the sole amplification system for vocals in my extremely small jam space, and the compact size is amazing compared to my old 2X15 powered cab setup. Anyhow! Just last jam the bass player said he has trouble hearing the kick. I understand why as I use an 18X8 since there is no room to setup a proper size. I had the briliant idea to hook up my Beta 52A to the L1 just to boost up the...Read More...
Hey, Just tried lowering the sensitivity but unfortunately it's still not enough. There are also a few sections where I feather the kick drum and the gate won't let it through. I'm curious if anyone has had success making their own Kick gate using EQ and the standard gate? Any suggestions would be great! I tried making my own, but the standard gate doesn't seem to close up quick enough.Read More...
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T1® upgrade firmware to version 1.8

Please help, i just updated my T1 firmware to 1.8 version and now it sounds like **** may be some one can tell me what i did wrong. I use T1 with L1 model 1. for many years I love the big sound of my T1 and my L1. I should have left it alone. I try to reset to factory still no help. Thank you, Edit title: Previously "upgrade firmware"Read More...
Hi Sid, That's great news. Thanks for coming back to let us know you're okay. STRead More...
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Daisychaining 2 T1/T4

Hey All, Been away for quite some time. Decided to come back and visit the Bose page, and low and behold, we have new products. The T4S and T8S. I currently own the T1. In the past on here I have seen some of you talking about daisychaining 2, T1's. With the new T4S, does it make this hookup option any simpler, with the new features that the T4S offers. Wondering if the T4S allows you to hook up 2 of them, using only one of them as a master output. If this is possible, can it be done in the...Read More...
Hi macheted01, The T4S has four combo inputs. The T1® has three plus channel 4/5 (that's really one channel) The T4S has two Aux inputs called channels 5/6. You can connect a T1® to either of those channels, and still have four fully functional channels (1-4) to work with. The principle is similar to daisy-chaining two T1®s except that you have more channels. We've got a more detailed listing of the differences here: Comparison of T4S/T8S to T1® ToneMatch audio engine Does that tell you what...Read More...
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