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Bose F1 Model 812 with F1 Subwoofer

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  • Business presentations

Stereo configuration F1 (no Sub) in a smal room

Hi, Does the F1 system sounds good in low volume in a small room as it sounds in a large places? I bought two S1 Pro for my playing room (15ft x 12 ft) and they get into saturation when I connect to one of my drum machines (the kick blown away the 61/2" woofer in relative low volume). My Bass guitar also causes the 61/2" to work on its edge. So, after consulting the local Bose dealer, he recomended on the F1. My concern is the sound in low volume in a small room. BTW, I prefer the F1 over...Read More...
In additional, the cost of two F1 in compare to one F1 sub+ (2) S1 pro is the same, and to my opinion you get less for the same price.Read More...
Last Reply By Moshik · First Unread Post

F1 812 Speaker Placement

As I am planning to purchase a set of F1 for setting PA at small live band venue (~150 audience), F1 top 812 will be mounted on ceiling and F1 sub will be put to edge of stage, I expect to fill EVEN sounds to every audience at this hall. However, I could not find the detail technical data regarding F1. So far, I have three queries below. 1. How many F1 top 812 speaker should be added to the venue in my case? 2. What is the best 812 speakers placement (Option A / B / C / others)? 3. Do you...Read More...
I discussed the L1 solution with team recently, but we prefer to save space to mount these speaker on ceiling, so we switched to consider F1. Anyway, could you advise the solutions to my two cases below? 1. Hall #1 (47' x 23') with consistent sounds ---- Setup Diagram A 2. Hall #2 (60' x 23') with consistent sounds ---- Setup Diagram B 3. Diagram C is not necessary for my two cases, right? Thanks KenRead More...
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Dent!

jdbassentertainment.com
Got a dent on the grill on the top side/edge of one of my F1 tops... despite the speaker living in the Bose bags... How to fix?? Please help.Read More...
Not sure how the dent got there exactly... we are always quite careful with the gear... it must have gotten knocked into somewhere... Thanks for the tip on the hooks.Read More...
Last Reply By jdbassentertainment.com · First Unread Post

F1 812 Array stuck in C and just flops around

Last night after doing a gig for 4 hours after getting my rig home i noticed my one of my 812 tops in the C position and went to change it. But the array seems to be broken and just flops around in the C position. Its very loose and will no longer lock into any other position. What is wrong with this 812 top?Read More...
Hi DJ Aziz Masudi, I'm sorry your F1 Model 812 array is not locking in place. Please call Bose Support to talk about service options. Bose® Product & Technical Support at (877) 335-2673 (U.S. and Canada only) Monday-Friday: 9:00 AM - 9:00 PM ET Thanks, STRead More...
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Bad first experience with F1

Tom Munch
I finally ended up on an F1 system last night at a venue where I played a concert with a fine piano player and blues singer. I'm accustomed to using my L1 Model II in this kind of situation, but I thought this would be a great chance to really hear the F1. The short story is the sound was horrible on stage no matter what I tried. The audience said they had great sound, and when I was checking sound out front it was very good, but being on the back side of the F1 and sub mains with Mackie SRM...Read More...
I agree with Cowboy Upp. When forced to use FOH systems we almost always use L1's or Compacts as side washes and we have a great sound on stage. Your still not going to have any idea what the sound is off stage. Your FOH sound will be at the mercy of the sound man but that is the trade off when not using the L1 as intended.Read More...
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Mixer to F1 recommended setup

I am the new owner of an F1 system (one 812 and one subwoofer unit). I will be running everything into this system from a Yamaha MG10XU mixer. The Yamaha, of course, has L and R stereo outs, both XLR and TRS. I am curious about the best connection setup between the mixer and the 812. I have an XLR splitter which could plug into the L/R outs on the mixer and then run one cable into Input 1 on the 812. Or I could run separate cables from the L/R outs on the mixer and then go into both Input 1...Read More...
Hi AGP, Yes, that's it. STRead More...
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F1 Model 812 Line Out - Post EQ?

Okay, here we go. The line out on the F1 812 is "post volume." Is it pre-EQ? That is, if the EQ switch is set for "With Sub," Does the line out still pass a full frequency signal, or just the high pass signal?Read More...
Hi Smitty, Yes. I'm sorry, you'll have to set the volume on the second F1 Model 812 by ear. You can't assume the center detent is Unity (more on that below). But even if it was Unity, if the reason you are running your source to the F1 Model 812 is to add gain, setting the volume at Unity wouldn't add any gain. Unity? The concept of Unity doesn't quite apply here because there's no input trim control on the F1 Model 812 and, you've got different outcomes depending on whether you use balanced...Read More...
Last Reply By ST · First Unread Post
Hi Everybody, We want you to get the most from your F1 Model 812 and F1 Subwoofer . What are YOUR top five things you'd like to know about them. Ideas to get you started (but don't stop with these) Set up tips Usage tips Connections How do I ... Tips and tricks (tell us what you want to know about...) Thanks! ST See also: Top 5 - What do you want to know about your ToneMatch mixer? Top 5 - What do you want to know about your S1 Pro system? Top 5 - What do you want to know about your L1?Read More...
Okay, here we go. - we've started a new discussion for your question. F1 Model 812 Line Out - Post EQ? Please follow the link. Thanks.Read More...
Last Reply By Smitty · First Unread Post

Love the F1 Speakers

Hey! I'm new to the forum, but just wanted to express my appreciation of the design and product build of the Bose F1 speakers. I also have a question about purchasing another. I'm the worship pastor at a 500 seat fan-shaped building and we were previously running a mono mix with a pair of EAW speakers in the centre of the building. When we decided to move to an LCR mix, we bought a pair of JBL EONS for the left and right sides to supplement. While the stereo mix was greatly improved in the...Read More...
Great suggestion and sounds practical. Thanks for the advice...Read More...
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Line out to F1 Sub first or F1 812 first

I was wondering what difference if any between connecting line out from the mixer to the F1 sub then to the F1 812 or vice versa?Read More...
Si... ST. Muchas Gracias por despejar mi duda. Parece obvia la pregunta, pero al no disponer del producto y la dificultad del hablar en otro idioma se me hace difícil. Gracias a usted me estoy enterando e informando de características esenciales que me ayudan a tomar la mejor decisión. Pronto tendré en mis manos un F1 SUBWOOFER para anexar a mis 2 S1 PRO y estoy seguro que gracias a su ayuda voy a poder sacar el máximo provecho a estos sistemas. Abrazo Andy.Read More...
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Sound quality of single F1 vs S1 pro

I'm looking for thoughts/opinions on how a single F1 would compare I sound quality to an S1 Pro. I understand many of the differences/pros and cons of each speaker and a lot of boils down to the needs of the venue but I'm interested in knowing if I would be better off using one F1 as FOH along with an S1 as a monitor or using 2 S1 speakers. Would sound QUALITY be comparable? This application would be for solo acoustic guitar and vocalist and possible a second acoustic guitar and vocalist at...Read More...
Wow...sounds like you have your rig dialed in really well. Impressive. Thanks for sharing.Read More...
Last Reply By Simon Patrick · First Unread Post

Garbage Bags and Tarps and F1's oh my...

jdbassentertainment.com
Recently had the pleasure of providing sound reinforcement on a un-tented portable stage on a rainy day! I typically never accept shows like this (meaning I always require a tent over head), but I was trying to help out a local nonprofit... Needless to say I had contractor grade garbage bags on my 812 (to stop the rain from blowing on them) and had tarps over my F1 subs for half of the four hour concert... the rain/wind was on and off the whole time... nothing got ruined, but this will be...Read More...
@jdbassentertainment.com man did this resonate with us too. We’ve played outdoors where the weather was highly unpredictable and the cover we had was grossly inadequate. I remember one time we were using our L1M2 and you could see a squall line come up out of the blue. Despite folks saying it was nothing, we stopped and frantically broke down into a small shed nearby only to have the rain coming down in buckets mere minutes after we were safely put away. It was a nightmare. We were at a...Read More...
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THINKING OF BUYING BOSE F1

Hi, I currently own Bose L1 Model S, I use it for Djing ,it does me proud and im not complaining about it,i love it and where bus is ensential,this system does what it designed for but im looking for extra heavy bass system so that it can be heard in the venue and outside,where i use the system better heavy bass is everything,L1 needs alittle help when it comes to super heavy bass that you can hear it outside to attract customers. Since im falling in love with Bose system, im looking for...Read More...
Thank you I will buy 2 Bose F1 and follow your advice. I will use L1 Model 1S tooRead More...
Last Reply By GentleGiantPanza · First Unread Post

F1 812 clipping

hi, we we are a 5 piece band, going through an Allen and Heath mix wizard 3 to two F1 subs then out of subs to two F1 812s. We are getting a lot of clipping (red light) on the 812s during our performance. The mixer's mains and channel faders are set to unity gain. The 812s are set to "with sub" and the subs are set to full range. The volumes of all speakers are around the 1 o'clock mark. can anyone shed any light on how to address this clipping issue. it appears to happen most when more than...Read More...
Try the above then add more compression to your signals. You may even turn it back up, but I doubt you need to.Read More...
Last Reply By dichotomy · First Unread Post

F1 Model 812 system - not happy with the sound

Hi not really happy with the sound I'm getting out of my F1 system I've spent 4k on this set up and I'm struggling to get any were near the sound I can get out of my EV ekx 15p speakers without bass bins please helpRead More...
Hi Dean Pilky, When your signal path is Mixer to F1 Model 812 EQ set to WITH SUB F1 Model 812 F1 Subwoofer LINE OUTPUT EQ setting doesn't matter If you set the F1 Model 812 EQ is set to WITH SUB the LINE OUTPUT EQ setting on the F1 Subwoofer doesn't matter. That setting only applies to the F1 Subwoofer Line Out. We aren't using that output in this situation. Does that help? STRead More...
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F1 Tops Power Issue

Hi, One of our F1 Tops doesn't want to power up anymore - we've checked powersource and replaced cables, no success. Any idea? Where does one change a fuse on this thing? Thanks SassanRead More...
Hi Sassan, Thank you for joining the Bose Portable PA Community. I'm sorry you're having a power issue with one of your F1 Model 812 systems. There are no user serviceable components (e.g. fuses) in these systems. If it won't turn on, it will need to be serviced. Please contact your Bose dealer or Bose Professional Support. South Africa TID Unit B6 Northlands Deco Park Newmarket Road Northriding, JHB Republic of South Africa Tel: +27 10 5000 111 Fax: +2786 668 4226 info@tidistribution.co.za...Read More...
Last Reply By ST · First Unread Post

F1 Subwoofer Power Issues

ST, I have Another question on my f1 subwoofer. I have 3 of them currently. 1 operates fine all the time, the second will not power on after the 3rd use. And the the 3rd f1 subwoofer powers on as normal then about 30 -60 seconds after it will start a blinking revolution of the the blue, amber and green leds. The sub that wont power on is scheduled for pickup to head to bose next week. The 3rd with the lights is a mystery to me. I cannot find any documentation on what the cause is or how to...Read More...
Hi Glittle1234, I'm sorry, no new insights from me on the odd behaviour with the lights. Since you're already talking to Bose Support, it's best to take this up with them. Thanks, STRead More...
Last Reply By ST · First Unread Post

F1 Sub Bag

Anyone else (beside me ) just cut off that pesky bottom flap? It seems to work just fine protection-wise without it,and the minutes gained from trying to make it zip will ,over the long run,add a couple of days to my life!Read More...
They provide good protection, but they are a pain in the butt. I've already had a couple of the the zipper tabs break since they're always on the ground in the upright position, and it's a pain to keep flipping them back and forth to secure. I'd prefer just a well made slip cover with no bottom like every other cover. Plus the sub covers are still very tight on mine and are difficult to get on without catching the zippers. If they weren't so pricey, I might consider cutting off the flaps!Read More...
Last Reply By Brad · First Unread Post

Flexibility!

Hello all....Im lovin the F1 top/S1 combination: Master out from T1 to input of F1 F1 out to S1 behind me on a pole at head height I do a lot of senior entertaining,and for 99% of the time ,the S1 alone is perfect. If a little more volume,and or bass is needed,I can add the F1 in front of me,on the floor, with the top array pulled back.S1 stays behind me as a monitor.(just gotta remember to set the F1 to "full range") if anything bigger is needed--I can add the F1 sub,(flip the F1 to "with...Read More...
Hi Jayare, It's great to hear how the S1 Pro and F1 Model 812 combo is working for you. Thanks for taking the time to tell us about your setup. STRead More...
Last Reply By ST · First Unread Post

F1 Subs

I have three F1 Subs connected together now. How much more bass to the floor could i possible get if i add a 4th sub in the chain. My tops are on stands, and my subs are connected and running through each other and out to my tops. Also F series by the way. And im using a Denon Prime X1800 Club Mixer with a very hot signal.Read More...
Hi DJ Aziz Masudi, You'll hear a difference, perhaps a little less than you hear going from two to three. By all means try it. I think you'll end up using either two or four F1 Subwoofers depending on the size of the gig. STRead More...
Last Reply By ST · First Unread Post

Wireless headset mic for the L1 compact

Morning all - I hope everyone is well. I am hoping for some guidance from people more knowledgeable than I am :-) My wife runs a child entertainment business and uses an L1 Compact for the music. It is an iPod connected to the 1/8 inch line input that provides the music. Her classes are steadily growing and now needs to use a headset mic to be heard. I am having trouble finding a simple solution to this. Am I going mad? Most of the products that have a 2.4Hz headset and receiver that I can...Read More...
Hi Adam, That's great. Enjoy your L1 Compact. STRead More...
Last Reply By ST · First Unread Post

give me a break

You don't have Phantom power on your pres?! you sum channels on your line out. I thought bose was pro gear. for the love of all things good fix this.Read More...
QSC K and KW series have an option for "thru" (pre-volume) or mix. My Fishman gear has that as well. (Yamaha varies a bit by series.) A typical use for the "Thru" output would be XLR from mixer to 812 #1 and XLR from 812 #1 to 812 #2. Since the output is volume dependent, will setting volume on both units at the +0 position yield equal volume in this configuration?? I would have much preferred the option to mix or send at least a single input to "Thru". Just got F1 system unboxed and don't...Read More...
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Connecting F1's to Tonematch for audio device usage

kevinaugustine
Equipment: Bose f1 system (2 tops, 2 subs) T1 Tonematch T1 Power Supply Iphone/Macbook pro Hi Guys! Nice to be back! I've recently been asked if I could set up the F1's for a wedding party of about 150 people. I've never done this before but I said I would regardless. (just some simple spotify playlist stuff) My question is how is this done using the T1 and would I need some sort of splitter 1/4 jack stereo cable to minijack to connect to my iPhone/macbook from the Tonematch? I've seen and...Read More...
Hi Kevin, Easy fix! It's okay - but you lose the ability to use the Master Volume control on the T1®, so do what works best for you. It's all up to you. It may not be necessary to have the output volumes equal. Not all rooms or settings are symetrical. Any time Kevin. STRead More...
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sound question BBE sonic maximizer

timeless entertainment
sound question BBE 482i Sonic Maximizer it have read that the sound of the bose f1 set genteel would improve this is a good solution or is this a breakdown to the bose sound. or can I better buy the bose T4 or T8. Do especially live PA and dj work. Currently 2 set's of the bose f1 so 4 top's and 4 subsRead More...
I use it b/c the F1 subs tend to require a very hot signal, and even at Max volume from my mixer, and well into clipping on mixer, my F1s still have room to breathe, so I use it to add volume.Read More...
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