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Succeeding in the Performing Arts: Introduction

Ken-at-Bose
Hi Folks, For the past few years, we've had discussions amongst the moderators and others about the idea of collecting our experiences in the performing arts (mostly live music) into some short essays that might help to disseminate the knowledge. The time has come to begin this effort. Each "lesson learned" will be a new thread, whose title will begin with "SUCCEEDING IN THE PERFORMING ARTS" followed by a colon and few words about the topic. We are completely comfortable, in fact we are...Read More...
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Dealing with the sound man

Oldghm
The following paragraph is taken from the Chris Kroff article linked by ST in this thread, I'm having feedback issues . I felt like the author was a bit condescending in this particular paragraph. "It helps to try to get the mic as close to the instrument as possible without the risk of the performer hitting it with the guitar as he or she becomes more animated during the louder numbers. This is easier if your guitarist is sitting down for the show, obviously, but even then, many performers...Read More...
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Last Reply By Sam Spoons · First Unread Post

L1 M2/B2

Hi Guys Following on from my recent post about the T1 settings and confusion with the trim control, I am pleased to report that after some tweaking following tips from forum members I have now sussed what the trim is all about. Special thanks to ST! I did a gig Saturday in a very compact pub in the heart of Whitstable, I would normally take my L1 Compact but thought I'd load the L1M2/B2 and am glad I did. The sound was superb. All the previous issues of compression etc have all gone, seems I...Read More...
Hi, Jay (discovergems). I use modelers (and pedalboards with guitar amp modeling) all the time. Here is an article with some ideas. Electric Guitar Cheers, STRead More...
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Points East on 2 L1 M2's

Points East on 2 L1M2 2xB1 Terrific sound! Best the venue has ever heard!Read More...
Wanted to reach back out to points east to see how everything is working out and if you have discovered anything new...especially with regard to the ETL mic. Are you still running everything to Both L1s instead of sending some instruments/vocals to one and the rest to the other? Are you able to keep the ETL mic out in front of the L1s without feedback issues? Is the ETL mic also being sent to both L1s by keeping a center pan or do you just send it to 1? Sorry for all of the questions. My...Read More...
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Bandhelp App

@Jeff K And speaking of the Bandhelper App, happy with it? Looking to go to an ipad rather than two FULL binders. Any other recommendations/advice? Thanks.Read More...
PS: Number 4 in my previous post could GREATLY speed things up if you're loading your pad/song database from scratch.Read More...
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S1 in action

Hi gang I just have to share this with my Bose family. I did a little afternoon gig yesterday at a 90th birthday party in a local pub hall, they had arranged the tables like a banquet hall, there were about 40 people, I was booked to sing old time sing-a-longs for an hour after the meal. As you can see from the picture I popped my little S1 on a stand and kept the whole affair uncomplicated, iPad and vocals straight through the S1 and the guitar in channel two by way of my Xvive. The room...Read More...
Warning: I have had use a wire (xlr to xlr) to plug the receiver of the U3 microphone/line wireless into my QSC Touchmix board because the xlr mic inputs to the board are recessed and the end of the U3 won't fit!Read More...
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What's more important; what you hear or what the audience hears?

ST
Here are some things I've heard from performers. I have to be inspired by my sound before I can give an inspired show to the audience. Most of the time the audience will not hear the difference between a $300 guitar and a $3000 guitar. So why spend the money? It's good enough for live. I regularly play at a venue with a mediocre sound system. The monitors are ugly, and the sound in the house is muddy. Whenever I play there, I bring my Bose gear even though I know the regulars are happy...Read More...
Great points seagullman. It's true that there's a spectrum of stage sound depending on the system and gigs. At home I practice with my stereo guitar effects mixed stereo through a QSC Touchmix 16 into a Behringer sub and 2 S1 Pros (left and right) at a decent level pointed toward me from across the practice space. That's a 10. I have a regular gig where the band plays in a semi-enclosed space with a Bose L1S and B2 right next to me (along with a tempo and taste challenged conga player) and...Read More...
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Light Hanger worse than Guitar Hanger??

Jeff K
Hey folks, So, I'm just throwing this out there that if Bose is going to take down my question about the possibility of attaching a lightweight LED light fixture non-destructively to the top of my L1 Compacts, and threaten loss of warranty for (non-existent) modifications of or alterations to the system, maybe they might want to take down any reference on the forum to this idiotic idea of actually hanging multiple much heavier guitars from them:...Read More...
Hi O, Understood, the warranty comment may be from the email they sent me, I'll have to look. Although I'm sure that anything that goes against the Caution statements would be warranty affecting. I'm not saying Bose has to endorse the idea, I just think it's silly to shut down any conversation about it. I've had discussions on other manufacturer boards on actually doing modifications to equipment and the manufacturer just cautions that it would void the warrant, care must be taken, etc, but...Read More...
Last Reply By Jeff K · First Unread Post

Feedback at higher volume

We tried our new L1 at a bar gig. Singer with his microphone, electric piano, and drum machine, singing maybe ten feet away to the side of the unit is getting feedback, therefore unable to turn up the system to fill the room. Mid-sized room, a bit noisy, but I thought that the L1 was made to suppress feedback? If we can't turn the system to without getting feedback, this is of no use to us.Read More...
Another important consideration is comparative loudness...dynamics... I never sing "full out" any more...I never sing at full volume. The loudest I sing is about 75% of what I can do. I spend most of my time in the 30-60% range of loudness and often dip down below 20% to create the lower dynamic that "louder" dynamics rely upon to be effective. It's not how loud one sings overall that creates the highest dynamic range it's the overall RANGE, the softer contrasted with the louder, that gets...Read More...
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L1 Positioning vs Compact Positioning

captacoustic
This is mostly directed at ST. Since he reads everything (before we even write it) I feel no need to address it to him: Sir, it has come to my attention that you advocate a mostly to-the-side positioning of the Compact rather than behind and to-the-side. Is there a specific reason this would apply to the Compact and NOT to an L1?Read More...
The EV N/D (N/Dym) mic line is actually quite good, as are the old "Variable D" RE models. I bought a handful of the N/D 767's for our church band that were a big improvement over their SM58's (we did stay with an SM58 for one lady who's "problem" area tonally was emphasized by the N/D's presence peak). You can find a lot of the original RE series on eBay, etc, for a song as people just think they're old run of the mill mics. But you would be surprised at how good the R15 sounds on guitars...Read More...
Last Reply By Jeff K · First Unread Post

Which Bose System Setup?

What would be the ideal Bose system to fill an acoustically treated live room studio with no amps. We’ll run 2 guitars, 1 bass, Mic’d Drums, 1 keyboard, 2/3 vocal mics directly to the Bose PA System with a Mixer. I want a nice balanced mix and I think Bose is the way to go The room measures 600 sq ft and it’s 11 ft highRead More...
Hi luismarroquin What are the dimensions of the room? (e.g, 25'x24, 20'x30' or 15'x40') Will you set up on the long wall or the short wall? Are the guitars electric or acoustic? From your other post, Please tell us about your live shows. Where do you perform and what kind of music are you playing? STRead More...
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Discussion Area for Pat Metheny On Tour with Bose L1

Ken-at-Bose
Hello Folks: I am honored to debut here a video we've made with 19-Grammy Winner Pat Metheny. Pat Metheny On Tour with the Bose L1 Here's a link to the discussion where I talk about his musical work that involves the Bose L1 systems. Pat Metheny Project Description I greatly look forward to your comments and questions. With best regards, Ken Jacob Research and DevelopmentRead More...
Of course! So obvious I guess I didn't even think of the simplest way to go. Thanks again!Read More...
Last Reply By Walt B · First Unread Post

Derby Party Gig

Oldghm
A few weeks back I was hired to play a Derby party. I did not know the host, nor did the host know me, I was suggested by someone else who could not do the gig. A few days after being hired the host called and wanted to know if I would mind adjusting the schedule to allow for a band to play in my agreed on time slot. I discovered he had been trying to hire an up and coming country artist before calling me and it didn't look like it would happen, then at the last minute he became available. I...Read More...
Hi ST, I agree. These guys reminded me of Eagles concerts I've been to in the past. Every note is pre planned. I admire and am impressed with the talent level it takes to play like that but I too prefer the vulnerability, and spontaneity of in the moment interaction. The drummer was the most disciplined I've seen in awhile, perhaps ever. He was just as deliberative as the guitarist or the bassist, never seemed to be playing busy, simply for the rhythm, but consciously making good music. I...Read More...
Last Reply By Oldghm · First Unread Post

Kemper Profiling Amp and the L1 Model II, (or L1 Compact or S1 Pro)

ST
I was telling a buddy about my great experience playing a Mesa Boogie Lonestar 30 1x12 combo amp over the weekend. He's a drummer but he knows that amp and really likes it. The fellow who owns it saw how much I liked it and offered to sell it to me at a great price. Why? Because both he are the amp are 65 (amp in pounds, he in years) and although he loves the sound, he hates moving it around. A few years ago I might have snapped up that amp in a heartbeat. But as I told my buddy the drummer,...Read More...
With a change in lighting to the first pic, BOTH left and right L1 systems are easily seen:Read More...
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Tablets on Stage

ST
Happy New Year! With the recent activity in Is Your Repertoire Defined by Your Memory? ( latest posts ) I wanted to check in on what you are using for technology on stage. I'm still using my Surface Tablets as I described in a previous discussion Microsoft Surface 2 Pro and original Surface RT. --∈∞ΘΞ Please click the picture for more details ΞΘ∞∋-- Gear I got the Surface 2 Pro and use it when I'm creating content, writing, drawing, making annotations. I still have the original Surface RT...Read More...
Hi ST, Interesting post, but just about what I've come to expect from many today. Music streaming instead of having a look through ones collection to see what you fancy listening to. Music being created on computers rather than using instruments that you can take into a forest and play your favourite songs. Those are just 2 examples. Don't get me wrong here. I think that all tastes should be catered for. However, some of them I will go out of my way to avoid if possible. Many songs I could...Read More...
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T4S with S1 Pro Gig Report

I played a benefit yesterday using a T4S mixer and one S1Pro. There were several hundred people in a huge hall that had a Big Bose house system. I put the S1 behind me sitting on a piano one of the bands used. I single-miked with my Ear Trumpet Louise mike but plugged my Gibson lg in to run at low volume with chorus. I set it to where it sounded good to my ears coming out of the S1 and then lined it out to the house system. The sound guy set everything neutral, reluctantly, but smiled when I...Read More...
Very nice report. Thanks for sharing.Read More...
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Why do you play? Why do you perform?

ST
Can you folks help me with something? It speaks to our reason for being here. Why do you play music? -= and =- Why do you perform? Thanks! ST I asked this question in 2006. Please reply here before looking at the old thread . Thanks.Read More...
Hi Lawdy, Welcome to the Bose Portable PA Community. I'm glad you joined us. Thanks for introducing yourself. It's nice to get to know you. STRead More...
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Who is the customer: the venue or the audience?

ST
In your business model, who is the customer? Venue People in the audience STRead More...
We play at a local fine dining-on-one-side bar-on-the-other-side venue quite often. Have played there almost 100 times. No two evenings are the same. We have it worked out with the bar manager, who also books the bands. If there are business meetings going on and they are selling a lot of food in the restaurant and the bar is relatively quiet, we pull the volume way back,. Some evenings, we pack the bar and it turns into a concert. If we are the reason they came, we crank it up as loud as we...Read More...
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L1 on tour with Ariko

Starvin
Introduction Homegrown in Tiny, Ontario, Ariko features the rich vocal harmonies and dynamic fiddle stylings of the Lefaive sisters along with a driving and energetic rhythm section delivered by their parents Laura and Louis and friend Rick Patenaude. Their repertoire consists of fiddle driven original and traditional music performed in English and French. Ariko is presently on tour throughout the province of Ontario in Canada playing festivals, community centres and schools. ST encouraged...Read More...
Hey guys Just got back from our last mini tour. It started in Wawa Ont. then Chapleau,Hearst, Kapuskasing and finally Timmins. We had a great time , met some really nice, interesting people and saw some cool things. You have to love that northern hospitality. We brought the Bose setup for what we thought was the one school workshop we had. The rest of the tour was supposed to be sound supplied. Thank God for that school because 3 of the venues either had sub-standard PA or no PA at all. We...Read More...
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Relevance in the 21st Century - What are you playing these days?

ST
What music are you playing these days? I have been trying to find music that means something to my audience today. That is, a different audience than I have known in the decades gone by. Have you changed the content of your show lately? How do you choose what to play? Things that I have been doing lately: Asking the staff and management at the places where I play for ideas. Listening to music has been written lately. For me, that's anything written in this century. Learning some of this new...Read More...
Love the term "Melody-deficient". O..Read More...
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Musicians - What are you driving?

ST
I remember the day I realized I could pack enough L1 Classics into a car to support my four piece band. That was the day I sold my band van. What are you driving to gigs these days? What are you putting in it? DJs and KJs we've got a discussion for you: DJs and KJS - What are you driving?Read More...
Yes, this is true... I am a musician, live sound engineer, studio engineer and DJ.Read More...
Last Reply By jdbassentertainment.com · First Unread Post

Shure SM58 vs. Shure Beta 58 - What's the difference?

ST
We often talk about these Shure microphones as options to connect to our Bose equipment. Here's an article from Shure that talks about the differences. Shure SM58 vs. Shure Beta 58 - What's the difference? Here is a more detailed article Enjoy. STRead More...
Yes for the same reasons I listed above.Read More...
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What's changed for you in live sound?

ST
In another discussion, I got a chance to reflect on how things have changed in live sound. A few years ago I would have scoffed at the ideas I would: Play a carbon fibre guitar for most of my acoustic gigs Use a 16-pound, battery-powered portable PA for real gigs Use a 12-pound amp profiler through a personal PA to replace all my guitar amps I've changed my thinking about what's possible and the value I can get for my money. What kinds of things have changed for you? STRead More...
Here's an example of how things have changed. Someone can ask a question and a community like we have here will rise to the challenge to help Wireless Mic Experiences with L1M2 and folks on the sidelines can follow along and learn. Wonderful. STRead More...
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What prevents you from enjoying the performance?

ST
We've talked about Why do you play? Why do you perform? What prevents you from enjoying the performance? Let's see what we've got in common and share ideas and solutions. Thanks! STRead More...
Thinking about this, "What prevents you from enjoying the performance?" I decided to go the other way and think about what I personally enjoy about musical performances. I like story songs, ballads, melodic music. I like good harmony, clear vocals, a sensitivity to the story being told and a delivery that convinces me the story teller has been there, done that. Good musicianship. I am a mediocre musician at best, self taught, play by ear, relatively little band experience. I marvel at good...Read More...
Last Reply By Oldghm · First Unread Post

Gig pictures!

S1 saved the day! I’ve attached photos of a gig I did a couple of weeks ago at a large catering hall for a 60th birthday. I didn’t see the venue prior to the gig but I knew it was large. To my surprise it was separated into two areas. The main dining area (Pic 1 and 3).And another area thru the barn sliding door that turned out to be a lobby area with a separate bar and was set up to be a gambling area.(Pic 2 and 4)The second area was actually larger than the dining area. I brought my Bose...Read More...
We has a very similar situation where the venue was L shaped so the other area was off to the side and behind us! We did the same thing where we ran the S1 on battery and simply plugging it in an Aux Out on our mixer (not a T1) pointing off in that other direction. Sounds quality was great comin out of the L1 into the S1 and the customers were amazed they could hear the music so well. We were one of the only groups who projected sound into both areas. The owner was extremely impressed with...Read More...
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