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Why do you play? Why do you perform?

ST
Can you folks help me with something? It speaks to our reason for being here. Why do you play music? -= and =- Why do you perform? Thanks! ST I asked this question in 2006. Please reply here before looking at the old thread . Thanks.Read More...
Hi Lawdy, Welcome to the Bose Portable PA Community. I'm glad you joined us. Thanks for introducing yourself. It's nice to get to know you. STRead More...
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Relevance in the 21st Century - What are you playing these days?

ST
What music are you playing these days? I have been trying to find music that means something to my audience today. That is, a different audience than I have known in the decades gone by. Have you changed the content of your show lately? How do you choose what to play? Things that I have been doing lately: Asking the staff and management at the places where I play for ideas. Listening to music has been written lately. For me, that's anything written in this century. Learning some of this new...Read More...
Here is a site with new material that seems to work for most age groups. Cellar sessions A couple of my favorites from this site that have been popular with all age groups are: The Teskey Brothers-Crying Shame,Shiny moon Actually anything from the Teskey Brothers seems to work. Hinder - What Ya Gona DoRead More...
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Succeeding in the Performing Arts: Introduction

Ken-at-Bose
Hi Folks, For the past few years, we've had discussions amongst the moderators and others about the idea of collecting our experiences in the performing arts (mostly live music) into some short essays that might help to disseminate the knowledge. The time has come to begin this effort. Each "lesson learned" will be a new thread, whose title will begin with "SUCCEEDING IN THE PERFORMING ARTS" followed by a colon and few words about the topic. We are completely comfortable, in fact we are...Read More...
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What are you doing with your extra time these days

ST
Hi Everybody, Let's share some ideas about self-care and how we can be kind to ourselves and one another in these difficult times. This is off-topic for our community but we can do this productively if we focus on how we are filling the time left to us because of canceled gigs. For me, this has given me time to catch up on some writing, finish some songs, get reacquainted with my gear, and get in touch with distant connections. Next, I want to explore ways to collaborate with musicians...Read More...
Disagree with your ST. This is what we're doing with our time. I for one found CityFolks jokes both refreshing and funny. Just what I needed during these tough times. A good laugh!Read More...
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We lost another great artist yesterday

CityFolk
John Prine, Singer-Songwriter Known for Wit and Warmth, Dies at 73 https://www.wsj.com/articles/country-folk-music-singer-john-prine- 73-dies-from-covid-19-11586309968 Sad day for us all, but his music will survive. Rest In Peace John.Read More...
Saddest Loss of another great... Poet Artist Truthful Human Being .... John Prine. Warmest wishes and consolations to his Family,Friends,Co-Musicians, and all those whose lives he so comically, beautifully, deeply and eloquently touched. He will live on in us alway's and help us all through these strange times we currently live in. Roll On Forever........ Dear John. Ronnie.Read More...
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Doing online performances with S1 or L1

CityFolk
I’m seeing several folks mention here about doing online performances. This is new to me and I would love to “hear” (no pun intended) what medium is being used, how did you set it up, what’s involved etc. I’m not looking for super professional setups, something more casual. I’d like to do some performances for some of the retire communities we have played for in the past as they are so quarantined now for their own safety. I hope this topic is not too far off from the purpose of this...Read More...
It was Facebook Live ... we only left it up for a day before "expiring" it. We thought we'd leave them wanting more (or keep them from having to endure it any longer! ) I'm also playing with vMix and StreamLabs OBS software to see if either of those can enhance the production value, but I don't want to get too many layers to manage during a performance. FishRead More...
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Quotable quotes

CityFolk
Just for Friday fun, here’s a quote I found that really resonated with me: “Music is a repair shop. So I'm basically a repairman. And I'm trying to repair myself. If I do that well enough, I will help repair you while I'm doing it.” ... Bruce Springsteen To paraphrase a TV commercial, what quote do you have in your wallet? 😁Read More...
These are great keep them coming!Read More...
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Lessons Learned - Sharing the wisdom

ST
We have lots of experience as performers. Care to share an idea that can spare someone else the heartache of learning something first-hand? See the full video here What's the lesson here? Always check your strap locks OR always have a backup guitar? On a more serious note - and the thought that led to this post. I have some of my guitars on an 8-guitar tree. One day, a friend picked up the Composite Acoustics Cargo by the guitar strap. The guitar was pointed up. She lifted the strap straight...Read More...
To ST’s point, if there is an important enough reason to formalize a performance agreement between the venue and the performers, it would be a good idea to have a some sort of agreement signed off on. We have rarely gone this far, but there are some venues that like to have a more formal contract in place. Here is an example/template, but I am NOT claiming this is a legally binding contract. Be sure to review with a lawyer and to make changes that fit your needs.Read More...
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Time Saving Tips

ST
Hey there. Looking around, it appears we have some grizzled veterans hanging out here. Do you have some time-saving tips you'd care to share with others? How do you optimize your time and leverage your efforts at your gigs? Thanks, STRead More...
Hi, CityFolk, The XLR cable attached to the microphone stand. It's just long enough to reach from the ToneMatch mixer (mounted on the microphone stand) to the microphone at the end of the boom arm attached to the same stand. I think it's about 30 inches. STRead More...
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iPads, which programs are you using?

Great advice Chet, Jeff and CityFolk. Regarding iPads, which programs are you using? I've begun with Bandhelper but having a difficult time convincing everyone to change from the old binders/folders. Any input I would appreciate.Read More...
Ha ha ... last year I got new prescription glasses and they came with clip-on 'shades'. All good until I discovered that I couldn't read a thing with the shades on - because they're polarized!!! Thanks for the kind words ... yes, I've kinda got used to the process that I've worked out and it just works for me. I also do a quick checklist before a gig - to make sure that I don't forget anything. I even pencil a sketch of the setup so that I know what I'm going to do for my setup - before I...Read More...
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Good enough for live music

ST
I can't remember when or where I first heard the phrase "It's good enough for live music" but I've heard it a lot over the years. Sometimes it was said in celebration, "Yay, we've gotten things sounding good enough to play for an audience." Sometimes it was said in resignation, "It's not great, it's not good, but it's good enough." Sometimes, said after a song, set, or gig, it meant, "That was rough, but hey, we're not cutting an album here." Interestingly, when said on a Bose stage it was...Read More...
I'm thinking "Close enough for Jazz" is "overkill for country". Merle Haggard being an exception. I'm reminded of a friend, whose guitar playing I admire greatly, who will play jazz chords over a melody while I am singing. It sounds great, except when it doesn't, then it's just another wrong chord. Rob Wright said, " ...... play the same songs every night you learn just how much the audience brings to every performance. I have had nights when I know I played my very best and got only a warm...Read More...
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Chris-at-Bose announces retirement

Chris-at-Bose
To all my friends on the forum-- After 36.3 years of working for Bose, I will retire in early June. It's not that I'm so old, or not having fun; I just want to get my share of leisure activity while Bridget and I are still fit and strong enough to enjoy all the outdoor things we love to do. The clock is definitely ticking, so it's time for us to get out there. Our plans are simple: take each day as it comes and do what we like best. I expect there will be quite a bit of traveling, so we may...Read More...
Best of luck to you Chris! I have been retired for a few years now and don't actively gig so much although I still travel around with a Compact in hopes of the occasional plug and play gig in South Florida.Read More...
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Dealing with the sound man

Oldghm
The following paragraph is taken from the Chris Kroff article linked by ST in this thread, I'm having feedback issues . I felt like the author was a bit condescending in this particular paragraph. "It helps to try to get the mic as close to the instrument as possible without the risk of the performer hitting it with the guitar as he or she becomes more animated during the louder numbers. This is easier if your guitarist is sitting down for the show, obviously, but even then, many performers...Read More...
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L1 M2/B2

Hi Guys Following on from my recent post about the T1 settings and confusion with the trim control, I am pleased to report that after some tweaking following tips from forum members I have now sussed what the trim is all about. Special thanks to ST! I did a gig Saturday in a very compact pub in the heart of Whitstable, I would normally take my L1 Compact but thought I'd load the L1M2/B2 and am glad I did. The sound was superb. All the previous issues of compression etc have all gone, seems I...Read More...
Hi, Jay (discovergems). I use modelers (and pedalboards with guitar amp modeling) all the time. Here is an article with some ideas. Electric Guitar Cheers, STRead More...
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Points East on 2 L1 M2's

Points East on 2 L1M2 2xB1 Terrific sound! Best the venue has ever heard!Read More...
Wanted to reach back out to points east to see how everything is working out and if you have discovered anything new...especially with regard to the ETL mic. Are you still running everything to Both L1s instead of sending some instruments/vocals to one and the rest to the other? Are you able to keep the ETL mic out in front of the L1s without feedback issues? Is the ETL mic also being sent to both L1s by keeping a center pan or do you just send it to 1? Sorry for all of the questions. My...Read More...
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Bandhelp App

@Jeff K And speaking of the Bandhelper App, happy with it? Looking to go to an ipad rather than two FULL binders. Any other recommendations/advice? Thanks.Read More...
PS: Number 4 in my previous post could GREATLY speed things up if you're loading your pad/song database from scratch.Read More...
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S1 in action

Hi gang I just have to share this with my Bose family. I did a little afternoon gig yesterday at a 90th birthday party in a local pub hall, they had arranged the tables like a banquet hall, there were about 40 people, I was booked to sing old time sing-a-longs for an hour after the meal. As you can see from the picture I popped my little S1 on a stand and kept the whole affair uncomplicated, iPad and vocals straight through the S1 and the guitar in channel two by way of my Xvive. The room...Read More...
Warning: I have had use a wire (xlr to xlr) to plug the receiver of the U3 microphone/line wireless into my QSC Touchmix board because the xlr mic inputs to the board are recessed and the end of the U3 won't fit!Read More...
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What's more important; what you hear or what the audience hears?

ST
Here are some things I've heard from performers. I have to be inspired by my sound before I can give an inspired show to the audience. Most of the time the audience will not hear the difference between a $300 guitar and a $3000 guitar. So why spend the money? It's good enough for live. I regularly play at a venue with a mediocre sound system. The monitors are ugly, and the sound in the house is muddy. Whenever I play there, I bring my Bose gear even though I know the regulars are happy...Read More...
Great points seagullman. It's true that there's a spectrum of stage sound depending on the system and gigs. At home I practice with my stereo guitar effects mixed stereo through a QSC Touchmix 16 into a Behringer sub and 2 S1 Pros (left and right) at a decent level pointed toward me from across the practice space. That's a 10. I have a regular gig where the band plays in a semi-enclosed space with a Bose L1S and B2 right next to me (along with a tempo and taste challenged conga player) and...Read More...
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Light Hanger worse than Guitar Hanger??

Jeff K
Hey folks, So, I'm just throwing this out there that if Bose is going to take down my question about the possibility of attaching a lightweight LED light fixture non-destructively to the top of my L1 Compacts, and threaten loss of warranty for (non-existent) modifications of or alterations to the system, maybe they might want to take down any reference on the forum to this idiotic idea of actually hanging multiple much heavier guitars from them:...Read More...
Hi O, Understood, the warranty comment may be from the email they sent me, I'll have to look. Although I'm sure that anything that goes against the Caution statements would be warranty affecting. I'm not saying Bose has to endorse the idea, I just think it's silly to shut down any conversation about it. I've had discussions on other manufacturer boards on actually doing modifications to equipment and the manufacturer just cautions that it would void the warrant, care must be taken, etc, but...Read More...
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Feedback at higher volume

We tried our new L1 at a bar gig. Singer with his microphone, electric piano, and drum machine, singing maybe ten feet away to the side of the unit is getting feedback, therefore unable to turn up the system to fill the room. Mid-sized room, a bit noisy, but I thought that the L1 was made to suppress feedback? If we can't turn the system to without getting feedback, this is of no use to us.Read More...
Another important consideration is comparative loudness...dynamics... I never sing "full out" any more...I never sing at full volume. The loudest I sing is about 75% of what I can do. I spend most of my time in the 30-60% range of loudness and often dip down below 20% to create the lower dynamic that "louder" dynamics rely upon to be effective. It's not how loud one sings overall that creates the highest dynamic range it's the overall RANGE, the softer contrasted with the louder, that gets...Read More...
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L1 Positioning vs Compact Positioning

captacoustic
This is mostly directed at ST. Since he reads everything (before we even write it) I feel no need to address it to him: Sir, it has come to my attention that you advocate a mostly to-the-side positioning of the Compact rather than behind and to-the-side. Is there a specific reason this would apply to the Compact and NOT to an L1?Read More...
The EV N/D (N/Dym) mic line is actually quite good, as are the old "Variable D" RE models. I bought a handful of the N/D 767's for our church band that were a big improvement over their SM58's (we did stay with an SM58 for one lady who's "problem" area tonally was emphasized by the N/D's presence peak). You can find a lot of the original RE series on eBay, etc, for a song as people just think they're old run of the mill mics. But you would be surprised at how good the R15 sounds on guitars...Read More...
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Which Bose System Setup?

What would be the ideal Bose system to fill an acoustically treated live room studio with no amps. We’ll run 2 guitars, 1 bass, Mic’d Drums, 1 keyboard, 2/3 vocal mics directly to the Bose PA System with a Mixer. I want a nice balanced mix and I think Bose is the way to go The room measures 600 sq ft and it’s 11 ft highRead More...
Hi luismarroquin What are the dimensions of the room? (e.g, 25'x24, 20'x30' or 15'x40') Will you set up on the long wall or the short wall? Are the guitars electric or acoustic? From your other post, Please tell us about your live shows. Where do you perform and what kind of music are you playing? STRead More...
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Discussion Area for Pat Metheny On Tour with Bose L1

Ken-at-Bose
Hello Folks: I am honored to debut here a video we've made with 19-Grammy Winner Pat Metheny. Pat Metheny On Tour with the Bose L1 Here's a link to the discussion where I talk about his musical work that involves the Bose L1 systems. Pat Metheny Project Description I greatly look forward to your comments and questions. With best regards, Ken Jacob Research and DevelopmentRead More...
Of course! So obvious I guess I didn't even think of the simplest way to go. Thanks again!Read More...
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Derby Party Gig

Oldghm
A few weeks back I was hired to play a Derby party. I did not know the host, nor did the host know me, I was suggested by someone else who could not do the gig. A few days after being hired the host called and wanted to know if I would mind adjusting the schedule to allow for a band to play in my agreed on time slot. I discovered he had been trying to hire an up and coming country artist before calling me and it didn't look like it would happen, then at the last minute he became available. I...Read More...
Hi ST, I agree. These guys reminded me of Eagles concerts I've been to in the past. Every note is pre planned. I admire and am impressed with the talent level it takes to play like that but I too prefer the vulnerability, and spontaneity of in the moment interaction. The drummer was the most disciplined I've seen in awhile, perhaps ever. He was just as deliberative as the guitarist or the bassist, never seemed to be playing busy, simply for the rhythm, but consciously making good music. I...Read More...
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Kemper Profiling Amp and the L1 Model II, (or L1 Compact or S1 Pro)

ST
I was telling a buddy about my great experience playing a Mesa Boogie Lonestar 30 1x12 combo amp over the weekend. He's a drummer but he knows that amp and really likes it. The fellow who owns it saw how much I liked it and offered to sell it to me at a great price. Why? Because both he are the amp are 65 (amp in pounds, he in years) and although he loves the sound, he hates moving it around. A few years ago I might have snapped up that amp in a heartbeat. But as I told my buddy the drummer,...Read More...
With a change in lighting to the first pic, BOTH left and right L1 systems are easily seen:Read More...
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Tablets on Stage

ST
Happy New Year! With the recent activity in Is Your Repertoire Defined by Your Memory? ( latest posts ) I wanted to check in on what you are using for technology on stage. I'm still using my Surface Tablets as I described in a previous discussion Microsoft Surface 2 Pro and original Surface RT. --∈∞ΘΞ Please click the picture for more details ΞΘ∞∋-- Gear I got the Surface 2 Pro and use it when I'm creating content, writing, drawing, making annotations. I still have the original Surface RT...Read More...
Hi ST, Interesting post, but just about what I've come to expect from many today. Music streaming instead of having a look through ones collection to see what you fancy listening to. Music being created on computers rather than using instruments that you can take into a forest and play your favourite songs. Those are just 2 examples. Don't get me wrong here. I think that all tastes should be catered for. However, some of them I will go out of my way to avoid if possible. Many songs I could...Read More...
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T4S with S1 Pro Gig Report

I played a benefit yesterday using a T4S mixer and one S1Pro. There were several hundred people in a huge hall that had a Big Bose house system. I put the S1 behind me sitting on a piano one of the bands used. I single-miked with my Ear Trumpet Louise mike but plugged my Gibson lg in to run at low volume with chorus. I set it to where it sounded good to my ears coming out of the S1 and then lined it out to the house system. The sound guy set everything neutral, reluctantly, but smiled when I...Read More...
Very nice report. Thanks for sharing.Read More...
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