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A1/extra B1 alternative view

andrewdouglas ·
Darn you guys, you've done it again. Great concept. But...wait a minute...what would I actually gain if I went with it? Here's my existing bass rig: SWR Grand Prix preamp --> Presonus Blue Max Compressor--> Stewart World 1.2 --> Flite Sound 1x15...plus.... Line out from the preamp into an L1/B1 PAS, which is shared with half a drum machine and two vocal mics. The sound is stunning, especially with my new Bongo5. I also have a Bass Pod XT, but I use it only for effects, not modeling.
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A1 Packlite and 2 B1's ?

macheted01 ·
I just recently purchased a used Packlite on eBay. Last night in order to test it, I ran my 2 B1's with my Packlite out of my L1 Model 2, verses hooking up the 2 B1's in the traditional manner. I could hear that the B1's were working, but seriously lacking. No balls, no punch. I hooked up the B1's, the traditional way and everything came back to life. Is there something wrong with this Packlite, or is there something I need to change in the setting on my T1?
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A1 Packlite & 4-B1s on Drums - Updated w/ T1 Kick Gate News

DrumrPete ·
The New Bose A1 Packlite Power Amplifier & 2-B1 Combo Pak for drummers, bassists, etc. After having this little beauty in my possession for three weeks, there was simply no way I could ever let it go back to Bose. Along with the 2 extra B1s, it became my solution for powerful kick drum and toms. This “combo” was the only real solution I had in that the size and weight was something I was limited to. I haven't the room, the back, nor the desire to haul a big powered sub, especially for no...
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A1 Packlite/B1 Bass combo & Bass POD

DrumrPete ·
While beta testing the A1 Packlite Power Amplifier with my drums, I came across a couple of things I want to quickly say about bass guitar with the augmented bass reinforcement system. I found that upright bass benefited greatly from the A1 & 4 -B1s. Very smooth sound with an AKG D112, no EQ. Great for jazz. Electric bass was not so simple. In my first test, a country trio, we ran a Yamaha 4 string into channel 3 of my PAS w/the A1 and subs attached. The sound was almost too much, even...
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Acoustic Duo with Model I and 2 B1s - Flacobob

ST ·
relatively simple set up ... Following are some details: Utilize a Mackie DFX12 with my older Model 1 w/ Dual Bass Modules Connect mixer & L1 amp with good quality XLR cables Set L1 pre-sets to 00 .... use the mixer effects (which are decent) Center the mixer gain controls and tweek from there Connect the Shure SM58s thru TC Helicon Voice Tone C1 then to mixer ... all XLR My Taylor Guitar (typically Cocobolo Fall Edition w/ Expression System) is run through my "pedalboard" devices via 1/4" in
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Acoustic EQ Issues - Bose L1 Model 2 w/B1 + Bose T1

stratmansblues ·
I have a Bose L1 Model 2 w/B1 and the T1 mixer. I have been gigging this system for a little over a month now and I am having a hard time dialing in my acoustic sound. The guitar is a Martin GPCPA4. I have heard the guitar through acoustic amps and other PA systems and it sounds good to me. I am having a hard time dialing a good sound through the Bose. I have played with various presets, cut and boosted the zeq, and took a forum members advice about a 6db cut on the parametric eq at 440hz.
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3 questions about L1® Model 1S system with B1 bass.

rosaroo ·
Hi, does one L1® Model 1S system with B1 bass and ToneMatch® audio engine produce a stereo sound or do I need to buy two? Also, how long is the Tone Match cable? I may need to run the cable from the tone match mounted on a mic stand at the piano across to another wall to the L1 as I don't have room to put the speakers behind me. Will I hear my vocals and backing tracks sufficiently well from that distance against an acoustic piano? Lastly, do I need to purchase the power cable (optional)...
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4 B1's

NAW-T-BOY ·
Can you run 4 B1's from a model 1 or do you need the packlite to run the other 2?
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4 B1 Subwoofers and a Packlite

erniejade ·
I am selling 4 B1 Subwoofers and 1 packlite. all about 3 months old. Still under warranty. All have been giged about 6-8 times never abused. B1's $200 Each. $300 for the packlite. All come with covers and speakon cables. If you purchas 2 or more B1's I will throw in a 15 or 20 foot Speakon cable made from audiopyle for the Bose B1's Im located in Bolingbrook IL 60440 for shipping. Thanks
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4 L1 Model 2's and 8 B1's

NAW-T-BOY ·
I think I am finally done purchasing BOSE equipment Throughout the past 2 years I have had 2 L1 Model 1's....6 compacts and have finally decided to go with 4 Model 2's and 8 B1's....with 4 T1's and to A1's for those event I need more bas but don't need to bring the extra model 2's. I know some say they can handle parties with just 1 L1 but I'm not sure if its just the location I am in in Chicago but our weddings seem to be a bit bigger than what I've seen most post on the forum. Typically...
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4 piece blues band into three L1's & three B1's

midmoto ·
Hello all I have been using the Bose systems for Worship music for two years now and all I have to say is amazing. I have hooked these babies up in movies houses, warehouses and outdoors. Used Mixers, subs, reverb etc.. Used em as PA's and as there are ment to be. Very impressive stuff. My question for the board is this.. The blues band I am in will be playing a gig at the end of the month and I was wondering about the use of the three B1's I have. We are Guitar player/ vocals. Lead female.
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4 x B1 question

slaine01 ·
Trying to get rid of my Bass amp (Nemesis 2x12) from the mix but still having issues with hearing Bass on stage without it. Trio using Ipod, Bass, Drums and 2 Vox. Currently running 2 x L1's with 2 x B1's configured with Bass and Bass vox into one. L1 ."Top end" of drums (Low end going into Mackie sub by itself from pan out of mixer), main vox and drummers back up vox as well as Ipod going from desk and into 2nd L1. I am driving one B1 from each L1 and also linking both L1's together so that...
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5 B1s...how to stack?

andrewdouglas ·
Forgive me if this has been covered...I didn't quite find what I'm looking for. I now have two PAS systems, one with one B1, and the other with the full extended Packlite package (4 B1s). I can stack the four B1s and put the "odd" one on its own, or I can bend the rules a little bit and make a single stack of 5, or I can do a stack of 3 and a stack of 2. I'm intending to put the two towers about six feet apart, and put all of the B1s between them. One of the performers will be standing...
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6 compacts with 6 ESW-8's instead of 2 L1's and 4 B1's

NAW-T-BOY ·
Call me crazy....but after using my 4 compacts with 4 ESW-8's I am contemplating selling my L1's and 4 B1's and just getting 2 more compacts and 2 more ESW-8's My thought is to have 2 compacts with ews-8's by my table....2 in the middle of the room...and 2 down at the other end. (All connected wirelessly) (and this is for bigger parties over 300 people)...smaller i think I can get away with 4....2 by me and 2 on the other end. I know I'm gonna hear from everyone saying....2 L1's are enough...
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6 L1's and 13 B1's !!!!

in2bluzz ·
I just joined a band that has 4 L1's. The bassist uses a L1 w/2 B1's AND 6 B1's with 3 packlites!! Don't know if that is overkill but WOW! I have 2 L1's and 2 B1's. Our first gig is New Year's Eve. I will just be using 1 L1 and 1 B1, along with my Pod XT Live (I play guiter). The bassist will have his rig and his Pod. Keys with have 1 L1 and 2 B1's. Drums with either have 1 or 2 L1's with the kick going to bass's 8 B1's. Vocals with have their own L1's. I am sooooo looking forward to this...
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7 people - 3 L1s 6 B1s, a T1 and an A1

onemanband ·
It seems that there are very few 2 bands with the same configuration of musicians and speakers. I am now the prod owner of 3 L1 m2, along with 6 B1, a T1 and a Packlite (A1). This is the best way I can think if to set up the band to take advantage of the Bose equipment that I own. http://toonz.ca/sketcher/showBand.aspx?SketchID=5026 Do I have the Bose concept right? Or is there a way to improve this setup? Thanks!
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8 B1's or 4 B1's with external powered sub for HEAVY bass

rennie97 ·
All, I currently own one L1 M2 with a T1 and 2 B1's. I will be buying a second L1 M2 with 2 B1's very soon. I play a lot of electronic music / hip hop that requires deep bass. Would I be better off getting two packlites with 4 more B1's for a total of 8 OR going with a high end external sub and pairing that with the 4 B1's? Thanks in advance for any help!
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15' B1 cord?

jadoo ·
Hi again. Is there a ready-made 15'cord I could use with my B1? I have a small SKB rack that I keep next to my keyboard, and I have to carry a small stand to sit it on. If the B1 had a longer cord, I could put a small pad on it (for protection and vibration control) and rest the SKB on top. It would tighten my set-up and reduce my on-stage footprint a bit. Is this doable? Thanks.
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1L1 2 b1 +sub active

chemadj ·
hello boys I continue testing. Today 1l1 to 2 b1 sub 500 wtass.digital assets. Wedding of 160 people. sub I use it to elevate the L1 50 cm. and to more extra of Low. the exit of under l1 is incredible with the cut of 40 to 180hz towards my sub activate. I continue thinking about the lost one of sound if l1 does not rise, so that people restrain high the average sound. Today I have worked with the control.
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2 B1's > 4x10 Cab? and bass line out question...

cruseelroy ·
I'm in a 4-piece band that plays smaller type bars(50-100 people). For the gigs we play, my SWR SM-400(500 watts/4 Ohms) and 4x10 Goliath II brings plenty of thick bottom end. Just for haha's we used one L1 and one B1 last night for our first gig with the PAS, it was really amazing. We had vocals, keys, bass, and just a bit of guitar(using a mic on the guitar amp) all going through one PAS with no problem. Volume and mix was great. I could hear myself perfect(I do lead vocals too). The only...
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2 B1's to each L1 = correct set up?

brianharris ·
I thought I read or was told that for every L1 you want to run 2 B1's to get the right mix of low end. One of the local DJs in Cincy runs 1 L1 and 1 B1. Is he doing any long term damage especially if he's trying to pull out the amount of low end that 2 push, from just one?
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2 B1s from one system base or 1 per sys?

macmike100 ·
Just out of curiosity. I have 2 complete L1/Model II systems. Running in mono...Has anyone noticed any difference between running 2 B1's from one system base along with another system base with no B1? This versus having 2 systems with each having a B1 a peace. I'm wondering about this because of cable issues. I have one extra 15' B1 cable now. And was thinking that I would not need a second 15 footer. I guess I'm being cheap here but it is another $38bucks w/shpg. Has anyone noticed any ...
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2 B1s on slave PS1

billhammond ·
I just ordered two additional B1s so I can have two single B1 systems and one double B1 system, but I'm interested in trying the slave configuration for my bass. I was wondering if it would make a difference if I connected one B1 each to the Amp1 and Amp2 outputs on the slave module vs. just daisy-chaining the B1s. Would I get better volume this way?
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2 B2's, the equivalent 8 b1's. Really?

tablatom ·
Hi. I have 2 B2's and i am just about to do my first Roland TD20 gig with them next to me on stage stacked together. I sold my B1's before i got my B2's, so i never got to A-B test them to see if 1 b2 really is like the sound of 4 B1's. In theory then, i now have the equivalent of 8 B1's. And with the coupling effect of having them stacked i will guess one could say the equivalent of 9 B1's?? So this would mean the equivalent of around 1000watts RMS? 8 x 125rms. I'd like to believe that. I...
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2 B2s versus 2 B1s and the KSUB

kevin16 ·
Thanks for any feedback in advance! Just got the 2 B2s today. Taking a full 30 days to see if this works for me. I did the firmware and yes without a doubt, they (the B2) do impress! I have two L1 model 2 and was using 2 B1s on one side and KSUB on the other - I actually have 4 B1s but could never make it work, 2 B1s were fine but for bigger gigs the KSUB was needed - it didn't make sense to bring out 4 B1s. The KSUB worked well, but when I heard about B2, I got very excited and ordered 2...
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(2) Bose 802 & (1) Bose 502BP vs. (2) L1's & (4) B1's

weddingdj ·
Can someone from Bose tell me which would be better? 2 Bose 802's & 1 Bose 502BP or 2 PAS L1's and 4 B1's? I do weddings but ocassionaly do large venues (750-1000 people) Which would have better bass? Thanks weddingdj
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2 Classics and 4 B1's.

jeremyg ·
What would one pay for a great set up used Classics and B1's? 2 classics 4 B1's
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2 Compacts & 1 L1 series I with 2 B1- Need advice for setup

dr ·
I recently sold off my other L1 and added two compacts.. I would like to use all my firepower for weddings and othe events. I use a Numark NS6 mixer so what would be the best way to set up my system. What cables would work best and can I hook everything back to the mixer using RCA and XLR inputs or should I daisy chain the compacts and use only the XLR inputs on the mixer? Thanks for your help
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2 Compacts with 2 B1's?

mattrudd ·
I recently acquired the Compacts and want to give them a shot at an event, but do have some hesitations. I currently have 2 L1 Classics with 4 B1s that I love. The event is tomorrow and is a wedding reception for 150 and I'm currently torn if I should run my standard 2 L1s and 4 B1s or if I should go with the much quicker setup of 2 Compacts. My other thought is to setup the 2 Compacts and use the base of the L1 Classic to run 2 B1s (giving me a little extra bass), as I am pretty sure it has...
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2 L1's 4 B1's Can someone please help!

savanshah ·
Hi everyone. I apologize for my novice questions I have for the systems. I've been djing for a while and I wanted to get a lighter system. I bought 2 l1 model 1's and 4b1's and I was wondering how I can set them up to my mixer. I've never had a powered system and I've always worked with JBLs. I had the JBL Srx738s with a qsc plx3602 amp running in my setup and they worked very well. I was wondering if these will match to par with my previous system. I do not know how to hook both of these...
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2 L1's 4 B1's question

mastermixdj ·
Friends I am just now getting my 2nd L1. I now have 2 L1's and 4 B1's. When hooking them up in series (right output to 1st L1 left output 2nd L1) do the B1's get hooked up 2 on 1st L1 and 2 on 2nd L1 or should I hook all 4 B1's up together? Thanks in advance. Scott
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2 L1's and 6 b1's enough for a 20,000 SF room?

erniejade ·
2 L1's and 6 b1's enough for a 20,000 SF room? Do you think I would need to bring 8 b1's? I have a copr gig comming up in about 1 month and the room is just shy of 20,000 SF It is in the grand ballroom Will I be under powered? man I wish there was a Bose Rental place around me here.
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2 L1s and 4 B1's... how big an event would you try to cover with them?

papadeuce ·
Sure, I know that many factors would influence your answer, but I have a lead on a political function where there will be 500 - 700 folks. I'll be up on a standard riser if I get the event. So, can you tell me about your larger events if you have the same setup? Thanks.
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2 or 4 B1 Subs stacked together

djrandee ·
I don't know if there is a forum on this, but my questions is I tried both ways 2 stacked on each side of L1's or 4 stacked in a middle of dance floor it produces more head room at least more punch when it stacked on 4, who has that photo with 2 l1 and eight b1, correct me if i'm wrong please
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2-Wire or 4-Wire speakon lead between two B1s

jools ·
Hi There, I have a PAS with two bass modules on approval for 1 week from Sound Control in the UK. They have lent me one 4-wire speakon lead and one 2-wire speakon lead. Will the system be balanced if I connect the first bass module to the power stand with the 4-wire lead and connect the two bass modules together with the 2-wire lead, or do I need to get another 4-wire lead? P.S. I'll be using the PAS for a Roland V-Drum kit & vocals. Many Thanks, Jools.
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2 x Bose L1, 4 x B1, 2 x 18" powered subs :D

Nick from New Zealand ·
I guess I hooked this up wrong. I had powered DAS 18" compact subs with internal crossover. I ran an XLR from the Powerstand line out to the DAS boxes. Overall they worked but just didn't have the kick i was expecting from "real" subs. 500 teenagers though in a not so big school hall - it was loud enough but in my honest unbiased opinion, the 4 B1s would not have been enough on their own. Close though, but not quite. No complaints - the Bose sounded great.
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2nd B1 EQ question

jerryt ·
Hello All, I've been using the L1 with one B1 for almost three years and I just purchased an additional B1 to use with larger venues. My question: With the addition of the second B1, will I have to dramaticly change the the EQ I've been using with the single bass unit? Thanks. Ciao, Jerry
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2nd B1 on the way

macheted01 ·
Well, I finally was able to order up a 2nd B1 for my L1 Model II. It is desperately needed. I hope it makes a huge difference in the low end frequency range. Always excited when it comes to the L1. Due in on Tuesday. Be back with ya's soon.
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2nd B1 or a Roland keyboard amp?

bobotime ·
stoked with my new model 2 with tone match, I was wondering tho if I should add a 2nd B1 or get a roland for the other side of the stage, the roland is a thought cause I play half the show on a keyboard a yamaha CP33 any thoughts
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3(L1M2+B1x2+T1) + 2(Compact) + T1 + A1

onemanband ·
Here is my preliminary sketch. http://toonz.ca/sketcher/showBand.aspx?SketchID=6099 In summary, I have a wedding coming up with a 7 musicians: 1: drummer, 2: keyboard (split chords and LH bass), 3: elec. and acc. guitars 4: soprano/alto/tenor sax, flute, clarinet 5: trombone, trumpet, violin (probably electric so no feedback)) 6: Backup vocals 7: Guest Lead Vocalist And my equipment consists of the following: 3 sets of L1M2 with 2 B1 and a T1 each. 2 Compacts A fourth T1 one A1 One energy...
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3(L1M2+B1x2+T1) + 2(Compact) + T1 + A1 -OneManBand

ST ·
Hi OneManBand, Thanks for using The Sketcher. Here is your Sketch. -- click image to make changes to the live version -- Legend: L1® Model II T1 ToneMatch® audio engine L1® Compact Orange numbers are Systems and Inputs using those Systems. Blue filled numbers are Channel connections to/from the T1 ToneMatch® audio engine. Green numbers are for general notes about the Sketch and connections to non-Bose gear. There were no notes with this Sketch.
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3 New PAS/B1X2 Systems For Rent In Northern CA!

pureenergyproductions ·
Fellow PAS Lovers, We are a Bay Area sound company with 3 new PAS/B1X2 systems for rent. We can also deliver and supply a sound tech at your gig for you. We have a full line of live sound equipment, mics, stands, effects, mixers, lighting, video screens, staging...did I miss anything? Very professional staff with experience and references. Thanks, Phil
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1 B1 or 2 B1's

nycman ·
My girlfriend has 4 piece band that plays for 50-200 person crowds. The other night she did a gig and we used the L1 M1 with 1 B1 that I bought her. We ran it though a 12 channel Yamaha mixer with the non-powered out. We use one power out for one monitor for the band. Through the L1 we put three vocals and the drums. The guitar and base played through their amps. It sounded awesome. Would adding another B1 make a big difference? I was worried about adding the guitar and bass to the L1. Would...
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1 B1 or 2 B2s

amos ·
I'm recent owner of an L1 M2 with B2, and I'm quite impressed. But i'd like to know what is the difference between the B1 and the B2. And would it be the same to have one B2 than to have to two B1s?
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1 B2 + 2 B1 or 2 B2 ?

alcools ·
Hi I have a L1 v2.I use it for a mix of Bass guitare+Kick+electronic drums+Guitar. What is the best choice for a good frequency response : 1 B2 + 2 B1 or 2 B2 ? (I already have a Packlite)
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1 BOSE B2 OU 2 BOSE B1

guppy33 ·
est ce qu'une bose B2 est aussi éfficace que deux bB1
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1 L1 2 b1 will it be enough?

johnnypockets ·
High School gym bleachers on both sides. 16 channel mixer, Running the whole band through it.Will the L1 be enough.
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1 L1 and 4 B1's

classicaxee ·
is anyone using this set-up? Classicaxee
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1 L1 MODEL1 2 B1'S WEDDING NZ

djwoody ·
First of all I am very pleased I sold my JBL JRX125 Speakers/amp etc for this L1 MODEL 1 SYSTEM with 2 B1'S.. I have only done 2 gigs with it and it is really worth the money. The first gig was at a night club and I was djing the whole night with the system and the club owner was so amazed they ordering one now... The Wedding I just done was amazing. I had compliments all day/night from patrons including dj's that couldn't believe the clarity of the system ... I can say im proud of the Bose...
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1 or 2 B1's

Don 2 ·
Hi there,,I've been away for awhile...I want to here from users who started using the system with one B1 and then added another. This is for a solo situation using a mike with a TC Helicon , and a Rainsong WS-1000...Doing J.T.,Croce., Gordin Lightfoot, and when the need arrises,,Doc Watson / Tony Rice style flatpicking.. I was thinking of adding another B1 for more depth/bottom end. Just wanted a little input from people who added an extra B1 to see if it made a big difference. Thanks,,,Don
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