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FAN problem - Bose L1 Model2

I've been using an L1 Model2 for many years and I've never heard the fan noise. Now I've bought a new L1 Model2 and just light it up I always hear the fan noise, that's normal? Turn on and the fan rotates for a maximum of one second and then drops to an average speed. But being always lit even when there is no music, the fan is audible. I called my nation's customer service and they say the fan should not always be on, and I have to send the product into service and stay without it for 15...Read More...
Hi Magic Audio, Thank you for joining the Community. It's completely normal for your new L1 Model II fan to run all the time. There was a change in the way the fan works. That change was introduced in 2015. Your earlier unit is also fine. There's no user installable update for that. Does that help? STRead More...
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Not getting a Stereo Signal with RCA inputs on L1 Compact

I am KJing with a Laptop running to a behringer mixers' RCA in and out to the L1 Compacts RCA in. I noticed a while back that I was turning up the main on the Bose a whole lot more to fill the room, but now recently I've noticed in cases of songs (mostly older one's where it would stand out) that I'm not getting stereo from a stereo RCA feed. Of course, I've verified it's not the cable. The sources are stereo ... Any Suggestions?Read More...
Hi KJ Jimmy Arnold, Thanks for the added information. This rules out my idea about the mono/stereo issue. Let's check a couple more things. When you remove one side of the stereo pair and you get silence.... when you replace that and remove the other side, what happens? Do you get the same result when you connect the laptop directly to the L1 Compact? If you use headphones connected to the laptop do you hear both sides of the stereo sound? If you use headphones connected to the mixer do you...Read More...
Last Reply By ST · First Unread Post

F1 Graphic EQ Settings

Hello - Been using the Bose F1 812 & F1 Sub going on one year now. We use L1B2T1 for duo gigs with backing tracks up to 150 people. More than that we use the F1 812 - 1 per side, sometimes without subs, or one sub or two, depending on size of venue and guests. Some gigs it sounds great...other gigs could have sounded much better. We did an A/B comparison in a room with 600 guests for dancing with a Yorkville Paraline System, and honestly, we thought the Paraline outperformed the F1. We...Read More...
Thanks ST....nice look for the new forum... The F1 and the Paraline are voiced considerably differently. My observations are as I turn up the volume, the signal clipping is not the issue - it is the feedback - we need to notch quite a few frequencies on the GEQ. Then it appears we lose volume. We've had so many great experiences with the L1 - I bought the original L1 [now Classic] over 8 years ago - and now to the L1M2 - a total of over 900 gigs on L1 systems. From the get-go they were...Read More...
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Last Reply By Roger Cortina · First Unread Post

L1 Model 2 With B2 - Adding F1 top and sub

Hi I have been trawling through trying to find my exact scenario, but I can't. So here it is. I have L1 model 2 with B2, I love it and have used the system with B1 and B2's for 6 years. I perform acoustic music and vocals, BUT for weddings I also perform with electric guitar and backing tracks. I have had a few gigs recently where the volume of the L1 just didn't cut it. I had 100 people dancing on the dancefloor, the L1 loud but starting to distort a little. I think the Bass from outside...Read More...
Hi Doddsy, I was just checking out your website . That was a great way to get to know you better and to get some more insight into your music. Also once the volume gets up there my ears ring the next day , it would be nice to be able to boost the front of house( hopefully f1) and keep the L1 behind me doing a reasonable volume for my monitoring and generally doing its excellent dispersion. It's time to get you out of harm's way. An F1 Model 812 could really help with the "dance floor fill".Read More...
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Last Reply By ST · First Unread Post

New L1®Model II with B2

Hello I am new to the forum and thought I would provide a list of devices I intend to use on my new Bose L1 II B2 System when it arrives next week. I will be playing an Godin Acousticaster and Sennheiser 945. Thanks and looking forward to the new gear.Read More...
Hi johnsow, Great! We have a series of T1® Videos. Enjoy! STRead More...
Last Reply By ST · First Unread Post
As a live sound engineer who is new to the Bose approach I've been watching videos of bands using the L1 systems live to get some idea of different set up possibilities. On the Bose YouTube channel there is a video of Foreigner doing a gig in 2014 with four L1 systems. There is a good overall shot of the stage at this point in the video: https://youtu.be/sibKEEBlfWs?t=1m28s I noticed a couple of things I'd like to ask about: 1. The band has two L1s behind them and two L1s in front, the...Read More...
ST posted: Hi Bruno, "... you can't change the laws of physics." I think you'll find this interesting. The L1® Approach and the History of Amplification ST Thanks ST, I've watched that video several times and am very keen to see how these ideas work out in practice - I've got a couple of tests lined up for the L1 compact this weekend. Will report back! BrunoRead More...
Last Reply By GLB Productions · First Unread Post

Line out to F1 Sub first or F1 812 first

I was wondering what difference if any between connecting line out from the mixer to the F1 sub then to the F1 812 or vice versa?Read More...
Hi AJ, The manual doesn't cover all possible use cases. Please come back and tell us how all of this works out for you. Thanks, STRead More...
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What features would you like in a next generation L1®

ST
If you could have anything you want in an L1® ... Ask, even if you don't think it's possible. It wasn't that long ago that the L1® was impossible. Have fun with this. STRead More...
1) A stereo T1 with at least 8 channels and 8 independent outputs controlled by 1 master fadar/knob to have the ability to conect up to 6 L1 Model ll 4 minimum and control the entire mix and DSP's. 2) international voltage for the big models, we always want to perform overseas with them but it is not practical to take voltage converters, and it is practically imposible to find L1's for hire where we had to perform. 3) more power?? 4) To have the ability to connect a small bose speakers as...Read More...
Last Reply By Romgmz · First Unread Post

F1 front of house with L1 stage monitor

We will continue to use our L1 system with two B1 bass units behind us as a monitor system. For some very small venues this will be loud enough for the audience as well. However, for larger Club and Theatre gigs we will have two F1s out front. Is there likely to be any phasing problem because of the different distances of the F1s and L1 from the audience? We will keep the volume of the L1 down to reduce the over spill to the audience.Read More...
Thanks ST it's working now. Guess it was just one of those temporary glitches BrunoRead More...
Last Reply By GLB Productions · First Unread Post

Recommendation on Mixer that works with L1 model II with B2 Base

Hello, I am in need of more inputs so thinking of purchasing a new mixer that works with L1 model II with B2 base. Any suggestions on the mixer? I was checking out "QSC TouchMix-16 Touchscreen Digital Mixer". Also thinking of purchasing two Mackie SRM 450 V3 to work with the L1 Model II. Looking for some guidance/recommendations. Thank youRead More...
Just got the Soundcraft Ui wireless mixer. So far, I'm loving it. I've heard good things about the Behringer XR18 as well, never had a chance to try one though. But so far, having Lexicon reverb, Digitech amp modeling (I wasn't expecting it, but it had the Peavey 5150 amp built in... goes well with my Ernie Ball EVH since I'm a huge VH fan), and dbx AFS is amazing.Read More...
Last Reply By JohnL · First Unread Post

Daisy chaining F1s

Hi I have two F1 systems that I want to run from the left output of my mixer. How do I wire them up? It does not cover this with the various setups described in the manual. My guess is to go into one sub, out into one 812 and then out the 812 into the other sub and out to other 812. Is that correct?Read More...
Hi again John, John Sparks posted: I need the same mix and effects as are going out front. We have nothing louder than acoustic guitars, so I get to control the levels by using the front of house mix through full range monitoring via the L1. I understand. Sometimes vocalists want more reverb in the monitors that I want in the house. That's typically the driver to have a separate monitor mix. STRead More...
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Good day everyone! I've been a sound engineer for some 15 years now but am only just beginning to discover the Bose Tonematch concept for professional use. I must confess that at first the idea of letting somebody else 'do my EQ' for me struck me as being rather... unsound ;) However after doing my research and reading lots of customer testimonials I can see that user feedback is excellent and the system really appears to work, especially for festival-type situations or at any event where...Read More...
ST posted: Is there any way to see the EQ curve for the various presents without actually having a T1 mixer? In addition, is Tonematch just EQ, or does it also contain some element of dynamics control? Thanks. The ToneMatch Presets are EQ (only). The settings for the EQ are not published so you can't see the EQ curves with or without a T1®. But you can certainly hear them with the T1®. Here is an article that describes all of that in more detail. ToneMatch ® There's also a change for the...Read More...
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FAN problem - Bose L1 Model2

I've been using an L1 Model2 for many years and I've never heard the fan noise. Now I've bought a new L1 Model2 and just light it up I always hear the fan noise, that's normal? Turn on and the fan rotates for a maximum of one second and then drops to an average speed. But being always lit even when there is no music, the fan is audible. I called my nation's customer service and they say the fan should not always be on, and I have to send the product into service and stay without it for 15...Read More...
Hi Magic Audio, Thank you for joining the Community. It's completely normal for your new L1 Model II fan to run all the time. There was a change in the way the fan works. That change was introduced in 2015. Your earlier unit is also fine. There's no user installable update for that. Does that help? STRead More...
Last Reply By ST · First Unread Post

Not getting a Stereo Signal with RCA inputs on L1 Compact

I am KJing with a Laptop running to a behringer mixers' RCA in and out to the L1 Compacts RCA in. I noticed a while back that I was turning up the main on the Bose a whole lot more to fill the room, but now recently I've noticed in cases of songs (mostly older one's where it would stand out) that I'm not getting stereo from a stereo RCA feed. Of course, I've verified it's not the cable. The sources are stereo ... Any Suggestions?Read More...
Hi KJ Jimmy Arnold, Thanks for the added information. This rules out my idea about the mono/stereo issue. Let's check a couple more things. When you remove one side of the stereo pair and you get silence.... when you replace that and remove the other side, what happens? Do you get the same result when you connect the laptop directly to the L1 Compact? If you use headphones connected to the laptop do you hear both sides of the stereo sound? If you use headphones connected to the mixer do you...Read More...
Last Reply By ST · First Unread Post

F1 Graphic EQ Settings

Hello - Been using the Bose F1 812 & F1 Sub going on one year now. We use L1B2T1 for duo gigs with backing tracks up to 150 people. More than that we use the F1 812 - 1 per side, sometimes without subs, or one sub or two, depending on size of venue and guests. Some gigs it sounds great...other gigs could have sounded much better. We did an A/B comparison in a room with 600 guests for dancing with a Yorkville Paraline System, and honestly, we thought the Paraline outperformed the F1. We...Read More...
Thanks ST....nice look for the new forum... The F1 and the Paraline are voiced considerably differently. My observations are as I turn up the volume, the signal clipping is not the issue - it is the feedback - we need to notch quite a few frequencies on the GEQ. Then it appears we lose volume. We've had so many great experiences with the L1 - I bought the original L1 [now Classic] over 8 years ago - and now to the L1M2 - a total of over 900 gigs on L1 systems. From the get-go they were...Read More...
Recently Added Photos/Videos
Last Reply By Roger Cortina · First Unread Post

L1 Model 2 With B2 - Adding F1 top and sub

Hi I have been trawling through trying to find my exact scenario, but I can't. So here it is. I have L1 model 2 with B2, I love it and have used the system with B1 and B2's for 6 years. I perform acoustic music and vocals, BUT for weddings I also perform with electric guitar and backing tracks. I have had a few gigs recently where the volume of the L1 just didn't cut it. I had 100 people dancing on the dancefloor, the L1 loud but starting to distort a little. I think the Bass from outside...Read More...
Hi Doddsy, I was just checking out your website . That was a great way to get to know you better and to get some more insight into your music. Also once the volume gets up there my ears ring the next day , it would be nice to be able to boost the front of house( hopefully f1) and keep the L1 behind me doing a reasonable volume for my monitoring and generally doing its excellent dispersion. It's time to get you out of harm's way. An F1 Model 812 could really help with the "dance floor fill".Read More...
Recently Added Photos/Videos
Last Reply By ST · First Unread Post

New L1®Model II with B2

Hello I am new to the forum and thought I would provide a list of devices I intend to use on my new Bose L1 II B2 System when it arrives next week. I will be playing an Godin Acousticaster and Sennheiser 945. Thanks and looking forward to the new gear.Read More...
Hi johnsow, Great! We have a series of T1® Videos. Enjoy! STRead More...
Last Reply By ST · First Unread Post
As a live sound engineer who is new to the Bose approach I've been watching videos of bands using the L1 systems live to get some idea of different set up possibilities. On the Bose YouTube channel there is a video of Foreigner doing a gig in 2014 with four L1 systems. There is a good overall shot of the stage at this point in the video: https://youtu.be/sibKEEBlfWs?t=1m28s I noticed a couple of things I'd like to ask about: 1. The band has two L1s behind them and two L1s in front, the...Read More...
ST posted: Hi Bruno, "... you can't change the laws of physics." I think you'll find this interesting. The L1® Approach and the History of Amplification ST Thanks ST, I've watched that video several times and am very keen to see how these ideas work out in practice - I've got a couple of tests lined up for the L1 compact this weekend. Will report back! BrunoRead More...
Last Reply By GLB Productions · First Unread Post

Line out to F1 Sub first or F1 812 first

I was wondering what difference if any between connecting line out from the mixer to the F1 sub then to the F1 812 or vice versa?Read More...
Hi AJ, The manual doesn't cover all possible use cases. Please come back and tell us how all of this works out for you. Thanks, STRead More...
Recently Added Photos/Videos
Last Reply By ST · First Unread Post

What features would you like in a next generation L1®

ST
If you could have anything you want in an L1® ... Ask, even if you don't think it's possible. It wasn't that long ago that the L1® was impossible. Have fun with this. STRead More...
1) A stereo T1 with at least 8 channels and 8 independent outputs controlled by 1 master fadar/knob to have the ability to conect up to 6 L1 Model ll 4 minimum and control the entire mix and DSP's. 2) international voltage for the big models, we always want to perform overseas with them but it is not practical to take voltage converters, and it is practically imposible to find L1's for hire where we had to perform. 3) more power?? 4) To have the ability to connect a small bose speakers as...Read More...
Last Reply By Romgmz · First Unread Post

F1 front of house with L1 stage monitor

We will continue to use our L1 system with two B1 bass units behind us as a monitor system. For some very small venues this will be loud enough for the audience as well. However, for larger Club and Theatre gigs we will have two F1s out front. Is there likely to be any phasing problem because of the different distances of the F1s and L1 from the audience? We will keep the volume of the L1 down to reduce the over spill to the audience.Read More...
Thanks ST it's working now. Guess it was just one of those temporary glitches BrunoRead More...
Last Reply By GLB Productions · First Unread Post
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